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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:07 AM ET #226

    Beaver- yea I couldnt get lines till 2 or 3 am this morning and they would go off!!!
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    Beaver- yea I couldnt get lines till 2 or 3 am this morning and they would go off!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:14 AM ET #227

    Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:

    This website being a bitch is really making this difficult
    No worries bro .. My list is pretty decent but I missed a few myself .. Yale is a 65% is Brown still a play ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:

    This website being a bitch is really making this difficult
    No worries bro .. My list is pretty decent but I missed a few myself .. Yale is a 65% is Brown still a play ????
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:20 AM ET #228

    Ok, I double-checked a couple posts here and below are my comments:

    Beaver23

    • No Play SMU open -13 on betonline KP -17, delta 4 must be 5+ at KP 17+
    • No Play Texas open +2.5 on betonline KP +5, delta 2.5 must be 3+ for KP 4.5 to 8
    • No Play Colorado open -1 on betonline KP +2, delta 2 must be 2.5+ for KP 0 to 4

    Upside

    • Add Duke, open -12 on betonline KP -7, delta 5 and meets 3+ criteria
    • No Play SMU, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)
    • No Play Texas, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)

    Bobcat

    • Add Marshall, open 2.5 on betonline KP 5, delta 2.5
    • Add Tulsa, open -2 on BO KP 3, delta 5
    • Add LA Monroe, open 7.5 on BO KP 12, delta 4.5
    • Add PITT, open -2 on BO KP 1, delta 3
    • Add Cal St Fullerton, open -2.5 on BO KP 1, delta 3.5
    • Add N. AZ, open 3 on BO KP 6, delta 3
    • Add Montana St., open -2.5 on BO KP 3, delta 5.5
    • No Play Boise St., open -2.5 on BO KP -2, delta 0.5

    If you dispute these movements please POST THE DATA THAT SO THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS.

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    Ok, I double-checked a couple posts here and below are my comments:

    Beaver23

    • No Play SMU open -13 on betonline KP -17, delta 4 must be 5+ at KP 17+
    • No Play Texas open +2.5 on betonline KP +5, delta 2.5 must be 3+ for KP 4.5 to 8
    • No Play Colorado open -1 on betonline KP +2, delta 2 must be 2.5+ for KP 0 to 4

    Upside

    • Add Duke, open -12 on betonline KP -7, delta 5 and meets 3+ criteria
    • No Play SMU, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)
    • No Play Texas, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)

    Bobcat

    • Add Marshall, open 2.5 on betonline KP 5, delta 2.5
    • Add Tulsa, open -2 on BO KP 3, delta 5
    • Add LA Monroe, open 7.5 on BO KP 12, delta 4.5
    • Add PITT, open -2 on BO KP 1, delta 3
    • Add Cal St Fullerton, open -2.5 on BO KP 1, delta 3.5
    • Add N. AZ, open 3 on BO KP 6, delta 3
    • Add Montana St., open -2.5 on BO KP 3, delta 5.5
    • No Play Boise St., open -2.5 on BO KP -2, delta 0.5

    If you dispute these movements please POST THE DATA THAT SO THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:24 AM ET #229

    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    No worries bro .. My list is pretty decent but I missed a few myself .. Yale is a 65% is Brown still a play ????

    Yes, it is only when the team you are taking is over 65%.  Please just make sure to use the covers contest %s, I posted the link earlier.  Yale is over 65% there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    No worries bro .. My list is pretty decent but I missed a few myself .. Yale is a 65% is Brown still a play ????

    Yes, it is only when the team you are taking is over 65%.  Please just make sure to use the covers contest %s, I posted the link earlier.  Yale is over 65% there too.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:26 AM ET #230

    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Ok, I double-checked a couple posts here and below are my comments:

    Beaver23

    • No Play Colorado open -1 on betonline KP +2, delta 2 must be 2.5+ for KP 0 to 4

    Sorry, typo.  Colorado is KP +1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Ok, I double-checked a couple posts here and below are my comments:

    Beaver23

    • No Play Colorado open -1 on betonline KP +2, delta 2 must be 2.5+ for KP 0 to 4

    Sorry, typo.  Colorado is KP +1.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:27 AM ET #231

    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Ok, I double-checked a couple posts here and below are my comments:

    Beaver23

    • No Play SMU open -13 on betonline KP -17, delta 4 must be 5+ at KP 17+
    • No Play Texas open +2.5 on betonline KP +5, delta 2.5 must be 3+ for KP 4.5 to 8
    • No Play Colorado open -1 on betonline KP +2, delta 2 must be 2.5+ for KP 0 to 4

    Upside

    • Add Duke, open -12 on betonline KP -7, delta 5 and meets 3+ criteria
    • No Play SMU, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)
    • No Play Texas, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)

    Bobcat

    • Add Marshall, open 2.5 on betonline KP 5, delta 2.5
    • Add Tulsa, open -2 on BO KP 3, delta 5
    • Add LA Monroe, open 7.5 on BO KP 12, delta 4.5
    • Add PITT, open -2 on BO KP 1, delta 3
    • Add Cal St Fullerton, open -2.5 on BO KP 1, delta 3.5
    • Add N. AZ, open 3 on BO KP 6, delta 3
    • Add Montana St., open -2.5 on BO KP 3, delta 5.5
    • No Play Boise St., open -2.5 on BO KP -2, delta 0.5

    If you dispute these movements please POST THE DATA THAT SO THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS.

    How does the 65% consensus work ?? Is it our pick or kp pick ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Ok, I double-checked a couple posts here and below are my comments:

    Beaver23

    • No Play SMU open -13 on betonline KP -17, delta 4 must be 5+ at KP 17+
    • No Play Texas open +2.5 on betonline KP +5, delta 2.5 must be 3+ for KP 4.5 to 8
    • No Play Colorado open -1 on betonline KP +2, delta 2 must be 2.5+ for KP 0 to 4

    Upside

    • Add Duke, open -12 on betonline KP -7, delta 5 and meets 3+ criteria
    • No Play SMU, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)
    • No Play Texas, see above (or give me data that says otherwise)

    Bobcat

    • Add Marshall, open 2.5 on betonline KP 5, delta 2.5
    • Add Tulsa, open -2 on BO KP 3, delta 5
    • Add LA Monroe, open 7.5 on BO KP 12, delta 4.5
    • Add PITT, open -2 on BO KP 1, delta 3
    • Add Cal St Fullerton, open -2.5 on BO KP 1, delta 3.5
    • Add N. AZ, open 3 on BO KP 6, delta 3
    • Add Montana St., open -2.5 on BO KP 3, delta 5.5
    • No Play Boise St., open -2.5 on BO KP -2, delta 0.5

    If you dispute these movements please POST THE DATA THAT SO THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS.

    How does the 65% consensus work ?? Is it our pick or kp pick ??
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:33 AM ET #232

    My internet is super choppy today, I can't help tighten anything up. Just gonna have to go with what we got and run with it.

    BOL today! Keep making that money.
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    My internet is super choppy today, I can't help tighten anything up. Just gonna have to go with what we got and run with it.

    BOL today! Keep making that money.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:33 AM ET #233

    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    How does the 65% consensus work ?? Is it our pick or kp pick ??
    You just answered me thx .. I got Kansas - 2 1/2  opening line from betonline ..Kp Kansas -5 ..so you guys are using the KP not the opening line for the criteria 4 1/2 to 8 there must be a 3 point difference to qualify , right ??? I was using Vegas opening line .. Please let me know if that is correct ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    How does the 65% consensus work ?? Is it our pick or kp pick ??
    You just answered me thx .. I got Kansas - 2 1/2  opening line from betonline ..Kp Kansas -5 ..so you guys are using the KP not the opening line for the criteria 4 1/2 to 8 there must be a 3 point difference to qualify , right ??? I was using Vegas opening line .. Please let me know if that is correct ..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:37 AM ET #234

    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.
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    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:43 AM ET #235

    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.
    Thanks bro !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.
    Thanks bro !!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:50 AM ET #236

    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.
    I have Purdue a no play now !!!! Line opened +8 betonline .. KP +11 it has to be 3 1/2 point difference to qualify therefore o no play , right !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.
    I have Purdue a no play now !!!! Line opened +8 betonline .. KP +11 it has to be 3 1/2 point difference to qualify therefore o no play , right !!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:52 AM ET #237

    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.

    Its the vegas line opening line from what ive seen.

     

    Maryland, Purdue through the noon games are plays. Looking over now. A real bitch writing down all the lines from vegas insider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    Correct, the KP line is used to determine the threshold levels.  In your example above, the threshold level is 4.5 to 8 since the KP line is -5.

    Its the vegas line opening line from what ive seen.

     

    Maryland, Purdue through the noon games are plays. Looking over now. A real bitch writing down all the lines from vegas insider.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:55 AM ET #238

    Quote Originally Posted by stiffler1705:

    Its the vegas line opening line from what ive seen.

     

    Maryland, Purdue through the noon games are plays. Looking over now. A real bitch writing down all the lines from vegas insider.

    Guys , which is it .. Is it from the vegas opening line or Kp ... Someone confirm !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stiffler1705:

    Its the vegas line opening line from what ive seen.

     

    Maryland, Purdue through the noon games are plays. Looking over now. A real bitch writing down all the lines from vegas insider.

    Guys , which is it .. Is it from the vegas opening line or Kp ... Someone confirm !!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:06 PM ET #239

    First is the Opening Lines From Betonline followed by KP .. The Play will always be Vegas which is the opening line from Betonline ..

    Temple -10 .... KP Temple -14 .. 4pt diff .. Play Mary

    Villanova - 1 1/2 .. KP Villanova -5 ... Play St Johns

    K ST - 2 1/2 ... KP - K ST - 6 .. Play OK ST

    Yale - 3 1/2 ... KP - Yale -8 ... Play Brown

    La Salle - 15 .. KP - 20 .. Play RI ... that will take some guts

    Tex A/M - 3 1/2 ... KP .. OKLA -1 .. Play Tx A/M ..

    George Mason - 24 1/2 ... KP George Mason - 19 .. Play George Mason ...

    Iowa St - 4 1/2 .. KP ... Iowa St - 10 ... Play Texas Tech .. ouch ..

    More a bit Later .. Please Verify/Confirm Anyone !!!

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    First is the Opening Lines From Betonline followed by KP .. The Play will always be Vegas which is the opening line from Betonline ..

    Temple -10 .... KP Temple -14 .. 4pt diff .. Play Mary

    Villanova - 1 1/2 .. KP Villanova -5 ... Play St Johns

    K ST - 2 1/2 ... KP - K ST - 6 .. Play OK ST

    Yale - 3 1/2 ... KP - Yale -8 ... Play Brown

    La Salle - 15 .. KP - 20 .. Play RI ... that will take some guts

    Tex A/M - 3 1/2 ... KP .. OKLA -1 .. Play Tx A/M ..

    George Mason - 24 1/2 ... KP George Mason - 19 .. Play George Mason ...

    Iowa St - 4 1/2 .. KP ... Iowa St - 10 ... Play Texas Tech .. ouch ..

    More a bit Later .. Please Verify/Confirm Anyone !!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:24 PM ET #240

    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    Guys , which is it .. Is it from the vegas opening line or Kp ... Someone confirm !!!!

    Stiffler is correct.  Vegas Opening Line to determine the thresholds / plays.  Too much going on this morning :)

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    Guys , which is it .. Is it from the vegas opening line or Kp ... Someone confirm !!!!

    Stiffler is correct.  Vegas Opening Line to determine the thresholds / plays.  Too much going on this morning :)

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:26 PM ET #241

    i just got in to this thread yesterday and i think you guys got something here...a little bit hectic and confusing this morning....upside r these the final plays as of now???? i hit with the youngstown game last night... thanks...
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    i just got in to this thread yesterday and i think you guys got something here...a little bit hectic and confusing this morning....upside r these the final plays as of now???? i hit with the youngstown game last night... thanks...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:48 PM ET #242

    Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:

    Not sure why covers does not have betonline lines up.  Very aggrivating!

    Im just going to use the vegas insider opening lines for tomorrow...i'm not sure where else to find the betonline openers.

    Official Saturday Plays:

    11AM
    MD +9 (RDA)
    12PM
    Purdue +8.5 (RDT)
    1PM
    StJohns +2 (HDT)
    SMU +14.5 (RDT)
    OKSt +3.5 (HDT)
    2PM
    Brown +4 (HDT)
    3PM
    Indiana St +13.5 (RDT)
    4PM
    URI +15 (RDN)
    Duke -10.5 (HFT)
    Texas +3.5 (HDT)
    TxAM -3.5 (HFN)
    5PM
    Texas Tech +6 (HDT)
    Utah +4.5 (HDN)
    6PM
    Colorado -1.5 (HFN)
    Marshall +4 (RDT)


    Im sure there will be more...I don't have time to go through the rest.  I need someone to post the rest of the plays for me.  You guys collaborate and figure them out.  Thanks dudes, and good luck!


    1pm games are correct too I match up with Beavers picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:

    Not sure why covers does not have betonline lines up.  Very aggrivating!

    Im just going to use the vegas insider opening lines for tomorrow...i'm not sure where else to find the betonline openers.

    Official Saturday Plays:

    11AM
    MD +9 (RDA)
    12PM
    Purdue +8.5 (RDT)
    1PM
    StJohns +2 (HDT)
    SMU +14.5 (RDT)
    OKSt +3.5 (HDT)
    2PM
    Brown +4 (HDT)
    3PM
    Indiana St +13.5 (RDT)
    4PM
    URI +15 (RDN)
    Duke -10.5 (HFT)
    Texas +3.5 (HDT)
    TxAM -3.5 (HFN)
    5PM
    Texas Tech +6 (HDT)
    Utah +4.5 (HDN)
    6PM
    Colorado -1.5 (HFN)
    Marshall +4 (RDT)


    Im sure there will be more...I don't have time to go through the rest.  I need someone to post the rest of the plays for me.  You guys collaborate and figure them out.  Thanks dudes, and good luck!


    1pm games are correct too I match up with Beavers picks.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #243

    sorry upside, trying to crunch the numbers fast. Your right too from what I see bro. Thanks for the work.
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    sorry upside, trying to crunch the numbers fast. Your right too from what I see bro. Thanks for the work.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:56 PM ET #244

    so is smu still a play???
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    so is smu still a play???
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #245

    one post says smu is a play then one says its not..im very confused
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    one post says smu is a play then one says its not..im very confused
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:58 PM ET #246

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSSINGER:

    i just got in to this thread yesterday and i think you guys got something here...a little bit hectic and confusing this morning....upside r these the final plays as of now???? i hit with the youngstown game last night... thanks...
      For now .. yes .. more to come .. I always need a checkover from other more experienced guys in the thread to finalze all my plays though ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSSINGER:

    i just got in to this thread yesterday and i think you guys got something here...a little bit hectic and confusing this morning....upside r these the final plays as of now???? i hit with the youngstown game last night... thanks...
      For now .. yes .. more to come .. I always need a checkover from other more experienced guys in the thread to finalze all my plays though ..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 12:59 PM ET #247

    Unofficial plays per my spreadsheet with the following caveats:

    1) I have NOT looked at public sides so some of these might be no plays on the > 65% rule.

    2) Levels are based on opening lines

    3) I show the KP line and then the Opening Line per Vegas Insider.

    4) ALWAYS VALIDATE YOUR OWN PLAYS WHEN BETTING!!!  We are all capable of typos and errors.  If you just blindly follow someone else's recommendation without understanding why, you deserve to lose your money.

    Good luck...

    11:00:00 AM  Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM  Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM  SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM  St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM  OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM  Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM  Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM  Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM  Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM  RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM  TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM  Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM  Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM  Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM  Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM  Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM  Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM  Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM  Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM  IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM  Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM  LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM  Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM  Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM  N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM  San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM  Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM  Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

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    Unofficial plays per my spreadsheet with the following caveats:

    1) I have NOT looked at public sides so some of these might be no plays on the > 65% rule.

    2) Levels are based on opening lines

    3) I show the KP line and then the Opening Line per Vegas Insider.

    4) ALWAYS VALIDATE YOUR OWN PLAYS WHEN BETTING!!!  We are all capable of typos and errors.  If you just blindly follow someone else's recommendation without understanding why, you deserve to lose your money.

    Good luck...

    11:00:00 AM  Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM  Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM  SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM  St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM  OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM  Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM  Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM  Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM  Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM  RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM  TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM  Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM  Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM  Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM  Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM  Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM  Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM  Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM  Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM  IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM  Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM  LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM  Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM  Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM  N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM  San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM  Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM  Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:00 PM ET #248

    Russ,  I would look at Beavers post which says official plays. 
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:01 PM ET #249

    Terps suck ... Ouch tough way to down .. no points last 3 minutes of the game it seems like ?? Only put 1/2 unit on em .. Didn't like em that much ..
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:01 PM ET #250

    Maryland dumped ..........first...AWAY play that lost.even 60+% plays go down!!!!
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    Maryland dumped ..........first...AWAY play that lost.even 60+% plays go down!!!!
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