What makes me nervous is that the line movement in the USC game is eerily reminiscent of the line movement yesterday against UW. That made no sense to me and then I watched the best player in the Pac-12 play entire regulation looking like he was purposely throwing the game. I am not a "this game is fixed guy", but had Andrews not woken the F up in OT last night, I would have had no option but to believe that he threw that game. The guy leads the Pac-12 in scoring and he had 0 FG's and 4 turnovers in regulation. He even stepped into the lane on a FT (it looked COMEPLETELY on purpose) that cost his team a point.
Anyone see ANYTHING about a USC injury or illness? Thanks......
Homey I'd say you detected a fish. This USC game is starting to stink for sure.
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Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:
What makes me nervous is that the line movement in the USC game is eerily reminiscent of the line movement yesterday against UW. That made no sense to me and then I watched the best player in the Pac-12 play entire regulation looking like he was purposely throwing the game. I am not a "this game is fixed guy", but had Andrews not woken the F up in OT last night, I would have had no option but to believe that he threw that game. The guy leads the Pac-12 in scoring and he had 0 FG's and 4 turnovers in regulation. He even stepped into the lane on a FT (it looked COMEPLETELY on purpose) that cost his team a point.
Anyone see ANYTHING about a USC injury or illness? Thanks......
Homey I'd say you detected a fish. This USC game is starting to stink for sure.
Homey I'd say you detected a fish. This USC game is starting to stink for sure.
I honestly do not get caught up in line movement and things that are deemed "fishy" because I only play Pac-12 stuff and when I make my decisions, they are based ONLY on what I have seen and what I know. But....how Andrews played last night was certainly fishy. Had they not won and covered, I would have been fairly certain he was up to something.
That said, I just saw the USC line drop fro -5.5 to -4 in about 15 minutes and I thought for sure it had to be because of an announced injury, but I still haven't seen it. Going to assume USC is at full-strength now.
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Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:
Homey I'd say you detected a fish. This USC game is starting to stink for sure.
I honestly do not get caught up in line movement and things that are deemed "fishy" because I only play Pac-12 stuff and when I make my decisions, they are based ONLY on what I have seen and what I know. But....how Andrews played last night was certainly fishy. Had they not won and covered, I would have been fairly certain he was up to something.
That said, I just saw the USC line drop fro -5.5 to -4 in about 15 minutes and I thought for sure it had to be because of an announced injury, but I still haven't seen it. Going to assume USC is at full-strength now.
Well I am with IPFW too.This team has been an ATS machine this season (as others have pointed out) and are an amazing 10-2 on the road ATS. Even more impressive, they are 9-0 ATS after scoring 80 points in their previous game. IPFW beat then handily the first time out. IPFW loves the three and are ninth in the nation in 3-pt percentage, hitting 10 a game. South Dakota are 3-4 at home and have lost 6 of their last seven.
I pretty much play IPFW every time they play. I'm getting 2.5 with the local
My $$$$ is IPFW +2.5
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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Well I am with IPFW too.This team has been an ATS machine this season (as others have pointed out) and are an amazing 10-2 on the road ATS. Even more impressive, they are 9-0 ATS after scoring 80 points in their previous game. IPFW beat then handily the first time out. IPFW loves the three and are ninth in the nation in 3-pt percentage, hitting 10 a game. South Dakota are 3-4 at home and have lost 6 of their last seven.
I pretty much play IPFW every time they play. I'm getting 2.5 with the local
Can anyone find anything on the internet - an article or something - that explains why the Colorado/Oregon total is dropping? Its down to 151 and these two teams scored 178 vs. each other just 2.5 weeks ago. Sometimes, an article will come out where a coach says, "Well, our #1 goal tonight is to slow down the game and keep Oregon from running" or something like that. They scored 178 at Colorado, who is the slower of the two teams. I always say the home team or the better team dictates the pace of a game, and Oregon is both the home team AND the better team. 151 is low and I was wondering if it was because Colorado has stated publicly that they are going to slow the game way down or something like that. Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone find anything on the internet - an article or something - that explains why the Colorado/Oregon total is dropping? Its down to 151 and these two teams scored 178 vs. each other just 2.5 weeks ago. Sometimes, an article will come out where a coach says, "Well, our #1 goal tonight is to slow down the game and keep Oregon from running" or something like that. They scored 178 at Colorado, who is the slower of the two teams. I always say the home team or the better team dictates the pace of a game, and Oregon is both the home team AND the better team. 151 is low and I was wondering if it was because Colorado has stated publicly that they are going to slow the game way down or something like that. Thanks in advance.
I just got +3.5 so I'm a little concerned with where all this South Dakota money is coming from but I trust you guys more than my ability to read where the sharp money is at.
Anyone gonna sprinkle a little ML action on this one? +140 right now is looking pretty enticing...
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All Aboard the IPFW Train???
I just got +3.5 so I'm a little concerned with where all this South Dakota money is coming from but I trust you guys more than my ability to read where the sharp money is at.
Anyone gonna sprinkle a little ML action on this one? +140 right now is looking pretty enticing...
I just got +3.5 so I'm a little concerned with where all this South Dakota money is coming from but I trust you guys more than my ability to read where the sharp money is at.
Anyone gonna sprinkle a little ML action on this one? +140 right now is looking pretty enticing...
I disregarded the spread and took IPFW +135. I capped the game as a tie, 77-77, so I figure there is value for me in the ML at +135 or more.
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Quote Originally Posted by Da_Oracle:
All Aboard the IPFW Train???
I just got +3.5 so I'm a little concerned with where all this South Dakota money is coming from but I trust you guys more than my ability to read where the sharp money is at.
Anyone gonna sprinkle a little ML action on this one? +140 right now is looking pretty enticing...
I disregarded the spread and took IPFW +135. I capped the game as a tie, 77-77, so I figure there is value for me in the ML at +135 or more.
OK. Call me the sucker, but this is just too enticing.......
$$$$ PLAY = Colorado/Oregon OVER 151
Those who know me from CBS know that my specialty is Pac-12 totals. This is just too low for me to pass up on. I am not afraid of a "sucker line" if what I have seen with my own eyes by watching both teams 10+ times each tells me to go against that sucker line. Like I mentioned earlier, these two teams played to a total of 178 points in Colorado just 2.5 weeks ago. Oregon is a run-first, ask questions later, team. Everyone knows it. My longtime total capping theory involves that the better team OR the home team will almost always dictate the pace of a game. Well, Oregon is the better team AND the home team. Even if Colorado walks the ball up on every possession and uses 25 seconds on every possession, they are going to have a really hard time preventing Oregon from pushing the pace and, unlike past years, Colorado does not shy away from a fast pace. Colorado has scored 82PPG in their last 5 while Oregon has scored 87. Nothing about this game would make you think that the teams won't at least play near those averages. Oregon has balanced scoring and all they want to do is attack, attack, attack. Colorado is playing well, but Oregon is the class of the Pac-12 and Colorado is not going to be able to control the pace against the best team in the league in what is the most vicious environment in the league. Oregon is not that strong defensively and are more concerned about getting the next bucket than they are about stopping their opponent on every possession. Barring just terrible shooting, I don't see how this stays under. Oregon 91 - Colorado 80
Thanks guys and best of luck today!
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OK. Call me the sucker, but this is just too enticing.......
$$$$ PLAY = Colorado/Oregon OVER 151
Those who know me from CBS know that my specialty is Pac-12 totals. This is just too low for me to pass up on. I am not afraid of a "sucker line" if what I have seen with my own eyes by watching both teams 10+ times each tells me to go against that sucker line. Like I mentioned earlier, these two teams played to a total of 178 points in Colorado just 2.5 weeks ago. Oregon is a run-first, ask questions later, team. Everyone knows it. My longtime total capping theory involves that the better team OR the home team will almost always dictate the pace of a game. Well, Oregon is the better team AND the home team. Even if Colorado walks the ball up on every possession and uses 25 seconds on every possession, they are going to have a really hard time preventing Oregon from pushing the pace and, unlike past years, Colorado does not shy away from a fast pace. Colorado has scored 82PPG in their last 5 while Oregon has scored 87. Nothing about this game would make you think that the teams won't at least play near those averages. Oregon has balanced scoring and all they want to do is attack, attack, attack. Colorado is playing well, but Oregon is the class of the Pac-12 and Colorado is not going to be able to control the pace against the best team in the league in what is the most vicious environment in the league. Oregon is not that strong defensively and are more concerned about getting the next bucket than they are about stopping their opponent on every possession. Barring just terrible shooting, I don't see how this stays under. Oregon 91 - Colorado 80
I just got +3.5 so I'm a little concerned with where all this South Dakota money is coming from but I trust you guys more than my ability to read where the sharp money is at.
Anyone gonna sprinkle a little ML action on this one? +140 right now is looking pretty enticing...
My local has the ML at +125. I may put a little on it. Win or lose, I just love playing this team
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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Quote Originally Posted by Da_Oracle:
All Aboard the IPFW Train???
I just got +3.5 so I'm a little concerned with where all this South Dakota money is coming from but I trust you guys more than my ability to read where the sharp money is at.
Anyone gonna sprinkle a little ML action on this one? +140 right now is looking pretty enticing...
My local has the ML at +125. I may put a little on it. Win or lose, I just love playing this team
First of thanks to USC for starting this. As I mentioned before I live in the heart of the Horizon league and follow it quite closely. Today I like Wright State -1.5 vs Uw Milwaukee. The Raiders already beat Milwaukee on the road in overtime and were up big in this game until a biu Milwaukee run at end of regulation.The raiders are very good defensively and will not lose 3 in a row after losing two straight on the road. This is a big game towards a top 2 seed in the conference tourney and the double bye. Wright state is also really hard to beat at the Nutter Center bein 10-1 at ho!e. Wright State -1.5 good luck god bless
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First of thanks to USC for starting this. As I mentioned before I live in the heart of the Horizon league and follow it quite closely. Today I like Wright State -1.5 vs Uw Milwaukee. The Raiders already beat Milwaukee on the road in overtime and were up big in this game until a biu Milwaukee run at end of regulation.The raiders are very good defensively and will not lose 3 in a row after losing two straight on the road. This is a big game towards a top 2 seed in the conference tourney and the double bye. Wright state is also really hard to beat at the Nutter Center bein 10-1 at ho!e. Wright State -1.5 good luck god bless
First of thanks to USC for starting this. As I mentioned before I live in the heart of the Horizon league and follow it quite closely. Today I like Wright State -1.5 vs Uw Milwaukee. The Raiders already beat Milwaukee on the road in overtime and were up big in this game until a biu Milwaukee run at end of regulation.The raiders are very good defensively and will not lose 3 in a row after losing two straight on the road. This is a big game towards a top 2 seed in the conference tourney and the double bye. Wright state is also really hard to beat at the Nutter Center bein 10-1 at ho!e. Wright State -1.5 good luck god bless
Hey Gtime. Did you want this to be a "$$$$ PLAY" and have it tracked? If so, make sure you include that in your post somewhere. If it is not clearly mentioned the post that is a "$$$$ PLAY", then I cant count it as one and will consider it just a posted play and won't track it. Thanks and try to clarify it before it tips!
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Quote Originally Posted by GtimeButler:
First of thanks to USC for starting this. As I mentioned before I live in the heart of the Horizon league and follow it quite closely. Today I like Wright State -1.5 vs Uw Milwaukee. The Raiders already beat Milwaukee on the road in overtime and were up big in this game until a biu Milwaukee run at end of regulation.The raiders are very good defensively and will not lose 3 in a row after losing two straight on the road. This is a big game towards a top 2 seed in the conference tourney and the double bye. Wright state is also really hard to beat at the Nutter Center bein 10-1 at ho!e. Wright State -1.5 good luck god bless
Hey Gtime. Did you want this to be a "$$$$ PLAY" and have it tracked? If so, make sure you include that in your post somewhere. If it is not clearly mentioned the post that is a "$$$$ PLAY", then I cant count it as one and will consider it just a posted play and won't track it. Thanks and try to clarify it before it tips!
OK. Call me the sucker, but this is just too enticing.......
$$$$ PLAY = Colorado/Oregon OVER 151
Those who know me from CBS know that my specialty is Pac-12 totals. This is just too low for me to pass up on. I am not afraid of a "sucker line" if what I have seen with my own eyes by watching both teams 10+ times each tells me to go against that sucker line. Like I mentioned earlier, these two teams played to a total of 178 points in Colorado just 2.5 weeks ago. Oregon is a run-first, ask questions later, team. Everyone knows it. My longtime total capping theory involves that the better team OR the home team will almost always dictate the pace of a game. Well, Oregon is the better team AND the home team. Even if Colorado walks the ball up on every possession and uses 25 seconds on every possession, they are going to have a really hard time preventing Oregon from pushing the pace and, unlike past years, Colorado does not shy away from a fast pace. Colorado has scored 82PPG in their last 5 while Oregon has scored 87. Nothing about this game would make you think that the teams won't at least play near those averages. Oregon has balanced scoring and all they want to do is attack, attack, attack. Colorado is playing well, but Oregon is the class of the Pac-12 and Colorado is not going to be able to control the pace against the best team in the league in what is the most vicious environment in the league. Oregon is not that strong defensively and are more concerned about getting the next bucket than they are about stopping their opponent on every possession. Barring just terrible shooting, I don't see how this stays under. Oregon 91 - Colorado 80
Thanks guys and best of luck today!
Books really just go off of kenpoms numbers and adjust where they feel necessary. Kenpom is strictly stats based and has the game 80-71, so it seems they just grabbed that number and threw it on the board.
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Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:
OK. Call me the sucker, but this is just too enticing.......
$$$$ PLAY = Colorado/Oregon OVER 151
Those who know me from CBS know that my specialty is Pac-12 totals. This is just too low for me to pass up on. I am not afraid of a "sucker line" if what I have seen with my own eyes by watching both teams 10+ times each tells me to go against that sucker line. Like I mentioned earlier, these two teams played to a total of 178 points in Colorado just 2.5 weeks ago. Oregon is a run-first, ask questions later, team. Everyone knows it. My longtime total capping theory involves that the better team OR the home team will almost always dictate the pace of a game. Well, Oregon is the better team AND the home team. Even if Colorado walks the ball up on every possession and uses 25 seconds on every possession, they are going to have a really hard time preventing Oregon from pushing the pace and, unlike past years, Colorado does not shy away from a fast pace. Colorado has scored 82PPG in their last 5 while Oregon has scored 87. Nothing about this game would make you think that the teams won't at least play near those averages. Oregon has balanced scoring and all they want to do is attack, attack, attack. Colorado is playing well, but Oregon is the class of the Pac-12 and Colorado is not going to be able to control the pace against the best team in the league in what is the most vicious environment in the league. Oregon is not that strong defensively and are more concerned about getting the next bucket than they are about stopping their opponent on every possession. Barring just terrible shooting, I don't see how this stays under. Oregon 91 - Colorado 80
Thanks guys and best of luck today!
Books really just go off of kenpoms numbers and adjust where they feel necessary. Kenpom is strictly stats based and has the game 80-71, so it seems they just grabbed that number and threw it on the board.
First of thanks to USC for starting this. As I mentioned before I live in the heart of the Horizon league and follow it quite closely. Today I like Wright State -1.5 vs Uw Milwaukee. The Raiders already beat Milwaukee on the road in overtime and were up big in this game until a biu Milwaukee run at end of regulation.The raiders are very good defensively and will not lose 3 in a row after losing two straight on the road. This is a big game towards a top 2 seed in the conference tourney and the double bye. Wright state is also really hard to beat at the Nutter Center bein 10-1 at ho!e. Wright State -1.5 good luck god bless
$$$$$play seems like my posts are not showing up so sorry if others are seeing the same post many times
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Quote Originally Posted by GtimeButler:
First of thanks to USC for starting this. As I mentioned before I live in the heart of the Horizon league and follow it quite closely. Today I like Wright State -1.5 vs Uw Milwaukee. The Raiders already beat Milwaukee on the road in overtime and were up big in this game until a biu Milwaukee run at end of regulation.The raiders are very good defensively and will not lose 3 in a row after losing two straight on the road. This is a big game towards a top 2 seed in the conference tourney and the double bye. Wright state is also really hard to beat at the Nutter Center bein 10-1 at ho!e. Wright State -1.5 good luck god bless
$$$$$play seems like my posts are not showing up so sorry if others are seeing the same post many times
like a few tonight but i'll stick to this one for my $$$$ Play
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GoldenGophers +8.5
Well, definitely not an attractive pick. NW laying 8 after a horrible run of shooting lousy. finally playing some good teams and getting their garbage pushed in. i believe there only quality win was wisc. the rest of the wins were cupcakes. Minny on the other hand has played better recently playing Indy twice, purdue, mich, and mich. st all close respectable losses. hearing an interview of one of the teammates on the gophers said, ' we are playing more as a team now, and don't care who the go to man is." So despite losing 14 of last 15. and 0-10 in conf play. they seem to still be hungry and fight. unlike northwestern. the cats will be thinking they can coast to another victory, but i believe it will be tougher this time around.
nw 1-5 ats hm, mn 4-1 ats l4.
GL
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like a few tonight but i'll stick to this one for my $$$$ Play
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GoldenGophers +8.5
Well, definitely not an attractive pick. NW laying 8 after a horrible run of shooting lousy. finally playing some good teams and getting their garbage pushed in. i believe there only quality win was wisc. the rest of the wins were cupcakes. Minny on the other hand has played better recently playing Indy twice, purdue, mich, and mich. st all close respectable losses. hearing an interview of one of the teammates on the gophers said, ' we are playing more as a team now, and don't care who the go to man is." So despite losing 14 of last 15. and 0-10 in conf play. they seem to still be hungry and fight. unlike northwestern. the cats will be thinking they can coast to another victory, but i believe it will be tougher this time around.
My Play $$$$ Temple -2 I am a numbers guy 11-7 ATS Tulsa 4-5 rd common opponent SMU at home 69-81 loss by Tulsa Temple won 89-80 add Cinn Tulsa loss on the road 57-76 Temple won on the road 77-70 these are two of the best teams in the conference record 1-0 second day posting
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My Play $$$$ Temple -2 I am a numbers guy 11-7 ATS Tulsa 4-5 rd common opponent SMU at home 69-81 loss by Tulsa Temple won 89-80 add Cinn Tulsa loss on the road 57-76 Temple won on the road 77-70 these are two of the best teams in the conference record 1-0 second day posting
Systemy has given me permission to put any of his plays on this board, so here's the first one.
He has not posted any plays for two days and is 5-0 outside of Covers on Twitter.
I have a tout who used to be here at Covers and he also has UC Santa Barbara as a large play for the day. This guy does not post very many large plays at all.
So, that's my choice of the day.
I may occasionally put in my own $$$$ plays (I almost put in Clemson that was a winner and a $$$$ of someone else on that day), but for the most part, I'll put in Systemy's plays to contribute to the value of this thread.
I suggest to all of you to always put your $$$$ play choice at the very top of each of your posts, in bold and isolated in a single line, like how I did so above.
That will make it MUCH easier for Holmey to home in on what your $$$$ play choice is for the day.
If you bury your play in the middle of a paragraph, then Holmey (and others) will have to wade through your words to find it.
It can be helpful if you also include the time of the game, along with the time zone.
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$$$$ Play ~~ UC Santa Barbara -1 (7pm, PDT)
Why?
In one word: "Systemy."
Systemy has given me permission to put any of his plays on this board, so here's the first one.
He has not posted any plays for two days and is 5-0 outside of Covers on Twitter.
I have a tout who used to be here at Covers and he also has UC Santa Barbara as a large play for the day. This guy does not post very many large plays at all.
So, that's my choice of the day.
I may occasionally put in my own $$$$ plays (I almost put in Clemson that was a winner and a $$$$ of someone else on that day), but for the most part, I'll put in Systemy's plays to contribute to the value of this thread.
I suggest to all of you to always put your $$$$ play choice at the very top of each of your posts, in bold and isolated in a single line, like how I did so above.
That will make it MUCH easier for Holmey to home in on what your $$$$ play choice is for the day.
If you bury your play in the middle of a paragraph, then Holmey (and others) will have to wade through your words to find it.
It can be helpful if you also include the time of the game, along with the time zone.
South Dakota plays in a dome. Three point shooters sometimes struggle with to make the adjustment. Check out how IPFW usually shoots it at USD before you unload. Good Luck to all
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South Dakota plays in a dome. Three point shooters sometimes struggle with to make the adjustment. Check out how IPFW usually shoots it at USD before you unload. Good Luck to all
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