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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 12:58 PM ET #801

    UAB under

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    Wow, great thread, great write-ups, and a great record!!



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    12/28 Conference Notes Cont'd: One important thing to note on the Big West Conference season: A majority of these schools are close to one another, and with very little attendance, and a hop/skip/jump short bus rides, there really isn’t a home court advantage on too many schools. Pacific is one of the schools who has showed an advantage, but they also have the best coach and have been the best team for a few years now. Some decent matchups in the Big West Conference tonight, with probably the best matchup being Long Beach State and UC Santa Barbara. Both of these teams prepared themselves well for the conference run as they both played high-end schedule strengths.  I will look elsewhere in the conference, and that’s with UC Davis. These two teams played each other three times last year with UC Davis coming out on top all three times, and all three featured close ballgames, so the familiarity is there. They shot a worse percentage from the floor in two of those games, and still won outright.  As for this year’s makeup of each team, I have commented on UC Davis quite a bit in previous posts. Having two guards in the backcourt that are 6’7” and 6’8” is going to be a nightmare matchup for any team with having to defend Payne and Harden. Payne is a great distributor of the ball, and Harden was the Hustle player of the year in the conference last year. Coming into the year, they were hoping to find some role players to go along with the big-two, and early they could not find anyone. It took an injury about four games ago, and a slight change in offensive philosophy to find a role player, and that role player is Eddie Miller. He’s started the last four games for the Aggies and has played better than both Payne and Harden in the past four games, which included road games against North Dakota State and UCLA. They covered both of those games as dogs, and primarily featured five guard offensive sets, which is a slight change from earlier in the year when they were a more focused defensive squad. They’ve taken a weakness in rebounding, and put that into scoring more points and getting up and down at a faster pace, which is what they’ll need in this conference to compete, which I fully expect them to do this year. In many instances, when a team loses it’s defensive stud (like UC Davis has done here with Lowenthal), they fail to take advantage and see a drop off. In this case, for some odd reason, they haven’t really seen a dropoff, and have actually produced a better product than before. They’ve taken the smallest guard on the court (which is 6’3” by the way), and replaced his in-effective offense with a 6’5” slasher and scorer, and it’s paid off. UC Davis will probably start the seven footer in the middle to start, but I don’t expect him to see many minutes in this contest. I’ve also commented on Fullerton a few times this year, primarily noting the huge amount of luck they had last year, playing 6 overtime games, and sneaking out a ton of close victories. Those things usually adjust to the mean after you lose a few players, and that’s what is happening. They have four wins, two of those wins came against San Diego, and another a win against Occidental. Coming in, the team was in trouble. They’re PG Streeter decided to transfer in the off-season, and Bryce Webster decided to go pro (yet he was undrafted). They brought in a ton of junior college transfers to adapt to going up-tempo, and it’s paid off a bit offensively, but their defense is one of the worst in the country. Probably, the most important player they brought in was Andre Hardy, and he just returned from an injury just one game ago. He’s small for a post player at 6’6”, but he was a fantastic rebounder at Oral Roberts. The lone returner that I’m worried about is Peltier who hit 70+ three-balls as a freshman, but without a true PG to distribute the ball, he’s being forced to take shots that he normally wouldn’t, thus putting it up at only a 34% clip. He comes in at 5’11”, and was guarded in all three games last year by Joe Harden who is 6’7” and this is key. In the 77 minutes Peltier played in last year’s matchups, he was 8-20 from the field, however, when Harden was on the court, Peltier shot 4-16. Harden was in foul trouble in the second meeting last year, and while Harden was on the bench at the end of the 1H, Peltier hit a few three’s. He would go quiet the rest of the game, until the last few minutes of regulation and OT due to Harden fouling out late 2H. Yes, I’m sick that I know all of this, but I watched this game last year with great detail b/c these two were going to meet in the Conference tournament a few days after this game was played and I wanted to see what was going to transpire. It was the one game that really caught me on the makeup of this UC Davis team, and it’s helped in most situations I’ve used them...
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    12/28 Conference Notes Cont'd: One important thing to note on the Big West Conference season: A majority of these schools are close to one another, and with very little attendance, and a hop/skip/jump short bus rides, there really isn’t a home court advantage on too many schools. Pacific is one of the schools who has showed an advantage, but they also have the best coach and have been the best team for a few years now. Some decent matchups in the Big West Conference tonight, with probably the best matchup being Long Beach State and UC Santa Barbara. Both of these teams prepared themselves well for the conference run as they both played high-end schedule strengths.  I will look elsewhere in the conference, and that’s with UC Davis. These two teams played each other three times last year with UC Davis coming out on top all three times, and all three featured close ballgames, so the familiarity is there. They shot a worse percentage from the floor in two of those games, and still won outright.  As for this year’s makeup of each team, I have commented on UC Davis quite a bit in previous posts. Having two guards in the backcourt that are 6’7” and 6’8” is going to be a nightmare matchup for any team with having to defend Payne and Harden. Payne is a great distributor of the ball, and Harden was the Hustle player of the year in the conference last year. Coming into the year, they were hoping to find some role players to go along with the big-two, and early they could not find anyone. It took an injury about four games ago, and a slight change in offensive philosophy to find a role player, and that role player is Eddie Miller. He’s started the last four games for the Aggies and has played better than both Payne and Harden in the past four games, which included road games against North Dakota State and UCLA. They covered both of those games as dogs, and primarily featured five guard offensive sets, which is a slight change from earlier in the year when they were a more focused defensive squad. They’ve taken a weakness in rebounding, and put that into scoring more points and getting up and down at a faster pace, which is what they’ll need in this conference to compete, which I fully expect them to do this year. In many instances, when a team loses it’s defensive stud (like UC Davis has done here with Lowenthal), they fail to take advantage and see a drop off. In this case, for some odd reason, they haven’t really seen a dropoff, and have actually produced a better product than before. They’ve taken the smallest guard on the court (which is 6’3” by the way), and replaced his in-effective offense with a 6’5” slasher and scorer, and it’s paid off. UC Davis will probably start the seven footer in the middle to start, but I don’t expect him to see many minutes in this contest. I’ve also commented on Fullerton a few times this year, primarily noting the huge amount of luck they had last year, playing 6 overtime games, and sneaking out a ton of close victories. Those things usually adjust to the mean after you lose a few players, and that’s what is happening. They have four wins, two of those wins came against San Diego, and another a win against Occidental. Coming in, the team was in trouble. They’re PG Streeter decided to transfer in the off-season, and Bryce Webster decided to go pro (yet he was undrafted). They brought in a ton of junior college transfers to adapt to going up-tempo, and it’s paid off a bit offensively, but their defense is one of the worst in the country. Probably, the most important player they brought in was Andre Hardy, and he just returned from an injury just one game ago. He’s small for a post player at 6’6”, but he was a fantastic rebounder at Oral Roberts. The lone returner that I’m worried about is Peltier who hit 70+ three-balls as a freshman, but without a true PG to distribute the ball, he’s being forced to take shots that he normally wouldn’t, thus putting it up at only a 34% clip. He comes in at 5’11”, and was guarded in all three games last year by Joe Harden who is 6’7” and this is key. In the 77 minutes Peltier played in last year’s matchups, he was 8-20 from the field, however, when Harden was on the court, Peltier shot 4-16. Harden was in foul trouble in the second meeting last year, and while Harden was on the bench at the end of the 1H, Peltier hit a few three’s. He would go quiet the rest of the game, until the last few minutes of regulation and OT due to Harden fouling out late 2H. Yes, I’m sick that I know all of this, but I watched this game last year with great detail b/c these two were going to meet in the Conference tournament a few days after this game was played and I wanted to see what was going to transpire. It was the one game that really caught me on the makeup of this UC Davis team, and it’s helped in most situations I’ve used them...
     
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     As for tonight’s game, there is two keys I see present. One, UC Davis has always been a team that has liked to slow itself down, get the best shot available, and use its height to its advantage in the half-court setting. However, they can no play both styles, and they’re being forced to play both styles with the help of Eddie Miller’s scoring. They have not shyed away from getting up and down against a high pace team this year, and they shouldn’t here. They’re not doing any offensive rebounding or crashing the glass, and with the addition of Hardy to the Fullerton roster, they won’t be able to tonight either, so they’re going to get out and go. The second key is Harden on Peltier as I’ve noted. If Harden can stay active in the game, he should be able to put a strangle on Peltier, thus limiting the Fullerton offense immensely. This is a play simply on what I feel is the better conference team as a whole and a fade on a team which I feel will struggle in the Big West all year. The team owns an impressive 65-29 record at home under Burton, but that is contributed to a 35-3 non-conference mark against teams they have no business playing (they have the worst strength of schedule combined last five years in Big West). So, they’re just 30-26 in conference home games, nothing to be overly excited or fearful of, considering they have had better teams than this one in the past, also noting an average of below 700 people attending games this year. Neither of these teams are world beaters, but there should be a significant talent difference in conference play.

    No real value in the Summit League openers, Oakland probably could be favored by more than the 25 they currently are.  Slight lean to IPFW, decent game and matchups against Oral Roberts. Those two teams are pretty similar and should be close to each other in the Summit by year’s end. Oral Roberts offense has been atrocious with the loss of Craion early in the year, and they haven’t been able to recover being on the road basically since the beginning of the season. It should help that they’re at home, but Craion is to Oral Roberts as Hazell is to Seton Hall, only Craion was counted on for much more than offense. He scored, he slashed, he defended, he rebounded, and he got to the foul line. IPFW offense is decent enough to hang.

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    Ball State/Valparaiso Under 135 (1 Unit)

    DNP: Siena/St. Bonaventure Over 139, IPFW +9.5

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     As for tonight’s game, there is two keys I see present. One, UC Davis has always been a team that has liked to slow itself down, get the best shot available, and use its height to its advantage in the half-court setting. However, they can no play both styles, and they’re being forced to play both styles with the help of Eddie Miller’s scoring. They have not shyed away from getting up and down against a high pace team this year, and they shouldn’t here. They’re not doing any offensive rebounding or crashing the glass, and with the addition of Hardy to the Fullerton roster, they won’t be able to tonight either, so they’re going to get out and go. The second key is Harden on Peltier as I’ve noted. If Harden can stay active in the game, he should be able to put a strangle on Peltier, thus limiting the Fullerton offense immensely. This is a play simply on what I feel is the better conference team as a whole and a fade on a team which I feel will struggle in the Big West all year. The team owns an impressive 65-29 record at home under Burton, but that is contributed to a 35-3 non-conference mark against teams they have no business playing (they have the worst strength of schedule combined last five years in Big West). So, they’re just 30-26 in conference home games, nothing to be overly excited or fearful of, considering they have had better teams than this one in the past, also noting an average of below 700 people attending games this year. Neither of these teams are world beaters, but there should be a significant talent difference in conference play.

    No real value in the Summit League openers, Oakland probably could be favored by more than the 25 they currently are.  Slight lean to IPFW, decent game and matchups against Oral Roberts. Those two teams are pretty similar and should be close to each other in the Summit by year’s end. Oral Roberts offense has been atrocious with the loss of Craion early in the year, and they haven’t been able to recover being on the road basically since the beginning of the season. It should help that they’re at home, but Craion is to Oral Roberts as Hazell is to Seton Hall, only Craion was counted on for much more than offense. He scored, he slashed, he defended, he rebounded, and he got to the foul line. IPFW offense is decent enough to hang.

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    UC Davis +2 (2 Units)
    Ball State/Valparaiso Under 135 (1 Unit)

    DNP: Siena/St. Bonaventure Over 139, IPFW +9.5

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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 3:35 PM ET #806

    I'm assuming DNP is the line where it is no longer worth a play?



    Man, you are really on top of shit... UC Davis it is!  Thanks for sharing all of your work with us.  It takes a whole lot of commitment to cap the games early so that you have time to  solidify your plays, and then have the time to come on and spend half and hour posting your thoughts.




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    I'm assuming DNP is the line where it is no longer worth a play?



    Man, you are really on top of shit... UC Davis it is!  Thanks for sharing all of your work with us.  It takes a whole lot of commitment to cap the games early so that you have time to  solidify your plays, and then have the time to come on and spend half and hour posting your thoughts.




    Win or lose Your work is much appreciated.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    I'm assuming DNP is the line where it is no longer worth a play?



    Man, you are really on top of shit... UC Davis it is!  Thanks for sharing all of your work with us.  It takes a whole lot of commitment to cap the games early so that you have time to  solidify your plays, and then have the time to come on and spend half and hour posting your thoughts.




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    DNP = Did Not Play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    I'm assuming DNP is the line where it is no longer worth a play?



    Man, you are really on top of shit... UC Davis it is!  Thanks for sharing all of your work with us.  It takes a whole lot of commitment to cap the games early so that you have time to  solidify your plays, and then have the time to come on and spend half and hour posting your thoughts.




    Win or lose Your work is much appreciated.

    DNP = Did Not Play
     
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    hey neil love the uc davis play tonight hope to hit big.  question for ya tho in feb are u going to get more into teams tht will be playin in the bracket for the march madness?  greatly appreciate everything u do
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    hey neil love the uc davis play tonight hope to hit big.  question for ya tho in feb are u going to get more into teams tht will be playin in the bracket for the march madness?  greatly appreciate everything u do
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by miniman44444:

    hey neil love the uc davis play tonight hope to hit big.  question for ya tho in feb are u going to get more into teams tht will be playin in the bracket for the march madness?  greatly appreciate everything u do

    Depends on value. In the past, a majority of my focus has been on the smaller conferences as those hold the most value in my eyes.
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    hey neil love the uc davis play tonight hope to hit big.  question for ya tho in feb are u going to get more into teams tht will be playin in the bracket for the march madness?  greatly appreciate everything u do

    Depends on value. In the past, a majority of my focus has been on the smaller conferences as those hold the most value in my eyes.
     
    drifter44
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 4:40 PM ET #813

    Great stuff ,I have skimmed over your posts and not taken time to read one in its entirety. I just had a terrible weekend betting, along with Christmas spending and took the time to digest your post fully. Thanks for your efforts I appreciate it!! 
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    Great stuff ,I have skimmed over your posts and not taken time to read one in its entirety. I just had a terrible weekend betting, along with Christmas spending and took the time to digest your post fully. Thanks for your efforts I appreciate it!! 
     
    Jimguerr
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 4:51 PM ET #814

    WELL DONE! GOOD LUCK!
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    Thanks for all the winners!

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    Thanks for all the winners!

     
    LAkers247
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 4:55 PM ET #816

    nropp, a wise man once told me, small schools is the only way to break the bookie.... this is why i follow you

    thank you for everything

    gonna ride uc davis hopefullly they can make up for the loss vs pepperdine last saturday

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    nropp, a wise man once told me, small schools is the only way to break the bookie.... this is why i follow you

    thank you for everything

    gonna ride uc davis hopefullly they can make up for the loss vs pepperdine last saturday

     
    wmycw
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 6:35 PM ET #817

    I will go with you on this one UCD +2 rather then bob's lean.

    Will do Ball State/Valparaiso Under 62 1H

    Thanks, Good Luck

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    I will go with you on this one UCD +2 rather then bob's lean.

    Will do Ball State/Valparaiso Under 62 1H

    Thanks, Good Luck

     
    wizkid30
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 6:51 PM ET #818

    BOL Nropp

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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 6:58 PM ET #819

     Dont forget this!
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    smartz
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 8:12 PM ET #820

    GET MONEY SON
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 9:56 PM ET #821

    winner on the UNDER

    69-52

    no worries

    nropp11 does it again



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    69-52

    no worries

    nropp11 does it again



     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 10:38 PM ET #822

    The best wake up call this morning, see all wins and one to go.

    Thanks Dr Nropp.

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    The best wake up call this morning, see all wins and one to go.

    Thanks Dr Nropp.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 11:27 PM ET #823

    tailed you on UC Davis and IPFW. Thank you
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 11:44 PM ET #824

    Thank you for UC DAVIS!!!
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    Solid handicapping..........
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