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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 12:07 PM ET #501

    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

    I'm liking Minnesota here -14.5. They don't have another game for 8 days and it'll be interesting to see how the Akron boys handle walking around that cold ass part of the country. I can just hear them saying... "let's get this game over with and get out of this cold shit." My son, who lives in the Twin Cities, got to know KG a few years ago and asked if the weather affects teams from warmer climates. He told him it does because they come there in the dead of winter with a bad attitude and just want to get the game over with and the hell out of Minnesota!

    I'm not sure I would consider Akron, OH a cold climate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

    I'm liking Minnesota here -14.5. They don't have another game for 8 days and it'll be interesting to see how the Akron boys handle walking around that cold ass part of the country. I can just hear them saying... "let's get this game over with and get out of this cold shit." My son, who lives in the Twin Cities, got to know KG a few years ago and asked if the weather affects teams from warmer climates. He told him it does because they come there in the dead of winter with a bad attitude and just want to get the game over with and the hell out of Minnesota!

    I'm not sure I would consider Akron, OH a cold climate.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 12:08 PM ET #502

    Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:


    I'm not sure I would consider Akron, OH a cold climate.

    I'm not sure I would consider Akron, OH a warm climate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:


    I'm not sure I would consider Akron, OH a cold climate.

    I'm not sure I would consider Akron, OH a warm climate.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 12:14 PM ET #503

    No doubt, but it's not -20 with wind chill.
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 12:39 PM ET #504

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipe-Light:

    There is not a whole lot of difference in weather between these places. And they dont play out doors.

    Man,for a moment there I thought I was on the football thread..Not sure why we are discussing " Weather" on Basketball, but anyway GL.

    "Stop chasing the money and start chasing the passion."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipe-Light:

    There is not a whole lot of difference in weather between these places. And they dont play out doors.

    Man,for a moment there I thought I was on the football thread..Not sure why we are discussing " Weather" on Basketball, but anyway GL.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 4:12 PM ET #505

    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

    I'm liking Minnesota here -14.5. They don't have another game for 8 days and it'll be interesting to see how the Akron boys handle walking around that cold ass part of the country. I can just hear them saying... "let's get this game over with and get out of this cold shit." My son, who lives in the Twin Cities, got to know KG a few years ago and asked if the weather affects teams from warmer climates. He told him it does because they come there in the dead of winter with a bad attitude and just want to get the game over with and the hell out of Minnesota!


    I live in Akron....I got 8 inches of snow on the ground, its 20 degrees and its been snowing the better half of the last 10 days....Do you even know where Akron is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

    I'm liking Minnesota here -14.5. They don't have another game for 8 days and it'll be interesting to see how the Akron boys handle walking around that cold ass part of the country. I can just hear them saying... "let's get this game over with and get out of this cold shit." My son, who lives in the Twin Cities, got to know KG a few years ago and asked if the weather affects teams from warmer climates. He told him it does because they come there in the dead of winter with a bad attitude and just want to get the game over with and the hell out of Minnesota!


    I live in Akron....I got 8 inches of snow on the ground, its 20 degrees and its been snowing the better half of the last 10 days....Do you even know where Akron is?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 2:12 AM ET #506

    NRopp, get hot again soon... thread was 3 pages deep
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 9:00 AM ET #507

    Tailed you on the Wake under
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 11:10 AM ET #508

    Any value on FAU at -4.5?
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 11:54 AM ET #509

    12/15 Results: Pretty weird night of basketball w/ Greensboro hanging with Wake Forest (looks like they put too much focus on defense and it showed with their offense), and Santa Barbara beating UNLV. 

    Sides: 24-16, +11.60
    Totals: 10-7, +1.00
    DNP: 25-20


    12/16 Conference Notes: Get some conference action today for a change of pace. I like Florida Atlantic in the Sun Belt as I have them tabbed in the upper half at the #4 slot. On a side note, I have Troy in the bottom cellar spot. The two teams have played similarly tough strength of schedules and Florida Atlantic has a .500 record while Troy hasn’t won a game against a Division 1 opponent. When comparing conference opponents, I have to look at the makeup of both teams coming into the year and compare them to current status and results. Jarvis has turned around a program despite having veteran leadership. He took a team that was comprised of freshman last year and played to a .500 season. All of these freshman return, and as I have stated before, the most notable difference in a college athlete is the improvement from the freshman year to the sophomore year so much is expected of the team this year. Coming in to the year, I was expecting Florida Atlantic to be a more up-tempo style squad considering they were a well-balanced offense with much athleticism especially at the guard positions with Taylor and Gantt in the backcourt. What I failed to realize is that the biggest profit of the freshman to sophomore turn-over would be on the defensive end. I also failed to realize that Taylor wouldn’t be one of the starting five this year, primarily due to his lack of height (he’s 5’6” but plays like he’s 6ft+). Playing as tough of schedule as they did, FAU had no room to feature two players in their backcourt under 6 feet tall, and they’ve been successful with it, most notably on the defensive end. Their perimeter defense was one of the worst in the country last year if I remember correctly, and it’s improved drastically. They’ve slowed things down this year. They’ve focused on correcting the weaknesses rather than going forth upon the strengths, which is what many of these smaller teams do, just to get through the conference season. On the flip side, Troy lost pretty much everyone, welcomed at least 10 new transfers into the program, and with that, you expect the opposite of what occurred with Florida Atlantic. FAU brought in freshman recruits, they bought into Jarvis’ system, and they are playing much better in year #2 both as a team and on the defensive side of the ball. Troy, on the other hand, are the most in-experienced team in the Sun Belt with all the newcomers. They are playing a faster up and down game due to bringing in new faces and a lack of talent (the whole quantity over quality thing is in play). The defense has been awful. Mid-level last year and bottom of the pile this year. Maestri is known for his pressure and constant switching of defenses, and on the offensive side of the ball, taking care of the basketball and getting up the best shot possible. With all the newcomers, they’ve yet to find their identity. This was expected coming into the year and it has yet to change, and will not change within the coming years. This is a program that will be as inconsistent as any until they can bring in four year players that make a difference under the current system under Maestri. Taking into account the direction that both programs are heading, the single most important factor that the game will be focused on that I see doesn’t really rely with matchups, but it will rely on how well FAU will take care of the basketball.  And, as I have noted, FAU features a two-PG backcourt a majority of the time in Tucker and Taylor. They not only take care of the basketball, but they can score as well, and when you add Gantt in the mix, they can score from anywhere. When you have two point guards on the court against Troy’s constant pressure, you have an advantage. When you have two point guards on the court against the constant defensive switches Maestri will make, you have an advantage to realize and get in whatever set you need to. It’s a big advantage they’ll have in the Sun Belt all year long, not just tonight. FAU is a bit undersized, and that would normally make a difference in a bigger conference, but not in the Sun Belt. They have a pair of forwards who are 6’8” and I believe Royster was either up for consideration or was the defensive player of the year in the conference last year. Teams gameplan from going away from him in the paint, and Troy’s not built on doing so. Defense is the focus, and it’s the primary reason Taylor’s coming off the bench. The team is deep, has the better guards, and has the much better defense. These two teams split the home/away series last year. The game Troy won, they scored 86 points on 64% shooting and the 56 points they got from three seniors combined in that game are no longer accounted for. The game also features a emotion of sorts as Troy is coming off an OT loss at Mississippi State where it pretty much gave the game away, and they followed it up with a loss at Miami OH where they held a 9 point 2H lead late and gave it away. When you’re 1-7, you start being accustomed to the losing.  I’m not going to flirt with laying points on the road in a conference game. I’d rather put one unit on the ML than risk two units laying the points. Troy’s had a few days of prep, but this team needs more than a few days. I don’t put too much stock in the Siena loss b/c the conference season is what you prepare for. Slightly worried about road trip length, but not enough to keep me from betting it.

    Be back with non-conference…

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    DNP: None (YET)

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    12/15 Results: Pretty weird night of basketball w/ Greensboro hanging with Wake Forest (looks like they put too much focus on defense and it showed with their offense), and Santa Barbara beating UNLV. 

    Sides: 24-16, +11.60
    Totals: 10-7, +1.00
    DNP: 25-20


    12/16 Conference Notes: Get some conference action today for a change of pace. I like Florida Atlantic in the Sun Belt as I have them tabbed in the upper half at the #4 slot. On a side note, I have Troy in the bottom cellar spot. The two teams have played similarly tough strength of schedules and Florida Atlantic has a .500 record while Troy hasn’t won a game against a Division 1 opponent. When comparing conference opponents, I have to look at the makeup of both teams coming into the year and compare them to current status and results. Jarvis has turned around a program despite having veteran leadership. He took a team that was comprised of freshman last year and played to a .500 season. All of these freshman return, and as I have stated before, the most notable difference in a college athlete is the improvement from the freshman year to the sophomore year so much is expected of the team this year. Coming in to the year, I was expecting Florida Atlantic to be a more up-tempo style squad considering they were a well-balanced offense with much athleticism especially at the guard positions with Taylor and Gantt in the backcourt. What I failed to realize is that the biggest profit of the freshman to sophomore turn-over would be on the defensive end. I also failed to realize that Taylor wouldn’t be one of the starting five this year, primarily due to his lack of height (he’s 5’6” but plays like he’s 6ft+). Playing as tough of schedule as they did, FAU had no room to feature two players in their backcourt under 6 feet tall, and they’ve been successful with it, most notably on the defensive end. Their perimeter defense was one of the worst in the country last year if I remember correctly, and it’s improved drastically. They’ve slowed things down this year. They’ve focused on correcting the weaknesses rather than going forth upon the strengths, which is what many of these smaller teams do, just to get through the conference season. On the flip side, Troy lost pretty much everyone, welcomed at least 10 new transfers into the program, and with that, you expect the opposite of what occurred with Florida Atlantic. FAU brought in freshman recruits, they bought into Jarvis’ system, and they are playing much better in year #2 both as a team and on the defensive side of the ball. Troy, on the other hand, are the most in-experienced team in the Sun Belt with all the newcomers. They are playing a faster up and down game due to bringing in new faces and a lack of talent (the whole quantity over quality thing is in play). The defense has been awful. Mid-level last year and bottom of the pile this year. Maestri is known for his pressure and constant switching of defenses, and on the offensive side of the ball, taking care of the basketball and getting up the best shot possible. With all the newcomers, they’ve yet to find their identity. This was expected coming into the year and it has yet to change, and will not change within the coming years. This is a program that will be as inconsistent as any until they can bring in four year players that make a difference under the current system under Maestri. Taking into account the direction that both programs are heading, the single most important factor that the game will be focused on that I see doesn’t really rely with matchups, but it will rely on how well FAU will take care of the basketball.  And, as I have noted, FAU features a two-PG backcourt a majority of the time in Tucker and Taylor. They not only take care of the basketball, but they can score as well, and when you add Gantt in the mix, they can score from anywhere. When you have two point guards on the court against Troy’s constant pressure, you have an advantage. When you have two point guards on the court against the constant defensive switches Maestri will make, you have an advantage to realize and get in whatever set you need to. It’s a big advantage they’ll have in the Sun Belt all year long, not just tonight. FAU is a bit undersized, and that would normally make a difference in a bigger conference, but not in the Sun Belt. They have a pair of forwards who are 6’8” and I believe Royster was either up for consideration or was the defensive player of the year in the conference last year. Teams gameplan from going away from him in the paint, and Troy’s not built on doing so. Defense is the focus, and it’s the primary reason Taylor’s coming off the bench. The team is deep, has the better guards, and has the much better defense. These two teams split the home/away series last year. The game Troy won, they scored 86 points on 64% shooting and the 56 points they got from three seniors combined in that game are no longer accounted for. The game also features a emotion of sorts as Troy is coming off an OT loss at Mississippi State where it pretty much gave the game away, and they followed it up with a loss at Miami OH where they held a 9 point 2H lead late and gave it away. When you’re 1-7, you start being accustomed to the losing.  I’m not going to flirt with laying points on the road in a conference game. I’d rather put one unit on the ML than risk two units laying the points. Troy’s had a few days of prep, but this team needs more than a few days. I don’t put too much stock in the Siena loss b/c the conference season is what you prepare for. Slightly worried about road trip length, but not enough to keep me from betting it.

    Be back with non-conference…

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 12:53 PM ET #510

    Hey NRopp!

    Good analysis again. I was at FAU's game at Hofstra and they are a well coached and well disciplined team. The only problem I had was their execution in the final 4 minutes and their decision to slow the game down up 1 point late and using the 35 second shot which forced them to throw up some poor shot selections as the clock wound down. They have a very nice mixture of size and athleticism and are very comfortable playing a  half court game. They switch between zone and man to man and play a very good team defense and a disciplined type of game. They also have several quality shooters on the team. Like you, my only real concern is the length of this road trip but I saw them in person last year and this year, and this team has greatly matured and is a quality Sun Belt team.
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    Good analysis again. I was at FAU's game at Hofstra and they are a well coached and well disciplined team. The only problem I had was their execution in the final 4 minutes and their decision to slow the game down up 1 point late and using the 35 second shot which forced them to throw up some poor shot selections as the clock wound down. They have a very nice mixture of size and athleticism and are very comfortable playing a  half court game. They switch between zone and man to man and play a very good team defense and a disciplined type of game. They also have several quality shooters on the team. Like you, my only real concern is the length of this road trip but I saw them in person last year and this year, and this team has greatly matured and is a quality Sun Belt team.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 1:10 PM ET #511

    nropp - I believe you may know more about FAU than Jarvis 
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    12/16 Non-Conference Notes: Youngstown State’s wins have been far from impressive and they have yet to play a top 100 team. Their most recent roadtrip (against 189, 187, and 137) resulted in losses of 19, 15, and 30, and teams that are far lesser off than what NC State brings. Youngstown features a pretty good inside game with Eargle who was all-freshman in the SOCON last year. Interesting thing to note, is despite having that inside talent, those losses by 19 and 15 were to Wisconsin MKE and GB. NC State struggles to score at times, but they do have the size to combat Youngstown’s strength. Only other teams Youngstown will play out of the top 100 rest of the year is Butler and Cleveland State.  Youngstown likes to get up and down but they aren’t efficient, and this has the makings for their lowest point total of the year with a few things working against them. Mid-ACC versus Horizon cellar Youngstown (and I had Youngstown in the cellar even before Brogdon decided to leave). Youngstown played Pitt on the road last year tough, but Pitt was inexperienced early and coming off a tough loss to Texas. Arkansas LR returns nearly everyone from a team last year that went 8-7 at home but winless on both the road and neutral court games. In the conference notes for today, I noted the improvement from freshman to sophomore year being a notable difference for college kids. The bad thing for Arky LR here is that everyone returning who played key minutes are upperclassmen, and the peak for improvement has probably already hit its max. Not a single road victory last year and this year are 1-3 with those losses coming by 13, 26, and 34. Another thing to factor in is that they’re coming off a game that was pretty well emotionally involved with Ole Miss coming into their place. This could be a really flat spot for them. Have no interest backing Rice though aside from the fade on Arky LR. Rice has gone 0-16, 1-15 last two seasons in Conference USA and have statistically been one of the worst shooting teams in the country over those periods. They’ve played a somewhat tough SOS, so the verdict’s still out. Memphis defense should cause AP some problems and Memphis has had a good 9 days to prepare. No thoughts on Weber State/Tulsa. Too many unknowns and inconsistencies. Matchups are foggy. Weber State is used to playing three big men, Tulsa only plays two, so Tulsa has an extra advantage with quickness on the perimeter. Tulsa’s without it’s starting PG and they only have one other on the roster.  Weber State’s guard depth is in question with a few injuries. Just too many intangibles mixed in not worth my time. Neither  North Dakota State or UC Davis matchup well with each other. UC Davis will score from the guard spot as they have always done with Payne and Harden. North Dakota State will take every opportunity to get up and down as they always do, and they got a couple of nice scorers and much depth, plus they can score from any position. UC Davis has allowed quite a few 70’s here, and with NDSTU’s all-around scoring mentality, they should be able to try a reach at 80 in this game. The two teams played to a 125 total last year, but NDSTU didn’t score a FG in the first 6 minutes and fell behind 17-2 at the start. I don’t expect that to happen on their home court.  

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    12/16 Non-Conference Notes: Youngstown State’s wins have been far from impressive and they have yet to play a top 100 team. Their most recent roadtrip (against 189, 187, and 137) resulted in losses of 19, 15, and 30, and teams that are far lesser off than what NC State brings. Youngstown features a pretty good inside game with Eargle who was all-freshman in the SOCON last year. Interesting thing to note, is despite having that inside talent, those losses by 19 and 15 were to Wisconsin MKE and GB. NC State struggles to score at times, but they do have the size to combat Youngstown’s strength. Only other teams Youngstown will play out of the top 100 rest of the year is Butler and Cleveland State.  Youngstown likes to get up and down but they aren’t efficient, and this has the makings for their lowest point total of the year with a few things working against them. Mid-ACC versus Horizon cellar Youngstown (and I had Youngstown in the cellar even before Brogdon decided to leave). Youngstown played Pitt on the road last year tough, but Pitt was inexperienced early and coming off a tough loss to Texas. Arkansas LR returns nearly everyone from a team last year that went 8-7 at home but winless on both the road and neutral court games. In the conference notes for today, I noted the improvement from freshman to sophomore year being a notable difference for college kids. The bad thing for Arky LR here is that everyone returning who played key minutes are upperclassmen, and the peak for improvement has probably already hit its max. Not a single road victory last year and this year are 1-3 with those losses coming by 13, 26, and 34. Another thing to factor in is that they’re coming off a game that was pretty well emotionally involved with Ole Miss coming into their place. This could be a really flat spot for them. Have no interest backing Rice though aside from the fade on Arky LR. Rice has gone 0-16, 1-15 last two seasons in Conference USA and have statistically been one of the worst shooting teams in the country over those periods. They’ve played a somewhat tough SOS, so the verdict’s still out. Memphis defense should cause AP some problems and Memphis has had a good 9 days to prepare. No thoughts on Weber State/Tulsa. Too many unknowns and inconsistencies. Matchups are foggy. Weber State is used to playing three big men, Tulsa only plays two, so Tulsa has an extra advantage with quickness on the perimeter. Tulsa’s without it’s starting PG and they only have one other on the roster.  Weber State’s guard depth is in question with a few injuries. Just too many intangibles mixed in not worth my time. Neither  North Dakota State or UC Davis matchup well with each other. UC Davis will score from the guard spot as they have always done with Payne and Harden. North Dakota State will take every opportunity to get up and down as they always do, and they got a couple of nice scorers and much depth, plus they can score from any position. UC Davis has allowed quite a few 70’s here, and with NDSTU’s all-around scoring mentality, they should be able to try a reach at 80 in this game. The two teams played to a 125 total last year, but NDSTU didn’t score a FG in the first 6 minutes and fell behind 17-2 at the start. I don’t expect that to happen on their home court.  

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    Youngstown State/NC State Under 144.5 (1 Unit)
    UC Davis/North Dakota State Over 137.5 (1 Unit)

    DNP: North Dakota State -8.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:

    12/16 Non-Conference Notes: Youngstown State’s wins have been far from impressive and they have yet to play a top 100 team. Their most recent roadtrip (against 189, 187, and 137) resulted in losses of 19, 15, and 30, and teams that are far lesser off than what NC State brings. Youngstown features a pretty good inside game with Eargle who was all-freshman in the SOCON last year. Interesting thing to note, is despite having that inside talent, those losses by 19 and 15 were to Wisconsin MKE and GB. NC State struggles to score at times, but they do have the size to combat Youngstown’s strength. Only other teams Youngstown will play out of the top 100 rest of the year is Butler and Cleveland State.  Youngstown likes to get up and down but they aren’t efficient, and this has the makings for their lowest point total of the year with a few things working against them. Mid-ACC versus Horizon cellar Youngstown (and I had Youngstown in the cellar even before Brogdon decided to leave). Youngstown played Pitt on the road last year tough, but Pitt was inexperienced early and coming off a tough loss to Texas. Arkansas LR returns nearly everyone from a team last year that went 8-7 at home but winless on both the road and neutral court games. In the conference notes for today, I noted the improvement from freshman to sophomore year being a notable difference for college kids. The bad thing for Arky LR here is that everyone returning who played key minutes are upperclassmen, and the peak for improvement has probably already hit its max. Not a single road victory last year and this year are 1-3 with those losses coming by 13, 26, and 34. Another thing to factor in is that they’re coming off a game that was pretty well emotionally involved with Ole Miss coming into their place. This could be a really flat spot for them. Have no interest backing Rice though aside from the fade on Arky LR. Rice has gone 0-16, 1-15 last two seasons in Conference USA and have statistically been one of the worst shooting teams in the country over those periods. They’ve played a somewhat tough SOS, so the verdict’s still out. Memphis defense should cause AP some problems and Memphis has had a good 9 days to prepare. No thoughts on Weber State/Tulsa. Too many unknowns and inconsistencies. Matchups are foggy. Weber State is used to playing three big men, Tulsa only plays two, so Tulsa has an extra advantage with quickness on the perimeter. Tulsa’s without it’s starting PG and they only have one other on the roster.  Weber State’s guard depth is in question with a few injuries. Just too many intangibles mixed in not worth my time. Neither  North Dakota State or UC Davis matchup well with each other. UC Davis will score from the guard spot as they have always done with Payne and Harden. North Dakota State will take every opportunity to get up and down as they always do, and they got a couple of nice scorers and much depth, plus they can score from any position. UC Davis has allowed quite a few 70’s here, and with NDSTU’s all-around scoring mentality, they should be able to try a reach at 80 in this game. The two teams played to a 125 total last year, but NDSTU didn’t score a FG in the first 6 minutes and fell behind 17-2 at the start. I don’t expect that to happen on their home court.  

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    DNP: North Dakota State -8.5

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    Be careful with Youngstown St under bud, those two teams play pretty fast pace this year.  NC St playing faster than they ever have before with all their athletic frosh.  I have this one at 151.7, I'd reconsider and consider the over.  Just my two cents.

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    12/16 Non-Conference Notes: Youngstown State’s wins have been far from impressive and they have yet to play a top 100 team. Their most recent roadtrip (against 189, 187, and 137) resulted in losses of 19, 15, and 30, and teams that are far lesser off than what NC State brings. Youngstown features a pretty good inside game with Eargle who was all-freshman in the SOCON last year. Interesting thing to note, is despite having that inside talent, those losses by 19 and 15 were to Wisconsin MKE and GB. NC State struggles to score at times, but they do have the size to combat Youngstown’s strength. Only other teams Youngstown will play out of the top 100 rest of the year is Butler and Cleveland State.  Youngstown likes to get up and down but they aren’t efficient, and this has the makings for their lowest point total of the year with a few things working against them. Mid-ACC versus Horizon cellar Youngstown (and I had Youngstown in the cellar even before Brogdon decided to leave). Youngstown played Pitt on the road last year tough, but Pitt was inexperienced early and coming off a tough loss to Texas. Arkansas LR returns nearly everyone from a team last year that went 8-7 at home but winless on both the road and neutral court games. In the conference notes for today, I noted the improvement from freshman to sophomore year being a notable difference for college kids. The bad thing for Arky LR here is that everyone returning who played key minutes are upperclassmen, and the peak for improvement has probably already hit its max. Not a single road victory last year and this year are 1-3 with those losses coming by 13, 26, and 34. Another thing to factor in is that they’re coming off a game that was pretty well emotionally involved with Ole Miss coming into their place. This could be a really flat spot for them. Have no interest backing Rice though aside from the fade on Arky LR. Rice has gone 0-16, 1-15 last two seasons in Conference USA and have statistically been one of the worst shooting teams in the country over those periods. They’ve played a somewhat tough SOS, so the verdict’s still out. Memphis defense should cause AP some problems and Memphis has had a good 9 days to prepare. No thoughts on Weber State/Tulsa. Too many unknowns and inconsistencies. Matchups are foggy. Weber State is used to playing three big men, Tulsa only plays two, so Tulsa has an extra advantage with quickness on the perimeter. Tulsa’s without it’s starting PG and they only have one other on the roster.  Weber State’s guard depth is in question with a few injuries. Just too many intangibles mixed in not worth my time. Neither  North Dakota State or UC Davis matchup well with each other. UC Davis will score from the guard spot as they have always done with Payne and Harden. North Dakota State will take every opportunity to get up and down as they always do, and they got a couple of nice scorers and much depth, plus they can score from any position. UC Davis has allowed quite a few 70’s here, and with NDSTU’s all-around scoring mentality, they should be able to try a reach at 80 in this game. The two teams played to a 125 total last year, but NDSTU didn’t score a FG in the first 6 minutes and fell behind 17-2 at the start. I don’t expect that to happen on their home court.  

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    DNP: North Dakota State -8.5

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    Be careful with Youngstown St under bud, those two teams play pretty fast pace this year.  NC St playing faster than they ever have before with all their athletic frosh.  I have this one at 151.7, I'd reconsider and consider the over.  Just my two cents.

     
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