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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:08 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:


    So when I go up to the window and make a $25 bet, they look me over and mark me and my bet down as a public wager, and when the retard Floyd Mayweather makes his $10,000 bet it goes in the "Sharp" catgory, and then they call up covers and give them that completely subjective info?

    Lol...what in the world!?

    We're not saying thats how it works, but where do the numbers come from, are they just made up? The ones that reporters spit out, websites, espn, etc.? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:


    So when I go up to the window and make a $25 bet, they look me over and mark me and my bet down as a public wager, and when the retard Floyd Mayweather makes his $10,000 bet it goes in the "Sharp" catgory, and then they call up covers and give them that completely subjective info?

    Lol...what in the world!?

    We're not saying thats how it works, but where do the numbers come from, are they just made up? The ones that reporters spit out, websites, espn, etc.? 
     
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    Lol how old are you. A computer can easily categorize this kind of stuff. They don't have to call and report everything as computers can easily do that kinda stuff. Kinda how most businesses use M1 software that keeps track of incoming outgoing for almost every company that ships anything. Computers are pretty smart. I didn't have to call anything in every time I processed something. The computer catalogs it
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    Lol how old are you. A computer can easily categorize this kind of stuff. They don't have to call and report everything as computers can easily do that kinda stuff. Kinda how most businesses use M1 software that keeps track of incoming outgoing for almost every company that ships anything. Computers are pretty smart. I didn't have to call anything in every time I processed something. The computer catalogs it
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:16 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Lol how old are you. A computer can easily categorize this kind of stuff. They don't have to call and report everything as computers can easily do that kinda stuff. Kinda how most businesses use M1 software that keeps track of incoming outgoing for almost every company that ships anything. Computers are pretty smart. I didn't have to call anything in every time I processed something. The computer catalogs it

    Lol...Does the computer decide who the "public" and who's the "Sharp" using face recognition software or something?  And don't tell me the bigger bet is the smarter bet-

    "Public" and "Sharp" are irellevant/nonsense terms...Terms only used by people that like to think of themselves as "Sharps"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Lol how old are you. A computer can easily categorize this kind of stuff. They don't have to call and report everything as computers can easily do that kinda stuff. Kinda how most businesses use M1 software that keeps track of incoming outgoing for almost every company that ships anything. Computers are pretty smart. I didn't have to call anything in every time I processed something. The computer catalogs it

    Lol...Does the computer decide who the "public" and who's the "Sharp" using face recognition software or something?  And don't tell me the bigger bet is the smarter bet-

    "Public" and "Sharp" are irellevant/nonsense terms...Terms only used by people that like to think of themselves as "Sharps"


     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:20 PM ET #29

    I dont use the terminology or anything. I'm simply documenting a pattern ive noticed. You can hate on it before I have a chnace to document anything. But youre the kne who convinced me to stick with Duquesne, and I was leaning heavily against it because of this pattern. So before you hate on it. Just see how it does first. Why not give it a shot. Its not like I'm telling everyone to bet it. Or lay me for it. Its just something im looking into and thought kther people might be interested. Clearly you're not, so tgis method prolly isnt for you
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    I dont use the terminology or anything. I'm simply documenting a pattern ive noticed. You can hate on it before I have a chnace to document anything. But youre the kne who convinced me to stick with Duquesne, and I was leaning heavily against it because of this pattern. So before you hate on it. Just see how it does first. Why not give it a shot. Its not like I'm telling everyone to bet it. Or lay me for it. Its just something im looking into and thought kther people might be interested. Clearly you're not, so tgis method prolly isnt for you
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:35 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:


    Lol...Does the computer decide who the "public" and who's the "Sharp" using face recognition software or something?  And don't tell me the bigger bet is the smarter bet-

    "Public" and "Sharp" are irellevant/nonsense terms...Terms only used by people that like to think of themselves as "Sharps"

    I use an app called Sports Insights. It doesn't have sub categories of public and sharp money. It just shows what %be of wagers are going on what team and what the line is at that moment. I always look at what the lines open at the night before and if I notice a heavy drop on the favorite even though they're taking most of the wagers, that flags that game for me. Then I combine that, with who the obvious pick should be (perception), and match that up to record and if it fits all 3 categories, it has a higher percentage it hit. Even though Duquense opened at -4 taking 70% wagers (according to the app) why would it drop down 2 points? I doubt it was (sharp money) being bet on Richmond (record 6-13) going into the game playing Duq, a team playing well and at home (record 14 - 6 going into that game) Most bettors were probably thinking oh hell ya Duq can cover that. I don't even think or care about sharp money. I don't get this far into it, I'm just an action junkie and would like to crack the code, lol. Any angles help. I really believe there is ton's of psychology that goes behind what the line is set at. They set it in a way where they feel like they have a good idea where most of the wagers will go, but yet they already know which side will cover/win most of the time. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:


    Lol...Does the computer decide who the "public" and who's the "Sharp" using face recognition software or something?  And don't tell me the bigger bet is the smarter bet-

    "Public" and "Sharp" are irellevant/nonsense terms...Terms only used by people that like to think of themselves as "Sharps"

    I use an app called Sports Insights. It doesn't have sub categories of public and sharp money. It just shows what %be of wagers are going on what team and what the line is at that moment. I always look at what the lines open at the night before and if I notice a heavy drop on the favorite even though they're taking most of the wagers, that flags that game for me. Then I combine that, with who the obvious pick should be (perception), and match that up to record and if it fits all 3 categories, it has a higher percentage it hit. Even though Duquense opened at -4 taking 70% wagers (according to the app) why would it drop down 2 points? I doubt it was (sharp money) being bet on Richmond (record 6-13) going into the game playing Duq, a team playing well and at home (record 14 - 6 going into that game) Most bettors were probably thinking oh hell ya Duq can cover that. I don't even think or care about sharp money. I don't get this far into it, I'm just an action junkie and would like to crack the code, lol. Any angles help. I really believe there is ton's of psychology that goes behind what the line is set at. They set it in a way where they feel like they have a good idea where most of the wagers will go, but yet they already know which side will cover/win most of the time. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:40 PM ET #31

    Lol I have the same mindset Cmoult, Vegas isn't a multi billion dollar industry because it only collects juice. They know how to manipulate and deceive. Its not likely they can get away with itveveru game, so looking for games they might have more info on than us and why a line won't move when everyone is on it.
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    Lol I have the same mindset Cmoult, Vegas isn't a multi billion dollar industry because it only collects juice. They know how to manipulate and deceive. Its not likely they can get away with itveveru game, so looking for games they might have more info on than us and why a line won't move when everyone is on it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:42 PM ET #32

    wrong... Gambling is something dumb people do...Smart people don't bet 10k on a random sporting event. They sit on it or invest it in something else, so big bets are dumb bets in my opinion... And most bets are made illegally and Joey the street corner bookie isnt investing in software and reporting to anyone...ha ha ha


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    wrong... Gambling is something dumb people do...Smart people don't bet 10k on a random sporting event. They sit on it or invest it in something else, so big bets are dumb bets in my opinion... And most bets are made illegally and Joey the street corner bookie isnt investing in software and reporting to anyone...ha ha ha


     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:49 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Lol I have the same mindset Cmoult, Vegas isn't a multi billion dollar industry because it only collects juice. They know how to manipulate and deceive. Its not likely they can get away with itveveru game, so looking for games they might have more info on than us and why a line won't move when everyone is on it.

    Ha ha ha ha ha



    Take off the tin foil hat...They couldn't possibly pull off a conspiracy of the magnitude that you are talking about...They are the very last people to fix a game-  Why would they? They have a license to print money now...They get a cut of everything bet and all they gotta do is hold the money for a few hours..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Lol I have the same mindset Cmoult, Vegas isn't a multi billion dollar industry because it only collects juice. They know how to manipulate and deceive. Its not likely they can get away with itveveru game, so looking for games they might have more info on than us and why a line won't move when everyone is on it.

    Ha ha ha ha ha



    Take off the tin foil hat...They couldn't possibly pull off a conspiracy of the magnitude that you are talking about...They are the very last people to fix a game-  Why would they? They have a license to print money now...They get a cut of everything bet and all they gotta do is hold the money for a few hours..


     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:50 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Lol I have the same mindset Cmoult, Vegas isn't a multi billion dollar industry because it only collects juice. They know how to manipulate and deceive. Its not likely they can get away with itveveru game, so looking for games they might have more info on than us and why a line won't move when everyone is on it.

    Exactly. Even if they take a hit on a game or multiple games they're still winning in the long run, its crazy how much money is wagered on sports betting, I think i read last year just on MLB alone it said around 1 billion was wagered over the season across the world. I'm sure they have dedicated highly paid people, some of the best in the world (statisticians, psychologists, etc) that study and crunch the numbers better than we can and study our betting behaviors and set the line accordingly in their favor. Probably 100 billion or more across all sports every year. When you're dealing with that kind of money they have all the resources to fix games, plant data etc. (not saying all are, but you're delusional if you don't think any are)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Lol I have the same mindset Cmoult, Vegas isn't a multi billion dollar industry because it only collects juice. They know how to manipulate and deceive. Its not likely they can get away with itveveru game, so looking for games they might have more info on than us and why a line won't move when everyone is on it.

    Exactly. Even if they take a hit on a game or multiple games they're still winning in the long run, its crazy how much money is wagered on sports betting, I think i read last year just on MLB alone it said around 1 billion was wagered over the season across the world. I'm sure they have dedicated highly paid people, some of the best in the world (statisticians, psychologists, etc) that study and crunch the numbers better than we can and study our betting behaviors and set the line accordingly in their favor. Probably 100 billion or more across all sports every year. When you're dealing with that kind of money they have all the resources to fix games, plant data etc. (not saying all are, but you're delusional if you don't think any are)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:51 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:


    Ha ha ha ha ha



    Take off the tin foil hat...They couldn't possibly pull off a conspiracy of the magnitude that you are talking about...They are the very last people to fix a game-  Why would they? They have a license to print money now...They get a cut of everything bet and all they gotta do is hold the money for a few hours..



    Why would you settle to print nickles and pennies when you can print $100 bills in comparison?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:


    Ha ha ha ha ha



    Take off the tin foil hat...They couldn't possibly pull off a conspiracy of the magnitude that you are talking about...They are the very last people to fix a game-  Why would they? They have a license to print money now...They get a cut of everything bet and all they gotta do is hold the money for a few hours..



    Why would you settle to print nickles and pennies when you can print $100 bills in comparison?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 4:57 PM ET #36

    Lol I feel like no matter how well this does, el terrible is still going to hate on this method. So I'm done discussing that. Neither one if us are budging so its kinda pointless
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    Lol I feel like no matter how well this does, el terrible is still going to hate on this method. So I'm done discussing that. Neither one if us are budging so its kinda pointless
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:00 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Lol I feel like no matter how well this does, el terrible is still going to hate on this method. So I'm done discussing that. Neither one if us are budging so its kinda pointless
      

    Its as old as dirt- Youre playing the tote board..I stopped doing that in the late 70's... It assumes that people know more than you do, which is rarely the case my friend...Good luck though
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    Lol I feel like no matter how well this does, el terrible is still going to hate on this method. So I'm done discussing that. Neither one if us are budging so its kinda pointless
      

    Its as old as dirt- Youre playing the tote board..I stopped doing that in the late 70's... It assumes that people know more than you do, which is rarely the case my friend...Good luck though
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:08 PM ET #38

    Fellas, don't give Vegas that much credit. They make more profit on slots, video poker, table games, etc than in sports betting. 


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    Fellas, don't give Vegas that much credit. They make more profit on slots, video poker, table games, etc than in sports betting. 


     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:12 PM ET #39

    BOL on your system. 

    Dig through this site. There are some old threads with guys who looked at RLM. You may find some helpful info in them.. 
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    BOL on your system. 

    Dig through this site. There are some old threads with guys who looked at RLM. You may find some helpful info in them.. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:13 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:

      

    Its as old as dirt- Youre playing the tote board..I stopped doing that in the late 70's... It assumes that people know more than you do, which is rarely the case my friend...Good luck though

    I must say..It works wonders in Dog Racing though...I mean you see 18-1 morning line dogs going off at 4-5 and winning easily

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    Its as old as dirt- Youre playing the tote board..I stopped doing that in the late 70's... It assumes that people know more than you do, which is rarely the case my friend...Good luck though

    I must say..It works wonders in Dog Racing though...I mean you see 18-1 morning line dogs going off at 4-5 and winning easily

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:24 PM ET #41

    Can we see how this goes for a week or so before I get criticized. In not betting against every game where the public is heavily on one side. There are different factors I'm using. I'm not asking for money so Idk why I'm getting criticized before results are shown. Just cause you don't believe in what I'm saying. That's fair, but its just a theory I'm going to keep track of on here. I Didnt give you Abuncha garbage when you discredited my theory before and it costed me money. I kept it to myself until you cane back on my page doing the same thing. In not counting that as a win toward my record to inflate anything. In simply going off a pattern I've noticed and I wanna see how it goes, good luck to you guys who doubt and let's see how it goes for those who believe the same thing I do abt vegas
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    Can we see how this goes for a week or so before I get criticized. In not betting against every game where the public is heavily on one side. There are different factors I'm using. I'm not asking for money so Idk why I'm getting criticized before results are shown. Just cause you don't believe in what I'm saying. That's fair, but its just a theory I'm going to keep track of on here. I Didnt give you Abuncha garbage when you discredited my theory before and it costed me money. I kept it to myself until you cane back on my page doing the same thing. In not counting that as a win toward my record to inflate anything. In simply going off a pattern I've noticed and I wanna see how it goes, good luck to you guys who doubt and let's see how it goes for those who believe the same thing I do abt vegas
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:27 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Can we see how this goes for a week or so before I get criticized. In not betting against every game where the public is heavily on one side. There are different factors I'm using. I'm not asking for money so Idk why I'm getting criticized before results are shown. Just cause you don't believe in what I'm saying. That's fair, but its just a theory I'm going to keep track of on here. I Didnt give you Abuncha garbage when you discredited my theory before and it costed me money. I kept it to myself until you cane back on my page doing the same thing. In not counting that as a win toward my record to inflate anything. In simply going off a pattern I've noticed and I wanna see how it goes, good luck to you guys who doubt and let's see how it goes for those who believe the same thing I do abt vegas

    Yes..I'll ride with ya...Give me a winner
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    Can we see how this goes for a week or so before I get criticized. In not betting against every game where the public is heavily on one side. There are different factors I'm using. I'm not asking for money so Idk why I'm getting criticized before results are shown. Just cause you don't believe in what I'm saying. That's fair, but its just a theory I'm going to keep track of on here. I Didnt give you Abuncha garbage when you discredited my theory before and it costed me money. I kept it to myself until you cane back on my page doing the same thing. In not counting that as a win toward my record to inflate anything. In simply going off a pattern I've noticed and I wanna see how it goes, good luck to you guys who doubt and let's see how it goes for those who believe the same thing I do abt vegas

    Yes..I'll ride with ya...Give me a winner
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:28 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Tjtorok11:

    Can we see how this goes for a week or so before I get criticized. In not betting against every game where the public is heavily on one side. There are different factors I'm using. I'm not asking for money so Idk why I'm getting criticized before results are shown. Just cause you don't believe in what I'm saying. That's fair, but its just a theory I'm going to keep track of on here. I Didnt give you Abuncha garbage when you discredited my theory before and it costed me money. I kept it to myself until you cane back on my page doing the same thing. In not counting that as a win toward my record to inflate anything. In simply going off a pattern I've noticed and I wanna see how it goes, good luck to you guys who doubt and let's see how it goes for those who believe the same thing I do abt vegas

    I'm with you TJ, let's track it, post all thoughts and leans on this thread 
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    Can we see how this goes for a week or so before I get criticized. In not betting against every game where the public is heavily on one side. There are different factors I'm using. I'm not asking for money so Idk why I'm getting criticized before results are shown. Just cause you don't believe in what I'm saying. That's fair, but its just a theory I'm going to keep track of on here. I Didnt give you Abuncha garbage when you discredited my theory before and it costed me money. I kept it to myself until you cane back on my page doing the same thing. In not counting that as a win toward my record to inflate anything. In simply going off a pattern I've noticed and I wanna see how it goes, good luck to you guys who doubt and let's see how it goes for those who believe the same thing I do abt vegas

    I'm with you TJ, let's track it, post all thoughts and leans on this thread 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:29 PM ET #44

    Will do f
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:43 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by CMoult83:


    I'm with you TJ, let's track it, post all thoughts and leans on this thread 

    No thoughts or leans...I WANT WINNERS!

    I got a feeling he's gonna get 4 or 5 in a row before his system crash and burns
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    I'm with you TJ, let's track it, post all thoughts and leans on this thread 

    No thoughts or leans...I WANT WINNERS!

    I got a feeling he's gonna get 4 or 5 in a row before his system crash and burns
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:47 PM ET #46

    First one coming up is Buffalo at Ohio, at first glance the spread seems too low and too easy Buffalo, but they have been dominating conference play. Line opened at 7.5 and now down to 7 even though Buffalo is taking most wagers. Ohio got waxed at home against Toledo a few games back and Buffalo can put up points in a hurry even against a good defense. This can be one of the few exceptions teams that steadily continue to dominate like UL Lafayette. I usually don't like to guess when the trend will break so I don't think I'll play on this game. Thoughts?
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    First one coming up is Buffalo at Ohio, at first glance the spread seems too low and too easy Buffalo, but they have been dominating conference play. Line opened at 7.5 and now down to 7 even though Buffalo is taking most wagers. Ohio got waxed at home against Toledo a few games back and Buffalo can put up points in a hurry even against a good defense. This can be one of the few exceptions teams that steadily continue to dominate like UL Lafayette. I usually don't like to guess when the trend will break so I don't think I'll play on this game. Thoughts?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:48 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Terrible:


    No thoughts or leans...I WANT WINNERS!

    I got a feeling he's gonna get 4 or 5 in a row before his system crash and burns

    Lol can hit 4 or 5 in a row and then crash and burn no matter what system or strategy you use or if you even just make a blind guess. 
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    No thoughts or leans...I WANT WINNERS!

    I got a feeling he's gonna get 4 or 5 in a row before his system crash and burns

    Lol can hit 4 or 5 in a row and then crash and burn no matter what system or strategy you use or if you even just make a blind guess. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 5:53 PM ET #48

    In only gonna have 1 or 2 plays a day depending what I notice. Saturdays prolly more for obvious reasons of a much larger card. I really only seeing Seattle sticking out to me tonight. I usually like playing with over unders more. Been way more consistent. 
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    In only gonna have 1 or 2 plays a day depending what I notice. Saturdays prolly more for obvious reasons of a much larger card. I really only seeing Seattle sticking out to me tonight. I usually like playing with over unders more. Been way more consistent. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 6:01 PM ET #49

    My leans for CBB right now are Dartmouth, St. Peters, MSU, Oakland and over in that game, CSB and Harvard cover. NBA, I like over in Lakers, Brooklyn and under, over in Cleveland and over in Houston. 
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    My leans for CBB right now are Dartmouth, St. Peters, MSU, Oakland and over in that game, CSB and Harvard cover. NBA, I like over in Lakers, Brooklyn and under, over in Cleveland and over in Houston. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2018 - 6:03 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by CMoult83:

    My leans for CBB right now are Dartmouth, St. Peters, MSU, Oakland and over in that game, CSB and Harvard cover. NBA, I like over in Lakers, Brooklyn and under, over in Cleveland and over in Houston. 

    Playing Buffalo for the first game. 
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    My leans for CBB right now are Dartmouth, St. Peters, MSU, Oakland and over in that game, CSB and Harvard cover. NBA, I like over in Lakers, Brooklyn and under, over in Cleveland and over in Houston. 

    Playing Buffalo for the first game. 
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