STL +130 o9.0
TB -141 u9.0
LIVE Top 8th Aug 24
NYM 2 -130 o9.5
ATL 2 +120 u9.5
LIVE Top 8th Aug 24
WAS 0 +217 o10.0
PHI 3 -241 u10.0
LIVE Top 8th Aug 24
HOU 1 +117 o9.0
BAL 3 -126 u9.0
LIVE Bottom 7th Aug 24
TOR 3 -123 o7.5
MIA 4 +113 u7.5
LIVE Top 7th Aug 24
KC 10 +134 o8.0
DET 7 -146 u8.0
LIVE Top 5th Aug 24
MIN 0 -107 o9.0
CHW 7 -101 u9.0
LIVE Bottom 3rd Aug 24
SF 2 +120 o8.0
MIL 1 -130 u8.0
LIVE Bottom 4th Aug 24
CLE 0 +113 o7.5
TEX 0 -123 u7.5
CHC -130 o9.5
LAA +120 u9.5
ATH +158 o7.5
SEA -173 u7.5
LAD -107 o8.0
SD -101 u8.0
CIN +112 o9.0
AZ -121 u9.0
BOS +138 o8.5
NYY -150 u8.5
Final Aug 24
COL 0 +249 o7.5
PIT 4 -280 u7.5
San Francisco
New York

San Francisco @ New York Matchups, Results & Stats

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SF vs NYMRecords

Team Table
Team W/L H/A $ RF RA Tot O/U
SF 55-56 27-30 -733 4.08 4.08 8.16 51-56
NYM 63-48 38-17 -79 4.40 3.96 8.36 48-58

SF vs NYMHead To Head

Win / Loss
6-4
Over / Under
5-4-1
Head-To-Head
Date Home Result ML O/U SF Starter (IP) NYM Starter (IP)
Aug 02, '25 NYM 12 - 6 NYM -183 o8.5 K. Teng (3.1) K. Senga (4.0)
Aug 01, '25 NYM 4 - 3 SF +125 u8.0 R. Ray (7.0) D. Peterson (6.0)
Jul 27, '25 SF 5 - 3 NYM -117 P8.0 M. Gage (1.0) K. Senga (5.0)
Jul 26, '25 SF 2 - 1 NYM -103 u7.5 R. Ray (5.2) D. Peterson (6.0)
Jul 25, '25 SF 8 - 1 NYM +128 o7.5 L. Webb (4.0) C. Holmes (5.0)
May 26, '24 NYM 4 - 3 NYM -104 u8.0 L. Webb (7.0) S. Manaea (5.0)
May 25, '24 NYM 7 - 2 SF +131 o8.0 J. Hicks (5.0) L. Severino (7.0)
May 24, '24 NYM 8 - 7 SF +129 o8.0 K. Harrison (5.0) C. Scott (6.0)
Apr 24, '24 SF 8 - 2 NYM -107 o7.5 R. Walker (1.0) S. Manaea (4.2)
Apr 23, '24 SF 5 - 1 SF -127 u7.0 L. Webb (8.0) L. Severino (6.0)

San Francisco Record Last 10

Win / Loss
3-7-0
Over / Under
4-4-2
ML
-$330
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Aug 02, '25 @ NYM L 6 - 12 L +167 o8.5 K. Teng (3.1) K. Senga (4.0)
Aug 01, '25 @ NYM W 4 - 3 W +125 u8.0 R. Ray (7.0) D. Peterson (6.0)
Jul 30, '25 PIT L 1 - 2 L -198 u7.0 L. Webb (5.2) M. Burrows (6.0)
Jul 29, '25 PIT L 1 - 3 L -159 u8.0 J. Verlander (5.0) B. Falter (5.0)
Jul 28, '25 PIT L 5 - 6 L -129 o7.5 C. Whisenhunt (5.0) M. Keller (2.0)
Jul 27, '25 NYM L 3 - 5 L +109 P8.0 M. Gage (1.0) K. Senga (5.0)
Jul 26, '25 NYM L 1 - 2 L -105 u7.5 R. Ray (5.2) D. Peterson (6.0)
Jul 25, '25 NYM L 1 - 8 L -139 o7.5 L. Webb (4.0) C. Holmes (5.0)
Jul 23, '25 @ ATL W 9 - 3 W +139 o7.5 J. Verlander (5.0) S. Strider (5.0)
Jul 22, '25 @ ATL W 9 - 0 W +106 P9.0 L. Roupp (5.0) D. Daniel (5.0)

San Francisco Next 3 Games

Next 3 Games
Date vs Scheduled Starter Last vs ML O/U
Aug 24, '25 @ MIL R. Ray (L) W 7-1 W +117 o7.5
Aug 26, '25 CHC TBD W 3-1 W +149 u7.5
Aug 27, '25 CHC TBD W 3-1 W +149 u7.5

NY Mets Record Last 10

Win / Loss
6-4-0
Over / Under
3-5-2
ML
$91
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Aug 02, '25 SF W 12 - 6 W -183 o8.5 K. Senga (4.0) K. Teng (3.1)
Aug 01, '25 SF L 3 - 4 L -135 u8.0 D. Peterson (6.0) R. Ray (7.0)
Jul 30, '25 @ SD L 0 - 5 L +101 u8.5 C. Holmes (3.2) Y. Darvish (7.0)
Jul 29, '25 @ SD L 1 - 7 L -120 u8.5 S. Manaea (5.0) R. Bergert (4.0)
Jul 28, '25 @ SD L 6 - 7 L +115 o8.0 F. Montas Jr. (4.1) D. Cease (4.2)
Jul 27, '25 @ SF W 5 - 3 W -117 P8.0 K. Senga (5.0) M. Gage (1.0)
Jul 26, '25 @ SF W 2 - 1 W -103 u7.5 D. Peterson (6.0) R. Ray (5.2)
Jul 25, '25 @ SF W 8 - 1 W +128 o7.5 C. Holmes (5.0) L. Webb (4.0)
Jul 23, '25 LAA W 6 - 3 W -161 P9.0 S. Manaea (5.0) B. Burke (1.0)
Jul 22, '25 LAA W 3 - 2 W -156 u9.0 F. Montas Jr. (5.2) K. Hendricks (4.2)

NY Mets Next 3 Games

Next 3 Games
Date vs Scheduled Starter Last vs ML O/U
Aug 25, '25 PHI TBD L 1-7 L +106 u8.5
Aug 26, '25 PHI TBD L 1-7 L +106 u8.5
Aug 27, '25 PHI TBD L 1-7 L +106 u8.5

Series Stats

Series Game Records

San Francisco
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 16-20 7-12 9-8
Game 2 15-21 6-10 9-11
Game 3 20-14 10-5 10-9
Game 4 4-1 4-1 0-0
NY Mets
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 22-14 13-5 9-9
Game 2 20-16 13-9 7-7
Game 3 18-17 10-9 8-8
Game 4 3-1 2-1 1-0

Next 3 Series

San Francisco
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Mon, Aug 4 - Wed, Aug 6 @ PIT 47-64 31-25 H
Sat, Aug 9 - Sun, Aug 10 vs WAS 44-66 23-33 A
Tue, Aug 12 - Wed, Aug 13 vs SD 61-50 26-31 A
NY Mets
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Mon, Aug 4 - Wed, Aug 6 vs CLE 56-55 27-28 A
Sat, Aug 9 - Sun, Aug 10 @ MIL 66-44 36-20 H
Tue, Aug 12 - Thu, Aug 14 vs ATL 47-63 21-37 A

SF vs NYM Starters Recent Games

Win / Loss
0-1
ERA
7.20
Avg. IP
5.0
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Jul 28, '25 SF 5 - PIT 6
L -129 o7.5 5.0 5 4 4 3 2 1 85 17.0 2.0
Last 1 Avg. 5.0 5.0 4.0 4.0 3.0 2.0 1.0 85.0 17.0 2.0
Last Vs New York
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Carson Whisenhunt has not played against NYM Mets.
Win / Loss
3-2
ERA
6.57
Avg. IP
4.2
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Jul 28, '25 SD 7 - NYM 6
L +115 o8.0 4.1 8 5 5 3 2 1 83 19.2 1.0
Jul 22, '25 NYM 3 - LAA 2
W -156 u9.0 5.2 8 2 2 6 2 1 91 16.1 3.0
Jul 12, '25 KC 1 - NYM 3
W -118 u9.0 5.0 4 1 1 5 0 0 83 16.6 1.3
Jul 05, '25 NYM 12 - NYY 6
W +129 o9.5 5.2 5 4 4 2 0 2 77 13.6 2.0
Jun 29, '25 PIT 12 - NYM 1
L -134 o9.0 4.0 7 6 6 5 1 2 86 21.5 3.0
Last 5 Avg. 4.2 6.4 3.6 3.6 4.2 1.0 1.2 84.0 17.4 2.1
Last Vs San Francisco
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Sep 12, '24 SF 0 - MIL 3
W -130 u7.5 6.0 2 0 0 8 2 0 102 17.0 1.7
May 12, '24 SF 6 - CIN 5
L +105 o7.0 4.2 7 5 4 3 1 1 78 16.7 1.7
Aug 22, '21 ATH 1 - SF 2
L -110 u8.0 7.0 2 0 0 9 2 0 105 15.0 0.6
Last 3 Avg. 5.2 3.7 1.7 1.3 6.7 1.7 0.3 95.0 16.2 1.3

SF vs NYMStats

SF vs NYM Stats Analysis

All Pitchers
ERA AVG. OBP WHIP IP HR BB K
San Francisco 3.72 .243 .313 1.27 8.2 0.9 3.1 8.5
New York 3.61 .241 .320 1.31 8.2 0.9 3.6 8.5

More Stats

San Francisco Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Erik Miller (L) 31 36 30.0 24 5 5 0 16 22 1.50 1.33 32:14
Joey Lucchesi (L) 1 17 17.2 14 5 5 0 3 17 2.65 0.96 20:7
Last 3 1 0.1 2 2 2 0 1 0 0.00 9.00 0:1
Jose Butto (R) 1 35 47.2 43 21 19 2 22 41 3.64 1.36 52:24
Last 3 1 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.00 1.50 1:1
Randy Rodriguez (R) 1 45 46.0 29 8 6 3 10 63 1.17 0.85 29:25
Last 3 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 1.00 0:1
Ryan Walker (R) 1 48 44.2 36 23 20 3 12 43 4.09 1.07 53:22
Last 3 2 2.0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0.00 0.50 5:0
Matt Gage (L) 0 12 13.0 11 0 0 0 4 9 0.00 1.15 14:6
Last 3 2 2.1 3 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 1.71 3:1
Tristan Beck (R) 0 15 26.1 22 17 17 2 10 15 5.88 1.22 33:11
Last 3 2 3.1 4 5 5 0 2 1 15.00 1.80 6:3
Spencer Bivens (R) 0 37 54.1 56 32 29 5 17 43 4.83 1.34 66:28
Last 3 2 1.1 3 2 2 0 1 0 18.00 3.00 2:0
Bullpen Total 35 245 279.2 235 111 101 15 94 253 3.25 1.18 299:137
Last 3 11 11.0 12 10 9 0 8 3 7.36 1.82 17:7
Available Bullpen 31 36 30.0 24 5 5 0 16 22 1.50 1.33 32:14


NY Mets Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
A.J. Minter (L) 98 13 11.0 6 2 2 0 5 14 1.64 1.00 10:5
Last 3 2 0.2 1 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 3.00 1:0
Danny Young (L) 98 10 8.1 9 5 4 0 3 13 4.50 1.44 9:1
Max Kranick (R) 49 24 37.0 34 15 15 5 5 25 3.65 1.05 34:27
Last 3 1 2.0 2 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 1.50 1:2
Dedniel Nunez (R) 31 10 9.2 6 5 5 1 6 11 5.00 1.24 4:6
Last 3 2 1.2 3 2 2 1 0 3 18.00 1.80 1:1
Brandon Waddell (L) 15 10 27.0 26 12 12 4 9 18 4.00 1.30 29:23
Last 3 1 3.2 4 2 2 0 3 2 6.00 1.91 4:1
Huascar Brazoban (R) 8 43 51.0 37 24 21 5 24 51 3.71 1.20 45:28
Last 3 1 1.0 2 0 0 0 0 1 0.00 2.00 0:0
Jose Butto (R) 6 33 45.1 38 16 14 2 19 40 2.80 1.26 49:23
Last 3 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 1:1
Ryne Stanek (R) 1 44 38.2 37 22 17 3 19 42 4.03 1.45 21:28
Last 3 2 2.0 2 1 1 0 1 3 4.50 1.50 2:1
Edwin Diaz (R) 1 43 43.2 23 9 7 2 17 65 1.47 0.92 30:16
Last 3 1 1.0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0.00 2.00 1:0
Ryan Helsley (R) 1 37 37.0 38 12 12 4 12 44 2.92 1.35 31:18
Last 3 1 1.0 2 0 0 0 0 3 0.00 2.00 0:0
Reed Garrett (R) 0 46 44.2 32 16 13 2 20 51 2.66 1.16 39:23
Last 3 2 2.2 0 0 0 0 1 3 0.00 0.38 3:1
Rico Garcia (R) 0 9 15.1 10 6 6 2 4 18 3.60 0.91 14:5
Last 3 3 3.0 4 3 3 1 1 4 9.00 1.67 1:2
Gregory Soto (L) 0 48 38.2 32 18 16 2 17 48 3.79 1.27 38:19
Last 3 1 0.2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0.00 1.50 0:0
Tyler Rogers (R) 0 54 51.0 40 11 10 3 4 38 1.76 0.86 74:19
Last 3 1 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.00 1:2
Brooks Raley (L) 0 6 5.1 3 0 0 0 3 3 0.00 1.13 5:4
Last 3 2 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.00 1.00 4:0
Bullpen Total 308 430 463.2 371 173 154 35 167 481 2.99 1.16 432:245
Last 3 21 23.1 24 9 8 2 10 25 3.09 1.46 20:11
Available Bullpen 305 143 189.1 156 79 73 17 71 172 3.47 1.20 180:113
San Francisco All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Landen Roupp (R) 11 20 101.1 103 45 35 8 41 95 3.12 1.42 104:58
Carson Seymour (R) 5 4 9.0 12 6 4 4 3 9 4.00 1.67 11:3
Justin Verlander (R) 4 18 89.1 99 50 45 11 34 77 4.55 1.49 67:71
Logan Webb (R) 3 23 141.1 143 56 52 10 34 155 3.32 1.25 162:48
Robbie Ray (L) 1 23 136.0 99 46 43 16 53 140 2.85 1.12 111:92
Kai-Wei Teng (R) 0 1 3.1 4 5 5 1 3 4 15.00 2.10 2:3


NY Mets All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Tylor Megill (R) 49 14 68.1 60 37 30 6 33 89 3.97 1.36 48:31
Griffin Canning (R) 37 16 76.1 70 35 32 8 35 70 3.79 1.38 84:40
Paul Blackburn (R) 35 6 18.2 30 17 16 2 7 15 8.00 1.98 17:13
Sean Manaea (L) 4 4 17.1 11 4 4 2 4 22 2.12 0.87 14:10
Clay Holmes (R) 3 22 117.1 109 50 45 12 46 91 3.46 1.32 155:42
David Peterson (L) 1 21 127.0 114 45 40 7 42 105 2.83 1.23 152:46
Kodai Senga (R) 0 17 89.2 68 26 23 8 44 86 2.33 1.25 93:50
Umpire G W-L AVG PIT STR B STR% STR BB K/BB HR O/U
Jansen Visconti 21 12-9 8.05 283.10 180.67 102.43 63.8 14.9 6.0 2.50 2.10 7-12


Last 10 Games
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
Jul 29, 2025 CIN 4 - LAD 5 L +135 P 9.0 Tyler Glasnow (R) Nick Lodolo (L)
Jul 20, 2025 PIT 2 - CHW 7 L -142 U 9.5 Aaron Civale (R) Andrew Heaney (L)
Jul 13, 2025 CIN 4 - COL 2 W -224 U 9.5 Austin Gomber (L) Nick Martinez (R)
Jul 10, 2025 BAL 3 - NYM 1 W +124 U 9.5 David Peterson (L) Charlie Morton (R)
Jun 22, 2025 NYY 4 - BAL 2 W -208 U 10.5 Dean Kremer (R) Will Warren (R)
Jun 18, 2025 TEX 3 - KC 6 L +121 O 8.0 Kris Bubic (L) Patrick Corbin (L)
Jun 13, 2025 AZ 5 - SD 1 W -130 U 9.5 Stephen Kolek (R) Ryne Nelson (R)
Jun 8, 2025 SF 4 - ATL 3 W +118 U 7.5 Spencer Strider (R) Landen Roupp (R)
Jun 4, 2025 LAD 1 - NYM 6 L -142 U 10.0 Griffin Canning (R) Tony Gonsolin (R)
May 31, 2025 SD 0 - PIT 5 L -205 U 7.5 Bailey Falter (L) Dylan Cease (R)


Vs Giants
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
Jun 8, 2025 SF 4 - ATL 3 W +118 U 7.5 Spencer Strider (R) Landen Roupp (R)


Vs Mets
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
Jul 10, 2025 BAL 3 - NYM 1 W +124 U 9.5 David Peterson (L) Charlie Morton (R)
Jun 4, 2025 LAD 1 - NYM 6 L -142 U 10.0 Griffin Canning (R) Tony Gonsolin (R)
Mar 29, 2025 HOU 2 - NYM 1 W -115 U 9.0 Griffin Canning (R) Spencer Arrighetti (R)


Vs Carson Whisenhunt (L)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter


Vs Frankie Montas Jr. (R)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter

SF vs NYMInjury report

San Francisco's Injuries

Player POS Status Date Note
L. Roupp SP Fifteen Day IL - Knee( Aug 21, '25) Aug 21, '25
The San Francisco Giants placed RHP Landen Roupp on the 15-day injured list due to a left knee inflammation.
E. Miller RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Aug 20, '25) Aug 20, '25
The San Francisco Giants transferred LHP Erik Miller from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list with a left elbow sprain.
J. Encarnacion RF Ten Day IL - Hamstring( Aug 07, '25) Aug 07, '25
The San Francisco Giants placed OF Jerar Encarnación on the 10-day injured list with a right hamstring strain.
T. Murphy C Sixty Day IL - Back( Mar 25, '25) Mar 25, '25
The San Francisco Giants placed C Tom Murphy on the 60-day injured list due to mid-back disc herniation.

San Francisco Starters Last Game

(* - Change In Order)

New York's Injuries

Player POS Status Date Note
B. Nimmo LF Day To Day - Neck( Aug 23, '25) Aug 23, '25
Nimmo is not in the starting lineup for Sunday's (Aug. 24) game against Atlanta.
F. Montas Jr. SP Fifteen Day IL - Elbow( Aug 22, '25) Aug 22, '25
The New York Mets placed RHP Frankie Montas on the 15-day injured list with a right elbow UCL injury.
F. Alvarez C Ten Day IL - Thumb( Aug 18, '25) Aug 18, '25
The New York Mets placed C Francisco Alvarez on the 10-day injured list with a right thumb UCL sprain.
J. Winker LF Sixty Day IL - Back( Jul 30, '25) Jul 30, '25
The New York Mets placed OF Jesse Winker to the 60-day injured list with back inflammation.
M. Kranick RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Jul 24, '25) Jul 24, '25
The New York Mets placed RHP Max Kranick on the 60-day injured list with a right elbow strain.
D. Nunez RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Jul 20, '25) Jul 20, '25
The New York Mets transferred RHP Dedniel Núñez from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list due to his right elbow.
T. Megill SP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Jul 07, '25) Jul 07, '25
The New York Mets transferred RHP Tylor Megill from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list due to elbow inflammation.
G. Canning SP Sixty Day IL - Achilles( Jun 26, '25) Jun 26, '25
The New York Mets placed RHP Griffin Canning on the 60-day injured list with a ruptured achilles.
J. Siri CF Sixty Day IL - Shin( Jun 22, '25) Jun 22, '25
The New York Mets transferred OF Jose Siri from the 10-day injured list to the 60-day injured list due to a left tibia fracture.
D. Young RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( May 03, '25) May 03, '25
The New York Mets transferred LHP Danny Young from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list due to a left elbow sprain.
A. Minter RP Sixty Day IL - Lat( Apr 30, '25) Apr 30, '25
The New York Mets transferred LHP A.J. Minter from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list due to a left lat strain.
C. Scott SP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Feb 25, '25) Feb 25, '25
The New York Mets placed RHP Christian Scott on the 60-day injured list as he recovers from UCL sprain.
N. Madrigal 3B Sixty Day IL - Shoulder( Feb 23, '25) Feb 23, '25
The New York Mets placed INF Nick Madrigal on the 60-day injured list. Madrigal will likely miss the entire season as he recovers from fractured left shoulder.
D. Smith RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Feb 12, '25) Feb 12, '25
The New York Mets placed RHP Drew Smith on the 60-day injured list as he recovers from torn achilles tendon.

New York Starters Last Game

(* - Change In Order)

Betting Terminology

  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds
  • O/U: Closing total and odds
  • IP: Innings pitched by the starter
  • H: Hits allowed by the starter
  • R: Runs allowed by the starter
  • ER: Earned runs allowed by the starter
  • SO: Strikeouts thrown by the starter
  • BB: Walks allowed by the starter
  • HR: Home runs allowed by the starter
  • PIT: Total pitches thrown by the starter
  • P/IP: Pitches thrown per inning by the starter
  • GB:FB: Groundball - flyball ratio by the starter

Betting Terminology

  • W/L: Win-loss record (last 10)
  • Net $: $ won/lost based on $100 bets (last 10)
  • O/U: Over under record (last 10)
  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds for the game
  • O/U: Closing total and odds for the game
  • Away/Home Starter: Starting pitchers for the game
  • Last vs: The result last time the teams played
  • Schedule Starter: Expected starter for the upcoming game

Betting Terminology

Records below refer to the game # of all series across the season. Game 1, game 2 etc.

  • Overall: Team’s season record
  • After Win: Team’s record for the game immediately after a win
  • After Loss: Team’s record for the game immediately after a loss

Betting Terminology

  • Runs/9: Runs per nine innings
  • AVG: Batting average
  • Hits: Average hits per game
  • HR: Average home runs per game
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) per game
  • EB Hits: Average extra base hits per game
  • SB: Average stolen bases per game
  • OBP: On base percentage
  • R: Runs allowed
  • ER: Earned runs allowed
  • AVG: Batting average allowed
  • HR: Average home runs allowed
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) allowed
  • IP(S): Average innings pitched by starters
  • K(S): Average strikeouts by starters
  • K(B): Average strikeouts by bullpen
  • Rest(B): % of relievers that are available to pitch today
  • RF: Average team runs for. The run support pitchers are getting

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