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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 8:47 PM ET #1

Ok I'm going to use the kelly criterion for at least a year using 57% winners and see where it takes me.  For people who don't understand kelly Criterion this will roughly be 10% of my bankroll and one bet at a time.  I understand I am probably overestimating my win % but the plays will be few and taking from myself and other handicappers.  Basically they are going to be spot plays.  Anyone is welcome to follow.  Im basically doing this  to prove to myself what I can accomplish or anyone that is willing to learn with me.

Starting Bankroll $2,000  I will be using one book which will be Bookmaker.  I know I wont get all the lines I want and I also know ill have my critics.  Time will only prove where this thread will go.  Historically I know exactly where but I will be very selective and will try and make the best with my investment.  Im not asking for any help or any suggestions this is how it is and if I fail its on me.  Go Blue!!!  I will post my plays at least 30 minutes prior to gametime. 

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Ok I'm going to use the kelly criterion for at least a year using 57% winners and see where it takes me.  For people who don't understand kelly Criterion this will roughly be 10% of my bankroll and one bet at a time.  I understand I am probably overestimating my win % but the plays will be few and taking from myself and other handicappers.  Basically they are going to be spot plays.  Anyone is welcome to follow.  Im basically doing this  to prove to myself what I can accomplish or anyone that is willing to learn with me.

Starting Bankroll $2,000  I will be using one book which will be Bookmaker.  I know I wont get all the lines I want and I also know ill have my critics.  Time will only prove where this thread will go.  Historically I know exactly where but I will be very selective and will try and make the best with my investment.  Im not asking for any help or any suggestions this is how it is and if I fail its on me.  Go Blue!!!  I will post my plays at least 30 minutes prior to gametime. 

 
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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 8:54 PM ET #2

Play one

Under 66.5 Boise State Fresno State

Risking 194.00 to win 176.36

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Under 66.5 Boise State Fresno State

Risking 194.00 to win 176.36

 
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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 10:12 PM ET #3

easier said than done...will check back though.
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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 10:12 PM ET #4

Good Start - Cold weather leads to low scores

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 10:29 PM ET #5

I absolutely agree not an easy thing to do but then again what is in this business.  Its a HUGE challenge and and with the kelly will have a lot of ups and downs.  The hardest part is going to be the mental part.  Hopefully this under comes through good luck gentlemen!!!

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I absolutely agree not an easy thing to do but then again what is in this business.  Its a HUGE challenge and and with the kelly will have a lot of ups and downs.  The hardest part is going to be the mental part.  Hopefully this under comes through good luck gentlemen!!!

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easier said than done...will check back though.

 
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 12:49 AM ET #6

1-0

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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 2:09 AM ET #7

Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

Ok I'm going to use the kelly criterion for at least a year using 57% winners and see where it takes me.  For people who don't understand kelly Criterion this will roughly be 10% of my bankroll and one bet at a time.

Rule #1: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..

Rule #2: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..


Kelly Criterion is not for the average amateur.. You might want to look up exactly how to set up the Kelly before attempting such an effort..

How do you know you will hit 57% winners?

You are going to run this thread for 1 year..?? Well, all the power to you, would love to see it.. but you need to understand what exactly you're betting first..

Over/Under -- 3 weeks  +144/-156

Cheers..

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Ok I'm going to use the kelly criterion for at least a year using 57% winners and see where it takes me.  For people who don't understand kelly Criterion this will roughly be 10% of my bankroll and one bet at a time.

Rule #1: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..

Rule #2: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..


Kelly Criterion is not for the average amateur.. You might want to look up exactly how to set up the Kelly before attempting such an effort..

How do you know you will hit 57% winners?

You are going to run this thread for 1 year..?? Well, all the power to you, would love to see it.. but you need to understand what exactly you're betting first..

Over/Under -- 3 weeks  +144/-156

Cheers..

 
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 2:11 AM ET #8

Please do better than your current Covers Survivor Picks..

Nice win tonight after an 0-7 start..   
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 7:49 AM ET #9

run with the money you won lastnite...lol...or you can fade your picks i find that very profitable for me....i can pick winners but the loosers always come back to haunt me so im working with a couple systems that i fade...especially in college hoops..so far so good....not a crime to fade your self,its the money that matters goodluck...
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run with the money you won lastnite...lol...or you can fade your picks i find that very profitable for me....i can pick winners but the loosers always come back to haunt me so im working with a couple systems that i fade...especially in college hoops..so far so good....not a crime to fade your self,its the money that matters goodluck...
 
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 9:02 AM ET #10

Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:

Please do better than your current Covers Survivor Picks..

Nice win tonight after an 0-7 start..   

Survivor pick lol.  Are you serious. thanks Kreatture.  Good Luck and like I said I know that if I dont hit  57% my bankroll will be depleted.  I do know what the kelly is and want to thank you for your support.  GO BLUE!!!

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Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:

Please do better than your current Covers Survivor Picks..

Nice win tonight after an 0-7 start..   

Survivor pick lol.  Are you serious. thanks Kreatture.  Good Luck and like I said I know that if I dont hit  57% my bankroll will be depleted.  I do know what the kelly is and want to thank you for your support.  GO BLUE!!!

 
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 9:07 AM ET #11

[Quote: Originally Posted by 

Kreatture 1-7 survivor lol now it would be 2-7 haha 

Rule #1: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..

Rule #2: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..


Kelly Criterion is not for the average amateur.. You might want to look up exactly how to set up the Kelly before attempting such an effort..

How do you know you will hit 57% winners?

You are going to run this thread for 1 year..?? Well, all the power to you, would love to see it.. but you need to understand what exactly you're betting first..

Over/Under -- 3 weeks  +144/-156

Cheers..

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[Quote: Originally Posted by 

Kreatture 1-7 survivor lol now it would be 2-7 haha 

Rule #1: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..

Rule #2: Thread Moderator should understand his own rules..


Kelly Criterion is not for the average amateur.. You might want to look up exactly how to set up the Kelly before attempting such an effort..

How do you know you will hit 57% winners?

You are going to run this thread for 1 year..?? Well, all the power to you, would love to see it.. but you need to understand what exactly you're betting first..

Over/Under -- 3 weeks  +144/-156

Cheers..

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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 9:31 AM ET #12

Miami +1.5

211.11 to win 192.19

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211.11 to win 192.19

 
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 6:37 PM ET #13

1-1 current bankroll

1964.89

Arkansas -3.5

Risking 190.59

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1964.89

Arkansas -3.5

Risking 190.59

 
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 10:49 PM ET #14

2-1

Bankroll $2,130.62

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2-1

Bankroll $2,130.62

 
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Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 11:06 PM ET #15

Risking $206.67 On ?  waiting till morning

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Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 10:54 AM ET #16

Two team teaser

Pitt -1.5 and New England +2

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Pitt -1.5 and New England +2

 
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Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 7:14 PM ET #17

3-1

Under 66.5 Boise State Fresno State WINNER

Miami +1.5 LOSER

ARKANSAS -3.5 WINNER

PITT -1.5 TEASER NEW ENGLAND +2  WINNER

BANKROLL Total  2318.50

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Under 66.5 Boise State Fresno State WINNER

Miami +1.5 LOSER

ARKANSAS -3.5 WINNER

PITT -1.5 TEASER NEW ENGLAND +2  WINNER

BANKROLL Total  2318.50

 
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run!
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Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 8:57 PM ET #19

I just did 5 miles!!! Thanks for looking after my health. 

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run!

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Isnt kelly criterion a rape victim in the betting and gaming industry?
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Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 9:10 PM ET #22

She is and she is my girlfriend!  So I got a step ahead of everyone!!!
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Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 7:44 PM ET #23

New Mexico State +10

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Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:06 PM ET #24

3-2

Under 66.5 Boise State Fresno State WINNER

Miami +1.5 LOSER

ARKANSAS -3.5 WINNER

PITT -1.5 TEASER NEW ENGLAND +2  WINNER

New Mexico State +10 Loser

BANKROLL Total 2093.11 60%

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Under 66.5 Boise State Fresno State WINNER

Miami +1.5 LOSER

ARKANSAS -3.5 WINNER

PITT -1.5 TEASER NEW ENGLAND +2  WINNER

New Mexico State +10 Loser

BANKROLL Total 2093.11 60%

 
 
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Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:53 PM ET #25

I plan on changing my win percentage to 55% percent based  on the fact I will be playing  more games than anticipated.  If anyone  is following I just wanted to get that out their if someone wonders why my bets have dropped.  I know I just started this  thread but I got a much greater chance to stick around longer with 55% rather than 57%  LOL.  Im no pro but I do know how to manage my money.  I also feel at least in the short term 55% is pretty attainable.  Anyway.  My Wolverines are playing the Buckeyes this weekend and I expect a thumbing for year number 7 SICK SICK SICK. 
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I plan on changing my win percentage to 55% percent based  on the fact I will be playing  more games than anticipated.  If anyone  is following I just wanted to get that out their if someone wonders why my bets have dropped.  I know I just started this  thread but I got a much greater chance to stick around longer with 55% rather than 57%  LOL.  Im no pro but I do know how to manage my money.  I also feel at least in the short term 55% is pretty attainable.  Anyway.  My Wolverines are playing the Buckeyes this weekend and I expect a thumbing for year number 7 SICK SICK SICK. 
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