BTW matt we also should consider the original spread and current half time spread when thinking totals- this was part of what I said earlier in the month- I picked the under 2h last night under 95 on clips game because although the line would be better served by picking the over to get closer to the original total there was also a 10 pt. spread at half time to go with the 10pt spread in the game- if the clips were to cover that means they would have to keep the 76ers down in scoring. Also a large spread meanings losing team would try to catch up and make up for it (like the Heat did) the thing is that does not work all the time- same scenario on Monday with LA Lakers started shooting 3s to try and catch up and it was over from there. I did not play the 2H wizards game but did add it to my book of things to learn from. As you know I also had the 2h on okc which i lost but only due to overtime- I don't think that we can predict over time and thus I still consider it a win on the theory. Same thing for me picking -1 OKC second half because the spread was PK at the start of the game and 1.5 before that means that if they are down by 6 at the half a -1 is the correct odds bet because the game was expected to be close. sure there will be blowouts but one has to work on the norm not the long shot.
BTW matt we also should consider the original spread and current half time spread when thinking totals- this was part of what I said earlier in the month- I picked the under 2h last night under 95 on clips game because although the line would be better served by picking the over to get closer to the original total there was also a 10 pt. spread at half time to go with the 10pt spread in the game- if the clips were to cover that means they would have to keep the 76ers down in scoring. Also a large spread meanings losing team would try to catch up and make up for it (like the Heat did) the thing is that does not work all the time- same scenario on Monday with LA Lakers started shooting 3s to try and catch up and it was over from there. I did not play the 2H wizards game but did add it to my book of things to learn from. As you know I also had the 2h on okc which i lost but only due to overtime- I don't think that we can predict over time and thus I still consider it a win on the theory. Same thing for me picking -1 OKC second half because the spread was PK at the start of the game and 1.5 before that means that if they are down by 6 at the half a -1 is the correct odds bet because the game was expected to be close. sure there will be blowouts but one has to work on the norm not the long shot.
BTW matt we also should consider the original spread and current half time spread when thinking totals- this was part of what I said earlier in the month- I picked the under 2h last night under 95 on clips game because although the line would be better served by picking the over to get closer to the original total there was also a 10 pt. spread at half time to go with the 10pt spread in the game- if the clips were to cover that means they would have to keep the 76ers down in scoring. Also a large spread meanings losing team would try to catch up and make up for it (like the Heat did) the thing is that does not work all the time- same scenario on Monday with LA Lakers started shooting 3s to try and catch up and it was over from there. I did not play the 2H wizards game but did add it to my book of things to learn from. As you know I also had the 2h on okc which i lost but only due to overtime- I don't think that we can predict over time and thus I still consider it a win on the theory. Same thing for me picking -1 OKC second half because the spread was PK at the start of the game and 1.5 before that means that if they are down by 6 at the half a -1 is the correct odds bet because the game was expected to be close. sure there will be blowouts but one has to work on the norm not the long shot.
Lol, I did play the Wizards Under for a lot of the reason you just stated. Not included in the contest, I had small plays on the Wizards and the Under. So half of my thought process was on track. I thought the Wiz having big lead like the Clippers meant the exact same thing to that game. I guess the only difference is the Clippers were supposed to be leading by that much!
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
BTW matt we also should consider the original spread and current half time spread when thinking totals- this was part of what I said earlier in the month- I picked the under 2h last night under 95 on clips game because although the line would be better served by picking the over to get closer to the original total there was also a 10 pt. spread at half time to go with the 10pt spread in the game- if the clips were to cover that means they would have to keep the 76ers down in scoring. Also a large spread meanings losing team would try to catch up and make up for it (like the Heat did) the thing is that does not work all the time- same scenario on Monday with LA Lakers started shooting 3s to try and catch up and it was over from there. I did not play the 2H wizards game but did add it to my book of things to learn from. As you know I also had the 2h on okc which i lost but only due to overtime- I don't think that we can predict over time and thus I still consider it a win on the theory. Same thing for me picking -1 OKC second half because the spread was PK at the start of the game and 1.5 before that means that if they are down by 6 at the half a -1 is the correct odds bet because the game was expected to be close. sure there will be blowouts but one has to work on the norm not the long shot.
Lol, I did play the Wizards Under for a lot of the reason you just stated. Not included in the contest, I had small plays on the Wizards and the Under. So half of my thought process was on track. I thought the Wiz having big lead like the Clippers meant the exact same thing to that game. I guess the only difference is the Clippers were supposed to be leading by that much!
Guys i need an expert opinion. i bet por with a points of +4 against chi. kindly reply your thoughts please. very need it badly. thank you. i know this thread would help me alot!
Guys i need an expert opinion. i bet por with a points of +4 against chi. kindly reply your thoughts please. very need it badly. thank you. i know this thread would help me alot!
Lol, I did play the Wizards Under for a lot of the reason you just stated. Not included in the contest, I had small plays on the Wizards and the Under. So half of my thought process was on track. I thought the Wiz having big lead like the Clippers meant the exact same thing to that game. I guess the only difference is the Clippers were supposed to be leading by that much!
and one could say that is partially responsible for why the 2h of that game was much closer than that of the wizards game.
Quote Originally Posted by Musicmatt1:
Lol, I did play the Wizards Under for a lot of the reason you just stated. Not included in the contest, I had small plays on the Wizards and the Under. So half of my thought process was on track. I thought the Wiz having big lead like the Clippers meant the exact same thing to that game. I guess the only difference is the Clippers were supposed to be leading by that much!
and one could say that is partially responsible for why the 2h of that game was much closer than that of the wizards game.
Guys i need an expert opinion. i bet por with a points of +4 against chi. kindly reply your thoughts please. very need it badly. thank you. i know this thread would help me alot!
why did you pick what you picked? lets start there.
Quote Originally Posted by jurisairam:
Guys i need an expert opinion. i bet por with a points of +4 against chi. kindly reply your thoughts please. very need it badly. thank you. i know this thread would help me alot!
why did you pick what you picked? lets start there.
Just my thoughts. I've seen 20 times others been told to post reasoning. Asking all then to at least give one solid sentence from your brain "why" your thinking your pic Is good. Too many trends to list isn't a thought from the brain. That's simply an excuse of being lazy and not trying to contribute like all those that do give their effort and brainwave thought. I'm just asking to see actual reasoning :)
As much as I understand you - you need to lay off the guy a bit. He doesn't owe anything and you're not a thread mode. If Mavin will feel Phixer is not doing his job and wouldn't wanna post his pick - he'll do it.
I've seen him doing that before here when needed.
Don't forget - Mavin is the guy who deals with all the picks and Tuirbovtk is so far the only one who is really helping Mavin on regular bases - so if they don't say anything - you're in no place to make waves here. That is my opinion. I also like to make this or that remark but do not like to steer it up sometimes. Your point is well understood but if you were asked what you'd rather have Phixer's picks with no reasoning or no picks at all - what you'd say? And he can post his picks and if Mavin doesn't want to - he wont enter them into a contest. That is all.
Quote Originally Posted by lrempel:
Just my thoughts. I've seen 20 times others been told to post reasoning. Asking all then to at least give one solid sentence from your brain "why" your thinking your pic Is good. Too many trends to list isn't a thought from the brain. That's simply an excuse of being lazy and not trying to contribute like all those that do give their effort and brainwave thought. I'm just asking to see actual reasoning :)
As much as I understand you - you need to lay off the guy a bit. He doesn't owe anything and you're not a thread mode. If Mavin will feel Phixer is not doing his job and wouldn't wanna post his pick - he'll do it.
I've seen him doing that before here when needed.
Don't forget - Mavin is the guy who deals with all the picks and Tuirbovtk is so far the only one who is really helping Mavin on regular bases - so if they don't say anything - you're in no place to make waves here. That is my opinion. I also like to make this or that remark but do not like to steer it up sometimes. Your point is well understood but if you were asked what you'd rather have Phixer's picks with no reasoning or no picks at all - what you'd say? And he can post his picks and if Mavin doesn't want to - he wont enter them into a contest. That is all.
I've seen the argument for the Over but in my humble opinion these
teams are mirror images of each other. I
think the player matchups make it a defensive battle. I also have been going with the Under and the
Dog in contests between 2 playoff teams.
This has been pretty successful with teams in the same conference, let's
see how it works for out of conference.
I feel there are heavy trends (especially for the Trailblazers) to
suggest the OVER here, and with the line movement... I will take the extra
points and the chances this line was inflated because of both teams recent Over
history.
Not forcing a 3rd play in NBA... I'm feeling the Madness!
Musicmatt1 34-39-1
POR Trailblazers +6
Under 189.5 CHI Bulls - POR Trailblazers
I've seen the argument for the Over but in my humble opinion these
teams are mirror images of each other. I
think the player matchups make it a defensive battle. I also have been going with the Under and the
Dog in contests between 2 playoff teams.
This has been pretty successful with teams in the same conference, let's
see how it works for out of conference.
I feel there are heavy trends (especially for the Trailblazers) to
suggest the OVER here, and with the line movement... I will take the extra
points and the chances this line was inflated because of both teams recent Over
history.
Not forcing a 3rd play in NBA... I'm feeling the Madness!
I've seen the argument for the Over but in my humble opinion these
teams are mirror images of each other. I
think the player matchups make it a defensive battle. I also have been going with the Under and the
Dog in contests between 2 playoff teams.
This has been pretty successful with teams in the same conference, let's
see how it works for out of conference.
I feel there are heavy trends (especially for the Trailblazers) to
suggest the OVER here, and with the line movement... I will take the extra
points and the chances this line was inflated because of both teams recent Over
history.
Not forcing a 3rd play in NBA... I'm feeling the Madness!
Sorry, meant 2 times in the playoff hunt and with how the Lakers have been playing recently... I don't think the Blazers feel their out of it yet.
Quote Originally Posted by Musicmatt1:
Musicmatt1 34-39-1
POR Trailblazers +6
Under 189.5 CHI Bulls - POR Trailblazers
I've seen the argument for the Over but in my humble opinion these
teams are mirror images of each other. I
think the player matchups make it a defensive battle. I also have been going with the Under and the
Dog in contests between 2 playoff teams.
This has been pretty successful with teams in the same conference, let's
see how it works for out of conference.
I feel there are heavy trends (especially for the Trailblazers) to
suggest the OVER here, and with the line movement... I will take the extra
points and the chances this line was inflated because of both teams recent Over
history.
Not forcing a 3rd play in NBA... I'm feeling the Madness!
Sorry, meant 2 times in the playoff hunt and with how the Lakers have been playing recently... I don't think the Blazers feel their out of it yet.
I've seen the argument for the Over but in my humble opinion these
teams are mirror images of each other. I
think the player matchups make it a defensive battle. I also have been going with the Under and the
Dog in contests between 2 playoff teams.
This has been pretty successful with teams in the same conference, let's
see how it works for out of conference.
I feel there are heavy trends (especially for the Trailblazers) to
suggest the OVER here, and with the line movement... I will take the extra
points and the chances this line was inflated because of both teams recent Over
history.
Not forcing a 3rd play in NBA... I'm feeling the Madness!
There's NBA today? lol MADNESS
Quote Originally Posted by Musicmatt1:
Musicmatt1 34-39-1
POR Trailblazers +6
Under 189.5 CHI Bulls - POR Trailblazers
I've seen the argument for the Over but in my humble opinion these
teams are mirror images of each other. I
think the player matchups make it a defensive battle. I also have been going with the Under and the
Dog in contests between 2 playoff teams.
This has been pretty successful with teams in the same conference, let's
see how it works for out of conference.
I feel there are heavy trends (especially for the Trailblazers) to
suggest the OVER here, and with the line movement... I will take the extra
points and the chances this line was inflated because of both teams recent Over
history.
Not forcing a 3rd play in NBA... I'm feeling the Madness!
Matt I think that our theory does not apply the same to NCAA and this is a small $50 bet but will also start tracking these today just to see if it can help in NBA.
Quote Originally Posted by ashylarrymp:
There's NBA today? lol MADNESS
I have 2H under 72.5
Matt I think that our theory does not apply the same to NCAA and this is a small $50 bet but will also start tracking these today just to see if it can help in NBA.
As much as I understand you - you need to lay off the guy a bit. He doesn't owe anything and you're not a thread mode. If Mavin will feel Phixer is not doing his job and wouldn't wanna post his pick - he'll do it.
I've seen him doing that before here when needed.
Don't forget - Mavin is the guy who deals with all the picks and Tuirbovtk is so far the only one who is really helping Mavin on regular bases - so if they don't say anything - you're in no place to make waves here. That is my opinion. I also like to make this or that remark but do not like to steer it up sometimes. Your point is well understood but if you were asked what you'd rather have Phixer's picks with no reasoning or no picks at all - what you'd say? And he can post his picks and if Mavin doesn't want to - he wont enter them into a contest. That is all.
I understand his point and your point. But I am just a helper here it is not my place to rule or judge but to new comers I always point things out- I rarely correct those who have been here because they know the rules, enforcing that is up to the owner of the thread. I do understand why you would want the insight but that is up to Mavin and probably others.
I myself follow phixer if I also agree with his picks, I liked his Rockets under and bet a small amount, I did not like the knicks becaue I thought they could very well get close to the number and could be a situation like Sunday when phixer had the under on OKC Mavs game so I stood away, and it was that close.
He just posted the Chi over which is the only play that I have been looking at because for some reason my book does not have Qs on the denver game at least not yet.
I think that while Thursday have been known as under days there is a good possibility that no one plays defense on the Wolves Kings game but the Kings are so unpredictable.
Quote Originally Posted by meraby:
As much as I understand you - you need to lay off the guy a bit. He doesn't owe anything and you're not a thread mode. If Mavin will feel Phixer is not doing his job and wouldn't wanna post his pick - he'll do it.
I've seen him doing that before here when needed.
Don't forget - Mavin is the guy who deals with all the picks and Tuirbovtk is so far the only one who is really helping Mavin on regular bases - so if they don't say anything - you're in no place to make waves here. That is my opinion. I also like to make this or that remark but do not like to steer it up sometimes. Your point is well understood but if you were asked what you'd rather have Phixer's picks with no reasoning or no picks at all - what you'd say? And he can post his picks and if Mavin doesn't want to - he wont enter them into a contest. That is all.
I understand his point and your point. But I am just a helper here it is not my place to rule or judge but to new comers I always point things out- I rarely correct those who have been here because they know the rules, enforcing that is up to the owner of the thread. I do understand why you would want the insight but that is up to Mavin and probably others.
I myself follow phixer if I also agree with his picks, I liked his Rockets under and bet a small amount, I did not like the knicks becaue I thought they could very well get close to the number and could be a situation like Sunday when phixer had the under on OKC Mavs game so I stood away, and it was that close.
He just posted the Chi over which is the only play that I have been looking at because for some reason my book does not have Qs on the denver game at least not yet.
I think that while Thursday have been known as under days there is a good possibility that no one plays defense on the Wolves Kings game but the Kings are so unpredictable.
Matt I think that our theory does not apply the same to NCAA and this is a small $50 bet but will also start tracking these today just to see if it can help in NBA.
forgot to say Memphis game- up top
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
I have 2H under 72.5
Matt I think that our theory does not apply the same to NCAA and this is a small $50 bet but will also start tracking these today just to see if it can help in NBA.
Sorry, I've been really busy at work today and wasn't following any of the early games closely. I definitely want to look at the 2H Total in the Gonzaga game later.
Now will be watching closely to the 2H Total in Chicago since Phixer is on the other side, lol.
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
forgot to say Memphis game- up top
Sorry, I've been really busy at work today and wasn't following any of the early games closely. I definitely want to look at the 2H Total in the Gonzaga game later.
Now will be watching closely to the 2H Total in Chicago since Phixer is on the other side, lol.
Sorry, I've been really busy at work today and wasn't following any of the early games closely. I definitely want to look at the 2H Total in the Gonzaga game later.
Now will be watching closely to the 2H Total in Chicago since Phixer is on the other side, lol.
I was thinking the exact same thing about the zags and bulls game
also I think Orgeon is on fire since last friday and that second half may be worth a look-
Quote Originally Posted by Musicmatt1:
Sorry, I've been really busy at work today and wasn't following any of the early games closely. I definitely want to look at the 2H Total in the Gonzaga game later.
Now will be watching closely to the 2H Total in Chicago since Phixer is on the other side, lol.
I was thinking the exact same thing about the zags and bulls game
also I think Orgeon is on fire since last friday and that second half may be worth a look-
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