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    Kachanov and Medvedev

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    rzagza
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 9:45 AM ET #1

    Taking stands against both these guys at absurd prices.  -900 and -700.  Get the hell out of here.  These guys need to put alot of work in in their young careers to be laying these kinds of numbers in major matches.
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    Taking stands against both these guys at absurd prices.  -900 and -700.  Get the hell out of here.  These guys need to put alot of work in in their young careers to be laying these kinds of numbers in major matches.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 10:03 AM ET #2

    Both Medvedev and Kachanov off to horrendous starts.  I'm shocked.  Not.

    Medvedev wins his first career match in a major and he's laying 1-7 in his next match.  Yeaaaaaaah OK.
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    Both Medvedev and Kachanov off to horrendous starts.  I'm shocked.  Not.

    Medvedev wins his first career match in a major and he's laying 1-7 in his next match.  Yeaaaaaaah OK.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 10:36 AM ET #3

    Hackanov is fun to fade as a favorite. The guy is a spray machine with his forehand the likes of Paire.  Constantly donating cheap points on absurd wild swings.
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    Hackanov is fun to fade as a favorite. The guy is a spray machine with his forehand the likes of Paire.  Constantly donating cheap points on absurd wild swings.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 10:38 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Although i agree with you regarding both these matches, it sure is easy to post this when Med is down 2 sets, and Khach is down a set and a break.
    I wouldnt be surprised if both gutted out 5 set wins today, but they will likely get bounced on Friday if they get that far

    Hell are you talking about. I posted this right as these matches began.  Yeah Medvedev is NOW down 2 sets.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Although i agree with you regarding both these matches, it sure is easy to post this when Med is down 2 sets, and Khach is down a set and a break.
    I wouldnt be surprised if both gutted out 5 set wins today, but they will likely get bounced on Friday if they get that far

    Hell are you talking about. I posted this right as these matches began.  Yeah Medvedev is NOW down 2 sets.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 10:43 AM ET #5

    Monteiro buckled in the 2nd set and lost the breaker. He's probably in trouble now. Still like Bemelmans chances.
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    Monteiro buckled in the 2nd set and lost the breaker. He's probably in trouble now. Still like Bemelmans chances.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 10:59 AM ET #6

    This is not the first time you've come at me with BS only to be proven wrong.  Medvedev lost the first 2 sets in 1 hour.  I posted at 9:45.  That match began at 9:36.  Your first post here was at 10:30 when he just lost the 2nd set.  
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    This is not the first time you've come at me with BS only to be proven wrong.  Medvedev lost the first 2 sets in 1 hour.  I posted at 9:45.  That match began at 9:36.  Your first post here was at 10:30 when he just lost the 2nd set.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:04 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    This is not the first time you've come at me with BS only to be proven wrong.  Medvedev lost the first 2 sets in 1 hour.  I posted at 9:45.  That match began at 9:36.  Your first post here was at 10:30 when he just lost the 2nd set.  


    I wish I had the chance to tail. You posted at 945 and both were already being played and both were down in each match when i checked at 946. No worries. I like to tail your female underdogs +250 or more but lately it has been a downer. Is that why it is not posted? You only post on other venues and not Wimbledon? 

    Good Luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    This is not the first time you've come at me with BS only to be proven wrong.  Medvedev lost the first 2 sets in 1 hour.  I posted at 9:45.  That match began at 9:36.  Your first post here was at 10:30 when he just lost the 2nd set.  


    I wish I had the chance to tail. You posted at 945 and both were already being played and both were down in each match when i checked at 946. No worries. I like to tail your female underdogs +250 or more but lately it has been a downer. Is that why it is not posted? You only post on other venues and not Wimbledon? 

    Good Luck!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:07 AM ET #8

    Dont you people have live betting?  Get a better book.  Get with 5Dimes.  All these matches are live on their Ultra page.
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    Dont you people have live betting?  Get a better book.  Get with 5Dimes.  All these matches are live on their Ultra page.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:10 AM ET #9

    And yes I'm still doing the +250s in almost all the womens matches with the exception of Kvitova and Karolina Pliskova because they're so tough on grass. Stay the course otherwise.
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    And yes I'm still doing the +250s in almost all the womens matches with the exception of Kvitova and Karolina Pliskova because they're so tough on grass. Stay the course otherwise.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:13 AM ET #10

    But yes slow start on WTA side with the dogs. Only Bogdan and Rodionova have cashed. Rodionova the only huge dog but its early.
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    But yes slow start on WTA side with the dogs. Only Bogdan and Rodionova have cashed. Rodionova the only huge dog but its early.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:17 AM ET #11

    Monteiro just blew triple break point at 4-3 up in the 3rd.  That could be costly mentally.
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    Monteiro just blew triple break point at 4-3 up in the 3rd.  That could be costly mentally.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:21 AM ET #12

    Do you have any dogs going today? I might tail if so!
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    Do you have any dogs going today? I might tail if so!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:29 AM ET #13

    Monteiro blows triple break point in one game, and then blows double set point the next return game.  5-5 now.  God damnit.
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    Monteiro blows triple break point in one game, and then blows double set point the next return game.  5-5 now.  God damnit.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:36 AM ET #14

    packersbacker is the forum police
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:41 AM ET #15

    Monteiro must want to vomit.  Blew the 2nd set in excuciating fashion then blows 2 set points in the 3rd set, loses another tiebreaker. He's basically screwed now.
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    Monteiro must want to vomit.  Blew the 2nd set in excuciating fashion then blows 2 set points in the 3rd set, loses another tiebreaker. He's basically screwed now.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:43 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Its unreal that not every court has hawkeye challenge...Khach was up 0-40 on Monteiro at 2-2 in this set and everyone missed an obvious out call by Thiago...that easily could have turned this set in Karen favor.
    With the richest tourny in the world, how can they possibly not allow for challenges on every court? Ridiculous

    I agree it's ridiculous.  Just like some of the majors not having any lights.  Cheap pricks.  How much can lights possibly cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Its unreal that not every court has hawkeye challenge...Khach was up 0-40 on Monteiro at 2-2 in this set and everyone missed an obvious out call by Thiago...that easily could have turned this set in Karen favor.
    With the richest tourny in the world, how can they possibly not allow for challenges on every court? Ridiculous

    I agree it's ridiculous.  Just like some of the majors not having any lights.  Cheap pricks.  How much can lights possibly cost?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:56 AM ET #17

    Medvedev can still blow this. I'm considering hedging out but at even money no point in bothering.
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    Medvedev can still blow this. I'm considering hedging out but at even money no point in bothering.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:57 AM ET #18

    Shapovolov reminds me a ton of Dolgopolov.  Not sure he'll ever be elite.  He will be one of those up and down yo-yo players with great wins and awful losses.  

    Khachanov and Alex Zverev are def the future.  Zverev will be #1 for sure at some point.  Khachanov is a top 10 player if he can be more patient off the ground.  He's overly aggressive.  Needs to pick his spots.
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    Shapovolov reminds me a ton of Dolgopolov.  Not sure he'll ever be elite.  He will be one of those up and down yo-yo players with great wins and awful losses.  

    Khachanov and Alex Zverev are def the future.  Zverev will be #1 for sure at some point.  Khachanov is a top 10 player if he can be more patient off the ground.  He's overly aggressive.  Needs to pick his spots.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:59 AM ET #19

    See ya, Medvedev.  Wonder how long it'll be until your next win in a major.  Guarantee you wont sniff -700 in a major again before 2020.
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    See ya, Medvedev.  Wonder how long it'll be until your next win in a major.  Guarantee you wont sniff -700 in a major again before 2020.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 11:59 AM ET #20

    Maaaannnn I was really looking at Bemel when 2-0 down 5th set. 100% where on Medvedev on one site. Why do I never have the balls :(:(:(
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    Maaaannnn I was really looking at Bemel when 2-0 down 5th set. 100% where on Medvedev on one site. Why do I never have the balls :(:(:(
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 12:01 PM ET #21

    I dont think much of Rublev or Medvedev.  They're just guys.  Nothing stands out about their games.  
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    I dont think much of Rublev or Medvedev.  They're just guys.  Nothing stands out about their games.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 12:06 PM ET #22

    nothing stands out to you because you didn't watch them growing up on the challenger circuit nor care about diving into coaching. You are just a dart boarder with no real edge.
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    nothing stands out to you because you didn't watch them growing up on the challenger circuit nor care about diving into coaching. You are just a dart boarder with no real edge.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 12:14 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteySkeety:

    nothing stands out to you because you didn't watch them growing up on the challenger circuit nor care about diving into coaching. You are just a dart boarder with no real edge.

    They dont have the weapons you need to be a top 10 player.  And I doubt theyre willing to embrace the grind like a David Ferrer.  Kachanov and Zverev have serious firepower but Zverev's mental approach is better than KK so far.  He also moves better.
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    nothing stands out to you because you didn't watch them growing up on the challenger circuit nor care about diving into coaching. You are just a dart boarder with no real edge.

    They dont have the weapons you need to be a top 10 player.  And I doubt theyre willing to embrace the grind like a David Ferrer.  Kachanov and Zverev have serious firepower but Zverev's mental approach is better than KK so far.  He also moves better.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 12:22 PM ET #24

    Nice hit! Any potential WTA upsets? 
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    Nice hit! Any potential WTA upsets? 
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2017 - 12:44 PM ET #25

    Grass is the one finicky surface for the women.  The reason for that is it plays to the players who are the shot makers.  You see less tampon upsets under that scenario where the true ballstrikers outhit their opponents as opposed to just getting outgrinded by some scrub playing ping pong and praying for errors.  Case in point Brenge beat Kvitova on a hardcourt but plays her today on the faster surface and probably gets blown off the court, and thats even these Wimbledon courts playing slower than ever, it's still the fastest surface out there with the low bounce.
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    Grass is the one finicky surface for the women.  The reason for that is it plays to the players who are the shot makers.  You see less tampon upsets under that scenario where the true ballstrikers outhit their opponents as opposed to just getting outgrinded by some scrub playing ping pong and praying for errors.  Case in point Brenge beat Kvitova on a hardcourt but plays her today on the faster surface and probably gets blown off the court, and thats even these Wimbledon courts playing slower than ever, it's still the fastest surface out there with the low bounce.
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