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    What would a 1000 unit a year system be worth?

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    GreenMachine22
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2013 - 9:02 PM ET #126

    6 Trillion Million Billion...I win.
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2013 - 10:34 PM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    6 Trillion Million Billion...I win.

    That's the amount the national debt went up yesterday?
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    6 Trillion Million Billion...I win.

    That's the amount the national debt went up yesterday?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2013 - 1:40 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Here's a update for all you baseball system players!

    The system I have been raving about I have just competed 3 years back checks. 

    Results so far as I'm going to try and get about 7 or more years checked

    2307-0                This is 86% for A&B plays

    A- 1393
    B- 590
    C-211
    D- 75
    E- 36
    F-2

    This system has another piece to it also which is the RL


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    2013- 422-154
    2012- 471-134
    2011- 418-151

    A loss on the RL means when the chase hit the RL didn't but being that the run line is going to be + money 95% of the time it should add a substantial amount of units also!


    Looking forward to a great season next year!


    The Hat


    Always love your systems.  Looking forward to baseball beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Here's a update for all you baseball system players!

    The system I have been raving about I have just competed 3 years back checks. 

    Results so far as I'm going to try and get about 7 or more years checked

    2307-0                This is 86% for A&B plays

    A- 1393
    B- 590
    C-211
    D- 75
    E- 36
    F-2

    This system has another piece to it also which is the RL


    Results 
    2013- 422-154
    2012- 471-134
    2011- 418-151

    A loss on the RL means when the chase hit the RL didn't but being that the run line is going to be + money 95% of the time it should add a substantial amount of units also!


    Looking forward to a great season next year!


    The Hat


    Always love your systems.  Looking forward to baseball beginning.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2013 - 11:19 PM ET #129

    What are the average odds for this system? 
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2013 - 11:55 PM ET #130

    It varies, between -110 and as high as -280 I'm sure. Most series will be over by the (C) game though. Also you will be up about 150 units after the first month if the averages hold true. I'm going to try and do a spread sheet for at least last year just to determine the bankroll size needed as you may have 5 or more chases going at same time. Less than 5% went past a (C) game, 4.8% to be exact. Also remember there is a secondary part of this system that plays RL and that hits at 74.5% lots of money to be made.

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    It varies, between -110 and as high as -280 I'm sure. Most series will be over by the (C) game though. Also you will be up about 150 units after the first month if the averages hold true. I'm going to try and do a spread sheet for at least last year just to determine the bankroll size needed as you may have 5 or more chases going at same time. Less than 5% went past a (C) game, 4.8% to be exact. Also remember there is a secondary part of this system that plays RL and that hits at 74.5% lots of money to be made.

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 12:42 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:

    What are the average odds for this system? 

    I did a quick 3 team average it was about -142 not to bad. 
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    What are the average odds for this system? 

    I did a quick 3 team average it was about -142 not to bad. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 4:04 PM ET #132

    Are you going to post the plays here?

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 5:28 PM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    Are you going to post the plays here?


    I will start a new thread when it's time to post. I believe the first day for this system is Cinco de Mayo and ends when there are ony 3 series left in the season.I need to think of a witty name for this system.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    Are you going to post the plays here?


    I will start a new thread when it's time to post. I believe the first day for this system is Cinco de Mayo and ends when there are ony 3 series left in the season.I need to think of a witty name for this system.  

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 5:29 PM ET #134

    How about TheGreenMachine
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 5:31 PM ET #135

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    How about TheGreenMachine

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 6:15 PM ET #136

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    It varies, between -110 and as high as -280 I'm sure. Most series will be over by the (C) game though. Also you will be up about 150 units after the first month if the averages hold true. I'm going to try and do a spread sheet for at least last year just to determine the bankroll size needed as you may have 5 or more chases going at same time. Less than 5% went past a (C) game, 4.8% to be exact. Also remember there is a secondary part of this system that plays RL and that hits at 74.5% lots of money to be made.

    The Hat


    thanks. i was trying to figure out if it`s best to run it as a 2 or 3 game chase under a labby line and carry over the losses to the next series. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    It varies, between -110 and as high as -280 I'm sure. Most series will be over by the (C) game though. Also you will be up about 150 units after the first month if the averages hold true. I'm going to try and do a spread sheet for at least last year just to determine the bankroll size needed as you may have 5 or more chases going at same time. Less than 5% went past a (C) game, 4.8% to be exact. Also remember there is a secondary part of this system that plays RL and that hits at 74.5% lots of money to be made.

    The Hat


    thanks. i was trying to figure out if it`s best to run it as a 2 or 3 game chase under a labby line and carry over the losses to the next series. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 6:32 PM ET #137

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:



    thanks. i was trying to figure out if it`s best to run it as a 2 or 3 game chase under a labby line and carry over the losses to the next series. 

    LOSSES? 

    If this system loses in my lifetime I'll cry me a river from here to Florida and retire! Lol
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    thanks. i was trying to figure out if it`s best to run it as a 2 or 3 game chase under a labby line and carry over the losses to the next series. 

    LOSSES? 

    If this system loses in my lifetime I'll cry me a river from here to Florida and retire! Lol
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 6:48 PM ET #138

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    LOSSES? 

    If this system loses in my lifetime I'll cry me a river from here to Florida and retire! Lol

    i didn't mean a full 6 game loss...i meant if i play only the first 2 or 3 games. 
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    LOSSES? 

    If this system loses in my lifetime I'll cry me a river from here to Florida and retire! Lol

    i didn't mean a full 6 game loss...i meant if i play only the first 2 or 3 games. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:


    i didn't mean a full 6 game loss...i meant if i play only the first 2 or 3 games. 

    I've never used a labby line, by my understanding it cuts way down on losses but also restricts maximum profits?
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    i didn't mean a full 6 game loss...i meant if i play only the first 2 or 3 games. 

    I've never used a labby line, by my understanding it cuts way down on losses but also restricts maximum profits?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2013 - 10:38 PM ET #140

    How much should 1unit be worth? I mean in % of bankroll what is ur suggestion
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry18:

    How much should 1unit be worth? I mean in % of bankroll what is ur suggestion

    I'm not sure, I'm going to be using at least $50 as a unit as I'm going to be using a 20k bankroll at least. I'm going to try and put together a mock season with last years results when I get a chance. 
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    How much should 1unit be worth? I mean in % of bankroll what is ur suggestion

    I'm not sure, I'm going to be using at least $50 as a unit as I'm going to be using a 20k bankroll at least. I'm going to try and put together a mock season with last years results when I get a chance. 
     
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    bol with your "big $$ systm" hopefully it works out so all the nay sayers will jst stfu...wasted half an hour reading through this crap..i'll be looking for your plays in may... may have to try and dig up $20k for a bankroll since my current bookie has a min. betsize of $50...boy would i like to beat his azz..with this system maybe i can do that...time will tell...happy holidays
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    bol with your "big $$ systm" hopefully it works out so all the nay sayers will jst stfu...wasted half an hour reading through this crap..i'll be looking for your plays in may... may have to try and dig up $20k for a bankroll since my current bookie has a min. betsize of $50...boy would i like to beat his azz..with this system maybe i can do that...time will tell...happy holidays
     
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    Hey Jeff been reading your posts very interested in talking more i sent you a friend request.

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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2013 - 11:01 AM ET #144

    Money Management is truly key. Especially here with such a potentially long chase. I think chases can make some loot as long as you bet very small to begin with. A small initial bet may be boring, BUT it will allow to play out a system such as this without too much panic. Whatever this system is.

    A word of caution is that just when you don't think something is possible - it happens. A couple years ago I played a 'system' I made up during the NHL Playoffs. Very simple. Fade every team when they play on the Road in a CHASE. Once they lose a Road game the chase was a winner and over with. I had back-tested and figured I'd make a little money. Then the unimaginable happened and the LA Kings Jonathan Quicked me en route to winning EVERY Road game in the Playoffs and the Stanley Cup. I kept chasing a Road loss from them all the way and got slapped for A LOT of losses! I also got smoked fading the Astros 6 games in a row last season (beat Rockies 2 games, then LA Angels 4 in a row!).

    I did quick math at -142 avg odds and if your unit is $50 and you go to a "F Game" (which has happened twice in the three yrs of back-testing), your F Game bet will be $5,892.94 to win $4,149.96. Clearly it is unlikely that you lose that F Game, but "what if." That would take out a tad more than half of your bankroll. "What if" it happened early in the season?

    Not bashing, just tossing out some painful wisdom. In My Opinion, the way the beat the book is by small bets that you can chase if you desire and chip away at those person - nickel and dimeing THEM instead of you! On Aug 30 I deposited $1500 in an account and have patiently grown it to just over $4500 as of yesterday.

    Chip away, baby, and be safe out there 
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    Money Management is truly key. Especially here with such a potentially long chase. I think chases can make some loot as long as you bet very small to begin with. A small initial bet may be boring, BUT it will allow to play out a system such as this without too much panic. Whatever this system is.

    A word of caution is that just when you don't think something is possible - it happens. A couple years ago I played a 'system' I made up during the NHL Playoffs. Very simple. Fade every team when they play on the Road in a CHASE. Once they lose a Road game the chase was a winner and over with. I had back-tested and figured I'd make a little money. Then the unimaginable happened and the LA Kings Jonathan Quicked me en route to winning EVERY Road game in the Playoffs and the Stanley Cup. I kept chasing a Road loss from them all the way and got slapped for A LOT of losses! I also got smoked fading the Astros 6 games in a row last season (beat Rockies 2 games, then LA Angels 4 in a row!).

    I did quick math at -142 avg odds and if your unit is $50 and you go to a "F Game" (which has happened twice in the three yrs of back-testing), your F Game bet will be $5,892.94 to win $4,149.96. Clearly it is unlikely that you lose that F Game, but "what if." That would take out a tad more than half of your bankroll. "What if" it happened early in the season?

    Not bashing, just tossing out some painful wisdom. In My Opinion, the way the beat the book is by small bets that you can chase if you desire and chip away at those person - nickel and dimeing THEM instead of you! On Aug 30 I deposited $1500 in an account and have patiently grown it to just over $4500 as of yesterday.

    Chip away, baby, and be safe out there 
     
     
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