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    What would a 1000 unit a year system be worth?

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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 12:51 PM ET #101

    nah .. how about you just tell me the winners form ..lets say....2003 ..should be easy enough , you did it all by hand...but you can't we..know...as well, since you were completely wrong about the query's  ...and i cleared that up for you, i will answer your other questions as well ..since you are obviously clueless...how many units is it possible to win ...?..well that is completely dependant on the size of your bankroll ,the winning expectation of your plays, and your edge over the book based on winning expectation ..very very basic probability, which u obviously have no grasp of tells you your Edge = Win Probability times Payout minus 1  ..      ..or i can just say 1000 ...either way.
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    nah .. how about you just tell me the winners form ..lets say....2003 ..should be easy enough , you did it all by hand...but you can't we..know...as well, since you were completely wrong about the query's  ...and i cleared that up for you, i will answer your other questions as well ..since you are obviously clueless...how many units is it possible to win ...?..well that is completely dependant on the size of your bankroll ,the winning expectation of your plays, and your edge over the book based on winning expectation ..very very basic probability, which u obviously have no grasp of tells you your Edge = Win Probability times Payout minus 1  ..      ..or i can just say 1000 ...either way.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 12:53 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by neilsy25:



    Of course you can run a query on a chase u moron ..and the person who found the holy grail did exactly that ... i.am not going to put the exact syntax ...but it is a fairly simple query the gist off it is

      April15.517 and stk=4L , then you follow that with however many more games you are chasing.. anyone even remotely adept at using sportsdatabase could write the query for the holy grail in less then a minute

    So, you are telling me that you went through every single team ..looked for a loss of 4 games... then went back and found their winning pct, found it didn't work,rinse and repeat , finally found .517 exactly..and then went through every team,looked for 4 losses..went back ..added up their win pct ..and then decided to do this one ..not for 10 yrs ... but hey..might as well add another 7 ..

    ya..ok...so how many hours did this all take you ... oh, and who were all the wins in the past 17 years ..you must have this..no ?



    Oh since you are the query genius why don't you run the query and try and prove it wrong! Or you could get a life and quit being an a s s! 
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    Of course you can run a query on a chase u moron ..and the person who found the holy grail did exactly that ... i.am not going to put the exact syntax ...but it is a fairly simple query the gist off it is

      April15.517 and stk=4L , then you follow that with however many more games you are chasing.. anyone even remotely adept at using sportsdatabase could write the query for the holy grail in less then a minute

    So, you are telling me that you went through every single team ..looked for a loss of 4 games... then went back and found their winning pct, found it didn't work,rinse and repeat , finally found .517 exactly..and then went through every team,looked for 4 losses..went back ..added up their win pct ..and then decided to do this one ..not for 10 yrs ... but hey..might as well add another 7 ..

    ya..ok...so how many hours did this all take you ... oh, and who were all the wins in the past 17 years ..you must have this..no ?



    Oh since you are the query genius why don't you run the query and try and prove it wrong! Or you could get a life and quit being an a s s! 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 12:58 PM ET #103

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    Chound with all due respect do you have a clue on how to create a winning system? Well I do, and to compare me to one of the worst system creators ever JM is preposterous , that guy is 10 levels below me on creating systems. As far as the all dog system goes I posted a loss OMG call the police c'mon where do guys come from? I never said it would go undefeated if you reread the thread that would put it at 114 -10 at that point but don't bring up the wins that's taboo! Oh thx for posting the rules for me if covers wants to move my threads cool with me but seems like they are ok with what I'm doing just you and a couple other haters with nothing else to do have a problem with it. 

    GL to too 

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          Actually yes I do know how to create a system. 

         Reread your own post 114-9 was 2012 AL backtesting record, plus at least 2 losses you had sustained this year up to posting 1 chase, and a losing one at that.  As far as JM goes,  how is he 10 levels below you.  You'ved posted parameters to 1 of your many chases and where the losses occured you incorporated if scenarios, same thing he does. He will at least post his rules.  And when you revert to calling me adolescent or childish or to ask my mom permission to play on the computer you'll be showing who the real tool is.  Remember the mostly dog chase you posted?  You started a new thread becuase you started attacking flareagle like you do eveyone else.  You'd be a joke if it wasn't for the fact that in person you're probably sadder than you are funny

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    Chound with all due respect do you have a clue on how to create a winning system? Well I do, and to compare me to one of the worst system creators ever JM is preposterous , that guy is 10 levels below me on creating systems. As far as the all dog system goes I posted a loss OMG call the police c'mon where do guys come from? I never said it would go undefeated if you reread the thread that would put it at 114 -10 at that point but don't bring up the wins that's taboo! Oh thx for posting the rules for me if covers wants to move my threads cool with me but seems like they are ok with what I'm doing just you and a couple other haters with nothing else to do have a problem with it. 

    GL to too 

    The Hat

          Actually yes I do know how to create a system. 

         Reread your own post 114-9 was 2012 AL backtesting record, plus at least 2 losses you had sustained this year up to posting 1 chase, and a losing one at that.  As far as JM goes,  how is he 10 levels below you.  You'ved posted parameters to 1 of your many chases and where the losses occured you incorporated if scenarios, same thing he does. He will at least post his rules.  And when you revert to calling me adolescent or childish or to ask my mom permission to play on the computer you'll be showing who the real tool is.  Remember the mostly dog chase you posted?  You started a new thread becuase you started attacking flareagle like you do eveyone else.  You'd be a joke if it wasn't for the fact that in person you're probably sadder than you are funny

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:01 PM ET #104

    Oh one last thing, you too obviously know nothing on how to go about creating and backtesting a system because the way you explained it was ridiculous. But nothing new there. 

    Done entertaining myself with morons, have a nice life. 
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    Oh one last thing, you too obviously know nothing on how to go about creating and backtesting a system because the way you explained it was ridiculous. But nothing new there. 

    Done entertaining myself with morons, have a nice life. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:09 PM ET #105

    Chound and Neilsy 25 I'm proudly awarding you the ignorant posters of the forum award   You earned it!
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    Chound and Neilsy 25 I'm proudly awarding you the ignorant posters of the forum award   You earned it!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:15 PM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Chound and Neilsy 25 I'm proudly awarding you the ignorant posters of the forum award   You earned it!

    Thank you.  That means a lot coming from the most Ignorant person on this or any other forum

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Chound and Neilsy 25 I'm proudly awarding you the ignorant posters of the forum award   You earned it!

    Thank you.  That means a lot coming from the most Ignorant person on this or any other forum

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:20 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by neilsy25:

    nah .. how about you just tell me the winners form ..lets say....2003 ..should be easy enough , you did it all by hand...but you can't we..know...as well, since you were completely wrong about the query's  ...and i cleared that up for you, i will answer your other questions as well ..since you are obviously clueless...how many units is it possible to win ...?..well that is completely dependant on the size of your bankroll ,the winning expectation of your plays, and your edge over the book based on winning expectation ..very very basic probability, which u obviously have no grasp of tells you your Edge = Win Probability times Payout minus 1  ..      ..or i can just say 1000 ...either way.

    Hey schmuck, there were 23 plays that year!  23-0

    A-15
    B-6
    C-1
    D-1

    6/28 TOR (A)
    5/27 BOS (B)
    5/22 NYY (A)

    There's a few now like you said you would go F*CK yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilsy25:

    nah .. how about you just tell me the winners form ..lets say....2003 ..should be easy enough , you did it all by hand...but you can't we..know...as well, since you were completely wrong about the query's  ...and i cleared that up for you, i will answer your other questions as well ..since you are obviously clueless...how many units is it possible to win ...?..well that is completely dependant on the size of your bankroll ,the winning expectation of your plays, and your edge over the book based on winning expectation ..very very basic probability, which u obviously have no grasp of tells you your Edge = Win Probability times Payout minus 1  ..      ..or i can just say 1000 ...either way.

    Hey schmuck, there were 23 plays that year!  23-0

    A-15
    B-6
    C-1
    D-1

    6/28 TOR (A)
    5/27 BOS (B)
    5/22 NYY (A)

    There's a few now like you said you would go F*CK yourself
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:20 PM ET #108

    lol
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:25 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Oh one last thing, you too obviously know nothing on how to go about creating and backtesting a system because the way you explained it was ridiculous. But nothing new there. 

    Done entertaining myself with morons, have a nice life. 

    Point proven with the name calling and I can't create or backtest a system because of the way I explained it.....ARE YOU REALLY THAT CHALLENGED????  Where did I explain or post or backtested a system I came up with on here?

    Let me see here....The great and powerful HATS OVER / UNDER system rule....

    Look for a streak of 3 or more overs or under....When streak is boken the 1st game following the streak breaking chase has to be the same as the streak....added filter, 2 of last 3 games from opposing team must be of the upcoming streak being chased. 

    Example:   u u u o u starts a new chase on under as long as opposing team has 2 unders in last 3 games.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Oh one last thing, you too obviously know nothing on how to go about creating and backtesting a system because the way you explained it was ridiculous. But nothing new there. 

    Done entertaining myself with morons, have a nice life. 

    Point proven with the name calling and I can't create or backtest a system because of the way I explained it.....ARE YOU REALLY THAT CHALLENGED????  Where did I explain or post or backtested a system I came up with on here?

    Let me see here....The great and powerful HATS OVER / UNDER system rule....

    Look for a streak of 3 or more overs or under....When streak is boken the 1st game following the streak breaking chase has to be the same as the streak....added filter, 2 of last 3 games from opposing team must be of the upcoming streak being chased. 

    Example:   u u u o u starts a new chase on under as long as opposing team has 2 unders in last 3 games.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:30 PM ET #110

    Now tell me how clueless I am

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    Now tell me how clueless I am

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:34 PM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by chound:

    Now tell me how clueless I am


    Not my system but if it works for you great! Whatvscyour record this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chound:

    Now tell me how clueless I am


    Not my system but if it works for you great! Whatvscyour record this year?
     
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    After you tell me how clueless I am or the name calling I'd like you to tell me one of your plays that were posted that didn't meet the above mentioned criteria.  My intent wasn't to argue with it which you may believe it was,  it's was for you to either post a few plays from this system which is so great or shut up about it.....this is a forum to help others and other than bragging about all the great systems you have you have rarely posted anything that someone else can use to help them...yes the holy grail and half chases are good, no arguing there but other than those this thread and all the others seem like you like to post just to attract attention,  just like when someone who always talks alot talks just to hear themselves....in this case I'm assuming you have no friends to listen
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    After you tell me how clueless I am or the name calling I'd like you to tell me one of your plays that were posted that didn't meet the above mentioned criteria.  My intent wasn't to argue with it which you may believe it was,  it's was for you to either post a few plays from this system which is so great or shut up about it.....this is a forum to help others and other than bragging about all the great systems you have you have rarely posted anything that someone else can use to help them...yes the holy grail and half chases are good, no arguing there but other than those this thread and all the others seem like you like to post just to attract attention,  just like when someone who always talks alot talks just to hear themselves....in this case I'm assuming you have no friends to listen
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:42 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Not my system but if it works for you great! Whatvscyour record this year?
     

    Haven't bactested every team yet but it's undefeated on teams I have so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Not my system but if it works for you great! Whatvscyour record this year?
     

    Haven't bactested every team yet but it's undefeated on teams I have so far.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 3:17 PM ET #114

    Jeff I made 670 Units in the 2012 season.  Picking my owns games using a simple money management system.

    I will sell it for $10,000 and then you can mark it up if you want and sell it for a million.

    It will all cripple bookies...
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    Jeff I made 670 Units in the 2012 season.  Picking my owns games using a simple money management system.

    I will sell it for $10,000 and then you can mark it up if you want and sell it for a million.

    It will all cripple bookies...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 3:31 PM ET #115

    Betting to win a unit a game and just in baseball?
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 8:58 PM ET #116

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    I've been betting sports 29 years now, after many years of learning the hard way I now have uncovered the recipe for success. So I thought I would help out my fellow handicappers novice and otherwise to reap the rewards alo. Trust me I'm like Dan I will buy an island. If everybody uses solid money mgmt. and follows any of the systems I have posted or created nonposted you will get very rich I can assure you of that.

    Let's all win

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    It looks like my post started all the negative posts, which wasn't my intention. Your other threads seem legit. It's just that this thread seemed like "Hey guys I have a rad system, but I can't share, Ok bye.".

    My point was why bother dangling it in front of us, why not just go bet it?

    Like I said I'm with ya on your other threads. I'm sucker for a good betting system.

    Peace.

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    I've been betting sports 29 years now, after many years of learning the hard way I now have uncovered the recipe for success. So I thought I would help out my fellow handicappers novice and otherwise to reap the rewards alo. Trust me I'm like Dan I will buy an island. If everybody uses solid money mgmt. and follows any of the systems I have posted or created nonposted you will get very rich I can assure you of that.

    Let's all win

    The Hat

    It looks like my post started all the negative posts, which wasn't my intention. Your other threads seem legit. It's just that this thread seemed like "Hey guys I have a rad system, but I can't share, Ok bye.".

    My point was why bother dangling it in front of us, why not just go bet it?

    Like I said I'm with ya on your other threads. I'm sucker for a good betting system.

    Peace.

     
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    Here's a update for all you baseball system players!

    The system I have been raving about I have just competed 3 years back checks. 

    Results so far as I'm going to try and get about 7 or more years checked

    2307-0                This is 86% for A&B plays

    A- 1393
    B- 590
    C-211
    D- 75
    E- 36
    F-2

    This system has another piece to it also which is the RL


    Results 
    2013- 422-154
    2012- 471-134
    2011- 418-151

    A loss on the RL means when the chase hit the RL didn't but being that the run line is going to be + money 95% of the time it should add a substantial amount of units also!


    Looking forward to a great season next year!


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    Here's a update for all you baseball system players!

    The system I have been raving about I have just competed 3 years back checks. 

    Results so far as I'm going to try and get about 7 or more years checked

    2307-0                This is 86% for A&B plays

    A- 1393
    B- 590
    C-211
    D- 75
    E- 36
    F-2

    This system has another piece to it also which is the RL


    Results 
    2013- 422-154
    2012- 471-134
    2011- 418-151

    A loss on the RL means when the chase hit the RL didn't but being that the run line is going to be + money 95% of the time it should add a substantial amount of units also!


    Looking forward to a great season next year!


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    Looking forward to it.
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2013 - 1:06 PM ET #120

    Really LIKE your baseball systems. C'mon spring.

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    Really LIKE your baseball systems. C'mon spring.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2013 - 2:08 PM ET #121

    6 game chases arn't cool. theres a 4 game chase using underdogs in base ball that are much better. even 4 game chase arn't cool but at least less money involved. 4 game chases in underdogs are better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolspot:

    6 game chases arn't cool. theres a 4 game chase using underdogs in base ball that are much better. even 4 game chase arn't cool but at least less money involved. 4 game chases in underdogs are better.

    Well if your 4 game underdog chase makes more than 769 units a year on average that's awesome for you! It only went to a 6th game twice in 2011 so I'm really not worried. It hits 86% on 1st 2 games which isn't to shabby ether. So let me know how yours pans out for you. Personally I will only be using 2 systems in MLB next year this one and an O/U system I have created which is just as good if not better than the side system. 

    Good luck to you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolspot:

    6 game chases arn't cool. theres a 4 game chase using underdogs in base ball that are much better. even 4 game chase arn't cool but at least less money involved. 4 game chases in underdogs are better.

    Well if your 4 game underdog chase makes more than 769 units a year on average that's awesome for you! It only went to a 6th game twice in 2011 so I'm really not worried. It hits 86% on 1st 2 games which isn't to shabby ether. So let me know how yours pans out for you. Personally I will only be using 2 systems in MLB next year this one and an O/U system I have created which is just as good if not better than the side system. 

    Good luck to you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolspot:

    6 game chases arn't cool. theres a 4 game chase using underdogs in base ball that are much better. even 4 game chase arn't cool but at least less money involved. 4 game chases in underdogs are better.

    Also if you used this system as a 3 game chase past 3 years you would be up 237 or so on average per year. Just sayin 

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    6 game chases arn't cool. theres a 4 game chase using underdogs in base ball that are much better. even 4 game chase arn't cool but at least less money involved. 4 game chases in underdogs are better.

    Also if you used this system as a 3 game chase past 3 years you would be up 237 or so on average per year. Just sayin 

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Also if you used this system as a 3 game chase past 3 years you would be up 237 or so on average per year. Just sayin 

    The Hat


    I 'm not knockin your system. it looks good for 2 game chase.

    I have a couple underdog systems for mlb that I picked up in this forum. I put new filters on them so I hope it will be a good summer. I hate posting when I hit big loosing streaks. travis took the same underdog systems last year to 50 grand on 2000$ before he went down to 10 grand a couple weeks at the end of augest. I picked up his underdog system and found some filters.

    I have different underdog system that went from 2000 to 400 grand one year but by the time I found out what the rules were the summer was almost over. I'm hoping to find filters for that one but no luck so far.




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    Also if you used this system as a 3 game chase past 3 years you would be up 237 or so on average per year. Just sayin 

    The Hat


    I 'm not knockin your system. it looks good for 2 game chase.

    I have a couple underdog systems for mlb that I picked up in this forum. I put new filters on them so I hope it will be a good summer. I hate posting when I hit big loosing streaks. travis took the same underdog systems last year to 50 grand on 2000$ before he went down to 10 grand a couple weeks at the end of augest. I picked up his underdog system and found some filters.

    I have different underdog system that went from 2000 to 400 grand one year but by the time I found out what the rules were the summer was almost over. I'm hoping to find filters for that one but no luck so far.




     
     
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