What would a 1000 unit a year system be worth?
Jeff my only problem is why post about systems if you have no intention of posting plays until next season?
Jeff my only problem is why post about systems if you have no intention of posting plays until next season?
This is B.S.. Now with that being said to be 100% fair his 1st half CFB system between 7-16 points could be Valid to a certain point however until back-tested for an entire season and or seasons One doesn't really know. But it looks good so far.
Back to this MLB 1000 unit system. NO SHOT AT ALL...................
The high juice odds will kill you if you take loses and you will Take loses for sure. Here is the problem with all System seekers and so called creators. They all seem to think that all back testing will support future wagering and IT WONT.
I will tell you why. Bookies esp large books ALSO have people that are always looking at all the angles like WE are, As matter of fact a couple of online giants actual employ a couple of guys that all the do is look on how they can be beaten with progression type systems. Point is that they will make adjustments to ANYTHING you come up with and I mean Anything.
JM
Beat them for 2 years and they closed that loop very fast. They just don't get beat for very long, I don't care what anyone says or thinks its not going to happen. And to play anything over a 3 game chase in the long run is a disaster waiting to happen. It has happened to EVERY System player out in cyber world. The 50% curve will get YOU every time in the long run. It all it takes is a couple of losing chases and Your bankroll is wiped out. And since this Original Poster cannot PROVE ME WRONG. He has NO Merit at all.
3 and 4 and 5 game chases will not yield you, the money you put up to gain from it ? If they did, the Bookies would be Busted Out...............
Wishful Thinking !!!! Not to mention if You are so Confident in this 1000 unit system .
Post the plays daily without telling anyone the system itself and show us all your + 1000 units. Plus why don't you quit your job and just wager on sports ?
It Isn't Happening....................................
BK
This is B.S.. Now with that being said to be 100% fair his 1st half CFB system between 7-16 points could be Valid to a certain point however until back-tested for an entire season and or seasons One doesn't really know. But it looks good so far.
Back to this MLB 1000 unit system. NO SHOT AT ALL...................
The high juice odds will kill you if you take loses and you will Take loses for sure. Here is the problem with all System seekers and so called creators. They all seem to think that all back testing will support future wagering and IT WONT.
I will tell you why. Bookies esp large books ALSO have people that are always looking at all the angles like WE are, As matter of fact a couple of online giants actual employ a couple of guys that all the do is look on how they can be beaten with progression type systems. Point is that they will make adjustments to ANYTHING you come up with and I mean Anything.
JM
Beat them for 2 years and they closed that loop very fast. They just don't get beat for very long, I don't care what anyone says or thinks its not going to happen. And to play anything over a 3 game chase in the long run is a disaster waiting to happen. It has happened to EVERY System player out in cyber world. The 50% curve will get YOU every time in the long run. It all it takes is a couple of losing chases and Your bankroll is wiped out. And since this Original Poster cannot PROVE ME WRONG. He has NO Merit at all.
3 and 4 and 5 game chases will not yield you, the money you put up to gain from it ? If they did, the Bookies would be Busted Out...............
Wishful Thinking !!!! Not to mention if You are so Confident in this 1000 unit system .
Post the plays daily without telling anyone the system itself and show us all your + 1000 units. Plus why don't you quit your job and just wager on sports ?
It Isn't Happening....................................
BK
This is B.S.. Now with that being said to be 100% fair his 1st half CFB system between 7-16 points could be Valid to a certain point however until back-tested for an entire season and or seasons One doesn't really know. But it looks good so far.
Back to this MLB 1000 unit system. NO SHOT AT ALL...................
The high juice odds will kill you if you take loses and you will Take loses for sure. Here is the problem with all System seekers and so called creators. They all seem to think that all back testing will support future wagering and IT WONT.
I will tell you why. Bookies esp large books ALSO have people that are always looking at all the angles like WE are, As matter of fact a couple of online giants actual employ a couple of guys that all the do is look on how they can be beaten with progression type systems. Point is that they will make adjustments to ANYTHING you come up with and I mean Anything.
JM
Beat them for 2 years and they closed that loop very fast. They just don't get beat for very long, I don't care what anyone says or thinks its not going to happen. And to play anything over a 3 game chase in the long run is a disaster waiting to happen. It has happened to EVERY System player out in cyber world. The 50% curve will get YOU every time in the long run. It all it takes is a couple of losing chases and Your bankroll is wiped out. And since this Original Poster cannot PROVE ME WRONG. He has NO Merit at all.
3 and 4 and 5 game chases will not yield you, the money you put up to gain from it ? If they did, the Bookies would be Busted Out...............
Wishful Thinking !!!! Not to mention if You are so Confident in this 1000 unit system .
Post the plays daily without telling anyone the system itself and show us all your + 1000 units. Plus why don't you quit your job and just wager on sports ?
It Isn't Happening....................................
BK
This is B.S.. Now with that being said to be 100% fair his 1st half CFB system between 7-16 points could be Valid to a certain point however until back-tested for an entire season and or seasons One doesn't really know. But it looks good so far.
Back to this MLB 1000 unit system. NO SHOT AT ALL...................
The high juice odds will kill you if you take loses and you will Take loses for sure. Here is the problem with all System seekers and so called creators. They all seem to think that all back testing will support future wagering and IT WONT.
I will tell you why. Bookies esp large books ALSO have people that are always looking at all the angles like WE are, As matter of fact a couple of online giants actual employ a couple of guys that all the do is look on how they can be beaten with progression type systems. Point is that they will make adjustments to ANYTHING you come up with and I mean Anything.
JM
Beat them for 2 years and they closed that loop very fast. They just don't get beat for very long, I don't care what anyone says or thinks its not going to happen. And to play anything over a 3 game chase in the long run is a disaster waiting to happen. It has happened to EVERY System player out in cyber world. The 50% curve will get YOU every time in the long run. It all it takes is a couple of losing chases and Your bankroll is wiped out. And since this Original Poster cannot PROVE ME WRONG. He has NO Merit at all.
3 and 4 and 5 game chases will not yield you, the money you put up to gain from it ? If they did, the Bookies would be Busted Out...............
Wishful Thinking !!!! Not to mention if You are so Confident in this 1000 unit system .
Post the plays daily without telling anyone the system itself and show us all your + 1000 units. Plus why don't you quit your job and just wager on sports ?
It Isn't Happening....................................
BK
Mr. Hat...
Mr. Hat...
When someone suggests that a system that has been thoroughly back tested has a very high unit return some understandably will call foul. Fine, just don't try to beat down the person who is willing to share the results of their research. A lot of time is taken to try to find a betting edge to be put together into a system, while it takes just a few seconds to poo poo it.
I appreciate the efforts Jeff and others have done in this thread, understanding that I risk my money when I choose to follow picks, even when parameters of a system are not given.
One almost needs to make bets as if just an ordinary routine, without worrying about every inning, quarter, or whatever. Money management if often espoused and should be heeded. It could almost be boring how low of your bankroll percentage is put at risk to win a unit. I would rather win $5 than lose $100. Building a bankroll may take time, but I try not to push it and if using the right systems let it gradually build over time. Whether using a very low bankroll percentage and labby to control it or whatever method, I try to keep risk low. It's a business, and try to protect it.
Of the hundreds of thousands or millions of online bettors out there, there are only a small percentage that actually follow these kind of forums. I hope that keeps any books from acting. This is another reason that not listing parameters can be helpful sometimes. Even when some system's parameters are listed, there is a bit of work daily to determine what the pick is.
To list a system parameter or not, I thank Jeff and the others for hours of research and daily dedication of posting picks, when things are going well and even when the systems start to test your will.
Thank you all. I, as others should know that they follow at their own risk and I risk to follow.
Good luck on your future
When someone suggests that a system that has been thoroughly back tested has a very high unit return some understandably will call foul. Fine, just don't try to beat down the person who is willing to share the results of their research. A lot of time is taken to try to find a betting edge to be put together into a system, while it takes just a few seconds to poo poo it.
I appreciate the efforts Jeff and others have done in this thread, understanding that I risk my money when I choose to follow picks, even when parameters of a system are not given.
One almost needs to make bets as if just an ordinary routine, without worrying about every inning, quarter, or whatever. Money management if often espoused and should be heeded. It could almost be boring how low of your bankroll percentage is put at risk to win a unit. I would rather win $5 than lose $100. Building a bankroll may take time, but I try not to push it and if using the right systems let it gradually build over time. Whether using a very low bankroll percentage and labby to control it or whatever method, I try to keep risk low. It's a business, and try to protect it.
Of the hundreds of thousands or millions of online bettors out there, there are only a small percentage that actually follow these kind of forums. I hope that keeps any books from acting. This is another reason that not listing parameters can be helpful sometimes. Even when some system's parameters are listed, there is a bit of work daily to determine what the pick is.
To list a system parameter or not, I thank Jeff and the others for hours of research and daily dedication of posting picks, when things are going well and even when the systems start to test your will.
Thank you all. I, as others should know that they follow at their own risk and I risk to follow.
Good luck on your future
If Goliath plays every day and your testing and backtesting why would you need time to prepare it? You should know the next plays and be able to post a few.
And Yes the holy grail has been backtested 17 years without a loss but that was only after certain parameters were added when you discovered losses during backtesting. JM does the same crap....New improved version 2.0
To Riceboi:
Good thing he didn't post plays from his undefeated underdog system.....dig up the thread...He posted 1 chase on LAA and it lost...
If Goliath plays every day and your testing and backtesting why would you need time to prepare it? You should know the next plays and be able to post a few.
And Yes the holy grail has been backtested 17 years without a loss but that was only after certain parameters were added when you discovered losses during backtesting. JM does the same crap....New improved version 2.0
To Riceboi:
Good thing he didn't post plays from his undefeated underdog system.....dig up the thread...He posted 1 chase on LAA and it lost...
This is the System & Strategies forum....Unless I'm wrong isn't the first post in this forum from the Covers Team and isn't the message below their post regarding plays being posted in this section of the forum.
Just remember that this forum is for systems and explaining how your system works. If you are just posting picks please post them in the appropriate sports forum.
Thanks
This is the System & Strategies forum....Unless I'm wrong isn't the first post in this forum from the Covers Team and isn't the message below their post regarding plays being posted in this section of the forum.
Just remember that this forum is for systems and explaining how your system works. If you are just posting picks please post them in the appropriate sports forum.
Thanks
I do agree that at system plays should have MM defined clearly with each play. Disciplined MM is the key to success whether system play or handicapped play or a combination of the two.
The sad thing about all these threads and posts is that we are all here for a common goal and that is to make money. Unfortunately we can't pool our energies together and help each other to achieve success. Many minds together are more powerful than one alone
I do agree that at system plays should have MM defined clearly with each play. Disciplined MM is the key to success whether system play or handicapped play or a combination of the two.
The sad thing about all these threads and posts is that we are all here for a common goal and that is to make money. Unfortunately we can't pool our energies together and help each other to achieve success. Many minds together are more powerful than one alone
Not to mention the one system he does post parameters to ...the Holy Grail , is clearly not his , obviously .. i mean, all his systems are "backchecked 10 years" ..yet this one is back tested not 10, but...exactly 17 years...He says he does all his back checking using covers , yet comes up with a win percentage of exactly .517.. This chase is so obviously something run from a database , where one can change the parameters and run a query... most likely sportsdatabase.com . I know Jeff, you are going to now call me stupid tell me to ask my mom to explain things,etc ...
Not to mention the one system he does post parameters to ...the Holy Grail , is clearly not his , obviously .. i mean, all his systems are "backchecked 10 years" ..yet this one is back tested not 10, but...exactly 17 years...He says he does all his back checking using covers , yet comes up with a win percentage of exactly .517.. This chase is so obviously something run from a database , where one can change the parameters and run a query... most likely sportsdatabase.com . I know Jeff, you are going to now call me stupid tell me to ask my mom to explain things,etc ...
If Goliath plays every day and your testing and backtesting why would you need time to prepare it? You should know the next plays and be able to post a few.
And Yes the holy grail has been backtested 17 years without a loss but that was only after certain parameters were added when you discovered losses during backtesting. JM does the same crap....New improved version 2.0
To Riceboi:
Good thing he didn't post plays from his undefeated underdog system.....dig up the thread...He posted 1 chase on LAA and it lost...
If Goliath plays every day and your testing and backtesting why would you need time to prepare it? You should know the next plays and be able to post a few.
And Yes the holy grail has been backtested 17 years without a loss but that was only after certain parameters were added when you discovered losses during backtesting. JM does the same crap....New improved version 2.0
To Riceboi:
Good thing he didn't post plays from his undefeated underdog system.....dig up the thread...He posted 1 chase on LAA and it lost...
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