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    What would a 1000 unit a year system be worth?

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 6:26 PM ET #26

    So with that, the play tonight Jeff is.... LOL!!!
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 6:45 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    I've been betting sports 29 years now, after many years of learning the hard way I now have uncovered the recipe for success. So I thought I would help out my fellow handicappers novice and otherwise to reap the rewards alo. Trust me I'm like Dan I will buy an island. If everybody uses solid money mgmt. and follows any of the systems I have posted or created nonposted you will get very rich I can assure you of that.

    Let's all win

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    I've been betting sports 29 years now, after many years of learning the hard way I now have uncovered the recipe for success. So I thought I would help out my fellow handicappers novice and otherwise to reap the rewards alo. Trust me I'm like Dan I will buy an island. If everybody uses solid money mgmt. and follows any of the systems I have posted or created nonposted you will get very rich I can assure you of that.

    Let's all win

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 7:03 PM ET #28

    I don't see how winning 1000 units with the betting parameters you have set could be even remotely possible. You'd basically have to bet every game on the board, everyday, and still not come close to 1000 units profit. You have to average around 38.5 units a week for the entire season, and only betting to win one unit per game? Obviously, there's something you're not telling us. Otherwise, its just not possible.
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    I don't see how winning 1000 units with the betting parameters you have set could be even remotely possible. You'd basically have to bet every game on the board, everyday, and still not come close to 1000 units profit. You have to average around 38.5 units a week for the entire season, and only betting to win one unit per game? Obviously, there's something you're not telling us. Otherwise, its just not possible.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 7:36 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by bruin95:

    I don't see how winning 1000 units with the betting parameters you have set could be even remotely possible. You'd basically have to bet every game on the board, everyday, and still not come close to 1000 units profit. You have to average around 38.5 units a week for the entire season, and only betting to win one unit per game? Obviously, there's something you're not telling us. Otherwise, its just not possible.

    For the season there is close to 780 series. Maybe it's a dog system where you gain more than a unit a series???? Very curious to see a play or two.

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruin95:

    I don't see how winning 1000 units with the betting parameters you have set could be even remotely possible. You'd basically have to bet every game on the board, everyday, and still not come close to 1000 units profit. You have to average around 38.5 units a week for the entire season, and only betting to win one unit per game? Obviously, there's something you're not telling us. Otherwise, its just not possible.

    For the season there is close to 780 series. Maybe it's a dog system where you gain more than a unit a series???? Very curious to see a play or two.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 7:39 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by bruin95:

    I don't see how winning 1000 units with the betting parameters you have set could be even remotely possible. You'd basically have to bet every game on the board, everyday, and still not come close to 1000 units profit. You have to average around 38.5 units a week for the entire season, and only betting to win one unit per game? Obviously, there's something you're not telling us. Otherwise, its just not possible.

    Ahhh, not so fast! Each team plays over 40 series a year x 30 teams there's 1200 right there! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruin95:

    I don't see how winning 1000 units with the betting parameters you have set could be even remotely possible. You'd basically have to bet every game on the board, everyday, and still not come close to 1000 units profit. You have to average around 38.5 units a week for the entire season, and only betting to win one unit per game? Obviously, there's something you're not telling us. Otherwise, its just not possible.

    Ahhh, not so fast! Each team plays over 40 series a year x 30 teams there's 1200 right there! 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:02 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Ahhh, not so fast! Each team plays over 40 series a year x 30 teams there's 1200 right there! 

    I think you double counted these. Unless of course you are playing for each side to get a unit during the same series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Ahhh, not so fast! Each team plays over 40 series a year x 30 teams there's 1200 right there! 

    I think you double counted these. Unless of course you are playing for each side to get a unit during the same series.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:10 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I think you double counted these. Unless of course you are playing for each side to get a unit during the same series.


    Ahh thinking outside the box! I like it. Close it's actually betting each team in the series for a unit each so in essence a possible 2 units per game , but actually betting 1unit per team! It's a lot of games but as of right now hitting 93% on the A&B game. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I think you double counted these. Unless of course you are playing for each side to get a unit during the same series.


    Ahh thinking outside the box! I like it. Close it's actually betting each team in the series for a unit each so in essence a possible 2 units per game , but actually betting 1unit per team! It's a lot of games but as of right now hitting 93% on the A&B game. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:13 PM ET #33

    Didn't get a chance to post in time CLE + 1.5 RL this is a new system that you haven't seen. You can follow along with the play
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:13 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Ahh thinking outside the box! I like it. Close it's actually betting each team in the series for a unit each so in essence a possible 2 units per game , but actually betting 1unit per team! It's a lot of games but as of right now hitting 93% on the A&B game. 

    Sounds awesome! Would love to see it in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Ahh thinking outside the box! I like it. Close it's actually betting each team in the series for a unit each so in essence a possible 2 units per game , but actually betting 1unit per team! It's a lot of games but as of right now hitting 93% on the A&B game. 

    Sounds awesome! Would love to see it in action.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:20 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Didn't get a chance to post in time CLE + 1.5 RL this is a new system that you haven't seen. You can follow along with the play

    Was Cleveland the play for the GOLIATH system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Didn't get a chance to post in time CLE + 1.5 RL this is a new system that you haven't seen. You can follow along with the play

    Was Cleveland the play for the GOLIATH system?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:29 PM ET #36

    man, disappointed I wasn't able to get play in. Please post a little sooner if possible. This play starts the GOLIATH system you have been talking about?
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    man, disappointed I wasn't able to get play in. Please post a little sooner if possible. This play starts the GOLIATH system you have been talking about?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:37 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by CG2A:

    man, disappointed I wasn't able to get play in. Please post a little sooner if possible. This play starts the GOLIATH system you have been talking about?

    Go get it live. KC is up 1-0 so you'll get good odds. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by CG2A:

    man, disappointed I wasn't able to get play in. Please post a little sooner if possible. This play starts the GOLIATH system you have been talking about?

    Go get it live. KC is up 1-0 so you'll get good odds. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:48 PM ET #38

    At 93% on A B games I would just run this as a 2 game chase and increase unit size temporarily after a B loss. Anyone can play a 2 game chase without too much nail biting I would think.
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    At 93% on A B games I would just run this as a 2 game chase and increase unit size temporarily after a B loss. Anyone can play a 2 game chase without too much nail biting I would think.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Was Cleveland the play for the GOLIATH system?


    Sorry guys, I got home way to late to sort everything out. CLE +1.5 not a Goliath play. This is from another unposted system that's why I said follow along. I will do my best to get a couple Goliath plays up tomorrow. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Was Cleveland the play for the GOLIATH system?


    Sorry guys, I got home way to late to sort everything out. CLE +1.5 not a Goliath play. This is from another unposted system that's why I said follow along. I will do my best to get a couple Goliath plays up tomorrow. 

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2013 - 8:53 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Sorry guys, I got home way to late to sort everything out. CLE +1.5 not a Goliath play. This is from another unposted system that's why I said follow along. I will do my best to get a couple Goliath plays up tomorrow. 

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    Great, Thanks!! Also please post any of your O/U plays until season ends! I have made some $$$ on that system

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Sorry guys, I got home way to late to sort everything out. CLE +1.5 not a Goliath play. This is from another unposted system that's why I said follow along. I will do my best to get a couple Goliath plays up tomorrow. 

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    Great, Thanks!! Also please post any of your O/U plays until season ends! I have made some $$$ on that system

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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2013 - 12:21 AM ET #41

    With All due respect to everyone on this  thread. Total Load of Crap. 1st off there is no way in hell you would make a 1000 units on a 3 game chase. I have over 25 years of research on every 3 and 4 game chase ever created by everyone and the best one isn't  even close to that, as matter of fact most fail and  the  couple of ones that  do make it You grind out  Huge wagers with Over-whelming Odds against you.

    Play a Chase and GO BROKE................ PERIOD CASE CLOSED.

    P.S.  Your system isn't worth the paper its written ON.......................

    Keep trying thu Bro, you never know. You could be the next  JM ?

    I think his system made everyone close to a Billion Dollars ?

     

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    With All due respect to everyone on this  thread. Total Load of Crap. 1st off there is no way in hell you would make a 1000 units on a 3 game chase. I have over 25 years of research on every 3 and 4 game chase ever created by everyone and the best one isn't  even close to that, as matter of fact most fail and  the  couple of ones that  do make it You grind out  Huge wagers with Over-whelming Odds against you.

    Play a Chase and GO BROKE................ PERIOD CASE CLOSED.

    P.S.  Your system isn't worth the paper its written ON.......................

    Keep trying thu Bro, you never know. You could be the next  JM ?

    I think his system made everyone close to a Billion Dollars ?

     

    BK

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2013 - 9:15 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by bigkeith:

    With All due respect to everyone on this  thread. Total Load of Crap. 1st off there is no way in hell you would make a 1000 units on a 3 game chase. I have over 25 years of research on every 3 and 4 game chase ever created by everyone and the best one isn't  even close to that, as matter of fact most fail and  the  couple of ones that  do make it You grind out  Huge wagers with Over-whelming Odds against you.

    Play a Chase and GO BROKE................ PERIOD CASE CLOSED.

    P.S.  Your system isn't worth the paper its written ON.......................

    Keep trying thu Bro, you never know. You could be the next  JM ?

    I think his system made everyone close to a Billion Dollars ?

     

    BK

     


    This

    If you stare at any group of random numbers or results long enough, you are going to find a pattern. doesn't mean the pattern is going to repeat itself. For those of you begging for more of the o/u system cos its what..26-0 ... know that even if you flip  a coin to pick the games it is still not going to lose 5 in a row 97% of the time, ... but if you insist on chasing this, the system isn't rocket science, Cisco has been running it for years.. (i.e....wait for a streak of 3 unders to end, after the next under,chase to 5..)  . To think you can sell a 3 game chase for a million dollars,is ..well ...laughable....good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigkeith:

    With All due respect to everyone on this  thread. Total Load of Crap. 1st off there is no way in hell you would make a 1000 units on a 3 game chase. I have over 25 years of research on every 3 and 4 game chase ever created by everyone and the best one isn't  even close to that, as matter of fact most fail and  the  couple of ones that  do make it You grind out  Huge wagers with Over-whelming Odds against you.

    Play a Chase and GO BROKE................ PERIOD CASE CLOSED.

    P.S.  Your system isn't worth the paper its written ON.......................

    Keep trying thu Bro, you never know. You could be the next  JM ?

    I think his system made everyone close to a Billion Dollars ?

     

    BK

     


    This

    If you stare at any group of random numbers or results long enough, you are going to find a pattern. doesn't mean the pattern is going to repeat itself. For those of you begging for more of the o/u system cos its what..26-0 ... know that even if you flip  a coin to pick the games it is still not going to lose 5 in a row 97% of the time, ... but if you insist on chasing this, the system isn't rocket science, Cisco has been running it for years.. (i.e....wait for a streak of 3 unders to end, after the next under,chase to 5..)  . To think you can sell a 3 game chase for a million dollars,is ..well ...laughable....good luck.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2013 - 9:56 AM ET #43

    while you're correct about 5 game chase systems being over rated, a system that wins 93% after only 2 is worth something provided years of backtesting holds up.
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    while you're correct about 5 game chase systems being over rated, a system that wins 93% after only 2 is worth something provided years of backtesting holds up.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigkeith:

    With All due respect to everyone on this  thread. Total Load of Crap. 1st off there is no way in hell you would make a 1000 units on a 3 game chase. I have over 25 years of research on every 3 and 4 game chase ever created by everyone and the best one isn't  even close to that, as matter of fact most fail and  the  couple of ones that  do make it You grind out  Huge wagers with Over-whelming Odds against you.

    Play a Chase and GO BROKE................ PERIOD CASE CLOSED.

    P.S.  Your system isn't worth the paper its written ON.......................

    Keep trying thu Bro, you never know. You could be the next  JM ?

    I think his system made everyone close to a Billion Dollars ?

     

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    With all do respect your an IDIOT, it's qute apparent you have no idea what your talking about. Also you don't have my chases because the 2 posted haven't lost ths year and hasn't lost in 17 years. With that being said go back to playing with your legos and Lincoln logs and stay out of my thread.

    Oh and P.S. Jim Morrison's systems aren't even in the same galaxy as far as mine don't compare trash with caviar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigkeith:

    With All due respect to everyone on this  thread. Total Load of Crap. 1st off there is no way in hell you would make a 1000 units on a 3 game chase. I have over 25 years of research on every 3 and 4 game chase ever created by everyone and the best one isn't  even close to that, as matter of fact most fail and  the  couple of ones that  do make it You grind out  Huge wagers with Over-whelming Odds against you.

    Play a Chase and GO BROKE................ PERIOD CASE CLOSED.

    P.S.  Your system isn't worth the paper its written ON.......................

    Keep trying thu Bro, you never know. You could be the next  JM ?

    I think his system made everyone close to a Billion Dollars ?

     

    BK

     


    With all do respect your an IDIOT, it's qute apparent you have no idea what your talking about. Also you don't have my chases because the 2 posted haven't lost ths year and hasn't lost in 17 years. With that being said go back to playing with your legos and Lincoln logs and stay out of my thread.

    Oh and P.S. Jim Morrison's systems aren't even in the same galaxy as far as mine don't compare trash with caviar.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilsy25:


    This

    If you stare at any group of random numbers or results long enough, you are going to find a pattern. doesn't mean the pattern is going to repeat itself. For those of you begging for more of the o/u system cos its what..26-0 ... know that even if you flip  a coin to pick the games it is still not going to lose 5 in a row 97% of the time, ... but if you insist on chasing this, the system isn't rocket science, Cisco has been running it for years.. (i.e....wait for a streak of 3 unders to end, after the next under,chase to 5..)  . To think you can sell a 3 game chase for a million dollars,is ..well ...laughable....good luck.

    Oh thanks for bringing that to my attention its worth more than a million, it's really funny how guys who can't come up with a system of there own are quick to criticize. So for you and Big Keith I say good luck on however you bet. 
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    This

    If you stare at any group of random numbers or results long enough, you are going to find a pattern. doesn't mean the pattern is going to repeat itself. For those of you begging for more of the o/u system cos its what..26-0 ... know that even if you flip  a coin to pick the games it is still not going to lose 5 in a row 97% of the time, ... but if you insist on chasing this, the system isn't rocket science, Cisco has been running it for years.. (i.e....wait for a streak of 3 unders to end, after the next under,chase to 5..)  . To think you can sell a 3 game chase for a million dollars,is ..well ...laughable....good luck.

    Oh thanks for bringing that to my attention its worth more than a million, it's really funny how guys who can't come up with a system of there own are quick to criticize. So for you and Big Keith I say good luck on however you bet. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2013 - 11:22 AM ET #46

     very interested in this
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     very interested in this
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2013 - 11:23 AM ET #47

    Jeff - for a $10 unit bettor, what would you recommend the bankroll be for this system?
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    Jeff - for a $10 unit bettor, what would you recommend the bankroll be for this system?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2013 - 12:00 PM ET #48

    CLE +1.5 G2 today?
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2013 - 12:08 PM ET #49

    Cleveland is a favorite now
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Oh thanks for bringing that to my attention its worth more than a million, it's really funny how guys who can't come up with a system of there own are quick to criticize. So for you and Big Keith I say good luck on however you bet. 

     After "29 years of handicapping" you still think chasing is a system. Trust me, i spent several years trying every kind of chase out there... kept telling myself that despite the fact that every single mathametician, computer geek,and expert  in the world proved that you cannot in the long run be profitable chasing . You are just smarter then them all ... Post this "system" for a full year and show the results... then lets talk ..it will never happen ...Its not criticism, its fact, if after 29 years of handicaPping you still believe that you have  a 1000  unit system ..well, don't know what to say...finding small edges and using proper bankroll management is the "system" ....GOOD LUCK.
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    Oh thanks for bringing that to my attention its worth more than a million, it's really funny how guys who can't come up with a system of there own are quick to criticize. So for you and Big Keith I say good luck on however you bet. 

     After "29 years of handicapping" you still think chasing is a system. Trust me, i spent several years trying every kind of chase out there... kept telling myself that despite the fact that every single mathametician, computer geek,and expert  in the world proved that you cannot in the long run be profitable chasing . You are just smarter then them all ... Post this "system" for a full year and show the results... then lets talk ..it will never happen ...Its not criticism, its fact, if after 29 years of handicaPping you still believe that you have  a 1000  unit system ..well, don't know what to say...finding small edges and using proper bankroll management is the "system" ....GOOD LUCK.
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