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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 5:05 AM ET #1

    I've been reading and reading all different threads about systems and chases and what not. Either its tooo risky because a 6 game chase will prob crack all of us.. or too confusing .. and then i started thinking. Theres a 3 game chase given to us. Not only is it given to us but Proffesional people work endlessly making sure that it evens out. No one can guarantee that a team wont go 0 and 20.. but I can sure as hell guarantee that no team will ever go under or over 20 times in a row. Vegas bookmakers is on our side. Plus its flat cheap -110 juice. Unlike run lines or favorites that kill us every god damn day. So this thread will be dedicated to my pursue of crushing it forever.

    Ill be breaking everything down to a series. There are 15 series going on or starting at any given time. 15! Once in a blue for every 15 sets of series only one or two max either all go over or under. And thats one in a blue. So now my old life of a grind, picking winners contemplating if faves or worthy, will bullpens darn everything up is over.
    now my job is simple, there are 13 out of 15 series at every given time that will have at least one over and one under. Pick one and chase either the over or under. 50 bucks is my unit size, because one I dont have a lot and losing the chase would be 350 and that wouldn't be close to the thousands ive lost in a week trying to the best of my goddamn ability to pick winners.

    Just a note, im not a fact checker but I cant imagine anytime ever that 5 out of 15 series ever all went over or under at a time. And even so, even friggin so, our odds are 10 out 15, lol friggin 66 percent chance to pick a winner at RANDOM, we know matchups for a series we can friggin do this.

    And our first series pick will be.....
    Your cue to chime in fellas
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    I've been reading and reading all different threads about systems and chases and what not. Either its tooo risky because a 6 game chase will prob crack all of us.. or too confusing .. and then i started thinking. Theres a 3 game chase given to us. Not only is it given to us but Proffesional people work endlessly making sure that it evens out. No one can guarantee that a team wont go 0 and 20.. but I can sure as hell guarantee that no team will ever go under or over 20 times in a row. Vegas bookmakers is on our side. Plus its flat cheap -110 juice. Unlike run lines or favorites that kill us every god damn day. So this thread will be dedicated to my pursue of crushing it forever.

    Ill be breaking everything down to a series. There are 15 series going on or starting at any given time. 15! Once in a blue for every 15 sets of series only one or two max either all go over or under. And thats one in a blue. So now my old life of a grind, picking winners contemplating if faves or worthy, will bullpens darn everything up is over.
    now my job is simple, there are 13 out of 15 series at every given time that will have at least one over and one under. Pick one and chase either the over or under. 50 bucks is my unit size, because one I dont have a lot and losing the chase would be 350 and that wouldn't be close to the thousands ive lost in a week trying to the best of my goddamn ability to pick winners.

    Just a note, im not a fact checker but I cant imagine anytime ever that 5 out of 15 series ever all went over or under at a time. And even so, even friggin so, our odds are 10 out 15, lol friggin 66 percent chance to pick a winner at RANDOM, we know matchups for a series we can friggin do this.

    And our first series pick will be.....
    Your cue to chime in fellas
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 5:06 AM ET #2

    Correct me please if theres a flaw.. cuz its about to begin... FOR REAL!
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 6:17 AM ET #3

    Don't know if there are any flaws but what I can tell is that I thought the same thing about chasing money lines and runlines compared to over/under bets. I totally stay away from chasing money or run lines right now and focus only on over/under.
    Perhaps you could use sportsdatabase for queries to backtest your thoughts?
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    Don't know if there are any flaws but what I can tell is that I thought the same thing about chasing money lines and runlines compared to over/under bets. I totally stay away from chasing money or run lines right now and focus only on over/under.
    Perhaps you could use sportsdatabase for queries to backtest your thoughts?
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 6:55 AM ET #4

    So you are going to wait  till the first game of the series plays before selecting a play?
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 10:37 AM ET #5

    Yes .. starting with first games only.

    Series 1 game 1
    Tex/ bos ov9 1u
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    Yes .. starting with first games only.

    Series 1 game 1
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 10:39 AM ET #6

    I meant ov 7.5
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 11:27 AM ET #7

    Texas/Detroit ? Looks good. I've been studying the pattern of totals 
    myself and read about it. If you don't mind I could post any plays here
    Or start a new thread you could check out? If we have the same!
    Good luck. I'll be following. I'm studying now. 
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    Texas/Detroit ? Looks good. I've been studying the pattern of totals 
    myself and read about it. If you don't mind I could post any plays here
    Or start a new thread you could check out? If we have the same!
    Good luck. I'll be following. I'm studying now. 
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 1:34 PM ET #8

    Feel free to post here... im here to learn
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 1:36 PM ET #9

    Yea tex /det..
    I know its screams under this game but im looking at the series as a whole.
    Also I will not be betting unders at all, its far easier for one bullpen to screw up than 2 starters pitching gems for 3 straight games
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    Yea tex /det..
    I know its screams under this game but im looking at the series as a whole.
    Also I will not be betting unders at all, its far easier for one bullpen to screw up than 2 starters pitching gems for 3 straight games
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 1:38 PM ET #10

    Collectively with all the stats available and hot streaks with scoring we should be able to fade the 2 series that might possibly all go under.
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    Collectively with all the stats available and hot streaks with scoring we should be able to fade the 2 series that might possibly all go under.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 3:06 PM ET #11

    1-0 +50

    On to the next one
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    On to the next one
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 3:07 PM ET #12

    Might want to do at least some backtesting to see how accurate your claims are.

    Out of the 6 series that started on Tuesday, 4 of them have gone OO or UU. 

    Not saying that your idea doesn't sound profitable, but at least by backtesting you'd have so numbers to go on as opposed to blindly throwing darts.
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    Might want to do at least some backtesting to see how accurate your claims are.

    Out of the 6 series that started on Tuesday, 4 of them have gone OO or UU. 

    Not saying that your idea doesn't sound profitable, but at least by backtesting you'd have so numbers to go on as opposed to blindly throwing darts.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 3:09 PM ET #13

    Indians/orioles o8.5 1u
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 3:12 PM ET #14

    Im only going overs .. so im only fading complete under series. I dont have the time to backcheck, wouldnt even know how to start, I work in a kitchen 12 hours a day I bought mlb tv amd thats what it is. Lol. Honestly like I said if its 7 series go under at the same time thats still better than 50 percent .. and u can agree you never saw anything like that.. and the odds of that happening have to be unbelievable
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    Im only going overs .. so im only fading complete under series. I dont have the time to backcheck, wouldnt even know how to start, I work in a kitchen 12 hours a day I bought mlb tv amd thats what it is. Lol. Honestly like I said if its 7 series go under at the same time thats still better than 50 percent .. and u can agree you never saw anything like that.. and the odds of that happening have to be unbelievable
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 3:18 PM ET #15

    If u got the time , take the time and check the numbers... were on this site for a reason, try to make money. And learn from whoever seems reasonable. Im not a pro capper not eventhe close just thought something up, amd now I got a community here who can test the numbers.. so if not you maybe somebody else will do it for us
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    If u got the time , take the time and check the numbers... were on this site for a reason, try to make money. And learn from whoever seems reasonable. Im not a pro capper not eventhe close just thought something up, amd now I got a community here who can test the numbers.. so if not you maybe somebody else will do it for us
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 3:42 PM ET #16

    Would you chase for an Over on game 4 in a 4 game chase or just stop at 3 if the first 3 went under?
    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 3:58 PM ET #17

    Deff chase.. I actually feel more secure that its a 4 game series on one hand. I think it over all it actually raises your chances of winning. Because I was contemplating whether to keep it only to a 3 game series. Its up for discussion. Obv there are factors game to game too. The yankees cant score for a week now. Im not gonna blindly keep pushing the over on them. Im not even gonna touch any of their series for now. Keep in mind we are looking for series with two good power hitting teams and a match or two with mediocre/ struggling pitchers.
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    Deff chase.. I actually feel more secure that its a 4 game series on one hand. I think it over all it actually raises your chances of winning. Because I was contemplating whether to keep it only to a 3 game series. Its up for discussion. Obv there are factors game to game too. The yankees cant score for a week now. Im not gonna blindly keep pushing the over on them. Im not even gonna touch any of their series for now. Keep in mind we are looking for series with two good power hitting teams and a match or two with mediocre/ struggling pitchers.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 4:00 PM ET #18

    Im taking the cleveland orioles series because the indians completely depleted their bullpen last night. Same too detroit and look what happened to them. 5 runs two on base no out and no one warming up for them.
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    Im taking the cleveland orioles series because the indians completely depleted their bullpen last night. Same too detroit and look what happened to them. 5 runs two on base no out and no one warming up for them.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 4:11 PM ET #19

    BOL, Dough.  I'm interested on how it goes for this Over Only System.
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 4:23 PM ET #20

    I wanted to make 2 units a week honestly .. thats a success for me. Prob for everyone here actually. BUT I CAN FEEL THE GREEEED. Already..

    Im down 230 on the week with my bookie was at 420 had a good day yesterday but we square up monday and ill start fresh with only that.
    Cuz today I had the over on rangers phillies which lost. I got a hundo on rockies and oakland . And gonna drop a .5u on over baltimore like I said and a dollar on baltimore. But starting Monday ill just be betting the overs, maybe sprinkling.in some other straight bets of it seems real good. Im cool DoublingDough any which way.
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    I wanted to make 2 units a week honestly .. thats a success for me. Prob for everyone here actually. BUT I CAN FEEL THE GREEEED. Already..

    Im down 230 on the week with my bookie was at 420 had a good day yesterday but we square up monday and ill start fresh with only that.
    Cuz today I had the over on rangers phillies which lost. I got a hundo on rockies and oakland . And gonna drop a .5u on over baltimore like I said and a dollar on baltimore. But starting Monday ill just be betting the overs, maybe sprinkling.in some other straight bets of it seems real good. Im cool DoublingDough any which way.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 5:20 PM ET #21

    I ran through all the AL teams and included interleague series of 3 games or more. If there was a 2 game series home and away (4 total) I counted that as a 4 game chase. There have been 7 series that went U-U-U. Figuring -110 odds you are looking at roughly a 8.5 unit loss per 3 game chase, so 59.5 total for the 7 losses.

    There were 102 series wins, 102 unit wins - 59.5 unit losses is 42.5 units profit.

    Will give the NL and total numbers when done.

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    I ran through all the AL teams and included interleague series of 3 games or more. If there was a 2 game series home and away (4 total) I counted that as a 4 game chase. There have been 7 series that went U-U-U. Figuring -110 odds you are looking at roughly a 8.5 unit loss per 3 game chase, so 59.5 total for the 7 losses.

    There were 102 series wins, 102 unit wins - 59.5 unit losses is 42.5 units profit.

    Will give the NL and total numbers when done.

     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 5:34 PM ET #22

    You do rule Dan. Thanks a million .. also I was thinking if first game is push, then I drop series. Also if that was from this year I believe at least one of thos seven was the first series of the year. That shouldnt be counted only because vegas gotta get a grip too on. Because when I was looking through past games I dismissed first series of season. Now we reached the quarter mark and it vegas should be much better from here on out
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    You do rule Dan. Thanks a million .. also I was thinking if first game is push, then I drop series. Also if that was from this year I believe at least one of thos seven was the first series of the year. That shouldnt be counted only because vegas gotta get a grip too on. Because when I was looking through past games I dismissed first series of season. Now we reached the quarter mark and it vegas should be much better from here on out
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 5:35 PM ET #23

    I apologize for the extra words that dont make sense in my posts im using my cell and working.
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 5:39 PM ET #24

    Those numbers look great
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    Posted: May. 22, 2014 - 6:05 PM ET #25

    Im not sure if betting every series and taking the losses will work out. Lets say you go 9-6 ur up 240 with six games to chase. Then 4-2
    up 220 then 2-1 +360 you win 820 .. but if you go 8-7 +30...4-3 +140 2-1 +360 you win 530 ..
    and then you go 6-9 -360 4-5 -300 and

    5-0 +2000 = +1330
    4-1 +1160 = + 500
    3-2 +220 = -440

    Just to show the discrepancy..
    maybe im thinking of it wrong, maybe I should just bet each series amd not look at it as a set of 15 series with two possible all unders.
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    Im not sure if betting every series and taking the losses will work out. Lets say you go 9-6 ur up 240 with six games to chase. Then 4-2
    up 220 then 2-1 +360 you win 820 .. but if you go 8-7 +30...4-3 +140 2-1 +360 you win 530 ..
    and then you go 6-9 -360 4-5 -300 and

    5-0 +2000 = +1330
    4-1 +1160 = + 500
    3-2 +220 = -440

    Just to show the discrepancy..
    maybe im thinking of it wrong, maybe I should just bet each series amd not look at it as a set of 15 series with two possible all unders.
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