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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2013 - 11:21 AM ET #201

    hello

    file request an update with a file named "change a 2014.xlsm"
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    hello

    file request an update with a file named "change a 2014.xlsm"
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2013 - 6:41 AM ET #202

    Beats me...that is similar to an excel that I'm preparing for next year.  But my TR copy doesn't do that.  Just ignore that.
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    Beats me...that is similar to an excel that I'm preparing for next year.  But my TR copy doesn't do that.  Just ignore that.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2013 - 6:42 AM ET #203

    Plays for 8/5
    Official:
    Boston

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland 
    New York
    Boston
    Texas
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    Official:
    Boston

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland 
    New York
    Boston
    Texas
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2013 - 6:51 AM ET #204

    Plays for 8/5
    Official:
    Boston Loss

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland Loss
    New York Loss
    Boston Loss
    Texas Won

    Plays for 8/6
    Official:
    Boston B
    Pittsburgh

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland B
    New York B
    Boston B
    Chc
    Pittsburgh

    The other games are 2g series

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    Plays for 8/5
    Official:
    Boston Loss

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland Loss
    New York Loss
    Boston Loss
    Texas Won

    Plays for 8/6
    Official:
    Boston B
    Pittsburgh

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland B
    New York B
    Boston B
    Chc
    Pittsburgh

    The other games are 2g series

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 7:39 AM ET #205

    Plays for 8/6
    Official:
    Boston Won
    Pittsburgh Won

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland Loss
    New York Loss
    Boston Won
    Chc Loss
    Pittsburgh Won

    The other games are 2g series

    Plays for 8/7
    Official:
    none

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland C
    New York C
    Chc B





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    Plays for 8/6
    Official:
    Boston Won
    Pittsburgh Won

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland Loss
    New York Loss
    Boston Won
    Chc Loss
    Pittsburgh Won

    The other games are 2g series

    Plays for 8/7
    Official:
    none

    Unofficial:
    Cleveland C
    New York C
    Chc B





     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 8:08 AM ET #206

    Quote Originally Posted by literato:

    hello

    file request an update with a file named "change a 2014.xlsm"

    I tried to answer your PM question, but I can't cause I don't have you as a friend.  I put in a request to you to add as a friend.
      
    To answer your question, baseball was easier to figure out cause the games are grouped in a series, so if you lose the first game, you replay the same team to get another chance at winning as the rankings are based on a spread against the two teams.  
    With NBA, NHL, and NFL, you play a team once and then move on, so you really don't have another shot at the same team.  I haven't back tested anything yet, I got a promotion at work and now I'm working about 15 hours a week more, plus it's at the time I normally relax and do my sports stuff.  
    I was thinking of doing it for NBA, but stressing that it wasn't backtested totally  I have a few more months to try and get an indication on whether it's worth doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by literato:

    hello

    file request an update with a file named "change a 2014.xlsm"

    I tried to answer your PM question, but I can't cause I don't have you as a friend.  I put in a request to you to add as a friend.
      
    To answer your question, baseball was easier to figure out cause the games are grouped in a series, so if you lose the first game, you replay the same team to get another chance at winning as the rankings are based on a spread against the two teams.  
    With NBA, NHL, and NFL, you play a team once and then move on, so you really don't have another shot at the same team.  I haven't back tested anything yet, I got a promotion at work and now I'm working about 15 hours a week more, plus it's at the time I normally relax and do my sports stuff.  
    I was thinking of doing it for NBA, but stressing that it wasn't backtested totally  I have a few more months to try and get an indication on whether it's worth doing.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 11:27 AM ET #207

    Boston is an A game on the unofficial for 8/8.  cubs won, so no C bet there.  the other 2 games were c bets so win or lose, they're done. will update later
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    Boston is an A game on the unofficial for 8/8.  cubs won, so no C bet there.  the other 2 games were c bets so win or lose, they're done. will update later
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 12:06 PM ET #208

    For those that follow, I have started a backtest for NFL using the same rankings type as this thread's official plays, and also for the 'New Rankings' predictive score.  Those that have been to the web site will know what I mean.  
    I plan on going and doing a backtest on the home/away as this thread's unofficial plays are but being that the predictive scores have less losses, I thought I'd start there first.  I will let you know, on this thread, how it's going, but for the plays themselves, I will start a new NFL T/R thread.
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    For those that follow, I have started a backtest for NFL using the same rankings type as this thread's official plays, and also for the 'New Rankings' predictive score.  Those that have been to the web site will know what I mean.  
    I plan on going and doing a backtest on the home/away as this thread's unofficial plays are but being that the predictive scores have less losses, I thought I'd start there first.  I will let you know, on this thread, how it's going, but for the plays themselves, I will start a new NFL T/R thread.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 4:03 PM ET #209

    First year finished, 2003, and results not encouraging, even with a few filters.  The only thing I got out of it was on the "Official" rankings was that the Monday night games went 12-3, with no filters and the "New" type went 10-4 without filters.  The "New" rankings don't have a ranking the first week, and there was one push on Monday night.
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    First year finished, 2003, and results not encouraging, even with a few filters.  The only thing I got out of it was on the "Official" rankings was that the Monday night games went 12-3, with no filters and the "New" type went 10-4 without filters.  The "New" rankings don't have a ranking the first week, and there was one push on Monday night.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2013 - 6:38 AM ET #210

    Plays for 8/8
    Official:
    none

    Unofficial:
    Boston Loss


    Plays for 8/9
    Official:
    Det
    Cin
    Atl
    Tex
    StL

    Unofficial:
    Bos B
    Cle
    Det
    Was
    Oak
    Cin
    Atl
    Min
    Tex
    Stl
    Pit
    Sea
    Tb
    Bal
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    Plays for 8/8
    Official:
    none

    Unofficial:
    Boston Loss


    Plays for 8/9
    Official:
    Det
    Cin
    Atl
    Tex
    StL

    Unofficial:
    Bos B
    Cle
    Det
    Was
    Oak
    Cin
    Atl
    Min
    Tex
    Stl
    Pit
    Sea
    Tb
    Bal
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2013 - 6:41 AM ET #211

    ignore above plays
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2013 - 6:47 AM ET #212

    Plays for 8/8
    Official:
    none

    Unofficial:
    Boston Loss


    Plays for 8/9
    Official:
    Det
    Cin
    Atl
    Tex
    StL
    Pit
    Bal

    Unofficial:
    Bos B
    Cle
    Det
    Cin
    Atl
    Tex
    Stl
    Pit
    Tb
    Bal

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    Plays for 8/8
    Official:
    none

    Unofficial:
    Boston Loss


    Plays for 8/9
    Official:
    Det
    Cin
    Atl
    Tex
    StL
    Pit
    Bal

    Unofficial:
    Bos B
    Cle
    Det
    Cin
    Atl
    Tex
    Stl
    Pit
    Tb
    Bal

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2013 - 11:34 AM ET #213

    What's your record for official plays? No losses yet?
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    What's your record for official plays? No losses yet?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2013 - 2:20 PM ET #214

    Since I made the filter, yes, one loss.  The second line shows the line as if I started the thread on April 29th.
    Just checked, the first line are the plays from June 21st, to August 4th (I haven't the time to update yet)


    Official YTD  (Thread Only) 41-1 28.92u
    Official YTD:  108-5 74.69u
    Unofficial YTD (Thread Only) 135-12 33.98u
    Unofficial YTD 211-18 84.82u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 4

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing

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    Since I made the filter, yes, one loss.  The second line shows the line as if I started the thread on April 29th.
    Just checked, the first line are the plays from June 21st, to August 4th (I haven't the time to update yet)


    Official YTD  (Thread Only) 41-1 28.92u
    Official YTD:  108-5 74.69u
    Unofficial YTD (Thread Only) 135-12 33.98u
    Unofficial YTD 211-18 84.82u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 4

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2013 - 2:25 PM ET #215

    Plays for 8/9
    Official:
    Det Loss
    Cin Won
    Atl Won
    Tex Won
    StL Loss
    Pit Loss
    Bal Won

    Unofficial:
    Bos B Loss
    Cle Loss
    Det Loss
    Cin Win
    Atl Win
    Tex Win
    Stl Loss
    Pit Loss
    Tb Loss
    Bal Win



    Plays for 8/10
    Official:
    Det B
    StL B
    Pit B


    Unofficial:
    Bos C
    Cle B
    Det B
    Stl B
    Pit B
    Tb B




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    Plays for 8/9
    Official:
    Det Loss
    Cin Won
    Atl Won
    Tex Won
    StL Loss
    Pit Loss
    Bal Won

    Unofficial:
    Bos B Loss
    Cle Loss
    Det Loss
    Cin Win
    Atl Win
    Tex Win
    Stl Loss
    Pit Loss
    Tb Loss
    Bal Win



    Plays for 8/10
    Official:
    Det B
    StL B
    Pit B


    Unofficial:
    Bos C
    Cle B
    Det B
    Stl B
    Pit B
    Tb B




     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2013 - 2:40 PM ET #216

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:

    Since I made the filter, yes, one loss.  The second line shows the line as if I started the thread on April 29th.
    Just checked, the first line are the plays from June 21st, to August 4th (I haven't the time to update yet)


    Official YTD  (Thread Only) 41-1 28.92u
    Official YTD:  108-5 74.69u
    Unofficial YTD (Thread Only) 135-12 33.98u
    Unofficial YTD 211-18 84.82u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 4

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing



    Is this your first year tracking this system? Looks good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:

    Since I made the filter, yes, one loss.  The second line shows the line as if I started the thread on April 29th.
    Just checked, the first line are the plays from June 21st, to August 4th (I haven't the time to update yet)


    Official YTD  (Thread Only) 41-1 28.92u
    Official YTD:  108-5 74.69u
    Unofficial YTD (Thread Only) 135-12 33.98u
    Unofficial YTD 211-18 84.82u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 4

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing



    Is this your first year tracking this system? Looks good.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2013 - 3:21 PM ET #217

    also forgot to ask. your records above are just reflecting a chase on the ML for a 3 game chase right?

    your records don't include all the RL stuff mentioned on the first page of this thread right?
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    also forgot to ask. your records above are just reflecting a chase on the ML for a 3 game chase right?

    your records don't include all the RL stuff mentioned on the first page of this thread right?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2013 - 7:22 PM ET #218

    Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi:

    also forgot to ask. your records above are just reflecting a chase on the ML for a 3 game chase right?

    your records don't include all the RL stuff mentioned on the first page of this thread right?
    Yeah, this is a 3g ML chase.  The RL didn't seem to work, and being that it wasn't fully backtested, I abandoned it.  There has to be a filter.  
    Right now, I'm using a filter for all my plays on the percentage of wins that a team has on winning at the run line.  My base is 75%.  If a team scores 2+ runs more than the other team in 75% of their WINS, I will play the RL along with the ML, unless there's too much juice. Then it's just the RL

    To your first question, yeah it's my first year.  It's actually my first year wagering on MLB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi:

    also forgot to ask. your records above are just reflecting a chase on the ML for a 3 game chase right?

    your records don't include all the RL stuff mentioned on the first page of this thread right?
    Yeah, this is a 3g ML chase.  The RL didn't seem to work, and being that it wasn't fully backtested, I abandoned it.  There has to be a filter.  
    Right now, I'm using a filter for all my plays on the percentage of wins that a team has on winning at the run line.  My base is 75%.  If a team scores 2+ runs more than the other team in 75% of their WINS, I will play the RL along with the ML, unless there's too much juice. Then it's just the RL

    To your first question, yeah it's my first year.  It's actually my first year wagering on MLB.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2013 - 7:26 PM ET #219

    Nice. Good stuff man
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    Nice. Good stuff man
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2013 - 12:37 PM ET #220

    Plays for 8/10
    Official:
    Det Win
    StL Loss
    Pit Loss


    Unofficial:
    Bos Win
    Cle Loss
    Det Win
    Stl Loss
    Pit Loss
    Tb Loss

    Plays for 8/11
    Official:
    StL C
    Pit C


    Unofficial:
    Cle C
    Stl C
    Pit C
    Tb C

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    Plays for 8/10
    Official:
    Det Win
    StL Loss
    Pit Loss


    Unofficial:
    Bos Win
    Cle Loss
    Det Win
    Stl Loss
    Pit Loss
    Tb Loss

    Plays for 8/11
    Official:
    StL C
    Pit C


    Unofficial:
    Cle C
    Stl C
    Pit C
    Tb C

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2013 - 2:21 PM ET #221

    Through August 8th (2 losses on Unofficial, this series), does not count any ongoing series already won Friday or Saturday this past weekend.


    Official YTD 43-1 +30.92u (Thread Only)
    Official YTD:  110-5, +76.69u
    Unofficial YTD 139-14 24.66u (Thread Only)
    Unofficial YTD 215-20 +75.5u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 4

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing

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    Through August 8th (2 losses on Unofficial, this series), does not count any ongoing series already won Friday or Saturday this past weekend.


    Official YTD 43-1 +30.92u (Thread Only)
    Official YTD:  110-5, +76.69u
    Unofficial YTD 139-14 24.66u (Thread Only)
    Unofficial YTD 215-20 +75.5u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 4

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2013 - 7:08 AM ET #222

    Plays for 8/11
    Official:
    StL Win
    Pit LOSS  


    Unofficial:
    Cle Win
    Stl Win
    Pit Loss
    Tb Loss

    Plays for 8/12
    Official:
    Atl
    Det
    Kc


    Unofficial:
    Atl
    Cin
    Det
    Kc
    Cle
    Col
    Bal


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    Plays for 8/11
    Official:
    StL Win
    Pit LOSS  


    Unofficial:
    Cle Win
    Stl Win
    Pit Loss
    Tb Loss

    Plays for 8/12
    Official:
    Atl
    Det
    Kc


    Unofficial:
    Atl
    Cin
    Det
    Kc
    Cle
    Col
    Bal


     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2013 - 7:17 AM ET #223

    Through 8/11

    Official YTD  (Thread Only) 49-2 25.40u
    Official YTD:  116-6 71.17u
    Unofficial YTD (Thread Only) 147-16 12.34u
    Unofficial YTD 223-22 63.18u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 5

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing

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    Through 8/11

    Official YTD  (Thread Only) 49-2 25.40u
    Official YTD:  116-6 71.17u
    Unofficial YTD (Thread Only) 147-16 12.34u
    Unofficial YTD 223-22 63.18u

    Post #91 for the difference in Official/Unofficial

    *Based on Covers' closing line

    Link to current spreadsheet:  Version 5

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZblZxaktiYXNIelE/edit?usp=sharing

     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 6:46 AM ET #224

    Being this wasn't fully backtested, and with the loss of Pittsburgh last week and Detroit going to a game C today....I'm going to call it a season.  If anyone wants to continue posting the plays or following through with the spreadsheet, go ahead.
    We'll do this all again, next year.  I will have it fully backtested and I will start it checking from the beginning of the season to the end, to see if we can start earlier and go later.
    I will check on how the -1.5rl does.
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    Being this wasn't fully backtested, and with the loss of Pittsburgh last week and Detroit going to a game C today....I'm going to call it a season.  If anyone wants to continue posting the plays or following through with the spreadsheet, go ahead.
    We'll do this all again, next year.  I will have it fully backtested and I will start it checking from the beginning of the season to the end, to see if we can start earlier and go later.
    I will check on how the -1.5rl does.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 6:53 AM ET #225

    I have completed a year's input for NFL with the rankings from TR in 2003, and I haven't gotten much except for that Monday Night went 12-3 with one push.  I'm halfway through 2012 and no filter seems to work from one week to next.  I have a couple more ideas to check.  If these don't work, I'm moving on to NBA, I know of a couple of systems that work there, I just have to jog my memory on how it goes
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    I have completed a year's input for NFL with the rankings from TR in 2003, and I haven't gotten much except for that Monday Night went 12-3 with one push.  I'm halfway through 2012 and no filter seems to work from one week to next.  I have a couple more ideas to check.  If these don't work, I'm moving on to NBA, I know of a couple of systems that work there, I just have to jog my memory on how it goes
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