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Looking for a good NBA/MLB  system to purchase, anybody help me out with some names of services?  Thanks.

MarlonB · Answer

Looking for a good NBA/MLB  system to purchase, anybody help me out with some names of services?  Thanks.

wizardofroz · Answer

Pick ANY service out of a hat, as they are all equally worthless.  And pay a lot for their disservice so the pain causes you to never purchase picks again like I did in my idiotic stupor many years ago.

MarlonB · Answer

Wizard, thanks for the response, I keep hearing about system plays but I can never get any info.  That&#x27;s why I came on here to ask some questions.  Tired of losing.

MarlonB · Answer

Hey Wizard, reading some of the archives people are always talking shit about this guy Morrison, but you have a few guys saying his system works, what gives?

JoshLewis · Answer

There was a guy known as Sawyer iirc. He was posting his MLB System plays in statfox forum. Take a look and search, you may find it interesting. His system was +54 units after the allstar break. (betting 1 unit per game)

MarlonB · Answer

Thanks Josh, I&#x27;ll check that out.

MarlonB · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by MarlonB] &#xD;&#xA;Hey Wizard, reading some of the archives people are always talking shit about this guy Morrison, but you have a few guys saying his system works, what gives?&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Can anyone respond on this guy Morrison, I wrote the above earlier and haven&#x27;t heard back from Wizard.

GetMeResults · Answer

Just pick &#x27;em yourself, then you only have one person to blame!!!

cpk007 · Answer

Marlon...I&#x27;ve tried 3.   I tried morrisons thing last summer and got crushed....baskets has been betterI tried Right Angle Sports because I heard they had good totals....it started hot but has faded back to a few units to the gooda few people on here referred me to covers member "PSIC" and I recently bought his book and daily email program.  It is interesting and provided systems I haven&#x27;t seen anywhere else  along with a lot of back up stats but it&#x27;s way too early to judge so I&#x27;ll keep you posted on that performance.If this doesn&#x27;t work I&#x27;m going to have to side with wizzard of oz

Lippsman · Answer

Don&#x27;t ever use a chase system.  Which what most systems are, including Morrison.  Or even worse, chase and buy points that make you lay like -180 a game&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;RAS is quite good.  His sides started out pretty bad but the totals smoked.  But as cpkoo7 said they have been a .500 prop the last few weeks

Lippsman · Answer

Actually most systems are not chase systems.  But the ones that you see that claim that are like 90 and 1 are chase systems

GetMeResults · Answer

Hey Lipps, I used ras this year and last year, last year we made a total of &#x2B;18 units at the end of the season.  This year is alittle different though, I&#x27;m up &#x2B;5 units as we speak, it&#x27;s harder than hell to get the line he releases.  What do you do?  How do you get the number?  Bookmaker will move 3 points before you can even find the rotation number on the freak&#x27;in page!  Give me something Lipps!

Diamondjake · Answer

My advise is not a system but will make you money. I play my own stuff small and loose. But I bankroll with Dave Malinsky at covers. I have been with Dave for almost two years. Last year he showed a profit in every sport he plays. The key is money mangement. If you have a 20K bankroll....play 200 on 4stars 250 on 5stars and 300 on 6stars. The reason people quit using the cappers on this site is because expectations are unrealistic. If a guy hits 56% long term you make money with sound play.....but Dave has brutal months where you get smoked and people jump off the bus. Dont believe me...track him for a year. Plays are posted on web everyday after they are played with dollar amounts. I recoed everything and never press. It is all business. Good luck.

kingme · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by Diamondjake] &#xD;&#xA;My advise is not a system but will make you money. I play my own stuff small and loose. But I bankroll with Dave Malinsky at covers. I have been with Dave for almost two years. Last year he showed a profit in every sport he plays. The key is money mangement. If you have a 20K bankroll....play 200 on 4stars 250 on 5stars and 300 on 6stars. The reason people quit using the cappers on this site is because expectations are unrealistic. If a guy hits 56% long term you make money with sound play.....but Dave has brutal months where you get smoked and people jump off the bus. Dont believe me...track him for a year. Plays are posted on web everyday after they are played with dollar amounts. I recoed everything and never press. It is all business. Good luck.    &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Good advice... I don&#x27;t know about this guy at all... but in terms of money mangement.  But you are talking about playing only 1% per unit.  This is smart and will last, but I personally think its a bit too conservative.&#xD;&#xA;If you cannot make long term profits using 2-4% units, you are not doing something right.

MarlonB · Answer

DiamondJake &#xD;&#xA;i just don&#x27;t have the patience for 56% i know reality says that no one is going to win all their games or even 70% is real hard to do and maybe thats even unrealistic in itself. I&#x27;ve used guys like Marc Lawrence, Brian Gabrielle and some others and they are good but just looking for something different that might get the results that I keep hearing about. Thanks for the advise i&#x27;m going to keep reserching these system guys and i&#x27;ll hopefully be able to report back with some news.

wizardofroz · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by MarlonB] &#xD;&#xA;Hey Wizard, reading some of the archives people are always talking shit about this guy Morrison, but you have a few guys saying his system works, what gives?&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;Any chase system like Morrison&#x27;s, Martingale, etc. will eventually have you betting a lot of money just to recoup earlier losses.  And when the consecutive losses mount during a bad run, you will lose your ENTIRE bankroll.  So don&#x27;t believe that these systems are 90-5, 80-2, etc.  They conveniently forget about their losses.  In all actuality, they are hovering at or below 50% wins.&#xD;&#xA;Do your OWN handicapping and follow the advice of some of the better cappers here for free.  But remember to blame only yourself for your losses and realize that very few people, if any, make consistent money gambling on anything.  &#xD;&#xA;One more thing:  limit your plays to the play that you think has the best chance of winning, and try to isolate underdogs that you think will win outright.

wizardofroz · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by MarlonB] &#xD;&#xA;DiamondJake &#xD;&#xA;i just don&#x27;t have the patience for 56% i know reality says that no one is going to win all their games or even 70% is real hard to do and maybe thats even unrealistic in itself. I&#x27;ve used guys like Marc Lawrence, Brian Gabrielle and some others and they are good but just looking for something different that might get the results that I keep hearing about. Thanks for the advise i&#x27;m going to keep reserching these system guys and i&#x27;ll hopefully be able to report back with some news. &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;If you don&#x27;t have the patience for 56%, don&#x27;t gamble.  I&#x27;d say less than 1% of all services hit 56% or better in the long run.  And paying anyone for their picks makes it almost impossible to profit after they take their cut. &#xD;&#xA;Since you are unrealistic about this unforgiving thing called gambling, find the most expensive service you can to donate your money to so you never have the urge to do so again.

MarlonB · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by cpk007] Marlon...I&#x27;ve tried 3.   I tried morrisons thing last summer and got crushed....baskets has been betterI tried Right Angle Sports because I heard they had good totals....it started hot but has faded back to a few units to the gooda few people on here referred me to covers member "PSIC" and I recently bought his book and daily email program.  It is interesting and provided systems I haven&#x27;t seen anywhere else  along with a lot of back up stats but it&#x27;s way too early to judge so I&#x27;ll keep you posted on that performance.If this doesn&#x27;t work I&#x27;m going to have to side with wizzard of oz&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;CPK, what&#x27;s that stand for anyway? California Pizza Kitchen? Sorry i couldn&#x27;t resist.  Thanks for the reply.  So tell me if you don;t mind what is Morrison&#x27;s record so far in the NBA?  As for RAS, after hearing about the &#x2B;5 units so far, well no thanks. I did some reserch on your PSIC guy and he has alot of archives in here on covers.  How does that guy know all the shit he knows? I was reading for hours last night, pretty interesting, and thanks now my wife is pissed at me for being on the computer all night (instead of watching Marley &amp; Me with her). lol  Well please let me know about PSIC-O (more humor) and Morrisons record and let me know about his MLB record as well even though you said you got crushed, baseball&#x27;s right around the corner. Thanks.

MarlonB · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by wizardofroz] &#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;If you don&#x27;t have the patience for 56%, don&#x27;t gamble.  I&#x27;d say less than 1% of all services hit 56% or better in the long run.  And paying anyone for their picks makes it almost impossible to profit after they take their cut. &#xD;&#xA;Since you are unrealistic about this unforgiving thing called gambling, find the most expensive service you can to donate your money to so you never have the urge to do so again.   &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Wizard there has to be someone out there that is hitting at a respectable winning %. i just looked at RAS website and he says he&#x27;s doing 62% on his totals even though one of the other guys said they were only up &#x2B;5 units.  i just think there has to be someone better than myself because flipping a coin just isn&#x27;t working anymore. Got to go to work.&#xD;&#xA;Thanks and later on.

cpk007 · Answer

California pizza kitchen....marlon how did you guess:&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;In the NBA Morrison is like 39-1.  He advertises 40-0 or whatever but we did have a loss...the very first play of the year...he just blew it off.   As for baseball when I say 7 losses I mean we lost the "C" game 7 times so it was ugly...I guess after the fact he added some filter and just pretended that those losses never happened.&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;As for PSIC I think he spent time in the casino biz..... in the book I bought he has a whole breakdown of money management and much like what Lippsman says he STRONGLY recommends to stay away from chasing and recommens 2% to 4% as a starting point.   ...again it is much more in depth than other things ive purchased but the results are what counts so I&#x27;ll let you know..so far so good

24themoney13 · Answer

There are ways to win with Morrison&#x27;s system and NOT chase. I have a system that is similar to Morrison&#x27;s system but it gives you more betting opportunities in a given year. Morrison&#x27;s system has about 80 betting opportunities in the NBA this year. My system has right at 250. You can either chase with his system or with mine. Or if you want to play it smart only bet on the "B" bets. Those bets win 78% of the time. That has been tracked by me since the first of the year. I&#x27;m actually thinking of selling my picks every time "B" picks come into play. But for now I&#x27;ll give you this Free adivce. If you only bet the "B" bets with no chase you will have won almost 80% of the time this year and I&#x27;m currently tracking from the previous years.

MarlonB · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by cpk007] &#xD;&#xA;California pizza kitchen....marlon how did you guess:&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;In the NBA Morrison is like 39-1.  He advertises 40-0 or whatever but we did have a loss...the very first play of the year...he just blew it off.   As for baseball when I say 7 losses I mean we lost the "C" game 7 times so it was ugly...I guess after the fact he added some filter and just pretended that those losses never happened.&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;As for PSIC I think he spent time in the casino biz..... in the book I bought he has a whole breakdown of money management and much like what Lippsman says he STRONGLY recommends to stay away from chasing and recommens 2% to 4% as a starting point.   ...again it is much more in depth than other things ive purchased but the results are what counts so I&#x27;ll let you know..so far so good&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;How did your PSIC guy do last night in the NBA?  By the way, what does that stand for?  I know it&#x27;s not for PSIC-O right?

MarlonB · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by 24themoney13] &#xD;&#xA;There are ways to win with Morrison&#x27;s system and NOT chase. I have a system that is similar to Morrison&#x27;s system but it gives you more betting opportunities in a given year. Morrison&#x27;s system has about 80 betting opportunities in the NBA this year. My system has right at 250. You can either chase with his system or with mine. Or if you want to play it smart only bet on the "B" bets. Those bets win 78% of the time. That has been tracked by me since the first of the year. I&#x27;m actually thinking of selling my picks every time "B" picks come into play. But for now I&#x27;ll give you this Free adivce. If you only bet the "B" bets with no chase you will have won almost 80% of the time this year and I&#x27;m currently tracking from the previous years. &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Cool,&#xD;&#xA;What did you play last night and what are your plays for today?&#xD;&#xA;Do you post them somewhere else or here in this forum? Thanks.

24themoney13 · Answer

I had 5 plays last night and they all won. 3 of them were A bets that I neglected to post. But anyways they all won. Look under systems and strategies I have a thread called "I have a system I&#x27;ve been working on THAT WORKS!!" Read through the entire thread I just started it 4 dqays ago and we&#x27;re up 17.4 units. The plays for tonight are Houston and Atlanta in the NBA but you need to buy 3 points on each game. Houston is the stronger play.

Lippsman · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by 24themoney13] &#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;The plays for tonight are Houston and Atlanta in the NBA but you need to buy 3 points on each game. Houston is the stronger play. &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Yes, that would be the John Morrison system.

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