Quote Originally Posted by smdio:
You got something backwards here:
Parlaymakers and Pinnacle (both are affiliated with each other, only Parlaymakers accepts US customers though) offer what's called "low juice lines" instead of bonuses. You can still choose to have bonuses on deposits instead of the low juice lines, but the bonuses always come with strings attached, so I opt for the lower juice lines.
I usually get them roughly 5 cents cheaper than any other line I see advertised, and I typically check 5dimes, betUS, betED, thegreek, and bodog. On the rare occasion that one of those books have a lower line than Parlaymakers, you simply contact someone in their live chat department, and they'll beat the line from the other book usually by 3 cents.
I run my wagers slightly different than Thinker with his $45 base bets. I'm still on a $20 base bet, and I plan to double the bets once I achieve a certain profit (which I'm close to now). So yesterday, I made roughly 2.4 units with the lines I received. If you are following Thinkers $45 base bet, I think it equates to roughly $115
Never mind, confirmed the answer myself. According to parlaymaker they are not affiliated each other. I have attached the blog below from parlaymakers website. The following is a response to some posters at another forum and I have highlighted where they say that they are not affiliated with Pinnacle
"Why we don’t offer a confirm on Final price
Why We Don’t Offer A Confirm on Final Price
There has been a lot of fuss about ParlayMakers at the SBR forums, and it’s both exciting and frustrating. On the one hand we’re finally getting discussed and a lot of U.S. players are coming to see that they can bet Pinnacle’s menu at Pinnacle’s prices plus a two percent transaction fee on winnings. It’s indisputably a good comparative deal for US-based bettors, and based on forum discussions a lot of them are starting to realize it.
On the other hand we’re getting pounded on the fact that we give the current Pinnacle price even after the customer has confirmed a bet at next to last Pinnacle price. In worst case scenarios that means our customers might confirm a bet at -104, only to have the ticket written at -106. Most lines most of the time aren’t in a volatile state, so it doesn’t happen often. But it does happen, and perhaps we haven’t done a good enough job of explaining why.
The whole idea behind ParlayMakers is to offer the same lines as Pinnacle to U.S. customers. Keep in mind that we are not affiliated with Pinnacle but we do copy their lines. Pinnacle makes this possible by putting their lines out on a real time basis through an XML feed for anyone who wants to to use it. That XML feed is what our software is built around. So the lines that you see are Pinnacle’s lines, as we get them with a slight delay. So when a customer confirms a bet, our software double checks to make sure that it’s still the same line as Pinnacle—and if it’s not, the software gives him the most current updated line.
This drives a lot of customers, especially those who have never played with us and don’t realize how seldom it happens, crazy. SBR poster Hareeba! states their point of view:
No, my complaint is simply that you can substitute without warning a different price to the offer you put up and which a player accepts.
No other bookie I’ve ever come across does that and all the punters of my acquaintance would regard that as totally unacceptable.
Why, other reasonable posters ask, can’t you give us a chance to confirm the new price? It seems weird to agree to one price, and then get another no matter how rarely it happens. The answer is that in the time it would take to “confirm” a bet the Pinnacle line could change again. So a shot-taker could make a bet, refresh the Pinnacle line in another tab, and then “Confirm” the bet if and only if it was to his advantage. There’s an infinite regress problem here. A “Confirm” is always going to take a few seconds plus however many seconds a customer takes to click it—and in that time the Pinnacle line can change.
It seems the greatest fear that bettors have is that ParlayMakers will take shots at them. SBR stalwart Dark Horse puts this fear succinctly:
PM can get any middles they want. No questions asked. And assurances that they won’t cash in on the advantage, instead of clearing up the process that is critized here, border on ludicrous.
Dark Horse is not a customer, and so it’s a little frustrating to have to explain to him that it’s not in our interest to take shots at players—after all, he’s not going to believe us or give us a chance to earn his trust. So we seem to be stuck repeating over and over, “but you’re getting the latest Pinnacle line!” All we’ll add here to our existing customers is that if you get a line other than the one you agreed to and you have Pinnacle open in another tab, refresh the line there and you will see that we have given you the latest Pinnacle line. That’s our product. It’s also our promise, but you don’t have to believe us because you can check up on us by checking to make sure the line you got from us is the current Pinnacle line.
Poster Hareeba! writes, “No other bookie I’ve ever come across does that”—and he’s right. But no other sportsbook has ever been built explicitly to help bettors whose politicians have cut them off from playing at the best sportsbook in the world."
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