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    usakangy
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 11:09 PM ET #76

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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 12:31 AM ET #77

    this is what I have come up with teams that have stats that have a Goals scored are 80 goal scored or 80 goals against or a 20 difference in goals scored  or allowed will not be in the NHL spoiler in Overtime if they get in overtime.
    Teams we need to eliminate
    NY Islanders 65 goals scored 80 allowed
    Toronto  76 goals scored 88 goals allowed
    Tampa Bay 56 goals scored 76 goals allowed
    Atlanta     72 goals scored and 92 allowed
    Dallas     68 goals scored and 87 allowed
    Detroit     84 goals scored and 71 allowed
    San Jose 97goals scored 59 allowed
    Boston    82 goals scored 55 allowed
    Washington 80 goals scored 80 allowed
    I think this will eliminate and over scoring any thoughts on this?
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    this is what I have come up with teams that have stats that have a Goals scored are 80 goal scored or 80 goals against or a 20 difference in goals scored  or allowed will not be in the NHL spoiler in Overtime if they get in overtime.
    Teams we need to eliminate
    NY Islanders 65 goals scored 80 allowed
    Toronto  76 goals scored 88 goals allowed
    Tampa Bay 56 goals scored 76 goals allowed
    Atlanta     72 goals scored and 92 allowed
    Dallas     68 goals scored and 87 allowed
    Detroit     84 goals scored and 71 allowed
    San Jose 97goals scored 59 allowed
    Boston    82 goals scored 55 allowed
    Washington 80 goals scored 80 allowed
    I think this will eliminate and over scoring any thoughts on this?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 12:44 AM ET #78

    your the nhl man...is it possible if you could post the plays in bold or something so it easier to find..with all the teams and #s i am getting lost since im new to the NHL lol
     
    btw i opened an acct at 5 dimes just for these two systems!
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    your the nhl man...is it possible if you could post the plays in bold or something so it easier to find..with all the teams and #s i am getting lost since im new to the NHL lol
     
    btw i opened an acct at 5 dimes just for these two systems!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 1:28 AM ET #79

     Ok  tomorrows plays since the new elimination teams
    we still have 6 wins tonight we had lost with Atlanta going over the 3rd time in a row so the mark goes to 6 wins and 1 loss
    December 4 games to play under
    NY Rangers
    Montreal      5.5

    NJ
    Phil    5.5

    Pitt
    Carolina    5.5

    Buffalo
    Florida      5.5

    Good Luck as always
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     Ok  tomorrows plays since the new elimination teams
    we still have 6 wins tonight we had lost with Atlanta going over the 3rd time in a row so the mark goes to 6 wins and 1 loss
    December 4 games to play under
    NY Rangers
    Montreal      5.5

    NJ
    Phil    5.5

    Pitt
    Carolina    5.5

    Buffalo
    Florida      5.5

    Good Luck as always
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 8:23 AM ET #80

    I like the idea of filtering out that list of teams Now the system is more suitable for long winning streaks. Now that you have that and you re ignoring the under 5, I see only bad luck as a reason why the system could lose big time.

    BOL with all the plays .

    And, for those who are following, I think expertcapper mentioned how new this system was so keep that in mind. Always best to track and edit before going all in and investing money.
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    I like the idea of filtering out that list of teams Now the system is more suitable for long winning streaks. Now that you have that and you re ignoring the under 5, I see only bad luck as a reason why the system could lose big time.

    BOL with all the plays .

    And, for those who are following, I think expertcapper mentioned how new this system was so keep that in mind. Always best to track and edit before going all in and investing money.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 12:13 PM ET #81

    One quick note about the elimination of teams. It might have been better to calculate a number relative to the amount of games played.

    Something like   (GF + GA) / # of games for each team to see how many games you could expect to see go under 5.5 .

    Then remove the top 10 perhaps to reduce your chances of losing because of three consecutive overs. However, this might considerable reduce the number of games you get to play since every time you see one of those 10 teams, you need to lay off the game.  Unless you lay off the game only if both teams are in the top 15 which would make for an interesting variation.

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    One quick note about the elimination of teams. It might have been better to calculate a number relative to the amount of games played.

    Something like   (GF + GA) / # of games for each team to see how many games you could expect to see go under 5.5 .

    Then remove the top 10 perhaps to reduce your chances of losing because of three consecutive overs. However, this might considerable reduce the number of games you get to play since every time you see one of those 10 teams, you need to lay off the game.  Unless you lay off the game only if both teams are in the top 15 which would make for an interesting variation.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 12:39 PM ET #82

    i think i might have to jump on this....great research expert.
     
     
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    i think i might have to jump on this....great research expert.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 2:24 PM ET #83

    Each one of these teams have 80 goals scored or gainst or they have a 20 difference in scoring or against I think this is a good strategy.

    Teams we need to eliminate
    NY Islanders 65 goals scored 80 allowed
    Toronto  76 goals scored 88 goals allowed
    Tampa Bay 56 goals scored 76 goals allowed
    Atlanta     72 goals scored and 92 allowed
    Dallas     68 goals scored and 87 allowed
    Detroit     84 goals scored and 71 allowed
    San Jose 97goals scored 59 allowed
    Boston    82 goals scored 55 allowed
    Washington 80 goals scored 80 allowed
    I think this is close to the criteria you are explaining.I am jts saying that any of these teams goes into overtime we should eliminate them there is 9 teams there
    Hope this helps
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    Each one of these teams have 80 goals scored or gainst or they have a 20 difference in scoring or against I think this is a good strategy.

    Teams we need to eliminate
    NY Islanders 65 goals scored 80 allowed
    Toronto  76 goals scored 88 goals allowed
    Tampa Bay 56 goals scored 76 goals allowed
    Atlanta     72 goals scored and 92 allowed
    Dallas     68 goals scored and 87 allowed
    Detroit     84 goals scored and 71 allowed
    San Jose 97goals scored 59 allowed
    Boston    82 goals scored 55 allowed
    Washington 80 goals scored 80 allowed
    I think this is close to the criteria you are explaining.I am jts saying that any of these teams goes into overtime we should eliminate them there is 9 teams there
    Hope this helps
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 1:51 AM ET #84

    Tonight we get 2 more wins with Buffalo and Florida going under and NJ and Phil going under.making us with 8 wins 1 loss with another game we will be following NJ and Phil going into overtime
    which we also had 2 teams NY Rangers and Pittsburgh go over the total as well leading them into chasing these teams for the next 2 games
    Final
    NY Rangers  2
    Montreal      6

    Final O.T.
    NJ     3
    Phil    2

    Final
    Pitt             5
    Carolina    2

    Final
    Buffalo       1
    Florida      2


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    Tonight we get 2 more wins with Buffalo and Florida going under and NJ and Phil going under.making us with 8 wins 1 loss with another game we will be following NJ and Phil going into overtime
    which we also had 2 teams NY Rangers and Pittsburgh go over the total as well leading them into chasing these teams for the next 2 games
    Final
    NY Rangers  2
    Montreal      6

    Final O.T.
    NJ     3
    Phil    2

    Final
    Pitt             5
    Carolina    2

    Final
    Buffalo       1
    Florida      2


     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 1:59 AM ET #85

    Nothing on the schedule for Friday December 5 for games in the NHL spoiler so enjoy and Happy Holidays. I have noticed since I have started this NHL spoiler you have not seen may O.T. Games,now with NHL games eliminated we should be able to not get confused so much.
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    Nothing on the schedule for Friday December 5 for games in the NHL spoiler so enjoy and Happy Holidays. I have noticed since I have started this NHL spoiler you have not seen may O.T. Games,now with NHL games eliminated we should be able to not get confused so much.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 11:42 AM ET #86

    you know, if you quit the chase after 3 games you have to win 8 and lose one just to break even. So something like a record of 40-5 would only net just over 1 unit all season long.
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    you know, if you quit the chase after 3 games you have to win 8 and lose one just to break even. So something like a record of 40-5 would only net just over 1 unit all season long.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 1:35 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by CrappieMaster:

    you know, if you quit the chase after 3 games you have to win 8 and lose one just to break even. So something like a record of 40-5 would only net just over 1 unit all season long.


    This is true by the very nature of the martingale system. Which is why it's important to optimize the system by determining a filter that would reduce the losses and maximize the number of wins.

     Only way to do so is to keep track of what is going on and then applying a filter that could help optimize the system.

    My guess is that its gonna be very hard to get this one functional because over/unders have been very erratic in the NHL for the past couple of years. Mainly because of the rule changes and the changed philosophy of the league to increase scoring.

    I'm still interested in seeing what the final record will be here but as I said, I'm not convinced that it will show a large profit by the end of the season unless changes are made to the criteria of selection.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappieMaster:

    you know, if you quit the chase after 3 games you have to win 8 and lose one just to break even. So something like a record of 40-5 would only net just over 1 unit all season long.


    This is true by the very nature of the martingale system. Which is why it's important to optimize the system by determining a filter that would reduce the losses and maximize the number of wins.

     Only way to do so is to keep track of what is going on and then applying a filter that could help optimize the system.

    My guess is that its gonna be very hard to get this one functional because over/unders have been very erratic in the NHL for the past couple of years. Mainly because of the rule changes and the changed philosophy of the league to increase scoring.

    I'm still interested in seeing what the final record will be here but as I said, I'm not convinced that it will show a large profit by the end of the season unless changes are made to the criteria of selection.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 1:50 PM ET #88

    Just like the elithepunk said CrappieMaster we are just trying a strategy , do not lay money on this yet its just like an experiment, if it works we will apply this next year , always try something first NEVER rush into it and always filter when you are experimenting. It take discipline and money mangement which hardly no one ever has. I read an article that 2% of the gamblers have discipline and money mangement thats why 98% of the people never make mnoey. You need to have a system that will work before applying any money.  Of the 98 % of the gamblers do it as entertainment and the other 2% do it as an investment. Thanks for the input though CrappieMaster your ideas or comments are always appreciated. Thanks
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    Just like the elithepunk said CrappieMaster we are just trying a strategy , do not lay money on this yet its just like an experiment, if it works we will apply this next year , always try something first NEVER rush into it and always filter when you are experimenting. It take discipline and money mangement which hardly no one ever has. I read an article that 2% of the gamblers have discipline and money mangement thats why 98% of the people never make mnoey. You need to have a system that will work before applying any money.  Of the 98 % of the gamblers do it as entertainment and the other 2% do it as an investment. Thanks for the input though CrappieMaster your ideas or comments are always appreciated. Thanks
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 1:59 PM ET #89

    Speaking of which, expertcapper - will you be tracking until an under hits or stopping at 3 as you had suggested?

    Meaning, as you document the system, will you still be able to tell me for how many consecutive games after an overtime game a certain team went over all the time or will you stop keeping track once they get to the 3rd game and still go over?


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    Speaking of which, expertcapper - will you be tracking until an under hits or stopping at 3 as you had suggested?

    Meaning, as you document the system, will you still be able to tell me for how many consecutive games after an overtime game a certain team went over all the time or will you stop keeping track once they get to the 3rd game and still go over?


     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 2:01 PM ET #90

    gents, i think it's possible that I may have a quality filter to add for this.
     
    i've been tracking a seperate system, before elithepunk introduced me to this forum.  my system is simple, but very very new.  i'm 6-1 this week, and i only started this week.  so way too early to apply, but something to watch for.
     
    any time the visiting team has played 3 games, or more, in the past 5 days of the calendar, those games always go over.  I called NY/MTL and the PIT/CAR game for over.  a similar relationship exists w/ B2B visitors, but not the exact same.
     
    tonight, i've got COL/DAL and VAN/MIN over, due to B2B visitors.  however, I have no 3 game visitors, which seems to be the main factor.
     
    I'll keep you informed...and perhaps start a new thread?
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    gents, i think it's possible that I may have a quality filter to add for this.
     
    i've been tracking a seperate system, before elithepunk introduced me to this forum.  my system is simple, but very very new.  i'm 6-1 this week, and i only started this week.  so way too early to apply, but something to watch for.
     
    any time the visiting team has played 3 games, or more, in the past 5 days of the calendar, those games always go over.  I called NY/MTL and the PIT/CAR game for over.  a similar relationship exists w/ B2B visitors, but not the exact same.
     
    tonight, i've got COL/DAL and VAN/MIN over, due to B2B visitors.  however, I have no 3 game visitors, which seems to be the main factor.
     
    I'll keep you informed...and perhaps start a new thread?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 2:02 PM ET #91

    and, I'll track this system from last season too.
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    and, I'll track this system from last season too.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 2:11 PM ET #92

    ....well...I am playing the system...$$$$

    last night I won the 3rd game in the SJ series for 4units under...

    won 2 & lost 2 others...

    ....essentially +1unit for the night...

    i have put into play ..OVER @ line of 5. ...under @5.5

    I will probably stay with it for a while since I am still winning

     

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    ....well...I am playing the system...$$$$

    last night I won the 3rd game in the SJ series for 4units under...

    won 2 & lost 2 others...

    ....essentially +1unit for the night...

    i have put into play ..OVER @ line of 5. ...under @5.5

    I will probably stay with it for a while since I am still winning

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 2:11 PM ET #93

    hey Uno  ( mind if I call you like this ? )

    glad you made it here ... always interesting to see what others think

    start a topic right here in this section of the forum to track your system ... its the best place to do so because it doesn't get too crowded and you can keep a record of whats going on easily

    I'll comment in your thread
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    hey Uno  ( mind if I call you like this ? )

    glad you made it here ... always interesting to see what others think

    start a topic right here in this section of the forum to track your system ... its the best place to do so because it doesn't get too crowded and you can keep a record of whats going on easily

    I'll comment in your thread
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 2:26 PM ET #94

    Eli I will stopping at 3 and count my losses.
    Unohuim  thanks for sharing in this forum. You have a very good point at it really stands out. If they play several games they have to be tired in such a short span or B2B. I hope you can start another thread so we can watch this strategy over a period of time.Thanks again for sharing that. I will be watching the Col/Dallas and the Van/ Minn games
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    Eli I will stopping at 3 and count my losses.
    Unohuim  thanks for sharing in this forum. You have a very good point at it really stands out. If they play several games they have to be tired in such a short span or B2B. I hope you can start another thread so we can watch this strategy over a period of time.Thanks again for sharing that. I will be watching the Col/Dallas and the Van/ Minn games
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 2:33 PM ET #95

    sure, i'll start one.
     
    if anyone watched the phx/tor game last night,they would have seen a very enthusiastic yet very very fatigued and sloppy maple leaf team.
     
    so many mistakes were too much for a streaking toskela.  even he threw one out of the park, to get a delay of game.
     
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    sure, i'll start one.
     
    if anyone watched the phx/tor game last night,they would have seen a very enthusiastic yet very very fatigued and sloppy maple leaf team.
     
    so many mistakes were too much for a streaking toskela.  even he threw one out of the park, to get a delay of game.
     
    cheers
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 12:33 AM ET #96

    Well December 6  we have a few games to watch for the NHL Spoiler go UNDER

    Pitt
    Ottawa  5.5

    Phil
    Carolina  5.5

    NJ
    Montreal  5.5

    Phoenix
    St. Louis    5.5
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    Well December 6  we have a few games to watch for the NHL Spoiler go UNDER

    Pitt
    Ottawa  5.5

    Phil
    Carolina  5.5

    NJ
    Montreal  5.5

    Phoenix
    St. Louis    5.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 1:01 AM ET #97

    ...that is exactly the plays that I have for tomorrow...
     
    Pit/Ott is a 2 unit play for me and the rest are 1 unit plays
     
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    ...that is exactly the plays that I have for tomorrow...
     
    Pit/Ott is a 2 unit play for me and the rest are 1 unit plays
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 1:08 AM ET #98

    Another game went to overtime Edmonton and LA Kings

    We add another game to go under

    Columbus
    La Kings   5.5


    Good luck as always

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    Another game went to overtime Edmonton and LA Kings

    We add another game to go under

    Columbus
    La Kings   5.5


    Good luck as always

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 1:10 AM ET #99

    Good Luck gasman


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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 5:17 PM ET #100

    arent the oilers and sharks an under play 2night also???

    just curoius whats your record if your keeping track
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    arent the oilers and sharks an under play 2night also???

    just curoius whats your record if your keeping track
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