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Quote Originally Posted by abracadaver:

You are right, it is my own fault for mindlessly following his picks a few times and adjusting my units according to his assuming his impressive stats were honest.

But it is really lame how him and his following are making me out to be this lunatic.  I never said his picks are bad.  The guy has built a good following with solid picks.  I just think it is really low how when he has a horrible week, he lies about his units wagered to make himself come out good. 

That is like me building a good following with great picks over time, posting a large unit play indicating it is a very strong play knowing people will follow and place large real money wagers on it, and then after it loses saying just kidding guys, I only wagered a couple bucks on it so i am still plus-whatever on the year.  Lame.

Whatever, this is my last post in here, it is obviously useless.  All you clowns are oblivious to what a fraud he is. 

Seriously though, someone explain to me how the unit number next to his ML wagers last week when he was perfect was "units won" when he posted his final results, yet means "units risked" this week after he loses a large unit play.


Hey man, I have questioned SN on a few things in this thread earlier about his money management... But I have to back up SN on this one. It is pretty obvious that anytime there was a full unit next to his wager, that it was to "win" that many units. And any time there is a decimal wager, that is "the risk". It's pretty simple actually and pretty logical
 
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Posted: #427
do you have the balls to be monitored.?
yes or no?
and we will play with real lines, not made up?
 
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Posted: #428
Quote Originally Posted by sambuca frank:

do you have the balls to be monitored.?
yes or no?
and we will play with real lines, not made up?


I don't know what's wrong with these people.. for real. Lack of oxygen to the brain or something..

The monitoring is going on right within this thread. His picks and Unit wagers are posted in advance of every game played. Your inability to use common sense while reading the pre-game releases is no one's problem but your own.

Please copy and paste an example of a "made-up" line in this NFL Match-up Performance thread..

I'll wait..
 
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Good call on Atlanta. 
 
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While reading through this cluttered thread and not understanding why posters want to bash, I thought of Sentinels from The Matrix.

Sentinels can easily detect the electrical signals generated by a fully-powered hovercraft, and will relentlessly follow that signal to its end.
Sentinels always try to move in close-knit groups, and if possible, in swarms.
There is no negotiating or reasoning with a Sentinel. The Sentinels receive orders from agents or from higher comments within the Source and will invariably complete their mission unless destroyed or the order is rescinded.

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Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

it is definately a recovery game, I am at -2.7units with the Raiders upset victory over the Eagles. An ATL win gives +2.3unit walk-away for Sundays action.. may you prosper always



Nice come back on the Atlanta ML..  The Philly game got us on the 2nd teaser, but it's gambling.  Looking forward to your next week selection.  Forget about these immature people who bashes and shit.  They need to find other things to do.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by sambuca frank:

do you have the balls to be monitored.?
yes or no?
and we will play with real lines, not made up?


I don't get this guy????  Your coming into his thread and calling him out???  Dude, start from the beginning of this thread and he's been posting all his plays.  People need to get a life!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sambuca frank:

do you have the balls to be monitored.?
yes or no?
and we will play with real lines, not made up?

i  was just informed that on page 4 of systems&strategies you authored a thread for over a year to no response except to yourself, you asked yourself questions, and answered them. i read that thread, and must confess, you need help, call GA asap

Covers.com monitors this thread,

no thank you, this thread consist of "made-up" lines, fakes, frauds, exactly the way I like it.. so what? Why do you even care?

my only bottom line concern is the Covers based link that connects to my ReleaseSheet which documents my work.unfortunately one cannot control an open forum, everyone has an equal right to voice and express opinion, regardless of value..realisticly, go fukc yourself, and take your monitor with you; don't you get it? your commentary, and others in the same category, are nothing more than entertainment, much like a clown escaping from the circus to provide a private show..

 
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Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

While reading through this cluttered thread and not understanding why posters want to bash, I thought of Sentinels from The Matrix.

Sentinels can easily detect the electrical signals generated by a fully-powered hovercraft, and will relentlessly follow that signal to its end.
Sentinels always try to move in close-knit groups, and if possible, in swarms.
There is no negotiating or reasoning with a Sentinel. The Sentinels receive orders from agents or from higher comments within the Source and will invariably complete their mission unless destroyed or the order is rescinded.

SN

well said..absorbed, appreciate your awareness

thank you

SN

 
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abracadaver, dude just leave.  you don't like it, go somewhere else.  You keep making these stupid comments wasting space in this thread. 

I am actually surprised how much patience some of these guys have to answer your questions.  I would just ignore you.

Leave.
 
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Some people have perhaps been impolite in their posts.
 
On the other hand, I think that there is a point to some of the criticism.
 
I want to make clear that I am not here to bash.  I'm here to offer constructive criticism.  Frankly, I think there has been a little bit of playing loosely with the truth.  I think that the unit management parts of the posts have been occasionally opaque.  Sometimes I feel as if they are intentionally opaque.
 
I feel like there are two goals of this thread.
 
a) To educate people and give them real help in picking games.
 
b) To be able to brag about how smart you are.
 
Unfortuneatly, b wins out and takes priority.  This has led to what I can only describe as creative accounting practices on the units.
 
If you do want to help people and are serious about a), you really should be upfront about this.  Frankly, it would help with b) too.  As it is, the nonreporting of the units makes your baseball results practically useless as a tool.  I admire the fact that you decided to report them for football, but I think legitimate questions still remain.
 
When you say that you are betting 38 units on one game....what exactly does that mean? 
 
Does that mean that you are betting 38% of your bankroll?  Or 0.0038% of your bankroll? 
 
Nobody cares about the dollar amounts, but I think that if you are serious about creating "documentation" of the results, you need to answer these questions. 
 
If you don't answer these questions, you're going to look like Nick Leeson or Ken Lay. 
 
I'm sorry but its true. 
 
I am really just trying to protect people from making a bad mistake.  I think that if people follow the advice in this thread without a healthy bs detector, they are basically asking to go broke. 
 
Nobody should ever bet 38% of their bankroll (or anything near it) on a single game.  Yet that seemed to be what you were telling people when you put out the "38 unit" bet on the Cowboys.  The Cowboys won so it didn't matter, but I have a real feeling that if they lost and anybody had complained, you would have responded with  "a unit is much less than 1% of bankroll.  You should have known that"
 
This isn't a bash and you shouldn't respond to it by telling me or anyone else to go fuck themselves.  This is a legitimate complaint and these are legitimate questions that should be answered if you want anyone to take you seriously.
 
 
 
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Posted: #437
SN,
 
PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO THESE PEOPLE.
 
Kreature,
 
PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO THESE PEOPLE.
 
Leave them alone and maybe they will leave. This is getting ridiculous. Stop wasting your time writing them back cause they aren't going to stop. Let's focus on football!
 
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Posted: #438
Quote Originally Posted by seer8:

sports_Network,

You are doing an excellent service to us all. Everyone else, like abracadaver and sambuca, are very lame as well as pitiful. They don't seem to understand the intricacies of handicapping games which is so fundamental as well as elusive. Just keep up the work dude. Your presence here is greatly appreciated. Above all, good luck.


thx for the kind words, just doin' what I love, handicapping sports&going to the bank. may your prosperity continue

SN

 
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Quote Originally Posted by K4ngur13:

abracadaver, dude just leave.  you don't like it, go somewhere else.  You keep making these stupid comments wasting space in this thread. 

I am actually surprised how much patience some of these guys have to answer your questions.  I would just ignore you.

Leave.

unfortunately when a cooler/virus/troll enters the 'true' world of sports wagering the screen name and commentary have to be inicially addressed. based on their goal to attain attention, through disruptive behavior, these are not cappers in any form, other than degenerates..who have a pitiful sickness, and truly need rehab 101..

once a wart appears, you must burn it off, before it can be ignored, and valuable space can be restored.

the best to you always

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simple minds produce simple strategies....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dsiu79:



Nice come back on the Atlanta ML..  The Philly game got us on the 2nd teaser, but it's gambling.  Looking forward to your next week selection.  Forget about these immature people who bashes and shit.  They need to find other things to do.


the Eagles laid down for this one..(surprisingly) the ATL win was an alternative wager which manufactured a plus on Sundays action...take care, continue your prosperity

SN

 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network]  
NFL 09'strategic wagering Matchup_Performance version..
Sunday, October 18th, 2009
Week 6
wager type: 4team 13pt Handicapp
risk: 12units
to win: 10.8units
 
Steelers-1 -110 (b+13)...win
Packers-1 -110 (b+13)...win
Vikings+10 +110 (b+13)...win
Saints+10 +110 (b+13)...win
 
 
 
ReleaseSheet ( FINAL RESULTS)
 
 
 
 
risk: 6units...loss
to win: 5.4
 
 
Eagles-1 -110 (b+13)...loss
Jets+3 1/2 +110 (b+13)...win
Patriots+4 +110 (b+13)...win
Falcons+9 1/2 +110 (b+13)...win
 
Redskins-250 ML / 7.5units...loss
Falcons-190 ML / 9.5units...win
 
8-2
units: +2.3
 
NFL 09'
+40.8units
 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FreakyFresh:



Hey man, I have questioned SN on a few things in this thread earlier about his money management... But I have to back up SN on this one. It is pretty obvious that anytime there was a full unit next to his wager, that it was to "win" that many units. And any time there is a decimal wager, that is "the risk". It's pretty simple actually and pretty logical

yes, reading a Release Sheet is "pretty simple" for a true capper, show one to a person of no experience, and they have no comprehension as to what they are absorbing. thank you for your insight on the understanding of win/risk description.

best regards

 

SN

 
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Your post was justified,i agree.. forward movement...
 
the best
 
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             good move on ATL may your prosperity continue
 
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teaserVikings -3.5Colts -280teaserPittsburg Steelers -140Miami Dolphins +3.5Baltimore Ravens +3.5teaserRedskins-250 ML / 2.5unitsVikings-280 ML / 2.8unitsRavens-780 ML / 7.8unitsStLouis Rams+7 -110 / 2.2unitsDALLAS COWBOYS -380 ML / 38units
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Quote Originally Posted by 3put:

teaser w
Vikings -3.5 w
Colts -280 w
teaser w
Pittsburg Steelers -140 l
Miami Dolphins +3.5 l
Baltimore Ravens +3.5 w
teaser l
Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units l
Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units w
Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units w
StLouis Rams+7 -110 / 2.2units l
DALLAS COWBOYS -380 ML / 38units w

Sorry, I can't figure out how to post an Excel table!

Anybody knows?