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    MLB Underdog Systems - Anyone want to track this for the season?

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    nawlins51
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    Posted: May. 4, 2013 - 4:41 PM ET #151

    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    I would also add no favs even at -1 higher than -130. I would say track it but I agree with nawlins - juice is the enemy - lets treat this as a system and see how it does as well

    Totally agree Degen. Lets make it an official rule for tracking purposes. Play a fave at -130 or less. If higher than -130 then make -1 on the run line. If run line is higher than -130 then the play is scratched from our card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    I would also add no favs even at -1 higher than -130. I would say track it but I agree with nawlins - juice is the enemy - lets treat this as a system and see how it does as well

    Totally agree Degen. Lets make it an official rule for tracking purposes. Play a fave at -130 or less. If higher than -130 then make -1 on the run line. If run line is higher than -130 then the play is scratched from our card.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2013 - 4:44 PM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:

    Dan,

    I say flat bet for now. We start getting into labby lines at this point and new folks come into this thread, we are going to darn their head up lol. For tracking purposes I say flat bet. Yeah lets track it and see how it goes. I will pop into the thread to help during the week to help you if I can. I have 2 procedures this month on my back so I may be MIA from time to time.

    Flat bet it is. I'll add this to my daily posts and we shall see how it does. Good luck with the back issues.

    On Degen's sugestion on the high faves even at -1, I'll track it if it's a system play regardless of juice. We can see how that works out. If it's ok with everyone, I will use the lines I get in Vegas for making the faves -1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:

    Dan,

    I say flat bet for now. We start getting into labby lines at this point and new folks come into this thread, we are going to darn their head up lol. For tracking purposes I say flat bet. Yeah lets track it and see how it goes. I will pop into the thread to help during the week to help you if I can. I have 2 procedures this month on my back so I may be MIA from time to time.

    Flat bet it is. I'll add this to my daily posts and we shall see how it does. Good luck with the back issues.

    On Degen's sugestion on the high faves even at -1, I'll track it if it's a system play regardless of juice. We can see how that works out. If it's ok with everyone, I will use the lines I get in Vegas for making the faves -1.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2013 - 4:51 PM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Flat bet it is. I'll add this to my daily posts and we shall see how it does. Good luck with the back issues.

    On Degen's sugestion on the high faves even at -1, I'll track it if it's a system play regardless of juice. We can see how that works out. If it's ok with everyone, I will use the lines I get in Vegas for making the faves -1.

    i see no issue with vegas lines. Go for it and thanks for the wishes. I did post that calculator on page 6 of the thread if you need a handy quick tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Flat bet it is. I'll add this to my daily posts and we shall see how it does. Good luck with the back issues.

    On Degen's sugestion on the high faves even at -1, I'll track it if it's a system play regardless of juice. We can see how that works out. If it's ok with everyone, I will use the lines I get in Vegas for making the faves -1.

    i see no issue with vegas lines. Go for it and thanks for the wishes. I did post that calculator on page 6 of the thread if you need a handy quick tool.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2013 - 5:20 PM ET #154

    Ok, with the added filters and systems added I will track all 4 on a flat betting system starting now. New systems added at the top of the plays below.

    Saturday 5/4 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    Sea 123

    Bal 137

    Pitt 129

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Cincy +118

    KC -102

    Det -158

    TB -105

    AZ 118

    SF 120

    Dog EFF

    Balt 137, 2 units

    Oak 100, 2 units

    Bos 122, 2 units

    Sea 123, 2 units

    SD 112, 2 units

    System Plays

    Balt 137

    Oak 100

    Bos 122

    Sea 123

    SD 112

    Cubs 108

    ChiSox 132

    Mets 120

    Colo 118

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    Ok, with the added filters and systems added I will track all 4 on a flat betting system starting now. New systems added at the top of the plays below.

    Saturday 5/4 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    Sea 123

    Bal 137

    Pitt 129

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Cincy +118

    KC -102

    Det -158

    TB -105

    AZ 118

    SF 120

    Dog EFF

    Balt 137, 2 units

    Oak 100, 2 units

    Bos 122, 2 units

    Sea 123, 2 units

    SD 112, 2 units

    System Plays

    Balt 137

    Oak 100

    Bos 122

    Sea 123

    SD 112

    Cubs 108

    ChiSox 132

    Mets 120

    Colo 118

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2013 - 8:36 PM ET #155

    Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:

    Totally agree Degen. Lets make it an official rule for tracking purposes. Play a fave at -130 or less. If higher than -130 then make -1 on the run line. If run line is higher than -130 then the play is scratched from our card.

    Based on this rules, I need to revise the Fave EFF Score system plays. All plays are using the -1 unless noted:

    Fave EFF Score

    Cincy +118

    KC -102

    Det -158 (No play, too high juice)

    TB -130 ML 

    AZ -125 ML

    SF 120

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    Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:

    Totally agree Degen. Lets make it an official rule for tracking purposes. Play a fave at -130 or less. If higher than -130 then make -1 on the run line. If run line is higher than -130 then the play is scratched from our card.

    Based on this rules, I need to revise the Fave EFF Score system plays. All plays are using the -1 unless noted:

    Fave EFF Score

    Cincy +118

    KC -102

    Det -158 (No play, too high juice)

    TB -130 ML 

    AZ -125 ML

    SF 120

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2013 - 8:38 PM ET #156

    Correction, Cincy would have been ML at -115.
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    Correction, Cincy would have been ML at -115.
     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2013 - 9:04 PM ET #157

    Looking at the scores from both Dogs and Faves , there are teams who are just bad bets on both sides meaning they have negative numbers as Dogs and Faves. Just crap teams who will take your money.

    Cubs(they got my cash today..Pieces of crap)

    Astros

    Angels

    Dodgers

    Marlins

    Padres

    Blue jays

    Nationals

    When you bet these teams as of now and win, it is pure luck. Example, I bet the Cubs today. Not the smartest bet. Look at Nats win today. Complete luck. Playing these teams like I did today is asking for trouble. A lot of cappers will say pick your spots carefully, well good luck giving up that cash in the long run. Like I said, let these teams show us they are good bets.

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    Looking at the scores from both Dogs and Faves , there are teams who are just bad bets on both sides meaning they have negative numbers as Dogs and Faves. Just crap teams who will take your money.

    Cubs(they got my cash today..Pieces of crap)

    Astros

    Angels

    Dodgers

    Marlins

    Padres

    Blue jays

    Nationals

    When you bet these teams as of now and win, it is pure luck. Example, I bet the Cubs today. Not the smartest bet. Look at Nats win today. Complete luck. Playing these teams like I did today is asking for trouble. A lot of cappers will say pick your spots carefully, well good luck giving up that cash in the long run. Like I said, let these teams show us they are good bets.

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2013 - 1:51 AM ET #158

    Saturday 5/4 results:

    Dog EFF Score

    2-1, +1.6 units

    Sea 123 WIN

    Bal 137 WIN

    Pitt 129 Loss

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    3-1-1,+1.70 units

    Cincy -115 ml WIN

    KC -102 WIN

    TB -130 ml Loss

    AZ -125 ml WIN

    SF 120 WIN on ml, loss on -1.5 (Push overall)

    Dog EFF

    2-3, -.8 units

    YTD 12-10, +10.96 units

    Balt 137, 2 units WIN

    Oak 100, 2 units Loss

    Bos 122, 2 units Loss

    Sea 123, 2 units WIN

    SD 112, 2 units Loss

    System Plays

    3-5, -1.22 units

    YTD 71-74, +13.74 units

    Balt 137 WIN

    Oak 100 Loss

    Bos 122 Loss

    Sea 123 WIN

    SD 112 Loss

    Cubs 108 Loss

    ChiSox 132 Loss

    Mets 120 ppd

    Colo 118 WIN

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    Saturday 5/4 results:

    Dog EFF Score

    2-1, +1.6 units

    Sea 123 WIN

    Bal 137 WIN

    Pitt 129 Loss

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    3-1-1,+1.70 units

    Cincy -115 ml WIN

    KC -102 WIN

    TB -130 ml Loss

    AZ -125 ml WIN

    SF 120 WIN on ml, loss on -1.5 (Push overall)

    Dog EFF

    2-3, -.8 units

    YTD 12-10, +10.96 units

    Balt 137, 2 units WIN

    Oak 100, 2 units Loss

    Bos 122, 2 units Loss

    Sea 123, 2 units WIN

    SD 112, 2 units Loss

    System Plays

    3-5, -1.22 units

    YTD 71-74, +13.74 units

    Balt 137 WIN

    Oak 100 Loss

    Bos 122 Loss

    Sea 123 WIN

    SD 112 Loss

    Cubs 108 Loss

    ChiSox 132 Loss

    Mets 120 ppd

    Colo 118 WIN

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2013 - 12:47 PM ET #159

    Sunday 5/4 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    Sea 142

    Bal 122

    TB 115

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    NYY -138 ml

    KC -126 ml

    Cincy -119

    AZ -119 ml

    SF -122 ml

     

    Dog EFF

    Oak 128, 2 units

    Stl 107, 2 units

    Bal 122, 2 units

     

    System Plays

    Oak 128

    Stl 107

    Bal 122

    Sea 142

    Mets 140

    Mia 170

    SD 108

    TB 102

    Bos/Tex Under 8 -110

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    Sunday 5/4 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    Sea 142

    Bal 122

    TB 115

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    NYY -138 ml

    KC -126 ml

    Cincy -119

    AZ -119 ml

    SF -122 ml

     

    Dog EFF

    Oak 128, 2 units

    Stl 107, 2 units

    Bal 122, 2 units

     

    System Plays

    Oak 128

    Stl 107

    Bal 122

    Sea 142

    Mets 140

    Mia 170

    SD 108

    TB 102

    Bos/Tex Under 8 -110

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2013 - 1:03 PM ET #160

    Hey Dan,

    I don't think Rays are a Dog EFF score play. Rockies should be a fave EFF score play. 

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    Hey Dan,

    I don't think Rays are a Dog EFF score play. Rockies should be a fave EFF score play. 

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2013 - 1:12 PM ET #161

    Yes, I messed that up. Add Colo as a -125 ml Fave Score play and eliminate TB from the Dog Score play.

     

    Sunday 5/4 system plays (REVISED):

    Dog EFF Score

    Sea 142

    Bal 122

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    NYY -138 ml

    KC -126 ml

    Cincy -119

    AZ -119 ml

    SF -122 ml

    Colo -125ml

    Dog EFF

    Oak 128, 2 units

    Stl 107, 2 units

    Bal 122, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 128

    Stl 107

    Bal 122

    Sea 142

    Mets 140

    Mia 170

    SD 108

    TB 115

    Bos/Tex Under 8 -110

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    Yes, I messed that up. Add Colo as a -125 ml Fave Score play and eliminate TB from the Dog Score play.

     

    Sunday 5/4 system plays (REVISED):

    Dog EFF Score

    Sea 142

    Bal 122

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    NYY -138 ml

    KC -126 ml

    Cincy -119

    AZ -119 ml

    SF -122 ml

    Colo -125ml

    Dog EFF

    Oak 128, 2 units

    Stl 107, 2 units

    Bal 122, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 128

    Stl 107

    Bal 122

    Sea 142

    Mets 140

    Mia 170

    SD 108

    TB 115

    Bos/Tex Under 8 -110

     
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    Fave -1 EFF Score not so good
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    Posted: May. 5, 2013 - 8:39 PM ET #163

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuntchaser:

    Fave -1 EFF Score not so good

    Pending the SF game, it is 5-4,  -.12 units. It's only been 2 days, let's give it a chance.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuntchaser:

    Fave -1 EFF Score not so good

    Pending the SF game, it is 5-4,  -.12 units. It's only been 2 days, let's give it a chance.

     

     
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    Sunday 5/5 results:

    Dog EFF Score

    1-1, +.22 units

    YTD 3-2, +1.82 units

    Sea 142 Loss

    Bal 122 WON

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    3-3, -.82 units

    YTD 6-4, +.88 units

    NYY -138 ml Loss

    KC -126 ml WIN

    Cincy -119 WIN

    AZ -119 ml Loss

    SF -122 ml WIN

    Colo -125ml Loss

    Dog EFF

    3-0, +7.14 units

    YTD 15-10, +18.1 units

    Oak 128, 2 units WIN

    Stl 107, 2 units WIN

    Bal 122, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    7-2, +6.5 units

    YTD 78-76, +20.24 units

    Oak 128 WIN

    Stl 107 WIN

    Bal 122 WIN

    Sea 142 Loss

    Mets 140 Loss

    Mia 170 WIN

    SD 108 WIN

    TB 115 WIN

    Bos/Tex Under 8 -110 WIN

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Sunday 5/5 results:

    Dog EFF Score

    1-1, +.22 units

    YTD 3-2, +1.82 units

    Sea 142 Loss

    Bal 122 WON

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    3-3, -.82 units

    YTD 6-4, +.88 units

    NYY -138 ml Loss

    KC -126 ml WIN

    Cincy -119 WIN

    AZ -119 ml Loss

    SF -122 ml WIN

    Colo -125ml Loss

    Dog EFF

    3-0, +7.14 units

    YTD 15-10, +18.1 units

    Oak 128, 2 units WIN

    Stl 107, 2 units WIN

    Bal 122, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    7-2, +6.5 units

    YTD 78-76, +20.24 units

    Oak 128 WIN

    Stl 107 WIN

    Bal 122 WIN

    Sea 142 Loss

    Mets 140 Loss

    Mia 170 WIN

    SD 108 WIN

    TB 115 WIN

    Bos/Tex Under 8 -110 WIN

     
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    outstanding results! [Miami +170 WIN]  [BOS/TEX UNDER-8 WIN] the system is producing consistency in O/U play....vg work all the way around> DG,Danrules24,Nawlins51,

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    outstanding results! [Miami +170 WIN]  [BOS/TEX UNDER-8 WIN] the system is producing consistency in O/U play....vg work all the way around> DG,Danrules24,Nawlins51,

     
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    any dog picks for monday?

     

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    any dog picks for monday?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkii10:

    any dog picks for monday?

     

    too early
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkii10:

    any dog picks for monday?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    outstanding results! [Miami +170 WIN]  [BOS/TEX UNDER-8 WIN] the system is producing consistency in O/U play....vg work all the way around> DG,Danrules24,Nawlins51,

    Thanks Sports Network - much appreciated.

    You should start a thread....you have such a vast knowledge of sports handicapping - I myself have learned a geat deal from you, and strive to learn more every day.  You inspire me to help others.  Knoweledge is power, and should be shared with those who have the drive and the desire to learn.

    I thought your Sabermetrics thread was very insightful and pointed me in a direction that I never thought about - so I appreciate it.

    You should start that up again - i'm sure others will appreciate your handicapping insights and knowledge - just as I have.

    If you need anything let me know - as always Best of Luck to you and well wishes to you and your family.   

     

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    outstanding results! [Miami +170 WIN]  [BOS/TEX UNDER-8 WIN] the system is producing consistency in O/U play....vg work all the way around> DG,Danrules24,Nawlins51,

    Thanks Sports Network - much appreciated.

    You should start a thread....you have such a vast knowledge of sports handicapping - I myself have learned a geat deal from you, and strive to learn more every day.  You inspire me to help others.  Knoweledge is power, and should be shared with those who have the drive and the desire to learn.

    I thought your Sabermetrics thread was very insightful and pointed me in a direction that I never thought about - so I appreciate it.

    You should start that up again - i'm sure others will appreciate your handicapping insights and knowledge - just as I have.

    If you need anything let me know - as always Best of Luck to you and well wishes to you and your family.   

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    Thanks Sports Network - much appreciated.

    You should start a thread....you have such a vast knowledge of sports handicapping - I myself have learned a geat deal from you, and strive to learn more every day.  You inspire me to help others.  Knoweledge is power, and should be shared with those who have the drive and the desire to learn.

    I thought your Sabermetrics thread was very insightful and pointed me in a direction that I never thought about - so I appreciate it.

    You should start that up again - i'm sure others will appreciate your handicapping insights and knowledge - just as I have.

    If you need anything let me know - as always Best of Luck to you and well wishes to you and your family.   

     

    +1

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    Thanks Sports Network - much appreciated.

    You should start a thread....you have such a vast knowledge of sports handicapping - I myself have learned a geat deal from you, and strive to learn more every day.  You inspire me to help others.  Knoweledge is power, and should be shared with those who have the drive and the desire to learn.

    I thought your Sabermetrics thread was very insightful and pointed me in a direction that I never thought about - so I appreciate it.

    You should start that up again - i'm sure others will appreciate your handicapping insights and knowledge - just as I have.

    If you need anything let me know - as always Best of Luck to you and well wishes to you and your family.   

     

    +1

     
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    DG, after the All-Star game- later
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    Monday 5/6 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    No plays

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Tampa -140 ml

    Dog EFF

    Oak 103, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 103

    Tor 130

    Phil/SF Under 6 -110

     

    Note: If both teams are at - odds, not considering either a favorite or dog.

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    Monday 5/6 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    No plays

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Tampa -140 ml

    Dog EFF

    Oak 103, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 103

    Tor 130

    Phil/SF Under 6 -110

     

    Note: If both teams are at - odds, not considering either a favorite or dog.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Monday 5/6 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    No plays

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Tampa -140 ml

    Dog EFF

    Oak 103, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 103

    Tor 130

    Phil/SF Under 6 -110

     

    Note: If both teams are at - odds, not considering either a favorite or dog.


    Dan I think Tampa needs to be -1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Monday 5/6 system plays:

    Dog EFF Score

    No plays

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Tampa -140 ml

    Dog EFF

    Oak 103, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 103

    Tor 130

    Phil/SF Under 6 -110

     

    Note: If both teams are at - odds, not considering either a favorite or dog.


    Dan I think Tampa needs to be -1.

     
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    Monday 5/6 system plays (Revised on TB FAVE -1 EFF Score):

    Dog EFF Score

    No plays

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Tampa 120(after making them -1)

    Dog EFF

    Oak 103, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 103

    Tor 130

    Phil/SF Under 6 -110

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Monday 5/6 system plays (Revised on TB FAVE -1 EFF Score):

    Dog EFF Score

    No plays

    Fave -1 EFF Score

    Tampa 120(after making them -1)

    Dog EFF

    Oak 103, 2 units

    System Plays

    Oak 103

    Tor 130

    Phil/SF Under 6 -110

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:


    Dan I think Tampa needs to be -1.

    For some reason I was thinking -140 as the cut off. Revised, see above post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:


    Dan I think Tampa needs to be -1.

    For some reason I was thinking -140 as the cut off. Revised, see above post.

     
     
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    Will making the columns/rows smaller...font etc... screw with the updates?
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