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    GameBoy7o2
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 12:42 PM ET #1

    had a good run last season.

    RUNLINE BLITZ (highest M//L of the day, bet the R/L ) 5 game chase

    4/5/10
    Philly R/L

    5 game chase of WINS at Home and LOSES on ROAD.

    no play.


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    had a good run last season.

    RUNLINE BLITZ (highest M//L of the day, bet the R/L ) 5 game chase

    4/5/10
    Philly R/L

    5 game chase of WINS at Home and LOSES on ROAD.

    no play.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 1:15 PM ET #2

    what was the record?
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 2:15 PM ET #3

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=100423953

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=100489296
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    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=100423953

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=100489296
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 3:09 PM ET #4

    well i guess im not to smart cuz i have no idea what the play is how much the a,b,c, is or anything but if this works please somebody explain it to me thanks
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    well i guess im not to smart cuz i have no idea what the play is how much the a,b,c, is or anything but if this works please somebody explain it to me thanks
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 3:53 PM ET #5

    i checked out last years thread looks good ... could get up to alot of units risking by game 5 though but deff seems like an amazing system .... i missed today but intend to start tomorro
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    i checked out last years thread looks good ... could get up to alot of units risking by game 5 though but deff seems like an amazing system .... i missed today but intend to start tomorro
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 4:22 PM ET #6

    Just play ARZ RL still got an hour before game time
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    Just play ARZ RL still got an hour before game time
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 5:43 PM ET #7

    Gameboy, I want follow your systems, but I have 2 questions:

    1) For the first system chase (RL), what's happen if the chasing team is underdog in any game of the chase?. Bet the RL (+1.5) anyway?

    2) Could you explain better the second system (5 game chase of WINS at Home and LOSES on ROAD). I don't understand it!! 

    Thanks!!!
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    Gameboy, I want follow your systems, but I have 2 questions:

    1) For the first system chase (RL), what's happen if the chasing team is underdog in any game of the chase?. Bet the RL (+1.5) anyway?

    2) Could you explain better the second system (5 game chase of WINS at Home and LOSES on ROAD). I don't understand it!! 

    Thanks!!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaper:

    Gameboy, I want follow your systems, but I have 2 questions:

    1) For the first system chase (RL), what's happen if the chasing team is underdog in any game of the chase?. Bet the RL (+1.5) anyway?

    2) Could you explain better the second system (5 game chase of WINS at Home and LOSES on ROAD). I don't understand it!! 

    Thanks!!!


    1) To determine the play, whatever team has the highest M/L you bet the R/L, that will determine the play.

    2)  "OK folks, here again is the system in a nutshell, with an example of my shitty Jays (all imaginary opponents and dates). Imagine that the Jays have home games on July 1-4, and 12-14:

    July 1 - Jays HOME win
    July 2 - " "
    July 3 - " "
    July 4 - Jays HOME LOSS

    July 5-11 - Jays road games (do not pay attention to these)
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    ONCE A TEAM WINS 3 (OR MORE) STRAIGHT HOME GAMES and then eventually LOSES a home game to end the home-game winning streak, CHASE THAT TEAM FOR UP TO 4 GAMES.   The purpose of the system is to win ONE unit at a time (e.g. $100/unit in my examples)

    Therefore, on the next homestand:

    July 12 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 1 of chase), e.g. odds -150 (risk $150 to win $100)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 13 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 2 of chase), e.g. odds -150 again (risk $375 to win $250, to recover the first $150 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 14 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 3 of chase), e.g. odds +100 (risk $625 to win $625, to recover the first $150 bet and the second $375 bet, PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    If you have the cojones and bankroll to chase to game 4 (should be approx $1200+, then keep up with the chase! I've had to do it once with STL early this year, and LOST my marbles, but have won more than 50+ games since so the 1400 loss wasn't as bad as it felt...

    This system also entails chase bets to FADE AN AWAY TEAM after the end an away losing streak.  For example, going back to the Jays above:

    July 5-7 - Jays lose 3 straight away games
    July 8 - Jays WIN an away game
    July 9 - Bet AGAINST the Jays, doesn't matter which team (Game 1)

    If they lose...

    July 10 - Bet AGAINST the Jays again (Game 2 of chase) for the amount lost in game 1 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want


    I HOPE THIS HELPS AS I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT ANY CLEARER!!

    CHEERS AND GL! "
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaper:

    Gameboy, I want follow your systems, but I have 2 questions:

    1) For the first system chase (RL), what's happen if the chasing team is underdog in any game of the chase?. Bet the RL (+1.5) anyway?

    2) Could you explain better the second system (5 game chase of WINS at Home and LOSES on ROAD). I don't understand it!! 

    Thanks!!!


    1) To determine the play, whatever team has the highest M/L you bet the R/L, that will determine the play.

    2)  "OK folks, here again is the system in a nutshell, with an example of my shitty Jays (all imaginary opponents and dates). Imagine that the Jays have home games on July 1-4, and 12-14:

    July 1 - Jays HOME win
    July 2 - " "
    July 3 - " "
    July 4 - Jays HOME LOSS

    July 5-11 - Jays road games (do not pay attention to these)
    -------
    ONCE A TEAM WINS 3 (OR MORE) STRAIGHT HOME GAMES and then eventually LOSES a home game to end the home-game winning streak, CHASE THAT TEAM FOR UP TO 4 GAMES.   The purpose of the system is to win ONE unit at a time (e.g. $100/unit in my examples)

    Therefore, on the next homestand:

    July 12 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 1 of chase), e.g. odds -150 (risk $150 to win $100)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 13 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 2 of chase), e.g. odds -150 again (risk $375 to win $250, to recover the first $150 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 14 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 3 of chase), e.g. odds +100 (risk $625 to win $625, to recover the first $150 bet and the second $375 bet, PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    If you have the cojones and bankroll to chase to game 4 (should be approx $1200+, then keep up with the chase! I've had to do it once with STL early this year, and LOST my marbles, but have won more than 50+ games since so the 1400 loss wasn't as bad as it felt...

    This system also entails chase bets to FADE AN AWAY TEAM after the end an away losing streak.  For example, going back to the Jays above:

    July 5-7 - Jays lose 3 straight away games
    July 8 - Jays WIN an away game
    July 9 - Bet AGAINST the Jays, doesn't matter which team (Game 1)

    If they lose...

    July 10 - Bet AGAINST the Jays again (Game 2 of chase) for the amount lost in game 1 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want


    I HOPE THIS HELPS AS I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT ANY CLEARER!!

    CHEERS AND GL! "
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 6:42 PM ET #9

    RL blitz was the shit last year. I did it, and it went well. As always, you just have to be careful how you manage your money.
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    RL blitz was the shit last year. I did it, and it went well. As always, you just have to be careful how you manage your money.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2010 - 10:30 PM ET #10

    NM did you use Lab for money mgmt or straight up?  How many times did you have to go to the 5th game or beyond to get the win? thanks
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    Okay guys, I went through last years thread and came up with numbers the best I could (there were some posted at the end of thread that did not add up correctly).  Here is what I got:

    --Overall 89-77-1

    --Series record with 6 game chase 89-2-1

    --Game 1:    49-42-1

    --Game 2:    25-17

    --Game 3:     9-8

    --Game 4:     4-4

    --Game 5:     0-4

    --Game 6:     2-2

    With a 5 game chase last year this system would be 87-4 which adds no value over a 4 game which would have had the same record.  5 game chase would have lost units, 4 game chase would have gain approx 15U with the same record of 87-4.  This is not much better than playing straight up every game for the year.  These numbers are skewed somewhat in that the last series lost last year decreasing the value at all levels.  Would have ended +30U at 4 game chase if not for the last loss.  There seems to be no added value in going past 4 games with increased risk.

    3 Game chase would have been 83-10 (1 loss for each series won in game 6) with 7-8U per loss depending on juice.

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    Okay guys, I went through last years thread and came up with numbers the best I could (there were some posted at the end of thread that did not add up correctly).  Here is what I got:

    --Overall 89-77-1

    --Series record with 6 game chase 89-2-1

    --Game 1:    49-42-1

    --Game 2:    25-17

    --Game 3:     9-8

    --Game 4:     4-4

    --Game 5:     0-4

    --Game 6:     2-2

    With a 5 game chase last year this system would be 87-4 which adds no value over a 4 game which would have had the same record.  5 game chase would have lost units, 4 game chase would have gain approx 15U with the same record of 87-4.  This is not much better than playing straight up every game for the year.  These numbers are skewed somewhat in that the last series lost last year decreasing the value at all levels.  Would have ended +30U at 4 game chase if not for the last loss.  There seems to be no added value in going past 4 games with increased risk.

    3 Game chase would have been 83-10 (1 loss for each series won in game 6) with 7-8U per loss depending on juice.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2010 - 1:32 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by GameBoy7o2:



    1) To determine the play, whatever team has the highest M/L you bet the R/L, that will determine the play.

    2)  "OK folks, here again is the system in a nutshell, with an example of my shitty Jays (all imaginary opponents and dates). Imagine that the Jays have home games on July 1-4, and 12-14:

    July 1 - Jays HOME win
    July 2 - " "
    July 3 - " "
    July 4 - Jays HOME LOSS

    July 5-11 - Jays road games (do not pay attention to these)
    -------
    ONCE A TEAM WINS 3 (OR MORE) STRAIGHT HOME GAMES and then eventually LOSES a home game to end the home-game winning streak, CHASE THAT TEAM FOR UP TO 4 GAMES.   The purpose of the system is to win ONE unit at a time (e.g. $100/unit in my examples)

    Therefore, on the next homestand:

    July 12 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 1 of chase), e.g. odds -150 (risk $150 to win $100)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 13 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 2 of chase), e.g. odds -150 again (risk $375 to win $250, to recover the first $150 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 14 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 3 of chase), e.g. odds +100 (risk $625 to win $625, to recover the first $150 bet and the second $375 bet, PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    If you have the cojones and bankroll to chase to game 4 (should be approx $1200+, then keep up with the chase! I've had to do it once with STL early this year, and LOST my marbles, but have won more than 50+ games since so the 1400 loss wasn't as bad as it felt...

    This system also entails chase bets to FADE AN AWAY TEAM after the end an away losing streak.  For example, going back to the Jays above:

    July 5-7 - Jays lose 3 straight away games
    July 8 - Jays WIN an away game
    July 9 - Bet AGAINST the Jays, doesn't matter which team (Game 1)

    If they lose...

    July 10 - Bet AGAINST the Jays again (Game 2 of chase) for the amount lost in game 1 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want


    I HOPE THIS HELPS AS I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT ANY CLEARER!!

    Thanks, but my head is about to explode.  Sounds like 2 systems here, I'm I correct?  Will you be posting the games for the second system, then I don't have to think.

    CHEERS AND GL! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBoy7o2:



    1) To determine the play, whatever team has the highest M/L you bet the R/L, that will determine the play.

    2)  "OK folks, here again is the system in a nutshell, with an example of my shitty Jays (all imaginary opponents and dates). Imagine that the Jays have home games on July 1-4, and 12-14:

    July 1 - Jays HOME win
    July 2 - " "
    July 3 - " "
    July 4 - Jays HOME LOSS

    July 5-11 - Jays road games (do not pay attention to these)
    -------
    ONCE A TEAM WINS 3 (OR MORE) STRAIGHT HOME GAMES and then eventually LOSES a home game to end the home-game winning streak, CHASE THAT TEAM FOR UP TO 4 GAMES.   The purpose of the system is to win ONE unit at a time (e.g. $100/unit in my examples)

    Therefore, on the next homestand:

    July 12 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 1 of chase), e.g. odds -150 (risk $150 to win $100)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 13 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 2 of chase), e.g. odds -150 again (risk $375 to win $250, to recover the first $150 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    Lets say they lose this game, then:

    July 14 - Wager on JAYS to WIN @ HOME (Game 3 of chase), e.g. odds +100 (risk $625 to win $625, to recover the first $150 bet and the second $375 bet, PLUS the $100 win-profit we want)

    If you have the cojones and bankroll to chase to game 4 (should be approx $1200+, then keep up with the chase! I've had to do it once with STL early this year, and LOST my marbles, but have won more than 50+ games since so the 1400 loss wasn't as bad as it felt...

    This system also entails chase bets to FADE AN AWAY TEAM after the end an away losing streak.  For example, going back to the Jays above:

    July 5-7 - Jays lose 3 straight away games
    July 8 - Jays WIN an away game
    July 9 - Bet AGAINST the Jays, doesn't matter which team (Game 1)

    If they lose...

    July 10 - Bet AGAINST the Jays again (Game 2 of chase) for the amount lost in game 1 PLUS the $100 win-profit we want


    I HOPE THIS HELPS AS I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT ANY CLEARER!!

    Thanks, but my head is about to explode.  Sounds like 2 systems here, I'm I correct?  Will you be posting the games for the second system, then I don't have to think.

    CHEERS AND GL! "

     
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    Thanks, but my head is about to explode.  Sounds like 2 systems here, I'm I correct?  Will you be posting the games for the second system, then I don't have to think.

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    Thanks, but my head is about to explode.  Sounds like 2 systems here, I'm I correct?  Will you be posting the games for the second system, then I don't have to think.

     
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    doubledime, of course if will, but we have to wait until the pattern hits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBoy7o2:

    doubledime, of course if will, but we have to wait until the pattern hits.


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    doubledime, of course if will, but we have to wait until the pattern hits.


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    This system worked well for me last year in MLB, and also this year in NHL with filters and a little capping also.  You can pick your chase scenario depending on how big your huevos are.  I wouldn't chase over 6 games though. This system is also called the Big Fav system.GL and suggest using Labouchere rather than Martingale.
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    This system worked well for me last year in MLB, and also this year in NHL with filters and a little capping also.  You can pick your chase scenario depending on how big your huevos are.  I wouldn't chase over 6 games though. This system is also called the Big Fav system.GL and suggest using Labouchere rather than Martingale.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2010 - 11:28 AM ET #18

    ulgy start to the season with this one ... atlanta the new play
    today rl??

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    ulgy start to the season with this one ... atlanta the new play
    today rl??

     
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    another way to bet the high favorite is to manipualte the runline. say your betting $100 here is the formula

    braves  -190     RL-1.5  +120.

    100/190= .53  .53+1=1.53

    100/1.53=  65.35  this is how much you bet on ml

    100-65.35=34.65 here is how you would bet

    65.35 to win 34.40 on the ml

    34.65 to win  39.84 on RL if the braves only win by one run ur out .25. if they win by 2 runs you win 74.40 so basically 100 to win 74.40. if u bet half of that of course your juice will be less. 

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    another way to bet the high favorite is to manipualte the runline. say your betting $100 here is the formula

    braves  -190     RL-1.5  +120.

    100/190= .53  .53+1=1.53

    100/1.53=  65.35  this is how much you bet on ml

    100-65.35=34.65 here is how you would bet

    65.35 to win 34.40 on the ml

    34.65 to win  39.84 on RL if the braves only win by one run ur out .25. if they win by 2 runs you win 74.40 so basically 100 to win 74.40. if u bet half of that of course your juice will be less. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snappa:

    This system worked well for me last year in MLB, and also this year in NHL with filters and a little capping also.  You can pick your chase scenario depending on how big your huevos are.  I wouldn't chase over 6 games though. This system is also called the Big Fav system.GL and suggest using Labouchere rather than Martingale.


    I highly agree with utilizing Labouchere. Your wager will never get out of line.  (pardon the pun)
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    This system worked well for me last year in MLB, and also this year in NHL with filters and a little capping also.  You can pick your chase scenario depending on how big your huevos are.  I wouldn't chase over 6 games though. This system is also called the Big Fav system.GL and suggest using Labouchere rather than Martingale.


    I highly agree with utilizing Labouchere. Your wager will never get out of line.  (pardon the pun)
     
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    mcmister or anyone can you please explain the labouchere model and when you use 1 line or 2 lines or such and what the difference is b/t them ??

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    mcmister or anyone can you please explain the labouchere model and when you use 1 line or 2 lines or such and what the difference is b/t them ??

     
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    I looked at this a couple of days ago.  Fading the favorite with a four game chase would have been 46-1 last year, or 44-3 with three game if you did it until 7/15... after that it was more profitable to play the favorite on the runline... don't know if anyone has backtested this or not???

    Also, I did not play against favorites >-235 as they were 29-14 at covering the -runline

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    I looked at this a couple of days ago.  Fading the favorite with a four game chase would have been 46-1 last year, or 44-3 with three game if you did it until 7/15... after that it was more profitable to play the favorite on the runline... don't know if anyone has backtested this or not???

    Also, I did not play against favorites >-235 as they were 29-14 at covering the -runline

     
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    Sorry guys, I have too many pieces of scrap paper where I was working this stuff out.  I didn't post this the other day becuase fading the favorites was horrible in 2008, started 17-2 with a four game chase.  Sorry for cluttering up the thread GB but couldn't delete my previous post...  BOL guys.
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    Sorry guys, I have too many pieces of scrap paper where I was working this stuff out.  I didn't post this the other day becuase fading the favorites was horrible in 2008, started 17-2 with a four game chase.  Sorry for cluttering up the thread GB but couldn't delete my previous post...  BOL guys.
     
     
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