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    JFISH
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2010 - 1:24 PM ET #76

    ahh the anti jm system.... sorry for my questions.
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    ahh the anti jm system.... sorry for my questions.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2010 - 1:33 PM ET #77

    JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet.

    Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition.
    I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2.
    What I am asking is -
                 Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1?
    We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1?
    thx in advance
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    JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet.

    Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition.
    I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2.
    What I am asking is -
                 Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1?
    We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1?
    thx in advance
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2010 - 2:48 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

    JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet.

    Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition.
    I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2.
    What I am asking is -
                 Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1?
    We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1?
    thx in advance


    80-2 is the combined record for v1 and v2. 
    v3 is not included in the 80-2 record (v3 JM was 26-2, AJM v3 was worse).
    If you look at last years thread, I denote the plays as JM1 for version 1 and JM2 as version 2, but the 80-2 record is combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

    JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet.

    Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition.
    I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2.
    What I am asking is -
                 Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1?
    We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1?
    thx in advance


    80-2 is the combined record for v1 and v2. 
    v3 is not included in the 80-2 record (v3 JM was 26-2, AJM v3 was worse).
    If you look at last years thread, I denote the plays as JM1 for version 1 and JM2 as version 2, but the 80-2 record is combined.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2010 - 3:03 PM ET #79

    I'm going to do this:

    Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play

    That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other.  If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series.  If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2)

    Sound smart?

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    I'm going to do this:

    Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play

    That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other.  If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series.  If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2)

    Sound smart?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2010 - 3:31 PM ET #80

    haha you payed for the system ill be here to the end dont worry
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    haha you payed for the system ill be here to the end dont worry
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2010 - 3:39 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    I'm going to do this:

    Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play

    That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other.  If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series.  If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2)

    Sound smart?

    This should have said "NBA Road Chase"

    Sorry, getting systems crossed :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    I'm going to do this:

    Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play

    That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other.  If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series.  If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2)

    Sound smart?

    This should have said "NBA Road Chase"

    Sorry, getting systems crossed :/

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 9:29 AM ET #82

    -------------------------------------------------
    Anti JM Version 2: Labby

    Record: 0-2 
    Profit: -$
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
    Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

    Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Anti JM Version 2: ABC

    Record: 0-2
    Profit: -$22
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21

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    Anti JM Version 2: Labby

    Record: 0-2 
    Profit: -$
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
    Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

    Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Anti JM Version 2: ABC

    Record: 0-2
    Profit: -$22
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 9:53 AM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerpro40k:

    -------------------------------------------------
    Anti JM Version 2: Labby

    Record: 0-2 
    Profit: -$
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
    Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

    Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Anti JM Version 2: ABC

    Record: 0-2
    Profit: -$22
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerpro40k:

    -------------------------------------------------
    Anti JM Version 2: Labby

    Record: 0-2 
    Profit: -$
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
    Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

    Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Anti JM Version 2: ABC

    Record: 0-2
    Profit: -$22
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 10:26 AM ET #84

    Smitler-

    I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

    What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

    Respectfully

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    Smitler-

    I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

    What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

    Respectfully

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 10:48 AM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerpro40k:

    -------------------------------------------------
    Anti JM Version 2: Labby

    Record: 0-2 
    Profit: -$
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
    Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

    Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Anti JM Version 2: ABC

    Record: 0-2
    Profit: -$22
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21



    Your individual game record may be 0-2 bit if you are chasing then your record is 0-0 with 2 pending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerpro40k:

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    Anti JM Version 2: Labby

    Record: 0-2 
    Profit: -$
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
    Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

    Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Anti JM Version 2: ABC

    Record: 0-2
    Profit: -$22
    Risked: $22
    ROI: -100%

    B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21



    Your individual game record may be 0-2 bit if you are chasing then your record is 0-0 with 2 pending.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 10:53 AM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

    Smitler-

    I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

    What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

    Respectfully

    I think it's against v1 v2 as well, pretty sure I read that somewhere

    Anti JM doesn't work for v3 or v4

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

    Smitler-

    I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

    What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

    Respectfully

    I think it's against v1 v2 as well, pretty sure I read that somewhere

    Anti JM doesn't work for v3 or v4

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:00 AM ET #87

    thx smdio

    I was hoping whoever tracked it would tell me instead of guessing. 

    I know it does NOT work against v3 & v4. I backtested those either yesterday or the day before and they both came to about 75% win.
    This is EXACTLY why I want to make sure the 80-2 record that was tracked WAS against v1 & v2. I don't want to assume it was.

    Just cannot get a straight definitive answer...

    I appreciate tho
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    thx smdio

    I was hoping whoever tracked it would tell me instead of guessing. 

    I know it does NOT work against v3 & v4. I backtested those either yesterday or the day before and they both came to about 75% win.
    This is EXACTLY why I want to make sure the 80-2 record that was tracked WAS against v1 & v2. I don't want to assume it was.

    Just cannot get a straight definitive answer...

    I appreciate tho
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:01 AM ET #88

    Maybe it was only against v1?

    Who knows?

    But I'm trying real hard to find out...
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    Maybe it was only against v1?

    Who knows?

    But I'm trying real hard to find out...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:15 AM ET #89

    I'm sure someone has done it.  Just can't remember where I got it from

    I know I haven't, as I've only tracked the system that I'm following in the other thread

    But I know it's been tracked.  Keep asking, you'll find the guy that did it

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    I'm sure someone has done it.  Just can't remember where I got it from

    I know I haven't, as I've only tracked the system that I'm following in the other thread

    But I know it's been tracked.  Keep asking, you'll find the guy that did it

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:18 AM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

    Smitler-

    I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

    What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

    Respectfully



    The answer to your question is!!!!!!!!! (drum roll); VERSION 1 AND VERSION 2!!!

    If you would take 1 minute to read each page of last years thread (about 20 minutes)  might happen. You might also gain some insight to increase your chances of success this season.
    I also plan to re-read the thread for the same purpose, but it will take me longer since my OCD requires that I analyze every damn sentence.

    I'm just fuckin with ya LSU2thBone, My intent is not to offend you.
    I hope you understand. I will be lurking and hope to contribute by sharing my JM/AJM experiences.


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    Smitler-

    I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

    What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

    Respectfully



    The answer to your question is!!!!!!!!! (drum roll); VERSION 1 AND VERSION 2!!!

    If you would take 1 minute to read each page of last years thread (about 20 minutes)  might happen. You might also gain some insight to increase your chances of success this season.
    I also plan to re-read the thread for the same purpose, but it will take me longer since my OCD requires that I analyze every damn sentence.

    I'm just fuckin with ya LSU2thBone, My intent is not to offend you.
    I hope you understand. I will be lurking and hope to contribute by sharing my JM/AJM experiences.


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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:19 AM ET #91

    I am an idiot. That link doesn't work. Its the "Anti-JM NBA thread".
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    I am an idiot. That link doesn't work. Its the "Anti-JM NBA thread".
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:35 AM ET #92

    so is teh consensus out that Under the ANIT JM SYSTEM, NYJ -2.5 is the play? 

    also, is everyone here buying points for all teh systems or are we just playing the spreads outright? thanks alot guys. i really appreciate it

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    so is teh consensus out that Under the ANIT JM SYSTEM, NYJ -2.5 is the play? 

    also, is everyone here buying points for all teh systems or are we just playing the spreads outright? thanks alot guys. i really appreciate it

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:41 AM ET #93

    we always buy PTS correct?? only time we do not buy points is for the ANTI JM??? thanks
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    we always buy PTS correct?? only time we do not buy points is for the ANTI JM??? thanks
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:45 AM ET #94

    Smit-

    I take no offense

    JFISH
    NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin.

    If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't.
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    I take no offense

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    NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin.

    If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

    Smit-

    I take no offense

    JFISH
    NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin.

    If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't.

     

    thanks ALOT lsu,

    anti jm was pretty profitable last year???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

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    I take no offense

    JFISH
    NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin.

    If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't.

     

    thanks ALOT lsu,

    anti jm was pretty profitable last year???

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 11:50 AM ET #96

    hate to clutter this thread up, but does anyone know how many times the ANTI JM system went to a "C" bet?

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    hate to clutter this thread up, but does anyone know how many times the ANTI JM system went to a "C" bet?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2010 - 4:00 PM ET #97

    no clue jfish...the records in parenthesis next to the record column is the overall series records so if you look back to the other nights results you will see

    Record: 2-0 (2-0)

    first is if you had wagered straight....the 2nd in parentheses is the chase record 
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    no clue jfish...the records in parenthesis next to the record column is the overall series records so if you look back to the other nights results you will see

    Record: 2-0 (2-0)

    first is if you had wagered straight....the 2nd in parentheses is the chase record 
     
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    Sorry guys but the Martingale is really not a good idea to use.  Not for any of JM's systems, in my opinion.  Not even Anti JM

    You would make *just as much* profits using an aggressive Labourchere, as well as laying far FAR less per bet. Example?

    Your base bet is $50.  You're using Martingale.  This is a JM v1 bet, so you'll be buying points.  You lose your (A) bet, which was $85 to win $50.  Your next bet would have to recover the $85 just lost, plus profit the original $50, so it would have to be $229.50 to win $135.  Let's say you lose.  You're now down $229.50 + $85.  Your next (C) bet would have to recover those losses, plus profit your original $50.  Your (C) bet would have to be $618.80 to win $364.  God forbid you run into one of the losses for the year!  You're now out over $1200 !!

    Even if you didn't buy points for the Anti JM, as LSU suggest, your final (C) bet would be $231 to win $210.  Lose that and you're out $441, which is equivilant to almost 9 units.

    Labourchere used in the same situation will recover -all- of your losses while laying less than half of the bets for Martingale.  You only have to win 40% of your bets to turn a profit using Labourchere, and both the Anti-JM and JM systems hit far more than that.  By the end of the year, using a Labby for both JM and Anti-JM, you'll end up recovering every bet you ever lost, and profiting about 80-100 units.  Seems far more attractive to me than anything Martingale-related..

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    Sorry guys but the Martingale is really not a good idea to use.  Not for any of JM's systems, in my opinion.  Not even Anti JM

    You would make *just as much* profits using an aggressive Labourchere, as well as laying far FAR less per bet. Example?

    Your base bet is $50.  You're using Martingale.  This is a JM v1 bet, so you'll be buying points.  You lose your (A) bet, which was $85 to win $50.  Your next bet would have to recover the $85 just lost, plus profit the original $50, so it would have to be $229.50 to win $135.  Let's say you lose.  You're now down $229.50 + $85.  Your next (C) bet would have to recover those losses, plus profit your original $50.  Your (C) bet would have to be $618.80 to win $364.  God forbid you run into one of the losses for the year!  You're now out over $1200 !!

    Even if you didn't buy points for the Anti JM, as LSU suggest, your final (C) bet would be $231 to win $210.  Lose that and you're out $441, which is equivilant to almost 9 units.

    Labourchere used in the same situation will recover -all- of your losses while laying less than half of the bets for Martingale.  You only have to win 40% of your bets to turn a profit using Labourchere, and both the Anti-JM and JM systems hit far more than that.  By the end of the year, using a Labby for both JM and Anti-JM, you'll end up recovering every bet you ever lost, and profiting about 80-100 units.  Seems far more attractive to me than anything Martingale-related..

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2010 - 11:44 AM ET #99

    any plays for 2nite, New jersey hit with AJM last night.... lets get paiiiiiddd
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    any plays for 2nite, New jersey hit with AJM last night.... lets get paiiiiiddd
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2010 - 12:11 PM ET #100

    Kangaroo or what the user is called backtracked the AJM last season for the season before, and that went even steven as far as I remember.

    Just a note for those who might be blinded by the fact that it went without a loss last season.
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    Kangaroo or what the user is called backtracked the AJM last season for the season before, and that went even steven as far as I remember.

    Just a note for those who might be blinded by the fact that it went without a loss last season.
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