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    At the end of the 2003-2004 season after the Detroit Pistons upset the LA Lakers to win the 2004 NBA Championship, former LA Lakers Center Shaquille O'Neal demanded a trade and was dealt to the Miami Heat for F Lamar Odom, G-F Caron Butler, and F-C Brain Grant.  Caron Butler and Brian Grant are no longer with the team but Lamar Odom is still a member of the Lakers.  Since 2004-2005, everytime F Lamar Odom has missed a stretch of games due to injury, personal reasons, etc and was not in the starting lineup the Lakers have had a losing record.  The Lakers' record in games Lamar Odom has not started is 2-19.
     
     
    I've decided to make a thread that will carry over for the next 15 games or so dedicated to injured Lakers' forward Lamar Odom.  I've got a feeling that Odom being out is going to make a lot of guys money so this thread will be for tracking the team's progress.
     
    *Note - I know a lot of guys got the victory with Dallas -8 or -8.5 in Game 1 but I'll use closing lines for tracking purposes
     
    Results -
     
    Game 1 @ Dallas (-10/198): 110-101 Final  Lakers SU - Loss  Lakers ATS - Win Lakes Total - Over
    Game 2 vs. Houston(-6/NT):
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    At the end of the 2003-2004 season after the Detroit Pistons upset the LA Lakers to win the 2004 NBA Championship, former LA Lakers Center Shaquille O'Neal demanded a trade and was dealt to the Miami Heat for F Lamar Odom, G-F Caron Butler, and F-C Brain Grant.  Caron Butler and Brian Grant are no longer with the team but Lamar Odom is still a member of the Lakers.  Since 2004-2005, everytime F Lamar Odom has missed a stretch of games due to injury, personal reasons, etc and was not in the starting lineup the Lakers have had a losing record.  The Lakers' record in games Lamar Odom has not started is 2-19.
     
     
    I've decided to make a thread that will carry over for the next 15 games or so dedicated to injured Lakers' forward Lamar Odom.  I've got a feeling that Odom being out is going to make a lot of guys money so this thread will be for tracking the team's progress.
     
    *Note - I know a lot of guys got the victory with Dallas -8 or -8.5 in Game 1 but I'll use closing lines for tracking purposes
     
    Results -
     
    Game 1 @ Dallas (-10/198): 110-101 Final  Lakers SU - Loss  Lakers ATS - Win Lakes Total - Over
    Game 2 vs. Houston(-6/NT):
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 9:21 AM ET #2

    That's a pretty amazing w/l record.  Thanks for putting this on the radar hustle. 
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    That's a pretty amazing w/l record.  Thanks for putting this on the radar hustle. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 9:24 AM ET #3

    LAL -6 v Hou tonight...i have zero interest in laying or taking 6 in this spot

    i think we need to see who will emerge as kobe's second fiddle...kwame, smush parker before we can go against teams exposing weak matchups
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    LAL -6 v Hou tonight...i have zero interest in laying or taking 6 in this spot

    i think we need to see who will emerge as kobe's second fiddle...kwame, smush parker before we can go against teams exposing weak matchups
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 9:37 AM ET #4

    baarrn,
     
    No problem.  Like you said its an amazing stat and I just wanted to publicly track it.
     
    KOAJ,
     
    I dont think any second fiddle will emerge.  That is why the team has struggled so much without Lamar in the lineup.  It's amazing how the loss of one player can completely destroy a team's chances of winning a game and that is why I made the thread, to see if LA can finally break out of the slump without him in the lineup. 
     
    I saw Houston play Golden State last night and the reason why Ming was able to dominate was because of a lack of post presence.  Beirdins and Foyle were simply not big enough (althought Foyle made some nice defensive plays). Bynum and Brown should be able to handle Ming if they get physical with him but anyone should be cautious making a play on Houston without McGrady in the lineup (Who has a similiar impact with the Rockets as Odom has with the Lakers although not as significant)
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    baarrn,
     
    No problem.  Like you said its an amazing stat and I just wanted to publicly track it.
     
    KOAJ,
     
    I dont think any second fiddle will emerge.  That is why the team has struggled so much without Lamar in the lineup.  It's amazing how the loss of one player can completely destroy a team's chances of winning a game and that is why I made the thread, to see if LA can finally break out of the slump without him in the lineup. 
     
    I saw Houston play Golden State last night and the reason why Ming was able to dominate was because of a lack of post presence.  Beirdins and Foyle were simply not big enough (althought Foyle made some nice defensive plays). Bynum and Brown should be able to handle Ming if they get physical with him but anyone should be cautious making a play on Houston without McGrady in the lineup (Who has a similiar impact with the Rockets as Odom has with the Lakers although not as significant)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 9:45 AM ET #5

    What a douche.....
     
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    What a douche.....
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 9:58 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by baarrn:

    That's a pretty amazing w/l record.  Thanks for putting this on the radar hustle. 
     
    What this Kobe basher isn't telling ya'll is..... Caron Butler, Lakers' 2nd leading scorer at the time, was also out injured. This is akin to Jordan losing Pippen AND Grant. Jordan w/o Pippen has a 44% winning percentage btw. Their coach also quit mid-season, so they changed offensive schemes (back to the triangle) late in the season which many of the new players, especially Chuck Atkins, were unfamiliar with.
     
    If this guy obsessed over the NBA like he does with Kobe, he might actually win a game.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baarrn:

    That's a pretty amazing w/l record.  Thanks for putting this on the radar hustle. 
     
    What this Kobe basher isn't telling ya'll is..... Caron Butler, Lakers' 2nd leading scorer at the time, was also out injured. This is akin to Jordan losing Pippen AND Grant. Jordan w/o Pippen has a 44% winning percentage btw. Their coach also quit mid-season, so they changed offensive schemes (back to the triangle) late in the season which many of the new players, especially Chuck Atkins, were unfamiliar with.
     
    If this guy obsessed over the NBA like he does with Kobe, he might actually win a game.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 10:08 AM ET #7

    good stuff right here..
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    good stuff right here..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 10:10 AM ET #8

    Hustleman....I like the lakers tonight esp. with HOU having to play a tough game last night...expect them to come out flat and the lakers always take advantage of slow teams...gl
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    Hustleman....I like the lakers tonight esp. with HOU having to play a tough game last night...expect them to come out flat and the lakers always take advantage of slow teams...gl
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2006 - 10:21 AM ET #9

    Been looking back in the archives for more detailed data -
     
    LA LAKERS  record without Lamar Odom in starting lineup:
     
    Straight up
     
    Wins - 2 Losses - 19
     
    Against the spread
     
    Wins - 6 Losses - 14
     
    As favorite: 1-2
     
    As underdog: 5-12-1
     
    Totals
     
    Overs - 17 Unders - 4
     
    The last time the Lakers won a game at home without Lamar Odom in the starting lineup was March 29, 2005 against the NY Knicks. 
     
     
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    Been looking back in the archives for more detailed data -
     
    LA LAKERS  record without Lamar Odom in starting lineup:
     
    Straight up
     
    Wins - 2 Losses - 19
     
    Against the spread
     
    Wins - 6 Losses - 14
     
    As favorite: 1-2
     
    As underdog: 5-12-1
     
    Totals
     
    Overs - 17 Unders - 4
     
    The last time the Lakers won a game at home without Lamar Odom in the starting lineup was March 29, 2005 against the NY Knicks. 
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilbert:

     
    What this Kobe basher isn't telling ya'll is..... Caron Butler, Lakers' 2nd leading scorer at the time, was also out injured. This is akin to Jordan losing Pippen AND Grant. Jordan w/o Pippen has a 44% winning percentage btw. Their coach also quit mid-season, so they changed offensive schemes (back to the triangle) late in the season which many of the new players, especially Chuck Atkins, were unfamiliar with.
     
    If this guy obsessed over the NBA like he does with Kobe, he might actually win a game.
     
     
    D,
     
    What does this thread have to do with Kobe Bryant? This is a thread based on the LA Lakers' lack of performing at an NBA caliber level with Lamar Odom out of the line up.  We know you have a sick infatuation with Bryant but this thread is about Odom.
     
    And lol @ making excuses... I guess the Lakers' were trying to find out how to run the trinagle after getting beat by double digits by both the Charlotte Bobcats and New Orleans Hornets last year without Odom in the line up too huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilbert:

     
    What this Kobe basher isn't telling ya'll is..... Caron Butler, Lakers' 2nd leading scorer at the time, was also out injured. This is akin to Jordan losing Pippen AND Grant. Jordan w/o Pippen has a 44% winning percentage btw. Their coach also quit mid-season, so they changed offensive schemes (back to the triangle) late in the season which many of the new players, especially Chuck Atkins, were unfamiliar with.
     
    If this guy obsessed over the NBA like he does with Kobe, he might actually win a game.
     
     
    D,
     
    What does this thread have to do with Kobe Bryant? This is a thread based on the LA Lakers' lack of performing at an NBA caliber level with Lamar Odom out of the line up.  We know you have a sick infatuation with Bryant but this thread is about Odom.
     
    And lol @ making excuses... I guess the Lakers' were trying to find out how to run the trinagle after getting beat by double digits by both the Charlotte Bobcats and New Orleans Hornets last year without Odom in the line up too huh?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilbert:

     
    What this Kobe basher isn't telling ya'll is..... Caron Butler, Lakers' 2nd leading scorer at the time, was also out injured. This is akin to Jordan losing Pippen AND Grant. Jordan w/o Pippen has a 44% winning percentage btw. Their coach also quit mid-season, so they changed offensive schemes (back to the triangle) late in the season which many of the new players, especially Chuck Atkins, were unfamiliar with.
     
     
    More myth busting -
     
    The LA Lakers averaged 101.2 PPG during the final stretch that Lamar Odom was out which would have been good for 5th in the entire NBA.  So much for "not being familiar with the offense".  The reasons they lost were 1) No Lamar Odom 2) They couldnt play defense.
     
    D,
     
    I suggest you sit back, relax, and listen without the bashing and you may actually learn something about basketball instead of making yourself look foolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilbert:

     
    What this Kobe basher isn't telling ya'll is..... Caron Butler, Lakers' 2nd leading scorer at the time, was also out injured. This is akin to Jordan losing Pippen AND Grant. Jordan w/o Pippen has a 44% winning percentage btw. Their coach also quit mid-season, so they changed offensive schemes (back to the triangle) late in the season which many of the new players, especially Chuck Atkins, were unfamiliar with.
     
     
    More myth busting -
     
    The LA Lakers averaged 101.2 PPG during the final stretch that Lamar Odom was out which would have been good for 5th in the entire NBA.  So much for "not being familiar with the offense".  The reasons they lost were 1) No Lamar Odom 2) They couldnt play defense.
     
    D,
     
    I suggest you sit back, relax, and listen without the bashing and you may actually learn something about basketball instead of making yourself look foolish.
     
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    More myth busting courtesy of hustle_man -
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2004-2005 season after 64 games: 32-32 .500
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2005-2006 season after 64 games: 33-31 .515
     
    March 20, 2005 proved to be the day of disaster for the Lakers as Lamar Odom was injured in a game against the Indiana Pacers and had to sit out the final 18 games of the season.  Let's see how the Lakers fared over the final 18 games with Odom out of the line up in 2004-2005 -
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2004-2005 season for final 18 games: 2-16 .111
     
    as opposed to the final 18 games of the 2005-2006 regular season with a healthy Lamar Odom -
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2005-2006 season for final 18 games: 12-6 .667
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2004-2005 season: 34-48 .414
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2005-2006 season: 45-37 .549
     
    Now how is it that the Lakers in 2005-2006 had only 1 win more at the same point of the season as in 2005-2006 but went on to win 12 of their final 18 games as opposed to winning 2 of their final 18 games in 2004-2005?  I'd say the presence of Lakers' coach Phil Jackson helped but the health of Lamar Odom and him being able to suit up and play is the main thing. If you havent' seen it yet, its obvious that without Lamar Odom in the starting lineup, not only are the LA Lakers not as good a team, but they'd probably be one of the worst teams in the NBA.
     
    Just thought I'd throw another tidbit out there related to this thread.
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    More myth busting courtesy of hustle_man -
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2004-2005 season after 64 games: 32-32 .500
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2005-2006 season after 64 games: 33-31 .515
     
    March 20, 2005 proved to be the day of disaster for the Lakers as Lamar Odom was injured in a game against the Indiana Pacers and had to sit out the final 18 games of the season.  Let's see how the Lakers fared over the final 18 games with Odom out of the line up in 2004-2005 -
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2004-2005 season for final 18 games: 2-16 .111
     
    as opposed to the final 18 games of the 2005-2006 regular season with a healthy Lamar Odom -
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2005-2006 season for final 18 games: 12-6 .667
     
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2004-2005 season: 34-48 .414
    LA Lakers' regular season record 2005-2006 season: 45-37 .549
     
    Now how is it that the Lakers in 2005-2006 had only 1 win more at the same point of the season as in 2005-2006 but went on to win 12 of their final 18 games as opposed to winning 2 of their final 18 games in 2004-2005?  I'd say the presence of Lakers' coach Phil Jackson helped but the health of Lamar Odom and him being able to suit up and play is the main thing. If you havent' seen it yet, its obvious that without Lamar Odom in the starting lineup, not only are the LA Lakers not as good a team, but they'd probably be one of the worst teams in the NBA.
     
    Just thought I'd throw another tidbit out there related to this thread.
     
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    Results -
     
    Game 1 @ Dallas (-10/198): 110-101 Final  Lakers SU - Loss  Lakers ATS - Win Lakes Total - Over
    Game 2 vs. Houston(-6/192): 112-101 Final 2OT Lakers SU - Win Lakers ATS - Win Lakers Total - Over
    Game 3 vs. Washington(-5/213)
     
    Brilliant effort by Smush Parker in Double OT by knocking down a BIG 3 pointer and making 2 back to back steals on Rafer Alston to seal the win for the Fakers. The Fakers won their first game since Lamar Odom was not in the starting line up since the 2004-2005 and now move on to a Sunday Night Showdown against the Wizards.
     
    Lakers now 3-19 SU and 7-14 ATS in games Lamar Odom does not start with an 18-4 O-U record
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    Game 1 @ Dallas (-10/198): 110-101 Final  Lakers SU - Loss  Lakers ATS - Win Lakes Total - Over
    Game 2 vs. Houston(-6/192): 112-101 Final 2OT Lakers SU - Win Lakers ATS - Win Lakers Total - Over
    Game 3 vs. Washington(-5/213)
     
    Brilliant effort by Smush Parker in Double OT by knocking down a BIG 3 pointer and making 2 back to back steals on Rafer Alston to seal the win for the Fakers. The Fakers won their first game since Lamar Odom was not in the starting line up since the 2004-2005 and now move on to a Sunday Night Showdown against the Wizards.
     
    Lakers now 3-19 SU and 7-14 ATS in games Lamar Odom does not start with an 18-4 O-U record
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 1:02 AM ET #14

    Smush, lol, Kobe did a few things as well you know, like 53 of em........
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    Smush, lol, Kobe did a few things as well you know, like 53 of em........
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 1:04 AM ET #15

    Wow..........didn't see this thread b/f tonight. Thanks for the heads up here Hustle and very nice find
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    Wow..........didn't see this thread b/f tonight. Thanks for the heads up here Hustle and very nice find
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 1:07 AM ET #16

    your a  fukin Idiot Hustle Man
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    your a  fukin Idiot Hustle Man
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 1:07 AM ET #17

    Great thread, exactly the angle I was working with when I faded the Lakers yesterday against the Rockets unfortunately those fucks couldn't hold a 18 point HT lead
     
     
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    Great thread, exactly the angle I was working with when I faded the Lakers yesterday against the Rockets unfortunately those fucks couldn't hold a 18 point HT lead
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 1:12 AM ET #18

    SO I take it everyone is on WIZ ML
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 1:13 AM ET #19

    Wow, never thought I'll see a Lamar Odom System here
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 4:00 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Great thread, exactly the angle I was working with when I faded the Lakers yesterday against the Rockets unfortunately those fucks couldn't hold a 18 point HT lead
     
     
     
    Yeah, I caught the end of the game and knew Houston was done after the 4th qt.  Yao Ming's lungs were  and he barely was getting up the court.  The Rockets made matters even worse when their idiot coach kept trying to run plays for Ming done the stretch to get the victory.
     
     
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    Great thread, exactly the angle I was working with when I faded the Lakers yesterday against the Rockets unfortunately those fucks couldn't hold a 18 point HT lead
     
     
     
    Yeah, I caught the end of the game and knew Houston was done after the 4th qt.  Yao Ming's lungs were  and he barely was getting up the court.  The Rockets made matters even worse when their idiot coach kept trying to run plays for Ming done the stretch to get the victory.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 5:50 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by throwback559:

    your a  fukin Idiot Hustle Man
     
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon1:

    Smush, lol, Kobe did a few things as well you know, like 53 of em........
     
     
    What do you expect, he's a Kobe basher.
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    Smush, lol, Kobe did a few things as well you know, like 53 of em........
     
     
    What do you expect, he's a Kobe basher.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2006 - 5:57 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by dilbert:

     
     
    What do you expect, he's a Kobe basher.
     
    I dont bash anyone... I just tell the truth.  Something you'd never understand.  But then again, when your knowledge of basketball is about as high as Dumbo the Elephant, I'd have problems understanding too.
     
    Still waiting on your to prove wrong anything I've said in this thread about the Lakers and how sorry they are without their best player.
     
     
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    What do you expect, he's a Kobe basher.
     
    I dont bash anyone... I just tell the truth.  Something you'd never understand.  But then again, when your knowledge of basketball is about as high as Dumbo the Elephant, I'd have problems understanding too.
     
    Still waiting on your to prove wrong anything I've said in this thread about the Lakers and how sorry they are without their best player.
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by throwback559:

    your a  fukin Idiot Hustle Man


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    your a  fukin Idiot Hustle Man


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    Play for the night 12/17/06 -
     
    Washington Wizards ML +190/Over 213 Parlay - +450
     
     
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