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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:12 PM ET #76

    cisco said nothing about starting over if that teams wins by 5+ in the 2 games you skip.  i guess that's right.  i'm starting off betting $5 per game until we get clarification from cisco.  
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    cisco said nothing about starting over if that teams wins by 5+ in the 2 games you skip.  i guess that's right.  i'm starting off betting $5 per game until we get clarification from cisco.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:14 PM ET #77

    Obviously I am looking at this system from a new user stand point and posting helps me work out the kinks. From what COVERDAT is saying, any chase can and likely should be operated independently of any other.

    As becomes obvious, many of these can step on the toes of other ones, so you need to grab onto one, set your parameters and run that chase independent and exclusively of any other chase.
     
    I dont see how you could really run them all without some SERIOUS time investment. ;)
     
    The HOME FAV seems a bit easier to track, but both have merit in the underlying reasoning though. 
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    Obviously I am looking at this system from a new user stand point and posting helps me work out the kinks. From what COVERDAT is saying, any chase can and likely should be operated independently of any other.

    As becomes obvious, many of these can step on the toes of other ones, so you need to grab onto one, set your parameters and run that chase independent and exclusively of any other chase.
     
    I dont see how you could really run them all without some SERIOUS time investment. ;)
     
    The HOME FAV seems a bit easier to track, but both have merit in the underlying reasoning though. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:14 PM ET #78

    since Mets won on monday by 5 would they not be play AGAINST tonight vs Atl?.........won by 5 monday....played tues and wed but not thurs so today would be first opportunity after skipping 2 games...angle says 5 or more and they won monday 7-2

    just trying to clarify as I am trying to track it
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    since Mets won on monday by 5 would they not be play AGAINST tonight vs Atl?.........won by 5 monday....played tues and wed but not thurs so today would be first opportunity after skipping 2 games...angle says 5 or more and they won monday 7-2

    just trying to clarify as I am trying to track it
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:16 PM ET #79

    i think we're all a little confused, deliveryman.  i'd like to stick to a system this year and this seems perfect.  i'm new to this system as well. 
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    i think we're all a little confused, deliveryman.  i'd like to stick to a system this year and this seems perfect.  i'm new to this system as well. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:17 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by Molsen:

    cisco said nothing about starting over if that teams wins by 5+ in the 2 games you skip.  i guess that's right.  i'm starting off betting $5 per game until we get clarification from cisco.  

    Another good point!

    The SKIP games it is irrelevant what the scores are. So indeed the Mets are FADE candidates tonight (4/4) as well as 4/6. Good one Molsen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molsen:

    cisco said nothing about starting over if that teams wins by 5+ in the 2 games you skip.  i guess that's right.  i'm starting off betting $5 per game until we get clarification from cisco.  

    Another good point!

    The SKIP games it is irrelevant what the scores are. So indeed the Mets are FADE candidates tonight (4/4) as well as 4/6. Good one Molsen

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:24 PM ET #81

    so tonight i'm hitting ATL, STL, SD and TX.  tomorrow, DET, NYM, SF (ugh), OAK and Wash.   sucks because you have to go against Sabathia and Wainwright on Sat. but a system is a system. 
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    so tonight i'm hitting ATL, STL, SD and TX.  tomorrow, DET, NYM, SF (ugh), OAK and Wash.   sucks because you have to go against Sabathia and Wainwright on Sat. but a system is a system. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:36 PM ET #82

    Not necessary to play EVERY one though right? If the system works it should work on one chase as well as 5 right?
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    Not necessary to play EVERY one though right? If the system works it should work on one chase as well as 5 right?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 5:44 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:

    I told Cisco that he was needed here.


    lipps, can you tell him again?  haha.  thanks buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:

    I told Cisco that he was needed here.


    lipps, can you tell him again?  haha.  thanks buddy
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 6:01 PM ET #84

    i'm looking at other sites, threads and it looks like since the Mets scored 5+ on 4/2, ATL is a no play tonight.   you must wait 2 more days to fade the Mets
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    i'm looking at other sites, threads and it looks like since the Mets scored 5+ on 4/2, ATL is a no play tonight.   you must wait 2 more days to fade the Mets
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 6:32 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by Molsen:

    i'm looking at other sites, threads and it looks like since the Mets scored 5+ on 4/2, ATL is a no play tonight.   you must wait 2 more days to fade the Mets

    Hey, Molsen, shoot me the info on other sites you have referring to this system, I too am trying to set up a sheet for this.

    realmwalker@pobox.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molsen:

    i'm looking at other sites, threads and it looks like since the Mets scored 5+ on 4/2, ATL is a no play tonight.   you must wait 2 more days to fade the Mets

    Hey, Molsen, shoot me the info on other sites you have referring to this system, I too am trying to set up a sheet for this.

    realmwalker@pobox.com

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 6:57 PM ET #86

    you can find his plays on statfox.com, but just understand the risk of chasing bets before you decide to do this system.
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    you can find his plays on statfox.com, but just understand the risk of chasing bets before you decide to do this system.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 8:33 PM ET #87

    the problem with the 5 run fade system is that they tend to overlap such as whats happening right now.  There really isnt anything you can do about it but to play them independently of each other.  I think the best way to do it is to play very conservatively to begin with esp with the 5 run chase.  My interpretation of it is that there was no mention of winning or losing by 5 or more in the two skipped games. 

    The other system is far more cut and dry but Im going to watch the first couple months with that one before I play it out
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    the problem with the 5 run fade system is that they tend to overlap such as whats happening right now.  There really isnt anything you can do about it but to play them independently of each other.  I think the best way to do it is to play very conservatively to begin with esp with the 5 run chase.  My interpretation of it is that there was no mention of winning or losing by 5 or more in the two skipped games. 

    The other system is far more cut and dry but Im going to watch the first couple months with that one before I play it out
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 8:36 PM ET #88

    so you guys know I played tonight:

    Braves
    Cards RL -1.5 (played rl cause the odds were terrible)
    Rangers

    I couldnt pull the trigger on the Padres simply because Im a huge Dodger fan and didnt want to root against them tonight 

    GL Everyone 
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    so you guys know I played tonight:

    Braves
    Cards RL -1.5 (played rl cause the odds were terrible)
    Rangers

    I couldnt pull the trigger on the Padres simply because Im a huge Dodger fan and didnt want to root against them tonight 

    GL Everyone 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 8:49 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by Coverdatspred:

    the problem with the 5 run fade system is that they tend to overlap such as whats happening right now.  There really isnt anything you can do about it but to play them independently of each other.  I think the best way to do it is to play very conservatively to begin with esp with the 5 run chase.  My interpretation of it is that there was no mention of winning or losing by 5 or more in the two skipped games. 

    The other system is far more cut and dry but Im going to watch the first couple months with that one before I play it out


    thats how I interpret it....says team win s by 5 or more then skip the next 2 games and bet vs that team up to 4 games and if they win by 5 or more during the 4 then start over, i.e. skip 2 again...way I see it once they win by 5 or more u skip 2 , does not mater if they win by 5 or more the next day (during the 2 day skip)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coverdatspred:

    the problem with the 5 run fade system is that they tend to overlap such as whats happening right now.  There really isnt anything you can do about it but to play them independently of each other.  I think the best way to do it is to play very conservatively to begin with esp with the 5 run chase.  My interpretation of it is that there was no mention of winning or losing by 5 or more in the two skipped games. 

    The other system is far more cut and dry but Im going to watch the first couple months with that one before I play it out


    thats how I interpret it....says team win s by 5 or more then skip the next 2 games and bet vs that team up to 4 games and if they win by 5 or more during the 4 then start over, i.e. skip 2 again...way I see it once they win by 5 or more u skip 2 , does not mater if they win by 5 or more the next day (during the 2 day skip)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:00 PM ET #90

    if wash were to win tonight what do we do on saturday as wash shud be play against on sat (play stl)  but also stl is play against since won by 5 on wednesday.......if wash does not win then still need clarify as its bound to happen again (probably many times in season)
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    if wash were to win tonight what do we do on saturday as wash shud be play against on sat (play stl)  but also stl is play against since won by 5 on wednesday.......if wash does not win then still need clarify as its bound to happen again (probably many times in season)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 12:49 AM ET #91

    had 2 out of 3 winners tonight (TX & STL)  gotta chase SD on Sat.  Sat plays are: SD (again), OAK and WASH.  don't think i'll test Sabathia after what OAK did to them on Fri but the other 2 look good.  also, NYM were a no play since they won by 5+ on 4/2.  it's a 5+ run system for a reason.  the NYM should reset.  play against them on 4/8. 

    this is what i'm getting out of this system.  hopefully, it's correct.  i'm still waiting for cisco to pop in to clarify. 
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    had 2 out of 3 winners tonight (TX & STL)  gotta chase SD on Sat.  Sat plays are: SD (again), OAK and WASH.  don't think i'll test Sabathia after what OAK did to them on Fri but the other 2 look good.  also, NYM were a no play since they won by 5+ on 4/2.  it's a 5+ run system for a reason.  the NYM should reset.  play against them on 4/8. 

    this is what i'm getting out of this system.  hopefully, it's correct.  i'm still waiting for cisco to pop in to clarify. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 1:52 AM ET #92

    for Sat. the plays are the Mets- Oakland-Wash. Home fav. play is Detroit Tigers / Game #2 of chase. The above  3  teams  are game # 1 in chase. 
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    for Sat. the plays are the Mets- Oakland-Wash. Home fav. play is Detroit Tigers / Game #2 of chase. The above  3  teams  are game # 1 in chase. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 1:57 AM ET #93

    so padres are a play tomorrow even though dodgers won by 6 tonight?
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    so padres are a play tomorrow even though dodgers won by 6 tonight?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 2:00 AM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by rossflash:

    for Sat. the plays are the Mets- Oakland-Wash. Home fav. play is Detroit Tigers / Game #2 of chase. The above  3  teams  are game # 1 in chase. 
    I dont think the Mets are one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossflash:

    for Sat. the plays are the Mets- Oakland-Wash. Home fav. play is Detroit Tigers / Game #2 of chase. The above  3  teams  are game # 1 in chase. 
    I dont think the Mets are one.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 7:18 AM ET #95

    I am basing chases based on outcomes on 4/2.

    4/5 Plays

    Home Fav Chase game # 2.

    Detroit (-175)

         Game 1 bet was 1.70 + 5 = 6.70
         Game 2 bet is 6.70 + 5 = 11.70 * 1.75 = 20.48

    5 Run Chase Games

     A's (+147)  (against Indians)  - chase game 1 (Sabathia)
    Nats (+157) (against Cards)   - chase game 1  (Wainwright)

     

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    I am basing chases based on outcomes on 4/2.

    4/5 Plays

    Home Fav Chase game # 2.

    Detroit (-175)

         Game 1 bet was 1.70 + 5 = 6.70
         Game 2 bet is 6.70 + 5 = 11.70 * 1.75 = 20.48

    5 Run Chase Games

     A's (+147)  (against Indians)  - chase game 1 (Sabathia)
    Nats (+157) (against Cards)   - chase game 1  (Wainwright)

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 10:11 AM ET #96

    I said I wouldn't post here but I will today so you guys can see where I'm going.
     
     
    dodgers won by more that 5 runs. skip 2 games.
    game 2 is monday at arizona.

    i post the current pinnacle odds. i calculate profits using wagerline closing numbers. san diego ended up at +116 texas at +147

    https://www.wagerline.com/Scores-Odds/mlb.aspx?pos=37
     
    dodgers won by more that 5 runs. skip 2 games.
    game 2 is monday at arizona.

    Saturday
    2-0 +247 ytd

    Yesterday
    St Louis won gm 1 +100
    Angels lost gm 1. I win +147
    Dodgers won gm1 7-1. skip 2 gms to gm 2

    Today
    Play Against: Cleveland gm 1
    Bet on: Oakland +141
    Play Against: St Louis gm 1
    Bet on: Washington +146

    Pending
    4/6 boston @ tor
    4/7 ari vs lad (back 1)
    4/7 dodgers gm 2
    4/7 atl @ col
    4/7 tb @ nyy
    4/8 mil vs cin
    4/8 nym vs phi
    4/8 tex vs bal

    Mets & Atlanta - I will go against the winner and adjust the schedule.
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    I said I wouldn't post here but I will today so you guys can see where I'm going.
     
     
    dodgers won by more that 5 runs. skip 2 games.
    game 2 is monday at arizona.

    i post the current pinnacle odds. i calculate profits using wagerline closing numbers. san diego ended up at +116 texas at +147

    https://www.wagerline.com/Scores-Odds/mlb.aspx?pos=37
     
    dodgers won by more that 5 runs. skip 2 games.
    game 2 is monday at arizona.

    Saturday
    2-0 +247 ytd

    Yesterday
    St Louis won gm 1 +100
    Angels lost gm 1. I win +147
    Dodgers won gm1 7-1. skip 2 gms to gm 2

    Today
    Play Against: Cleveland gm 1
    Bet on: Oakland +141
    Play Against: St Louis gm 1
    Bet on: Washington +146

    Pending
    4/6 boston @ tor
    4/7 ari vs lad (back 1)
    4/7 dodgers gm 2
    4/7 atl @ col
    4/7 tb @ nyy
    4/8 mil vs cin
    4/8 nym vs phi
    4/8 tex vs bal

    Mets & Atlanta - I will go against the winner and adjust the schedule.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 10:23 AM ET #97

    deliveryman3 " My interpretation of it is that there was no mention of winning or losing by 5 or more in the two skipped games." 
     
     
    skip two more games from that point.
    ..................
    Realm You got it.
    ..................
     
    If anyone wants my spreadsheet you can e-mail me. Check My Space for the addy.
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    deliveryman3 " My interpretation of it is that there was no mention of winning or losing by 5 or more in the two skipped games." 
     
     
    skip two more games from that point.
    ..................
    Realm You got it.
    ..................
     
    If anyone wants my spreadsheet you can e-mail me. Check My Space for the addy.
     
    cisco
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 10:30 AM ET #98

    It's kinda like doing this.

    https://www.snotr.com/video/612

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Coverdatspred:

    I think both are a play regardless if im reading Ciscos post correctly.  The Mets win on 4/2 was one of the games we are probably skipping (ignoring). 
     
    The Cards win on 4/2 means another count begins?  If this is correct we can only bet on the Cards tonight and then begin to fade them in their next game.
     
    This thing can get complicated I guess
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    It's kinda like doing this.

    https://www.snotr.com/video/612

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Coverdatspred:

    I think both are a play regardless if im reading Ciscos post correctly.  The Mets win on 4/2 was one of the games we are probably skipping (ignoring). 
     
    The Cards win on 4/2 means another count begins?  If this is correct we can only bet on the Cards tonight and then begin to fade them in their next game.
     
    This thing can get complicated I guess
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 10:36 AM ET #99

    Home Favorite system. Use these teams as +.470 until May 1.
     

    Boston

    New York

    Detroit

    Los Angeles

    Cleveland

    Seattle

    Toronto

     

    New York

    Philadelphia

    Los Angeles

    Chicago

    Arizona

    Atlanta

    San Diego

    Milwaukee

     

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    Home Favorite system. Use these teams as +.470 until May 1.
     

    Boston

    New York

    Detroit

    Los Angeles

    Cleveland

    Seattle

    Toronto

     

    New York

    Philadelphia

    Los Angeles

    Chicago

    Arizona

    Atlanta

    San Diego

    Milwaukee

     

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 10:45 AM ET #100

    help....I have  sf  oak tor  and wash as plays in chase today.........milw won by 6 on wed so skip thurs and fri and play vs today, right?  or not since they won by 9 yesterday.......if a team wins by 5 or more during the skip we start over ?  I thought it was irrelevant what happens in skip days.  Bosox not play vs today since no game on thurs?  skip 2 games or 2 days?.........this  is getting confusing...........if u chase team and in game 3 they win by 5 or more again do u start over completely or bet the next opportunity as 4th game  i.e.  higher units to get the one back?
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    help....I have  sf  oak tor  and wash as plays in chase today.........milw won by 6 on wed so skip thurs and fri and play vs today, right?  or not since they won by 9 yesterday.......if a team wins by 5 or more during the skip we start over ?  I thought it was irrelevant what happens in skip days.  Bosox not play vs today since no game on thurs?  skip 2 games or 2 days?.........this  is getting confusing...........if u chase team and in game 3 they win by 5 or more again do u start over completely or bet the next opportunity as 4th game  i.e.  higher units to get the one back?
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