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    6 Game Martingale All Or Nothing Copycat Chase

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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2010 - 3:25 AM ET #701

    Quote Originally Posted by Leprechaun:

    As I numbers guy, and a neutral observer, I thought I'd briefly weigh in on this topic and try to help out a little.  The fact of the matter is, you're both right.  Yes, you will eventually lose 7 in a row...there is no doubt about that.  It's a certainty.  Eagle, for record purposes...what you post is what matters.  What you "would have" posted means absolutely nothing.  You lost 7 straight.  Not much more to say there so quit trying to qualify it.  But your point is still made as you are still in the black.  That gets me to what you are missing DJ...losing 7 in a row does not necessarily equal going broke.  It definitely means you profit slowly...and it might mean that the risk vs. reward doesn't make the whole thing worth it (for some), but it does not mean you will lose money.  If people who follow eagle understand that and are comfortable with the slow long grind of profiting, that is their perogative.  They could probably do the same on their own, but if they want to pay a few bucks for it, who cares.  Eagle isn't cheating anyone or trying to fool anyone.  He very well could profit in the long term, albeit slowly, even though you don't like his premise.  I also think 6 or 7 game chases is too many to make it worth it (and almost inevitably people will chicken out before it gets that far), but I acknowledge that the strategy can work if you manage your bankroll right.  You won't be buying any new houses anytime soon though.

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    i totally agree, unposted picks should never even be mentioned. had he chosed a 7th game that wouldve lost but wasnt able to get it posted, and then wound up winning, would he be on here saying "wow im lucky my true 7th pick wasnt able to be posted because it wouldve been a loser"? hell no, we would never have even known that unposted pick existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leprechaun:

    As I numbers guy, and a neutral observer, I thought I'd briefly weigh in on this topic and try to help out a little.  The fact of the matter is, you're both right.  Yes, you will eventually lose 7 in a row...there is no doubt about that.  It's a certainty.  Eagle, for record purposes...what you post is what matters.  What you "would have" posted means absolutely nothing.  You lost 7 straight.  Not much more to say there so quit trying to qualify it.  But your point is still made as you are still in the black.  That gets me to what you are missing DJ...losing 7 in a row does not necessarily equal going broke.  It definitely means you profit slowly...and it might mean that the risk vs. reward doesn't make the whole thing worth it (for some), but it does not mean you will lose money.  If people who follow eagle understand that and are comfortable with the slow long grind of profiting, that is their perogative.  They could probably do the same on their own, but if they want to pay a few bucks for it, who cares.  Eagle isn't cheating anyone or trying to fool anyone.  He very well could profit in the long term, albeit slowly, even though you don't like his premise.  I also think 6 or 7 game chases is too many to make it worth it (and almost inevitably people will chicken out before it gets that far), but I acknowledge that the strategy can work if you manage your bankroll right.  You won't be buying any new houses anytime soon though.

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    i totally agree, unposted picks should never even be mentioned. had he chosed a 7th game that wouldve lost but wasnt able to get it posted, and then wound up winning, would he be on here saying "wow im lucky my true 7th pick wasnt able to be posted because it wouldve been a loser"? hell no, we would never have even known that unposted pick existed.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2010 - 2:28 PM ET #702

    We have an S1 Level 1 play on Over 8 in Braves game at +134. 

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    We have an S1 Level 1 play on Over 8 in Braves game at +134. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2010 - 2:32 PM ET #703

    Hey Eagle : keep it  up  !! what are the pool totals as of now?
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    Hey Eagle : keep it  up  !! what are the pool totals as of now?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2010 - 5:47 PM ET #704

    Also have a S2 Level 3 play on Red Sox +108.

    Saggwine, are you refering to the contest with DJ or the real bankroll on the website?

    If you are referring to the real totals go over to the website and check them out.

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    Also have a S2 Level 3 play on Red Sox +108.

    Saggwine, are you refering to the contest with DJ or the real bankroll on the website?

    If you are referring to the real totals go over to the website and check them out.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2010 - 1:27 AM ET #705

    Hey supereagle....just found your thread and its very interesting....i've been betting martingale for a while too...its the smartest way to play..my friends laugh when i play 10 dollars a game...meanwhile they play 300 a game and have no money.  if you have the patience, i normally start at 10 then go 15, 25, 45, 85, and such because, so what if you dont make the whole 10 dollars on one series....this way you can lose ten in a row even 11 or twelve in a row,  if i lost seven in a row, then hit on number 8, im fine losing 30- 50 bucks, i even step up the following series to 25, just because i know i wont lose 7 straight on the very next series....by the way...try this same thing in craps betiing "don't" and if you lose like 4 in arow...cover the come out roll by putting a little on any seven and the 11...only on the comeout roll to cover yourself....very tough to lose
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    Hey supereagle....just found your thread and its very interesting....i've been betting martingale for a while too...its the smartest way to play..my friends laugh when i play 10 dollars a game...meanwhile they play 300 a game and have no money.  if you have the patience, i normally start at 10 then go 15, 25, 45, 85, and such because, so what if you dont make the whole 10 dollars on one series....this way you can lose ten in a row even 11 or twelve in a row,  if i lost seven in a row, then hit on number 8, im fine losing 30- 50 bucks, i even step up the following series to 25, just because i know i wont lose 7 straight on the very next series....by the way...try this same thing in craps betiing "don't" and if you lose like 4 in arow...cover the come out roll by putting a little on any seven and the 11...only on the comeout roll to cover yourself....very tough to lose
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2010 - 1:35 AM ET #706

    in my opinion, the only way to make money gambling is grinding it out.....the most i ever lost was ten in a row...i only play games that sick gamblers think are "traps" because they look so easy, when doing martingale u only have to win one, i will take my chances with kobe, carpenter, halliday, whoever, but because the odds are big in baseball, i always play the runline,no matter what the spread, almost impossible to lose ten in a row, even with runline.

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    in my opinion, the only way to make money gambling is grinding it out.....the most i ever lost was ten in a row...i only play games that sick gamblers think are "traps" because they look so easy, when doing martingale u only have to win one, i will take my chances with kobe, carpenter, halliday, whoever, but because the odds are big in baseball, i always play the runline,no matter what the spread, almost impossible to lose ten in a row, even with runline.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2010 - 12:34 PM ET #707

    Hi Eagle ,, Sorry nut which website are you referring to for your stats for the last two weeks?  Thanks and good luck.
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    Hi Eagle ,, Sorry nut which website are you referring to for your stats for the last two weeks?  Thanks and good luck.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2010 - 8:45 PM ET #708

    Its supereaglesportspics.com

    Hey lovesthedough, I am trying to PM you. Put me on your friends list.

     

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    Hey lovesthedough, I am trying to PM you. Put me on your friends list.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2010 - 8:46 PM ET #709

    2 Level 1 plays tonight on White Sox and Mets.
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2010 - 10:08 PM ET #710

    Play was on Royals, not Sox.

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    Play was on Royals, not Sox.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 6:03 PM ET #711

    Had a Series 1 Level 1 on Over 6.5 in Padres game that won. 

    Series 1 has now it 7 in a row.  It would be a great time to pay $11 and start a short fade.  It has an early game tonight.

    Had an early Series 2 Level 1 loss with Phillies -1.5.  Have another S2 play tonight also.

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    Had a Series 1 Level 1 on Over 6.5 in Padres game that won. 

    Series 1 has now it 7 in a row.  It would be a great time to pay $11 and start a short fade.  It has an early game tonight.

    Had an early Series 2 Level 1 loss with Phillies -1.5.  Have another S2 play tonight also.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 6:27 PM ET #712

    Great job Superleuge, im interested in your system.  how many units have you profit so far?
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    Great job Superleuge, im interested in your system.  how many units have you profit so far?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 6:42 PM ET #713

    PicknRole, this is not really a system, its more of a money management strategy applied to my personal method of handicapping.  My handicapping method is made specifically for this Grand Martingale chase.  Please read back through this thread, at least some of it, and get a good understanding of what Im doing here.  I began with $1000 and turned it into just over $3000 in about 4 months.  I then had a series loss. Now the $1000 bankroll is worth just over $1700.  This money management method is fatalistic, but I am betting that I have enough of an edge that I can keep trudging forward.  This is definately not for everyone.  Its for an investment minded person, not the person who wants to hit for a few hundred in 1 weekend and then pull his money out.  Please be sure to read this thread and also read the website so you can really have an understanding of what this is.

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    PicknRole, this is not really a system, its more of a money management strategy applied to my personal method of handicapping.  My handicapping method is made specifically for this Grand Martingale chase.  Please read back through this thread, at least some of it, and get a good understanding of what Im doing here.  I began with $1000 and turned it into just over $3000 in about 4 months.  I then had a series loss. Now the $1000 bankroll is worth just over $1700.  This money management method is fatalistic, but I am betting that I have enough of an edge that I can keep trudging forward.  This is definately not for everyone.  Its for an investment minded person, not the person who wants to hit for a few hundred in 1 weekend and then pull his money out.  Please be sure to read this thread and also read the website so you can really have an understanding of what this is.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2010 - 5:50 PM ET #714

    Last night we lost a Series 1 Level 1 on Red Sox.

    Lost a Series 2 Level 2 play on Oakland. 

    2 more plays tonight.

     

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    Last night we lost a Series 1 Level 1 on Red Sox.

    Lost a Series 2 Level 2 play on Oakland. 

    2 more plays tonight.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2010 - 8:38 PM ET #715

    your website isnt coming up please re send   thanks
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    your website isnt coming up please re send   thanks
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2010 - 9:23 PM ET #716

    www.supereaglesportspicks.com

    Plays tonight on the Mets and Twins

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    Plays tonight on the Mets and Twins

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 2:43 AM ET #717

    what i dont get is you charge ppl for your picks, yet u have already lost 7 in a row.. what makes you think it wont happen again?  what is your overall record?  I bet under 45%??? I kno you said you mainly bet underdogs, but if any joe blow could play all home dogs and still have a better percentage then you. Your just like everyone else trying to grind out some cash.. your system is nothing new.. ppl have been doing it for years and have teaked it to bettet suit them.   Good luck hope you make some profit this year, but not by charging people for you random dog plays.   ps.  Save your level 7 plays for your most confident picks , not just because you have lost 6 in a row.
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    what i dont get is you charge ppl for your picks, yet u have already lost 7 in a row.. what makes you think it wont happen again?  what is your overall record?  I bet under 45%??? I kno you said you mainly bet underdogs, but if any joe blow could play all home dogs and still have a better percentage then you. Your just like everyone else trying to grind out some cash.. your system is nothing new.. ppl have been doing it for years and have teaked it to bettet suit them.   Good luck hope you make some profit this year, but not by charging people for you random dog plays.   ps.  Save your level 7 plays for your most confident picks , not just because you have lost 6 in a row.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 10:11 AM ET #718

    PickNRole are serious with these questions or just trying to bait me into a response.

    1)No where in anything that you have read about this have I mislead people into thinking that I cant lose 7 in a row.

    2)Of all the people who wager on sports ALMOST EVERYDAY for 4 months straight, what percentage do you believe would even be up $1? I guarantee it is less than 10% and probably less than 5%.  My bankroll is up just over 70% over the same length of time.

    3)This is called gambling for a reason.  There is a dang good chance you could lose, but anyone following this from the start would only be diappointed about 1 thing.  Thats when I irresponsibly let the system down by being in the woods where there was no internet when the winning play was on the table and I could not get it out to the people.  I did not start charging until I was over 80-0.  At that point $1000 had been turned into $3000.

    4)You dont have to play this the way I do.  You can wait for the losses to come and then jump aboard for a short chase for more bucks.  I had hit 7 in a row on Series 1 through 2 days ago and posted an excellent opportunity to start a short fade.  Would it not have been worth it to pay $11 and start a 3 game fade betting that I would not hit 10 in a row.  Turns out game 8 lost.  That would have been like paying $11 for a winner and then you could have waited for the next opportunity.  They are a plenty if you think out of the box and for $11 the opportunities are extremely affordable.

    Anyway, no more soap box and good luck to you on whatever you do!

     

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    PickNRole are serious with these questions or just trying to bait me into a response.

    1)No where in anything that you have read about this have I mislead people into thinking that I cant lose 7 in a row.

    2)Of all the people who wager on sports ALMOST EVERYDAY for 4 months straight, what percentage do you believe would even be up $1? I guarantee it is less than 10% and probably less than 5%.  My bankroll is up just over 70% over the same length of time.

    3)This is called gambling for a reason.  There is a dang good chance you could lose, but anyone following this from the start would only be diappointed about 1 thing.  Thats when I irresponsibly let the system down by being in the woods where there was no internet when the winning play was on the table and I could not get it out to the people.  I did not start charging until I was over 80-0.  At that point $1000 had been turned into $3000.

    4)You dont have to play this the way I do.  You can wait for the losses to come and then jump aboard for a short chase for more bucks.  I had hit 7 in a row on Series 1 through 2 days ago and posted an excellent opportunity to start a short fade.  Would it not have been worth it to pay $11 and start a 3 game fade betting that I would not hit 10 in a row.  Turns out game 8 lost.  That would have been like paying $11 for a winner and then you could have waited for the next opportunity.  They are a plenty if you think out of the box and for $11 the opportunities are extremely affordable.

    Anyway, no more soap box and good luck to you on whatever you do!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPEREAGLE43:

    PickNRole are serious with these questions or just trying to bait me into a response.

    1)No where in anything that you have read about this have I mislead people into thinking that I cant lose 7 in a row.

    2)Of all the people who wager on sports ALMOST EVERYDAY for 4 months straight, what percentage do you believe would even be up $1? I guarantee it is less than 10% and probably less than 5%.  My bankroll is up just over 70% over the same length of time.

    3)This is called gambling for a reason.  There is a dang good chance you could lose, but anyone following this from the start would only be diappointed about 1 thing.  Thats when I irresponsibly let the system down by being in the woods where there was no internet when the winning play was on the table and I could not get it out to the people.  I did not start charging until I was over 80-0.  At that point $1000 had been turned into $3000.

    4)You dont have to play this the way I do.  You can wait for the losses to come and then jump aboard for a short chase for more bucks.  I had hit 7 in a row on Series 1 through 2 days ago and posted an excellent opportunity to start a short fade.  Would it not have been worth it to pay $11 and start a 3 game fade betting that I would not hit 10 in a row.  Turns out game 8 lost.  That would have been like paying $11 for a winner and then you could have waited for the next opportunity.  They are a plenty if you think out of the box and for $11 the opportunities are extremely affordable.

    Anyway, no more soap box and good luck to you on whatever you do!

     



    OK  i understand the series loss could have been prevented if you had internet access, but.. in anycase no previous games have an effect on the next. This is where we think differnatly.. if you won 7 in a row.. i would start tailing you rather then going against the grain. WHy fade when your hot?
    anyways good luck on your continued success, hope you get your bankroll hi enough to be betting 100 dollar units at one point
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    PickNRole are serious with these questions or just trying to bait me into a response.

    1)No where in anything that you have read about this have I mislead people into thinking that I cant lose 7 in a row.

    2)Of all the people who wager on sports ALMOST EVERYDAY for 4 months straight, what percentage do you believe would even be up $1? I guarantee it is less than 10% and probably less than 5%.  My bankroll is up just over 70% over the same length of time.

    3)This is called gambling for a reason.  There is a dang good chance you could lose, but anyone following this from the start would only be diappointed about 1 thing.  Thats when I irresponsibly let the system down by being in the woods where there was no internet when the winning play was on the table and I could not get it out to the people.  I did not start charging until I was over 80-0.  At that point $1000 had been turned into $3000.

    4)You dont have to play this the way I do.  You can wait for the losses to come and then jump aboard for a short chase for more bucks.  I had hit 7 in a row on Series 1 through 2 days ago and posted an excellent opportunity to start a short fade.  Would it not have been worth it to pay $11 and start a 3 game fade betting that I would not hit 10 in a row.  Turns out game 8 lost.  That would have been like paying $11 for a winner and then you could have waited for the next opportunity.  They are a plenty if you think out of the box and for $11 the opportunities are extremely affordable.

    Anyway, no more soap box and good luck to you on whatever you do!

     



    OK  i understand the series loss could have been prevented if you had internet access, but.. in anycase no previous games have an effect on the next. This is where we think differnatly.. if you won 7 in a row.. i would start tailing you rather then going against the grain. WHy fade when your hot?
    anyways good luck on your continued success, hope you get your bankroll hi enough to be betting 100 dollar units at one point
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 1:38 PM ET #720

    "Thats when I irresponsibly let the system down by being in the woods where there was no internet when the winning play was on the table and I could not get it out to the people"

     

    Youve gotta stop saying this. Im not sure if it sounds as ridiculous as your typing it as it does to people when theyre reading it, but it kills any and all credibility this thread had before the 7 losses in a row occurred.

    and as far as fading you after the 7th loss, this also makes no sense whatsoever. thats the same thing as looking for a roulette wheel thats come up 7 straight reds and playing black because the run of reds is bound to lose soon. your 8th pick has nothing whatsoever to do with your prior 7 losses. the players playing in that 8th game dont know you lost 7 games prior. the 8th pick after 7 straight losses has the same chance of winning or losing as did the 2nd pick or 5th pick or 7th pick. (assuming of course its an even money or close to it bet)

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    "Thats when I irresponsibly let the system down by being in the woods where there was no internet when the winning play was on the table and I could not get it out to the people"

     

    Youve gotta stop saying this. Im not sure if it sounds as ridiculous as your typing it as it does to people when theyre reading it, but it kills any and all credibility this thread had before the 7 losses in a row occurred.

    and as far as fading you after the 7th loss, this also makes no sense whatsoever. thats the same thing as looking for a roulette wheel thats come up 7 straight reds and playing black because the run of reds is bound to lose soon. your 8th pick has nothing whatsoever to do with your prior 7 losses. the players playing in that 8th game dont know you lost 7 games prior. the 8th pick after 7 straight losses has the same chance of winning or losing as did the 2nd pick or 5th pick or 7th pick. (assuming of course its an even money or close to it bet)

     
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    Michael, you seem to have a hard time with me being honest.  Why should I stop telling the truth.  Regardless of what you think, its what happened.  Human error, mine, let the system down.  The next 2 plays were there and were winners and I wasnt available to get them out.  Why do you have such a problem with the facts.  If you are assuming I am making up a story, then I cant help that.  If you have followed along you would have seen that I have done nothing to indicate dishonesty throughout this whole thread.   Really, what difference does it make to you anyway? Up front, before a 7 game series starts, the odds say that I have less than a 1 in 100 chance of missing or hitting 7 in a row.  Obviously it is even less than that for 8, 9, or 10 in a row.  I never start a series based on the odds at the back end of it.  That would be stupid.  I realize that each individual play has a 1 in 2 chance of hitting.  Obviously, if I have hit 7 in a row, based on the nature of gambling, do you think the wins are gonna keep piling up?  If so, the you should start another hobby that will cost you less.  While I totally understand that I could hit several more in a row, its certainly less likely.  ESPECIALLY with my overall record.  Have you been asleep or something.lol  Anyway, good luck and thanks for your contributions to the thread, even though it seems as though you come more to pick arguments lately.
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    Michael, you seem to have a hard time with me being honest.  Why should I stop telling the truth.  Regardless of what you think, its what happened.  Human error, mine, let the system down.  The next 2 plays were there and were winners and I wasnt available to get them out.  Why do you have such a problem with the facts.  If you are assuming I am making up a story, then I cant help that.  If you have followed along you would have seen that I have done nothing to indicate dishonesty throughout this whole thread.   Really, what difference does it make to you anyway? Up front, before a 7 game series starts, the odds say that I have less than a 1 in 100 chance of missing or hitting 7 in a row.  Obviously it is even less than that for 8, 9, or 10 in a row.  I never start a series based on the odds at the back end of it.  That would be stupid.  I realize that each individual play has a 1 in 2 chance of hitting.  Obviously, if I have hit 7 in a row, based on the nature of gambling, do you think the wins are gonna keep piling up?  If so, the you should start another hobby that will cost you less.  While I totally understand that I could hit several more in a row, its certainly less likely.  ESPECIALLY with my overall record.  Have you been asleep or something.lol  Anyway, good luck and thanks for your contributions to the thread, even though it seems as though you come more to pick arguments lately.
     
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    S1 Level 3 play on the Giants lost and S2 Level 4 play on the Rays also lost.
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    S1 Level 3 play on the Giants lost and S2 Level 4 play on the Rays also lost.
     
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    Wow.. this has just really become quite ridiculous.. I really want to comment, but I am so fuckin drunk right now, it would probably not be good.. Maybe tomorrow when I am wide awake, I will give my 2 cents on this.. cuz it has been eating me up!!!

    RIDICULOUSNESS|!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUCK, i AM A REALLY GOOD TYPER WHEN I'M DRUNK, EH?????? FUCKIN CAPS

    yeah..

    i think i swept the board tonight other than the fucking yankees!!!!!!!!!!!! that can't be rioght, i better check again...

    Hope you kicked ass tonight too Eagle!!!! Altho I am not sure it even matters now..

    Cheers 

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    Wow.. this has just really become quite ridiculous.. I really want to comment, but I am so fuckin drunk right now, it would probably not be good.. Maybe tomorrow when I am wide awake, I will give my 2 cents on this.. cuz it has been eating me up!!!

    RIDICULOUSNESS|!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUCK, i AM A REALLY GOOD TYPER WHEN I'M DRUNK, EH?????? FUCKIN CAPS

    yeah..

    i think i swept the board tonight other than the fucking yankees!!!!!!!!!!!! that can't be rioght, i better check again...

    Hope you kicked ass tonight too Eagle!!!! Altho I am not sure it even matters now..

    Cheers 

     
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    Nice clear with the Indians tonight, Eagle. Big win. 
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    Nice clear with the Indians tonight, Eagle. Big win. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2010 - 4:14 AM ET #725

    Overall Record 97-1
    Overall Balance $1719.12
    Overall Game Record 97-119

    Series 1 Record 85-1
    Balance $859.12
    Individual Game Record 85-101

    Series 2 Record 12-0
    Balance $860.00
    Individual Game Record 12-18

    I am cancelling the website and will begin posting here again for free.

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    Overall Record 97-1
    Overall Balance $1719.12
    Overall Game Record 97-119

    Series 1 Record 85-1
    Balance $859.12
    Individual Game Record 85-101

    Series 2 Record 12-0
    Balance $860.00
    Individual Game Record 12-18

    I am cancelling the website and will begin posting here again for free.

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