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    2012-13 BOWL GAMES SYSTEM

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    glefkb01
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2013 - 6:33 PM ET #251


     
    Here are the plays that my system picked, but I am NOT playing: 

    Mass +17…bottom of the conference
    UK +3.5...bottom of the conference
    UtSt -20.5…QB replaced


    Week 14 plays
    I've included the maximum line for my system picks to still be played, so you can see how much room you have for line changes.

    Miss -3  ~ -7 (QB has the flu, so check on his condition)

    Tol -7.5  ~ -9

    FAU -28 ~ -35

    Fres -7.5 ~ -14
     
    SATURDAY COMEBACK
     
    FSU -27.5

    Mizz -4 ~ -6.5

    VaTc -13 ~ -17

    Baylor -12 ~ -16

    KsSt -16 ~ -21

    Wisc -24 ~ -30

    ArkSt  +6 ~ +2

    N.Tx  -4.5 ~ -5.5

    Clem +5.5 ~ +2

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    Here are the plays that my system picked, but I am NOT playing: 

    Mass +17…bottom of the conference
    UK +3.5...bottom of the conference
    UtSt -20.5…QB replaced


    Week 14 plays
    I've included the maximum line for my system picks to still be played, so you can see how much room you have for line changes.

    Miss -3  ~ -7 (QB has the flu, so check on his condition)

    Tol -7.5  ~ -9

    FAU -28 ~ -35

    Fres -7.5 ~ -14
     
    SATURDAY COMEBACK
     
    FSU -27.5

    Mizz -4 ~ -6.5

    VaTc -13 ~ -17

    Baylor -12 ~ -16

    KsSt -16 ~ -21

    Wisc -24 ~ -30

    ArkSt  +6 ~ +2

    N.Tx  -4.5 ~ -5.5

    Clem +5.5 ~ +2

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2013 - 9:28 PM ET #252

    SATURDAY COMEBACK
     
    FSU -27.5

    Mizz -4 ~ -6.5

    VaTc -13 ~ -17

    Baylor -12 ~ -16

    KsSt -16 ~ -21

    Wisc -24 ~ -30

    ArkSt  +6 ~ +2

    N.Tx  -4.5 ~ -5.5

    Clem +5.5 ~ +2
     
     
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    SATURDAY COMEBACK
     
    FSU -27.5

    Mizz -4 ~ -6.5

    VaTc -13 ~ -17

    Baylor -12 ~ -16

    KsSt -16 ~ -21

    Wisc -24 ~ -30

    ArkSt  +6 ~ +2

    N.Tx  -4.5 ~ -5.5

    Clem +5.5 ~ +2
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2013 - 10:41 PM ET #253

    Never double the bets!!! I committed the Cardinal Sin!!! I shall be punished   


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    Never double the bets!!! I committed the Cardinal Sin!!! I shall be punished   


     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:56 AM ET #254

    Quote Originally Posted by legendkiller007:

    Never double the bets!!! I committed the Cardinal Sin!!! I shall be punished   




    Yes, we were punished!

    Here's how it went down for me. 

    Week # 12 I bet $1,100 per game, went 7-2, net gain: $4,800.
    Week # 13 I bet $1,100 per game, went 12-4-1, net gain:  $7,600
    Week # 14 I bet $2,200 per game, went 4-7, net loss: $7,400

    Total net gain from last 3 weeks: $5,000 (minus travel expenses approx. $1,500). Oh, and I lost most of my Covers red stars 

    Total system plays for 4 weeks:

    wk#11...12-2
    wk#12...11-3
    wk#13...12-2
    wk#14….5-8
    total…..40-15 = 73%

    And now it's off to the NFL, and let's win there. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by legendkiller007:

    Never double the bets!!! I committed the Cardinal Sin!!! I shall be punished   




    Yes, we were punished!

    Here's how it went down for me. 

    Week # 12 I bet $1,100 per game, went 7-2, net gain: $4,800.
    Week # 13 I bet $1,100 per game, went 12-4-1, net gain:  $7,600
    Week # 14 I bet $2,200 per game, went 4-7, net loss: $7,400

    Total net gain from last 3 weeks: $5,000 (minus travel expenses approx. $1,500). Oh, and I lost most of my Covers red stars 

    Total system plays for 4 weeks:

    wk#11...12-2
    wk#12...11-3
    wk#13...12-2
    wk#14….5-8
    total…..40-15 = 73%

    And now it's off to the NFL, and let's win there. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 7:48 AM ET #255

    Oh, and I lost most of my Covers red stars 

    That's funny Grateful.   Not a great week for me, went to a poker tourney.   Busted first one out with AA to a guy who went all in with A6.

    I have no doubt it was more of a "last weekend" everyone getting ready for championship game kinda week   HUGE UPSETS and definitely a Bookie weekend. 

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    Oh, and I lost most of my Covers red stars 

    That's funny Grateful.   Not a great week for me, went to a poker tourney.   Busted first one out with AA to a guy who went all in with A6.

    I have no doubt it was more of a "last weekend" everyone getting ready for championship game kinda week   HUGE UPSETS and definitely a Bookie weekend. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 7:56 AM ET #256

    Grateful...

    Did you only play the system the last 3 weeks??

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    Grateful...

    Did you only play the system the last 3 weeks??

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 10:15 AM ET #257

    Quote Originally Posted by legendkiller007:

    Never double the bets!!! I committed the Cardinal Sin!!! I shall be punished   



    I did the same.  Double up this week 
    It's all good.  Still have today to make up the loses 
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    Quote Originally Posted by legendkiller007:

    Never double the bets!!! I committed the Cardinal Sin!!! I shall be punished   



    I did the same.  Double up this week 
    It's all good.  Still have today to make up the loses 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 10:22 AM ET #258

    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:



    Total net gain from last 3 weeks: $5,000 (minus travel expenses approx. $1,500). 



    You're still up.  That's all it matters. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:



    Total net gain from last 3 weeks: $5,000 (minus travel expenses approx. $1,500). 



    You're still up.  That's all it matters. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 10:41 AM ET #259

    Gratefulbets, I appreciate your posts no matter win or lose. And I am sure many others do too. GL as always!
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    Gratefulbets, I appreciate your posts no matter win or lose. And I am sure many others do too. GL as always!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 12:12 PM ET #260

    Thanks for your posts man. I'm up just over 2 units for the past 2 weeks. Hope NFL kicks behind today. 
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    Thanks for your posts man. I'm up just over 2 units for the past 2 weeks. Hope NFL kicks behind today. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:04 PM ET #261

    Thanks for all the good thoughts. 

    "I have no doubt it was more of a "last weekend" everyone getting ready for championship game kinda week   HUGE UPSETS and definitely a Bookie weekend". 

    I did some research yesterday on the Thanksgiving week over the past 4 years.
    I wanted to see if Friday (including the few games before Friday) was different from Saturday in % of wins with the dog covering ATS, and if the entire week was different from the other weeks.

    FRIDAY                                          SATURDAY           TOTAL
    YEAR…..DOGS W/L…%…………DOGS W/L…%…..…W/L…...%
    2012……9/16…………57…………….14/40……35…….23/56…41
    2011……9/16…………57……...……..17/38……37…....26/54…49
    2010……6/16…………38……………..18/38..…48…….24/54….45
    2009…..10/15…………67……………..20/34…..59……30/49….62

    2013……9/19…………48……………..23/40…..58…….32/59….55

    Except for 2010, the other 3 years, and this year, have the dogs covering ATS above the league average of 48% on Friday, or Sat., or both.

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    Thanks for all the good thoughts. 

    "I have no doubt it was more of a "last weekend" everyone getting ready for championship game kinda week   HUGE UPSETS and definitely a Bookie weekend". 

    I did some research yesterday on the Thanksgiving week over the past 4 years.
    I wanted to see if Friday (including the few games before Friday) was different from Saturday in % of wins with the dog covering ATS, and if the entire week was different from the other weeks.

    FRIDAY                                          SATURDAY           TOTAL
    YEAR…..DOGS W/L…%…………DOGS W/L…%…..…W/L…...%
    2012……9/16…………57…………….14/40……35…….23/56…41
    2011……9/16…………57……...……..17/38……37…....26/54…49
    2010……6/16…………38……………..18/38..…48…….24/54….45
    2009…..10/15…………67……………..20/34…..59……30/49….62

    2013……9/19…………48……………..23/40…..58…….32/59….55

    Except for 2010, the other 3 years, and this year, have the dogs covering ATS above the league average of 48% on Friday, or Sat., or both.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 5:39 PM ET #262

    Good research man. 

    You live, you learn. 
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    Good research man. 

    You live, you learn. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 6:50 PM ET #263

    NFL week # 13

    System plays

    Tenn +3.5

    Jax +7

    Car -7.5

    Miami +2.5

    Buff -3.5

    NE -7
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    NFL week # 13

    System plays

    Tenn +3.5

    Jax +7

    Car -7.5

    Miami +2.5

    Buff -3.5

    NE -7
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2013 - 9:59 AM ET #264

    OT loser on Buffalo....   3-3.     


    better luck this week grateful.    

    appreciate your hard work and your plays (win or lose)
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    OT loser on Buffalo....   3-3.     


    better luck this week grateful.    

    appreciate your hard work and your plays (win or lose)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2013 - 10:04 AM ET #265

    new week, getting back what was lost....going with seattle

    i hate this play but NO is a nono on the road.
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    new week, getting back what was lost....going with seattle

    i hate this play but NO is a nono on the road.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2013 - 2:08 PM ET #266

    Quote Originally Posted by glefkb01:

    new week, getting back what was lost....going with seattle

    i hate this play but NO is a nono on the road.
     Seattle is an obvious pick. And obvious picks on Monday night's always......you know what 
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    Quote Originally Posted by glefkb01:

    new week, getting back what was lost....going with seattle

    i hate this play but NO is a nono on the road.
     Seattle is an obvious pick. And obvious picks on Monday night's always......you know what 
     
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    Wow! I was in for last years bowl games . I did not realize you were doing regular season plays..glad to be back GB !
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    Wow! I was in for last years bowl games . I did not realize you were doing regular season plays..glad to be back GB !
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2013 - 6:28 PM ET #268

    i agree. I lose every monday play I make....just lookin for anyones insight
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    i agree. I lose every monday play I make....just lookin for anyones insight
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2013 - 4:17 PM ET #269

    Grateful, u playing the champioship games this weekend?
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    Grateful, u playing the champioship games this weekend?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by glefkb01:

    Grateful, u playing the champioship games this weekend?

    Yep, Im just about through with capping the games, but won't post until later tonight...ya know, my day job.
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    Grateful, u playing the champioship games this weekend?

    Yep, Im just about through with capping the games, but won't post until later tonight...ya know, my day job.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2013 - 4:25 PM ET #271

    Cool,  take your time and check that list twice...tis the season!
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2013 - 2:10 AM ET #272

    OK, so here is what I've been doing. 
    On Sunday I spent time reviewing the college games that went 5-8,  first, looking for clerical mistakes, none, then looking for new criterias for selecting plays with my system.  After a few hours I started playing with some of the systems raw data and found another criteria that looked interesting. So I tried it with the NFL for that day and those picks went 7-1-1, as opposed to my original picks that went 3-3. With this new system, 3 of the 7 wins were the same, and  2 new wins came from picking the opposing teams I lost (Ind and Atl). 1 loss, NE, stayed the same, and 1 other win was NYG. 
    This isn't much to go on, but I want to track it this week for both college and NFL. I also capped these games with the system I've been using. 

    College regular system 

    USF +5.5 ~ pk

    OkSt  -10 ~ -10

    AzSt -3 ~ -6

    College new system
    (all of these plays have good value so another point higher should not matter)

    NIL -3

    Mem pk

    ULL +3

    Mizz +2 

    Duke +29.5

    These plays also have some value, not as much as the plays above, but I'm not sure where the minimum value should be set.
    Lou -3.5
    Tex +13.5
    Marsh -4.5
    Stan +3
    MiSt +5
    UtSt +3


    NFL regular system

    Hou -3 ~ -3

    KC -3 ~ -3

    Cin -6 ~ -7

    TB -2.5 ~ -5


    NFL new system
    (all of these plays have high value so a few points more should not matter)

    Jax +3

    KC -3

    Oak +2.5

    Ind +6

    Car +3

    Miami +3

    Sea +2.5

    Dal +1

    These plays also have some value, not as much as the plays above, but I'm not sure where the minimum value should be set.
    Min +6.5
    Det +2.5
    StL +6
    NYG +3 


     

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    OK, so here is what I've been doing. 
    On Sunday I spent time reviewing the college games that went 5-8,  first, looking for clerical mistakes, none, then looking for new criterias for selecting plays with my system.  After a few hours I started playing with some of the systems raw data and found another criteria that looked interesting. So I tried it with the NFL for that day and those picks went 7-1-1, as opposed to my original picks that went 3-3. With this new system, 3 of the 7 wins were the same, and  2 new wins came from picking the opposing teams I lost (Ind and Atl). 1 loss, NE, stayed the same, and 1 other win was NYG. 
    This isn't much to go on, but I want to track it this week for both college and NFL. I also capped these games with the system I've been using. 

    College regular system 

    USF +5.5 ~ pk

    OkSt  -10 ~ -10

    AzSt -3 ~ -6

    College new system
    (all of these plays have good value so another point higher should not matter)

    NIL -3

    Mem pk

    ULL +3

    Mizz +2 

    Duke +29.5

    These plays also have some value, not as much as the plays above, but I'm not sure where the minimum value should be set.
    Lou -3.5
    Tex +13.5
    Marsh -4.5
    Stan +3
    MiSt +5
    UtSt +3


    NFL regular system

    Hou -3 ~ -3

    KC -3 ~ -3

    Cin -6 ~ -7

    TB -2.5 ~ -5


    NFL new system
    (all of these plays have high value so a few points more should not matter)

    Jax +3

    KC -3

    Oak +2.5

    Ind +6

    Car +3

    Miami +3

    Sea +2.5

    Dal +1

    These plays also have some value, not as much as the plays above, but I'm not sure where the minimum value should be set.
    Min +6.5
    Det +2.5
    StL +6
    NYG +3 


     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2013 - 2:28 AM ET #273

    Sorry if some of these picks are contradicting, or confusing. I could have kept this new system to myself and waited until it could be proved to be a viable system, but it was too darn interesting. Anyway, I will bet small on every play from both systems; where both teams are picked from the same game, I'll default to the new system: Jax and Ind. College has no conflicting plays. 
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    Sorry if some of these picks are contradicting, or confusing. I could have kept this new system to myself and waited until it could be proved to be a viable system, but it was too darn interesting. Anyway, I will bet small on every play from both systems; where both teams are picked from the same game, I'll default to the new system: Jax and Ind. College has no conflicting plays. 
    GL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2013 - 2:59 AM ET #274

    I will probably eliminate USF from my picks. Just too weak of a team with new issues for me to bet on. They are 4-0 ATS away, but going to 30 degree weather from Tampa might be too much to stay within 6 points.
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    I will probably eliminate USF from my picks. Just too weak of a team with new issues for me to bet on. They are 4-0 ATS away, but going to 30 degree weather from Tampa might be too much to stay within 6 points.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2013 - 6:24 AM ET #275

    Always,,, thanks for sharing Grateful

    Have you back checked the new tweak in the system??

    I like the Carolina play....it seems this year when a team has a bad game everyone jumps on them the following week  thinking they will have a rebound game and yet that team loses again.   Public will be all over NO at home following that horrid game in Seattle.

    Same thing happened with KC after its loss to Denver came home to play SD and gave up a 30 point lead and Detroit against Pitt came back to host TB at home and stunk up the joint.

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    Always,,, thanks for sharing Grateful

    Have you back checked the new tweak in the system??

    I like the Carolina play....it seems this year when a team has a bad game everyone jumps on them the following week  thinking they will have a rebound game and yet that team loses again.   Public will be all over NO at home following that horrid game in Seattle.

    Same thing happened with KC after its loss to Denver came home to play SD and gave up a 30 point lead and Detroit against Pitt came back to host TB at home and stunk up the joint.

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