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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 10:15 AM ET #526

    Viva Le France!!!

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    Viva Le France!!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 10:35 AM ET #527

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 10:35 AM ET #528

    long way to go with ten men
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 11:54 AM ET #529

    Vanz  ..You are the Man.
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 11:58 AM ET #530

    On a roll, so glad I'm tailing these bets.
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    On a roll, so glad I'm tailing these bets.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:01 PM ET #531

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:01 PM ET #532

    Quote Originally Posted by XPinion:

    On a roll, so glad I'm tailing these bets.

    Did you tail Nigeria/Greece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPinion:

    On a roll, so glad I'm tailing these bets.

    Did you tail Nigeria/Greece?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:03 PM ET #533

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Anyone pick up on Ian Darke's (British announcer for Argentina game on ESPN) said:

    "Maradona won the 1986 World Cup 'singlehandedly'"

    Those Brits dont forget....

    very cheeky

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Anyone pick up on Ian Darke's (British announcer for Argentina game on ESPN) said:

    "Maradona won the 1986 World Cup 'singlehandedly'"

    Those Brits dont forget....

    very cheeky

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:04 PM ET #534

    France is pk -180    -1/2 +115 at my book, I would appreciate your thoughts on this if you get a chance. I noticed you had france +138 is that -.5? Thanks Van
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    France is pk -180    -1/2 +115 at my book, I would appreciate your thoughts on this if you get a chance. I noticed you had france +138 is that -.5? Thanks Van
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:07 PM ET #535

    Thats a 2-0 start, and Nigeria hanging on by a thread to advance will help my future on them NOT to advance.....

    GO FRANCE

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    Thats a 2-0 start, and Nigeria hanging on by a thread to advance will help my future on them NOT to advance.....

    GO FRANCE

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:08 PM ET #536

    Quote Originally Posted by big10buckeye:

    France is pk -180    -1/2 +115 at my book, I would appreciate your thoughts on this if you get a chance. I noticed you had france +138 is that -.5? Thanks Van

    That is France to win (-.5).

    I think they win today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big10buckeye:

    France is pk -180    -1/2 +115 at my book, I would appreciate your thoughts on this if you get a chance. I noticed you had france +138 is that -.5? Thanks Van

    That is France to win (-.5).

    I think they win today.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:09 PM ET #537

    BOL  Keep the great info and picks comming
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:16 PM ET #538

    Van, not sure if you answered this already but what line did you get for Slovenia +0.5?  My books range from an aweful -138 to a moderate -123.  Thanks.

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    Van, not sure if you answered this already but what line did you get for Slovenia +0.5?  My books range from an aweful -138 to a moderate -123.  Thanks.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:20 PM ET #539

    Thanks Van Good luck
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:22 PM ET #540

    Quote Originally Posted by madashman:

    Van, not sure if you answered this already but what line did you get for Slovenia +0.5?  My books range from an aweful -138 to a moderate -123.  Thanks.

    Yeah - I just saw I forgot to put up that line in my writeup....

    I got it at -116. 

    -138 is too much to pay I think, as I barely like it at -116.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madashman:

    Van, not sure if you answered this already but what line did you get for Slovenia +0.5?  My books range from an aweful -138 to a moderate -123.  Thanks.

    Yeah - I just saw I forgot to put up that line in my writeup....

    I got it at -116. 

    -138 is too much to pay I think, as I barely like it at -116.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 12:37 PM ET #541

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah - I just saw I forgot to put up that line in my writeup....

    I got it at -116. 

    -138 is too much to pay I think, as I barely like it at -116.

    Thanks.  I'm trying to get it at +310 to win and +240 to draw which should get me about -116 or so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah - I just saw I forgot to put up that line in my writeup....

    I got it at -116. 

    -138 is too much to pay I think, as I barely like it at -116.

    Thanks.  I'm trying to get it at +310 to win and +240 to draw which should get me about -116 or so...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:02 PM ET #543

     would you still play France at +120? I should of put it in last night when I did the Tina over,it was close to your line then,but has moved 17 cents.

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     would you still play France at +120? I should of put it in last night when I did the Tina over,it was close to your line then,but has moved 17 cents.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:02 PM ET #544

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Current Record 7-5
    Up +6.5 units

    Previous games...

    1.  SA / Mex over 2 -122 (1.5 units) -  PUSH
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units) - WIN
    3.  SK / Greec under 2 -103 (2 units) and 0-0 at +600 (.5 unit) - PUSH (lose .5 unit)
    4.  Argentina -200 (2 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    5.  USA / Eng over 2.5 +105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6.  SLV / ALG - no bet
    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units) - LOSS
    8.  Australia +1 +106 (1 unit) - LOSS
    9.  Netherlands -180 (1 unit) - WIN
    10.  Cameroon +112 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    11.  Paraguay +.5 (2.5 units) - WIN
    12.  Slovakia -.5 -200 (risked 1 unit) - LOSS
    13.  Ivory Coast / PTGL - no bet
    14.  Bzl / NK - no bet
    15.  Chile (2 units) - WIN
    16.  Switz +1.5 (.5 unit) - WIN
    17.  Uruguay PK -140 (5 units) - WIN

    Futures...

    1.  Uruguay to advance +110 (2 units)
    2.  Uruguay to win group A +400 (.5 unit)
    3.  Argentina to win group B -220 (2 units)
    4.  Nigeria NOT to advance -118 (2 units)
    5.  England to win group C -320 (2 units)
    6.  USA NOT to advance +112 (3 units)
    7.  Serbia to win group D +330 (.5 unit)
    8.  Germany NOT to advance +387 (.5 unit)
    9.  Netherlands to win group E -145 (4 units)
    10.  Denmark to advance +105 (1 unit)
    11.  Japan zero points +360 (1 unit) - LOSS
    12.  Paraguay win group F +340 (1.5 units)
    13.  NZ no poings +100 (1 unit) - SICK LOSS
    14.  Portugal to advane -110 (1.5 units)
    15.  NK zero points -140 (2 units)
    16.  Switz to advance +160 (1 unit)
    17.  Argentina to win tournament +725 (6 units risked)
    18.  Argentina / Neth final +3300 (.5 unit)
    19.  No african team to advance +1200 (1 unit)
    20.  No african team qtr finals +165 (2 units)

    Thursday June 17

    18.  Argentina / Korea - Over 2.5 +108 (1 unit) - I guess you have to have balls or stupidity to bet an over on this tournament, but this might be a good spot to start.  Argentina should have scored a bunch against Nigeria - good goalkeeping kept them from converting - along with first game mistakes.  I fully expect to see S Korea playing for a draw here - as that result would greatly help them qualify for the next round - and I think that style will hurt them here.  Once the Argentines score - the game will open up greatly - but as we saw today with N Korea a team that wants to play defensively can often keep a team at bay for long periods of time.  Im banking on an Argentina goal in the first half, and open play from there - I do think Argentina wins this game but the price is too steep for me - so a small bet on the over for me.  Final score prediction Argentina 2-1.

    19.  Nigeria / Greece - Greece +.5 -109 (2 units) - Once again, sticking to my pretournament guns on this one.  I dont think Greece is as bad as they looked against SK, and I dont think Nigeria is as good as they looked against Argentina.  And that presents a good betting line.  I am most concerned that Greece might press out of their usual defensive tactic and try to be something they are not - but Nigeria will be doing the same as both of these teams need a win - a draw wont suit either terribly well (although it is better for NIgeria than Greece).  This is another hold my balls and cough plays - Predicted final score Greece 1 Nigeria 1.

    20.  France / Mexico - France +138 (3 units risked) - I think the line has finally risen above value for France - based on the perception (rightfully so) that they cant play together.  But I think that Mexico's defensive lapses will provide the open door that France needs to pull it together.  Mexico will be overmatched - and the lack of playmaking that we saw against S Africa will kill them here - France is disciplined on defense and will not let up a goal like S Africa did because of lack of concentration.  France individual talent lifts them here - Predicted final score France 2-0.

    NOTE - I HAVE BUMPED UP FRANCE FROM 1.5 UNITS TO 3 UNITS.  I THINK THEY THRASH MEXICO TOMORROW.

     

    Friday June 18

    21.  Germany / Serbia - Serbia +.5 +140 (1 unit) - This line has crept down, mostly because it started way too high based on Germany's first performance (which was undeniably great), and Serbia's first performance (which was undeniably awful).  Germany is everyones "best team" at the WC so far - a label that often does not translate in to long term success (ask the Dutch, or the Italians).  So Im going with my pretournament feeling on this one - and betting in to a value line that is way too high.  If Germany come out and control the possession like they did against Australia and pass at 85%+, they will win, but I look for a desperate Serbia team to come out with something to prove and look to be more offensive and not just sit back like they did much of the Ghana game.  Next week, everyone will have a new "best team".  Predicted final score Germany 1 Serbia 1.

    22.  USA / Slovenia -   Slovenia +.5 (1 unit) - I will go against my heart here, and gladly lose this one to see the USA go on to win.  I just dont see how the USA wins this game outright 56 out of 100 times.  Both teams will think they have to win - the USA really could get a draw out of this and feel OK about their chances to advance, but Slovenia needs a win here - a draw doesnt suit them so well with England on deck.  I just dont buy in to the USA being able to create enough open play to create chances on net - and I still feel that they are very vulnerable at the back - even with Howards tremendous play.  I hope the USA win, but my head tells me that taking the odds here is the right play.  Final predicted score - USA 1 Slovenia 1

    23.  England / Algeria - Over 2.5 +108 (1 unit) - At the risk of repeating myself, England dont have a defense, and on top of that Ledley King is now out of the tournament, leaving a back line that is plugging holes and bailing water.  England can and will score, and Algeria will feel a sense of urgency with their first round loss - and cant afford to sit back and defend.  There should be lots of open play in this one.  After this one, everyone will think England is back.  Predicted Final score - England 3 Algeria 1.

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    2-0 today....let go France
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Current Record 7-5
    Up +6.5 units

    Previous games...

    1.  SA / Mex over 2 -122 (1.5 units) -  PUSH
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units) - WIN
    3.  SK / Greec under 2 -103 (2 units) and 0-0 at +600 (.5 unit) - PUSH (lose .5 unit)
    4.  Argentina -200 (2 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    5.  USA / Eng over 2.5 +105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6.  SLV / ALG - no bet
    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units) - LOSS
    8.  Australia +1 +106 (1 unit) - LOSS
    9.  Netherlands -180 (1 unit) - WIN
    10.  Cameroon +112 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    11.  Paraguay +.5 (2.5 units) - WIN
    12.  Slovakia -.5 -200 (risked 1 unit) - LOSS
    13.  Ivory Coast / PTGL - no bet
    14.  Bzl / NK - no bet
    15.  Chile (2 units) - WIN
    16.  Switz +1.5 (.5 unit) - WIN
    17.  Uruguay PK -140 (5 units) - WIN

    Futures...

    1.  Uruguay to advance +110 (2 units)
    2.  Uruguay to win group A +400 (.5 unit)
    3.  Argentina to win group B -220 (2 units)
    4.  Nigeria NOT to advance -118 (2 units)
    5.  England to win group C -320 (2 units)
    6.  USA NOT to advance +112 (3 units)
    7.  Serbia to win group D +330 (.5 unit)
    8.  Germany NOT to advance +387 (.5 unit)
    9.  Netherlands to win group E -145 (4 units)
    10.  Denmark to advance +105 (1 unit)
    11.  Japan zero points +360 (1 unit) - LOSS
    12.  Paraguay win group F +340 (1.5 units)
    13.  NZ no poings +100 (1 unit) - SICK LOSS
    14.  Portugal to advane -110 (1.5 units)
    15.  NK zero points -140 (2 units)
    16.  Switz to advance +160 (1 unit)
    17.  Argentina to win tournament +725 (6 units risked)
    18.  Argentina / Neth final +3300 (.5 unit)
    19.  No african team to advance +1200 (1 unit)
    20.  No african team qtr finals +165 (2 units)

    Thursday June 17

    18.  Argentina / Korea - Over 2.5 +108 (1 unit) - I guess you have to have balls or stupidity to bet an over on this tournament, but this might be a good spot to start.  Argentina should have scored a bunch against Nigeria - good goalkeeping kept them from converting - along with first game mistakes.  I fully expect to see S Korea playing for a draw here - as that result would greatly help them qualify for the next round - and I think that style will hurt them here.  Once the Argentines score - the game will open up greatly - but as we saw today with N Korea a team that wants to play defensively can often keep a team at bay for long periods of time.  Im banking on an Argentina goal in the first half, and open play from there - I do think Argentina wins this game but the price is too steep for me - so a small bet on the over for me.  Final score prediction Argentina 2-1.

    19.  Nigeria / Greece - Greece +.5 -109 (2 units) - Once again, sticking to my pretournament guns on this one.  I dont think Greece is as bad as they looked against SK, and I dont think Nigeria is as good as they looked against Argentina.  And that presents a good betting line.  I am most concerned that Greece might press out of their usual defensive tactic and try to be something they are not - but Nigeria will be doing the same as both of these teams need a win - a draw wont suit either terribly well (although it is better for NIgeria than Greece).  This is another hold my balls and cough plays - Predicted final score Greece 1 Nigeria 1.

    20.  France / Mexico - France +138 (3 units risked) - I think the line has finally risen above value for France - based on the perception (rightfully so) that they cant play together.  But I think that Mexico's defensive lapses will provide the open door that France needs to pull it together.  Mexico will be overmatched - and the lack of playmaking that we saw against S Africa will kill them here - France is disciplined on defense and will not let up a goal like S Africa did because of lack of concentration.  France individual talent lifts them here - Predicted final score France 2-0.

    NOTE - I HAVE BUMPED UP FRANCE FROM 1.5 UNITS TO 3 UNITS.  I THINK THEY THRASH MEXICO TOMORROW.

     

    Friday June 18

    21.  Germany / Serbia - Serbia +.5 +140 (1 unit) - This line has crept down, mostly because it started way too high based on Germany's first performance (which was undeniably great), and Serbia's first performance (which was undeniably awful).  Germany is everyones "best team" at the WC so far - a label that often does not translate in to long term success (ask the Dutch, or the Italians).  So Im going with my pretournament feeling on this one - and betting in to a value line that is way too high.  If Germany come out and control the possession like they did against Australia and pass at 85%+, they will win, but I look for a desperate Serbia team to come out with something to prove and look to be more offensive and not just sit back like they did much of the Ghana game.  Next week, everyone will have a new "best team".  Predicted final score Germany 1 Serbia 1.

    22.  USA / Slovenia -   Slovenia +.5 (1 unit) - I will go against my heart here, and gladly lose this one to see the USA go on to win.  I just dont see how the USA wins this game outright 56 out of 100 times.  Both teams will think they have to win - the USA really could get a draw out of this and feel OK about their chances to advance, but Slovenia needs a win here - a draw doesnt suit them so well with England on deck.  I just dont buy in to the USA being able to create enough open play to create chances on net - and I still feel that they are very vulnerable at the back - even with Howards tremendous play.  I hope the USA win, but my head tells me that taking the odds here is the right play.  Final predicted score - USA 1 Slovenia 1

    23.  England / Algeria - Over 2.5 +108 (1 unit) - At the risk of repeating myself, England dont have a defense, and on top of that Ledley King is now out of the tournament, leaving a back line that is plugging holes and bailing water.  England can and will score, and Algeria will feel a sense of urgency with their first round loss - and cant afford to sit back and defend.  There should be lots of open play in this one.  After this one, everyone will think England is back.  Predicted Final score - England 3 Algeria 1.

    GL all



    2-0 today....let go France
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:04 PM ET #545

    My local has the France total at 2.5 still.  what to do, what to do! 
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:13 PM ET #546

    van i have france at +135 already... my draw line is +210...
    what can i bet to get france not to lose?
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    van i have france at +135 already... my draw line is +210...
    what can i bet to get france not to lose?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:21 PM ET #547

    my pk line is at -185 can i get better than that?
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:28 PM ET #548

    Quote Originally Posted by tmpeus78:

    My local has the France total at 2.5 still.  what to do, what to do! 

    Go with your gut.....but i would play over 2 -110 @ BetJam or 5Dimes has it o/2 -101 & o/2.5 +170......sooo tempting to take that +170 with 5Dimes....but no sticking with my single bet...BOL ON YOUR DECISION!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmpeus78:

    My local has the France total at 2.5 still.  what to do, what to do! 

    Go with your gut.....but i would play over 2 -110 @ BetJam or 5Dimes has it o/2 -101 & o/2.5 +170......sooo tempting to take that +170 with 5Dimes....but no sticking with my single bet...BOL ON YOUR DECISION!!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:40 PM ET #549

    worried that France doesn't NEED to win and may play for the draw. They have SA on deck (easy win) and Mexico will have to beat Uruguay to advance. Mexico needs to win this game more than France does.... 
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    worried that France doesn't NEED to win and may play for the draw. They have SA on deck (easy win) and Mexico will have to beat Uruguay to advance. Mexico needs to win this game more than France does.... 
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2010 - 1:43 PM ET #550

    Checked the lineup, Henry isnt in, is he going to even play today?
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