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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 12:13 PM ET #951

    Based on your write up and final score prediction on Portugal/Brazil I decided to play the under  

    Thanks for the time and effort you've put into the World Cup so far. Much appreciated

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    Based on your write up and final score prediction on Portugal/Brazil I decided to play the under  

    Thanks for the time and effort you've put into the World Cup so far. Much appreciated

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 12:57 PM ET #952

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Friday June 25

    45.  Ivory Coast / N Korea - Over 2.5 -110 (2 units) - This game points to over for me for a number of reasons.  North Korea has already proven that they play in high goal affairs - playing in a 3 goal game and a 7 goal game - especially once the first goal is scored.  They did hold Brazil down in the first game, but once the first Brazil goal came, and NK had to be more industrious, the game opened up.  The situation here is what really dictates and over though - as Ivory Coast needs a ton of goals.  There is talk that they will start 3 dedicated strikers up front, and they will be attack minded all day - there wont be any sitting on the ball if they get up 2-0 - they will try to run it up.  And I also think the NK side will be more open too - they have nothing to lose - and although a draw would be great for them - I see them on the back foot all day.  IC has had trouble getting opportunities - only finishing one in their first 2 games - but that was against Brazil and Portugal - this should be a whole lot different.  The quicker the first goal comes - the better for multiple goals afterwards - but I see them coming tomorrow.  Final score prediction CIV 4 NK 1.

    46.  Brazil / Portugal - No Bet - I dont see much to like here.  Although either of these two teams win the group with a win, actually winning this group might or might not be a good thing with the uncertainty of where Spain will finish in their group.  I cant see either side being too motivated here - except Portugal to not let up multiple goals - and I dont even think Brazil will be of that mindset either.  People were talking of the Uruguay / Mexico game as a possible fix / agreement because of the situation - but this one seems even worse to me as I dont see any motivation on either side here - anything could happen - unless CIV is up 6-0 in the first half of their game.  Count me out.  Final score prediction Brazil 0 Portugal 0.   

    47.   Switzerland / Honduras - Switzerland -186 (2 units) Switzerland -1 -106 (1 unit) - The Swiss enter this game knowing that if they win by 2 goals, they go through.  There is a good likelihood that this group will end with three teams on 6 points, and all three of those candidates control their own destiny entering the final game.  Honduras has played 2 games, and has had 2 shots on goal.  Yes - 2 shots in 2 games.  They have looked disorganized, inept, and against Spain they could have easily let up 10 goals.  I expect them to be in "go for broke" mode against Switzerland - but guess what - you picked the wrong team to do that against.  The Swiss have proven again this tournament that they are one of the best defensive teams in the world - yes the world - finally giving up their first goal in the 70th minute last game in their last 5 WC games - and that was playing 60 minutes with 10 men.  The Swiss havent been an offensive powerhouse either - but I think there are good reasons for that - they got up 1-0 on Spain in the first half and sat on the lead - and they lost a man at 30 mins against Chile and tried to sit on a draw.  But their future is in their hands - and if they win by 2 they go through no matter what happens in the other game - and I dont see Honduras stopping them in any way.  Senderos is out, but Frei is in.  The Swiss keep a clean sheet and advance. Final score prediction Switzerland 2 Honduras 0

    48.  Spain / Chile - Spain -200 (2 units) Spain -1 -120 (1 unit).  Chile advances with a win or a draw, and is most likely out - even with 6 points - with a loss unless they lose by exactly 1 goal and the Swiss win by exactly 1 goal and the Swiss score exactly one goal more than Chile - they would go to a lottery with the Swiss.  So if the Swiss win, Chile basically at least needs to draw to have hope.  Chile has had a strange 2 games so far - totally dominating Honduras - hitting 20 shots - a bunch on net - but only scoring one goal.  In the other game - same situation - a ton of chances but only scoring one against ten men Switzerland - and almost giving up the equalizer in the 90th minute (one of the worst misses of the tournament so far).  Amazingly, Chiles goalkeeper has only made 3 saves in 2 games.  That changes tomorrow.  Spain have also had finishing problems - taking target practice on both the Swiss and Honduras - but only netting 2.  I think the big problem in this game is that Chile is a run and gun team - with a score more than you mentality - but they might think they need to defend in this one.  That wont work against Spain - and once Spain scores once - an open game presents a talent mismatch for Chile.  Spain should be starting Torres and Villa up front, and if they do what they did in their first two games in the midfield they will find the net multiple times.  Sadly, Chile is going home - they dont deserve it - but fall victim to goal differential in a tough group.  Final score prediciton Spain 3 Chile 1.

    GL all.  Almost time to let this thread die a well deserved and honored death - the knockout round means a new thread.

    *****Corrected "2-1" to "2-0" in the Ivory Coast writeup.....



    First, great job Van.

    On pinny now:

    the swiss are -1 +100 and -180

    spain is -1 -101 and -180
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Friday June 25

    45.  Ivory Coast / N Korea - Over 2.5 -110 (2 units) - This game points to over for me for a number of reasons.  North Korea has already proven that they play in high goal affairs - playing in a 3 goal game and a 7 goal game - especially once the first goal is scored.  They did hold Brazil down in the first game, but once the first Brazil goal came, and NK had to be more industrious, the game opened up.  The situation here is what really dictates and over though - as Ivory Coast needs a ton of goals.  There is talk that they will start 3 dedicated strikers up front, and they will be attack minded all day - there wont be any sitting on the ball if they get up 2-0 - they will try to run it up.  And I also think the NK side will be more open too - they have nothing to lose - and although a draw would be great for them - I see them on the back foot all day.  IC has had trouble getting opportunities - only finishing one in their first 2 games - but that was against Brazil and Portugal - this should be a whole lot different.  The quicker the first goal comes - the better for multiple goals afterwards - but I see them coming tomorrow.  Final score prediction CIV 4 NK 1.

    46.  Brazil / Portugal - No Bet - I dont see much to like here.  Although either of these two teams win the group with a win, actually winning this group might or might not be a good thing with the uncertainty of where Spain will finish in their group.  I cant see either side being too motivated here - except Portugal to not let up multiple goals - and I dont even think Brazil will be of that mindset either.  People were talking of the Uruguay / Mexico game as a possible fix / agreement because of the situation - but this one seems even worse to me as I dont see any motivation on either side here - anything could happen - unless CIV is up 6-0 in the first half of their game.  Count me out.  Final score prediction Brazil 0 Portugal 0.   

    47.   Switzerland / Honduras - Switzerland -186 (2 units) Switzerland -1 -106 (1 unit) - The Swiss enter this game knowing that if they win by 2 goals, they go through.  There is a good likelihood that this group will end with three teams on 6 points, and all three of those candidates control their own destiny entering the final game.  Honduras has played 2 games, and has had 2 shots on goal.  Yes - 2 shots in 2 games.  They have looked disorganized, inept, and against Spain they could have easily let up 10 goals.  I expect them to be in "go for broke" mode against Switzerland - but guess what - you picked the wrong team to do that against.  The Swiss have proven again this tournament that they are one of the best defensive teams in the world - yes the world - finally giving up their first goal in the 70th minute last game in their last 5 WC games - and that was playing 60 minutes with 10 men.  The Swiss havent been an offensive powerhouse either - but I think there are good reasons for that - they got up 1-0 on Spain in the first half and sat on the lead - and they lost a man at 30 mins against Chile and tried to sit on a draw.  But their future is in their hands - and if they win by 2 they go through no matter what happens in the other game - and I dont see Honduras stopping them in any way.  Senderos is out, but Frei is in.  The Swiss keep a clean sheet and advance. Final score prediction Switzerland 2 Honduras 0

    48.  Spain / Chile - Spain -200 (2 units) Spain -1 -120 (1 unit).  Chile advances with a win or a draw, and is most likely out - even with 6 points - with a loss unless they lose by exactly 1 goal and the Swiss win by exactly 1 goal and the Swiss score exactly one goal more than Chile - they would go to a lottery with the Swiss.  So if the Swiss win, Chile basically at least needs to draw to have hope.  Chile has had a strange 2 games so far - totally dominating Honduras - hitting 20 shots - a bunch on net - but only scoring one goal.  In the other game - same situation - a ton of chances but only scoring one against ten men Switzerland - and almost giving up the equalizer in the 90th minute (one of the worst misses of the tournament so far).  Amazingly, Chiles goalkeeper has only made 3 saves in 2 games.  That changes tomorrow.  Spain have also had finishing problems - taking target practice on both the Swiss and Honduras - but only netting 2.  I think the big problem in this game is that Chile is a run and gun team - with a score more than you mentality - but they might think they need to defend in this one.  That wont work against Spain - and once Spain scores once - an open game presents a talent mismatch for Chile.  Spain should be starting Torres and Villa up front, and if they do what they did in their first two games in the midfield they will find the net multiple times.  Sadly, Chile is going home - they dont deserve it - but fall victim to goal differential in a tough group.  Final score prediciton Spain 3 Chile 1.

    GL all.  Almost time to let this thread die a well deserved and honored death - the knockout round means a new thread.

    *****Corrected "2-1" to "2-0" in the Ivory Coast writeup.....



    First, great job Van.

    On pinny now:

    the swiss are -1 +100 and -180

    spain is -1 -101 and -180
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 1:48 PM ET #953

    nice job on the morning games. played all four of your picks because I dont know shit about the pitch. thanks
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    nice job on the morning games. played all four of your picks because I dont know shit about the pitch. thanks
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 1:55 PM ET #954

    Thanks all.

    Very nice.

    Big games this afternoon.....

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    Thanks all.

    Very nice.

    Big games this afternoon.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 1:57 PM ET #955

    Quote Originally Posted by ruffcutter2006:



    First, great job Van.

    On pinny now:

    the swiss are -1 +100 and -180

    spain is -1 -101 and -180

    Yeah - I missed these line moves.

    Line moves for me at least are almost impossible to predict in WC - not enough history and not enough games to predict where they are going....

    When I see lines I like, I bet them - but certainly better lines are out there on both remaining games than the lines I got.

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    First, great job Van.

    On pinny now:

    the swiss are -1 +100 and -180

    spain is -1 -101 and -180

    Yeah - I missed these line moves.

    Line moves for me at least are almost impossible to predict in WC - not enough history and not enough games to predict where they are going....

    When I see lines I like, I bet them - but certainly better lines are out there on both remaining games than the lines I got.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 3:05 PM ET #956

    I'm no soccer expert, but this guy Torres for Spain has been 100% useless
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    I'm no soccer expert, but this guy Torres for Spain has been 100% useless
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 3:11 PM ET #957

    Just browsing as I'm not much of a soccer fan, but nice work.
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 4:23 PM ET #959

    Wow
    How did the swiss ever beat Spain?
    good day Van...congrats......


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    Wow
    How did the swiss ever beat Spain?
    good day Van...congrats......


     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 4:29 PM ET #960

    Quote Originally Posted by ghostkid:

    Wow
    How did the swiss ever beat Spain?
    good day Van...congrats......


    Spain is not good!  They will be an early exit in the knockout stage... fade fade fade fade fade......

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    Wow
    How did the swiss ever beat Spain?
    good day Van...congrats......


    Spain is not good!  They will be an early exit in the knockout stage... fade fade fade fade fade......

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 4:32 PM ET #961

    Good call on Spain. I got the push there. Won the over 2.5 though.

     

    Tough loss for both of us with the Swiss...

    Lookin forward to tomorrow!!!

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    Good call on Spain. I got the push there. Won the over 2.5 though.

     

    Tough loss for both of us with the Swiss...

    Lookin forward to tomorrow!!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 5:13 PM ET #963

    Just goes to show you, great defense does not win you championships in football.  You have to score.  Argentina is in the bracket of death, five of the teams are in the top ten world rankings.

    #2, #3, #6, #7, #8

    Here we go.

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    Just goes to show you, great defense does not win you championships in football.  You have to score.  Argentina is in the bracket of death, five of the teams are in the top ten world rankings.

    #2, #3, #6, #7, #8

    Here we go.

     
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    Really? defense DOESNT win 3rdpig? How many teams that have won the Cup didn't give up the least amount of goals?
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    Really? defense DOESNT win 3rdpig? How many teams that have won the Cup didn't give up the least amount of goals?
     
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    Of course defense wins you cups. Look at Inter. They won Champions League because of great defense, but also had offensive power to back it up with. The Swiss had no offense what-so-ever. And you don't win anything with no offense.
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    Of course defense wins you cups. Look at Inter. They won Champions League because of great defense, but also had offensive power to back it up with. The Swiss had no offense what-so-ever. And you don't win anything with no offense.
     
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    Time to put this thread to rest.....

    Final thread tallies:

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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 9:10 PM ET #967

    Nice job van
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2010 - 9:20 PM ET #968

    Can't wait to see your picks for the KO stages Van. See you in the next thread!
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    Can't wait to see your picks for the KO stages Van. See you in the next thread!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2010 - 12:37 PM ET #969

    Quote Originally Posted by bracks:

    Really? defense DOESNT win 3rdpig? How many teams that have won the Cup didn't give up the least amount of goals?

    Or how about putting another way, how many teams won the cup scored more goals than the other team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bracks:

    Really? defense DOESNT win 3rdpig? How many teams that have won the Cup didn't give up the least amount of goals?

    Or how about putting another way, how many teams won the cup scored more goals than the other team?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2010 - 12:38 PM ET #970

    Quote Originally Posted by thabeest:

    Of course defense wins you cups. Look at Inter. They won Champions League because of great defense, but also had offensive power to back it up with. The Swiss had no offense what-so-ever. And you don't win anything with no offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thabeest:

    Of course defense wins you cups. Look at Inter. They won Champions League because of great defense, but also had offensive power to back it up with. The Swiss had no offense what-so-ever. And you don't win anything with no offense.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2010 - 9:11 AM ET #971

    frist angetina will win nothing.brazil is the only team,

    i just can not stand anymore people who don not know soccer anytalk alot

    6/27  england pk over germany  mex game go over 2

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    frist angetina will win nothing.brazil is the only team,

    i just can not stand anymore people who don not know soccer anytalk alot

    6/27  england pk over germany  mex game go over 2

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