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    DiverRon
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:30 PM ET #451

    Van:

    Love your plays and writeups!
    Nice work!

    Funny as shit because I pulled the tirgger on the URUGUAY
    PK before I read this. Go figure!
    Let's get em!

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    Van:

    Love your plays and writeups!
    Nice work!

    Funny as shit because I pulled the tirgger on the URUGUAY
    PK before I read this. Go figure!
    Let's get em!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:32 PM ET #452

    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Okay fair enough.

    I think I assigned a much higher probability to the chances of Switzerland drawing with Honduras. If the Swiss draw with Chile, then all they will need against Honduras is a draw. So I thought they might play quite defensively against Honduras, playing for a draw at worst.

    Anyway, really appreciate the insight. I'm sure your predictions on how this group will play out have a better chance of occurring than mine do.

    My guess is that if the Swiss need to win in their last game, which is almost a sure thing - that the line will be about -175 for them to win.

    Just a guess, but I think that is probably about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Okay fair enough.

    I think I assigned a much higher probability to the chances of Switzerland drawing with Honduras. If the Swiss draw with Chile, then all they will need against Honduras is a draw. So I thought they might play quite defensively against Honduras, playing for a draw at worst.

    Anyway, really appreciate the insight. I'm sure your predictions on how this group will play out have a better chance of occurring than mine do.

    My guess is that if the Swiss need to win in their last game, which is almost a sure thing - that the line will be about -175 for them to win.

    Just a guess, but I think that is probably about right.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:35 PM ET #453

    Van, I have another question if you have some time to kill.

    Let's say Brazil beats the Ivory Coast in their 2nd game and Portugal beats N. Korea. This would mean that after 2 games Brazil will be sure of advancing. If at this point it looks like Spain have a good chance at finishing 2nd, is there any chance Brazil will play subs or something against Portugal....since if they lost they would come 2nd and wouldn't have to face Spain in the Round of 16? I guess the same could be said for Portugal, although they would need at least a draw against Brazil to advance.

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    Van, I have another question if you have some time to kill.

    Let's say Brazil beats the Ivory Coast in their 2nd game and Portugal beats N. Korea. This would mean that after 2 games Brazil will be sure of advancing. If at this point it looks like Spain have a good chance at finishing 2nd, is there any chance Brazil will play subs or something against Portugal....since if they lost they would come 2nd and wouldn't have to face Spain in the Round of 16? I guess the same could be said for Portugal, although they would need at least a draw against Brazil to advance.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:36 PM ET #454

    Believe it or not that is me in the picture!
    (Probably 1 of the very few on covers that has their actual pic posted although it is intentionally difficult to identify me from the picture.)
    Want to take me on your sailboat sometime?
    I'll get you some fish and lobster!
    Been doing it since I was 11 when older brother put a sling in my hand.

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    Believe it or not that is me in the picture!
    (Probably 1 of the very few on covers that has their actual pic posted although it is intentionally difficult to identify me from the picture.)
    Want to take me on your sailboat sometime?
    I'll get you some fish and lobster!
    Been doing it since I was 11 when older brother put a sling in my hand.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:39 PM ET #455

    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Van, I have another question if you have some time to kill.

    Let's say Brazil beats the Ivory Coast in their 2nd game and Portugal beats N. Korea. This would mean that after 2 games Brazil will be sure of advancing. If at this point it looks like Spain have a good chance at finishing 2nd, is there any chance Brazil will play subs or something against Portugal....since if they lost they would come 2nd and wouldn't have to face Spain in the Round of 16? I guess the same could be said for Portugal, although they would need at least a draw against Brazil to advance.

    That seems like a lot of things need to come together.

    Lets table this thought until after the next round - but it is interesting - but lets see if the scenario even plays out.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Van, I have another question if you have some time to kill.

    Let's say Brazil beats the Ivory Coast in their 2nd game and Portugal beats N. Korea. This would mean that after 2 games Brazil will be sure of advancing. If at this point it looks like Spain have a good chance at finishing 2nd, is there any chance Brazil will play subs or something against Portugal....since if they lost they would come 2nd and wouldn't have to face Spain in the Round of 16? I guess the same could be said for Portugal, although they would need at least a draw against Brazil to advance.

    That seems like a lot of things need to come together.

    Lets table this thought until after the next round - but it is interesting - but lets see if the scenario even plays out.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:43 PM ET #456

    haha, alright sounds good. I do tend to get caught up predicting how things will turn out in the future based on different scenarios.
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    haha, alright sounds good. I do tend to get caught up predicting how things will turn out in the future based on different scenarios.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:05 PM ET #457

    Van:

    I have lines of Uruguay +135, RSA +200 and Draw +115.  I am looking to put 2 units on Uruguay PK--would you mind calculating the line  and what i would have to bet?  I have no idea how you did it in Post 438 but it seems like you have the math down pat.  Thanks in advance.
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    Van:

    I have lines of Uruguay +135, RSA +200 and Draw +115.  I am looking to put 2 units on Uruguay PK--would you mind calculating the line  and what i would have to bet?  I have no idea how you did it in Post 438 but it seems like you have the math down pat.  Thanks in advance.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:07 PM ET #458

    Quote Originally Posted by zorokegger:

    Van:

    I have lines of Uruguay +135, RSA +200 and Draw +115.  I am looking to put 2 units on Uruguay PK--would you mind calculating the line  and what i would have to bet?  I have no idea how you did it in Post 438 but it seems like you have the math down pat.  Thanks in advance.

    Draw +115?  Are you sure about that?

    Honestly, if those are your lines, you are getting raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorokegger:

    Van:

    I have lines of Uruguay +135, RSA +200 and Draw +115.  I am looking to put 2 units on Uruguay PK--would you mind calculating the line  and what i would have to bet?  I have no idea how you did it in Post 438 but it seems like you have the math down pat.  Thanks in advance.

    Draw +115?  Are you sure about that?

    Honestly, if those are your lines, you are getting raped.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:09 PM ET #459

    Quote Originally Posted by zorokegger:

    Van:

    I have lines of Uruguay +135, RSA +200 and Draw +115.  I am looking to put 2 units on Uruguay PK--would you mind calculating the line  and what i would have to bet?  I have no idea how you did it in Post 438 but it seems like you have the math down pat.  Thanks in advance.

    If those are your lines, you would be paying -389 to get Uruguay at a PK - real line is about -145.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorokegger:

    Van:

    I have lines of Uruguay +135, RSA +200 and Draw +115.  I am looking to put 2 units on Uruguay PK--would you mind calculating the line  and what i would have to bet?  I have no idea how you did it in Post 438 but it seems like you have the math down pat.  Thanks in advance.

    If those are your lines, you would be paying -389 to get Uruguay at a PK - real line is about -145.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:09 PM ET #460

    shit i mean draw +215
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    shit i mean draw +215
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:09 PM ET #461

    You can get Uruguay PK at Matchbook right now at -135.

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    You can get Uruguay PK at Matchbook right now at -135.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #462

    100 on Uruguay win +135
    46.51 on Draw +215

    You are getting a line of Uruguay PK -165.

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    100 on Uruguay win +135
    46.51 on Draw +215

    You are getting a line of Uruguay PK -165.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:12 PM ET #463

    Unfortunately i use a local, with +215 draw, +135 uruguay and +200 S. Africa, what am i looking at, about -150?
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    Unfortunately i use a local, with +215 draw, +135 uruguay and +200 S. Africa, what am i looking at, about -150?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:13 PM ET #464

    I got Switzerland-Spain-Chile-Honduras after the upset for 13-1 odds and Spain-Switzerland-Chile-Honduras for +365.

    The way I see it the Swiss HAVE TO move on after this upset. Also, Spain will now slaughter Honduras and get their differential back, and I don't think Chile has the striking quality to crack through the Swiss defense. 

    To me a Chile-Swiss tie is advantage Swiss. And with live betting, if it appears Chile have the upper hand I can always bet them and get my money back.


    Here's a question for you van: If Spain are either out or finish 2nd, and with Italy losing Buffon probably for the rest of the cup, what exactly is going to be on the right side to move on? 

    To me Germany and potentially the Ivory Coast look like prime contenders to go to at least the last 4 now.

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    I got Switzerland-Spain-Chile-Honduras after the upset for 13-1 odds and Spain-Switzerland-Chile-Honduras for +365.

    The way I see it the Swiss HAVE TO move on after this upset. Also, Spain will now slaughter Honduras and get their differential back, and I don't think Chile has the striking quality to crack through the Swiss defense. 

    To me a Chile-Swiss tie is advantage Swiss. And with live betting, if it appears Chile have the upper hand I can always bet them and get my money back.


    Here's a question for you van: If Spain are either out or finish 2nd, and with Italy losing Buffon probably for the rest of the cup, what exactly is going to be on the right side to move on? 

    To me Germany and potentially the Ivory Coast look like prime contenders to go to at least the last 4 now.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:13 PM ET #465

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    100 on Uruguay win +135
    46.51 on Draw +215

    You are getting a line of Uruguay PK -165.


    Much appreciated.  Good luck on your Uruguay wager. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    100 on Uruguay win +135
    46.51 on Draw +215

    You are getting a line of Uruguay PK -165.


    Much appreciated.  Good luck on your Uruguay wager. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:19 PM ET #466

    One more quick one Van: 1h lines of Uruguay +240, Draw Even, RSA +320, what line am I looking at in the 1h for Uruguay pk?
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    One more quick one Van: 1h lines of Uruguay +240, Draw Even, RSA +320, what line am I looking at in the 1h for Uruguay pk?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djcfl1:

    I got Switzerland-Spain-Chile-Honduras after the upset for 13-1 odds and Spain-Switzerland-Chile-Honduras for +365.

    The way I see it the Swiss HAVE TO move on after this upset. Also, Spain will now slaughter Honduras and get their differential back, and I don't think Chile has the striking quality to crack through the Swiss defense. 

    To me a Chile-Swiss tie is advantage Swiss. And with live betting, if it appears Chile have the upper hand I can always bet them and get my money back.


    Here's a question for you van: If Spain are either out or finish 2nd, and with Italy losing Buffon probably for the rest of the cup, what exactly is going to be on the right side to move on? 

    To me Germany and potentially the Ivory Coast look like prime contenders to go to at least the last 4 now.

    A Chile / Swiss (that makes me hungry) draw is definitely an advantage to the Swiss.

    Germany would have to beat Argentina - and I personally think Argentina will win that game.  But your point is well taken - and I wrote about it in the original preview in this thread - we have a big chance of a VERY unbalanced bracket.  The lower part of the bracket might be Paraguay and Switzerland, to play the winner of the Argentina Germany game in the Semis.

    Im not sold on the Ivory Coast - they still have to beat out Portugal, but if they do that second place will look much better than the first place in that group ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by djcfl1:

    I got Switzerland-Spain-Chile-Honduras after the upset for 13-1 odds and Spain-Switzerland-Chile-Honduras for +365.

    The way I see it the Swiss HAVE TO move on after this upset. Also, Spain will now slaughter Honduras and get their differential back, and I don't think Chile has the striking quality to crack through the Swiss defense. 

    To me a Chile-Swiss tie is advantage Swiss. And with live betting, if it appears Chile have the upper hand I can always bet them and get my money back.


    Here's a question for you van: If Spain are either out or finish 2nd, and with Italy losing Buffon probably for the rest of the cup, what exactly is going to be on the right side to move on? 

    To me Germany and potentially the Ivory Coast look like prime contenders to go to at least the last 4 now.

    A Chile / Swiss (that makes me hungry) draw is definitely an advantage to the Swiss.

    Germany would have to beat Argentina - and I personally think Argentina will win that game.  But your point is well taken - and I wrote about it in the original preview in this thread - we have a big chance of a VERY unbalanced bracket.  The lower part of the bracket might be Paraguay and Switzerland, to play the winner of the Argentina Germany game in the Semis.

    Im not sold on the Ivory Coast - they still have to beat out Portugal, but if they do that second place will look much better than the first place in that group ......

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:21 PM ET #468

    Quote Originally Posted by zorokegger:

    One more quick one Van: 1h lines of Uruguay +240, Draw Even, RSA +320, what line am I looking at in the 1h for Uruguay pk?

    100 Uruguay
    100 Draw

    -143

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorokegger:

    One more quick one Van: 1h lines of Uruguay +240, Draw Even, RSA +320, what line am I looking at in the 1h for Uruguay pk?

    100 Uruguay
    100 Draw

    -143

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:23 PM ET #469

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    100 Uruguay
    100 Draw

    -143


    Wow my book sucks.  About .30 cents worse than matchbook.  Fuck me for using a local.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    100 Uruguay
    100 Draw

    -143


    Wow my book sucks.  About .30 cents worse than matchbook.  Fuck me for using a local.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:27 PM ET #470

    https://www.absoluteodds.com/calculator.aspx

    Bottom left double chance calculator is a useful one


    Good luck with your bets, van. Nice start with 2-0 already today.
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    https://www.absoluteodds.com/calculator.aspx

    Bottom left double chance calculator is a useful one


    Good luck with your bets, van. Nice start with 2-0 already today.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 2:59 PM ET #471

    sweet URU goal!! - i've never watched world cup soccer, but i'm following your picks Van and I'm enjoying these games! I'm hooked 
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    sweet URU goal!! - i've never watched world cup soccer, but i'm following your picks Van and I'm enjoying these games! I'm hooked 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:31 PM ET #472

    Good to get that goal....

    Need to keep attacking though - its too early to sit back - although the longer it goes the more SA will have to gamble - and are prone to the counter.

    Just dont sit back though Uruguay - keep possession - keep attcking.....

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    Good to get that goal....

    Need to keep attacking though - its too early to sit back - although the longer it goes the more SA will have to gamble - and are prone to the counter.

    Just dont sit back though Uruguay - keep possession - keep attcking.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:12 PM ET #473

    Bravo !  Bravo !
    Clean sweep for the day
    well done vanzack
    very well done

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    Bravo !  Bravo !
    Clean sweep for the day
    well done vanzack
    very well done

     
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    IMO - Suarez was garbage today, and garbage in the first game....

    His best move is the sniper dive.

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    IMO - Suarez was garbage today, and garbage in the first game....

    His best move is the sniper dive.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:15 PM ET #475

    I have URU 2-0 @ +900...15mins to go...
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    I have URU 2-0 @ +900...15mins to go...
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