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    Heritage sports said they cancelled my over 2 1/2. Goals this is bull shi$$$ any suggestions

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    Snow9977
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 4:47 AM ET #1

    I had the over 2 1\2 on the Brisbane game and the cancelled my bet should I still get paid since they scored three goals and the team was awarded a win 2-1 I am calling the mgr Sunday did anyone have this happen to them .
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    I had the over 2 1\2 on the Brisbane game and the cancelled my bet should I still get paid since they scored three goals and the team was awarded a win 2-1 I am calling the mgr Sunday did anyone have this happen to them .
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 4:50 AM ET #2

    Will: Welcome to our Live Chat Department. My name is Will. How may I be of assistance?
    XX162026: I AM EXTREMELY UPSET
    XX162026: AND THINK I WANT TO CASHOUT

    Will: what are you upset about?
    XX162026: ONLINE 03/21/2015 04:19 AM [ # 206100730 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 325.00 - To Win: 250.00 ) NO BET 03/21/2015 @ 11:00 PM SOC [27017] TOTAL o2.5 -130 (WELLINGTON PHOENIX FC vrs BRISBANE ROAR FC) Score: WELLINGTON PHOENIX FC() - BRISBANE ROAR FC() N/A CANCEL $0.00
    XX162026: THAT!
    XX162026: ALL MY FRIENDS BOOKS CASHED OUT AS A WINNER
    XX162026: WILLIAM HILL
    XX162026: 5 DIMES
    XX162026: BOVADA
    XX162026: BUT NOT YOU GUYS!...
    XX162026: THE SCORE WAS 2-1 AT HALFTIME
    XX162026: THEY CALLED THE MATCH AT THE 72ND MINUTE ON ACCOUNT OF RAIN
    XX162026: THE SCORE IS OFFICIAL
    XX162026: THE GAME IS DONE
    XX162026: THERE WILL BE NO REPLAY OR RESUME

    LFG GENTS
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    Will: Welcome to our Live Chat Department. My name is Will. How may I be of assistance?
    XX162026: I AM EXTREMELY UPSET
    XX162026: AND THINK I WANT TO CASHOUT

    Will: what are you upset about?
    XX162026: ONLINE 03/21/2015 04:19 AM [ # 206100730 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 325.00 - To Win: 250.00 ) NO BET 03/21/2015 @ 11:00 PM SOC [27017] TOTAL o2.5 -130 (WELLINGTON PHOENIX FC vrs BRISBANE ROAR FC) Score: WELLINGTON PHOENIX FC() - BRISBANE ROAR FC() N/A CANCEL $0.00
    XX162026: THAT!
    XX162026: ALL MY FRIENDS BOOKS CASHED OUT AS A WINNER
    XX162026: WILLIAM HILL
    XX162026: 5 DIMES
    XX162026: BOVADA
    XX162026: BUT NOT YOU GUYS!...
    XX162026: THE SCORE WAS 2-1 AT HALFTIME
    XX162026: THEY CALLED THE MATCH AT THE 72ND MINUTE ON ACCOUNT OF RAIN
    XX162026: THE SCORE IS OFFICIAL
    XX162026: THE GAME IS DONE
    XX162026: THERE WILL BE NO REPLAY OR RESUME

     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 4:51 AM ET #3

    Will: correct, and risk amount was credited back to your balance
    XX162026: ITS NOT LIKE I WAS GONNA LOSE 1 OR 2 GOALS IN THE LAST 12 MINUTES OF THE MATCH
    XX162026: I WON THE BET!!!!!!
    XX162026: THE SCORE IS OFFICIALLY 2-1
    XX162026: THAT IS O2.5
    Will: you can discuss this with one of the wagering sups in the morning, after 9am EST
    XX162026: FINE.
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    Will: correct, and risk amount was credited back to your balance
    XX162026: ITS NOT LIKE I WAS GONNA LOSE 1 OR 2 GOALS IN THE LAST 12 MINUTES OF THE MATCH
    XX162026: I WON THE BET!!!!!!
    XX162026: THE SCORE IS OFFICIALLY 2-1
    XX162026: THAT IS O2.5
    Will: you can discuss this with one of the wagering sups in the morning, after 9am EST
    XX162026: FINE.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 4:51 AM ET #4

    Will: correct, and risk amount was credited back to your balance
    XX162026: ITS NOT LIKE I WAS GONNA LOSE 1 OR 2 GOALS IN THE LAST 12 MINUTES OF THE MATCH
    XX162026: I WON THE BET!!!!!!
    XX162026: THE SCORE IS OFFICIALLY 2-1
    XX162026: THAT IS O2.5
    Will: you can discuss this with one of the wagering sups in the morning, after 9am EST
    XX162026: FINE.
    LFG GENTS
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    Will: correct, and risk amount was credited back to your balance
    XX162026: ITS NOT LIKE I WAS GONNA LOSE 1 OR 2 GOALS IN THE LAST 12 MINUTES OF THE MATCH
    XX162026: I WON THE BET!!!!!!
    XX162026: THE SCORE IS OFFICIALLY 2-1
    XX162026: THAT IS O2.5
    Will: you can discuss this with one of the wagering sups in the morning, after 9am EST
    XX162026: FINE.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 4:52 AM ET #5

    and this one is still sitting in pending bets...

    ONLINE
    03/21/2015
    11:20 PM
    [Ticket #: 206264259] Brisbane Roar vs. Wellington Phx
    03/21/2015 @ 11:20 PMRBLGame Total 3.5
    Under 3.5 
    350.00289.26
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    and this one is still sitting in pending bets...

    ONLINE
    03/21/2015
    11:20 PM
    [Ticket #: 206264259] Brisbane Roar vs. Wellington Phx
    03/21/2015 @ 11:20 PMRBLGame Total 3.5
    Under 3.5 
    350.00289.26
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:06 AM ET #6

    Bro le
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoFlaGuy:

    and this one is still sitting in pending bets...ONLINE03/21/201511:20 PM[Ticket #: 206264259] Brisbane Roar vs. Wellington Phx03/21/2015 @ 11:20 PMRBLGame Total 3.5Under 3.5 350.00289.26

    Let me know what happens I am calling heritage sports in the am I have given them plenty of my money so the score was graded as a win for well phx
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoFlaGuy:

    and this one is still sitting in pending bets...ONLINE03/21/201511:20 PM[Ticket #: 206264259] Brisbane Roar vs. Wellington Phx03/21/2015 @ 11:20 PMRBLGame Total 3.5Under 3.5 350.00289.26

    Let me know what happens I am calling heritage sports in the am I have given them plenty of my money so the score was graded as a win for well phx
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:20 AM ET #7

    Wow...the refs decided to call that game as "official" awarding the win to phoenix as well..

    All wagers with over 2.5 AND Phoenix are officially winners..in fact 90% of online soccer score sites have the game as fulltime finished as 2-1
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    Wow...the refs decided to call that game as "official" awarding the win to phoenix as well..

    All wagers with over 2.5 AND Phoenix are officially winners..in fact 90% of online soccer score sites have the game as fulltime finished as 2-1
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:23 AM ET #8

    Heritage soccer rules state "any match that goes 85 minutes will have action" lol ..it went 73 or 75

    I'm guessing they had more $ on over

    This match wasnt suspended though..it was graded as official and complete with phoenix as the 2-1 winner
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    Heritage soccer rules state "any match that goes 85 minutes will have action" lol ..it went 73 or 75

    I'm guessing they had more $ on over

    This match wasnt suspended though..it was graded as official and complete with phoenix as the 2-1 winner
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:26 AM ET #9

    Maybe they wanna grade that under 3.5 as a loss since they had more time to get a goal 
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    Maybe they wanna grade that under 3.5 as a loss since they had more time to get a goal 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:28 AM ET #10

    Very very interested to see what heritage does about this.I use them frequently...ask then where they get their info cuz I've checked all soccer score sites and all but ONE say FT 2-1 and don't mention anything about the rain
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    Very very interested to see what heritage does about this.I use them frequently...ask then where they get their info cuz I've checked all soccer score sites and all but ONE say FT 2-1 and don't mention anything about the rain
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:45 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by LSU:

    Very very interested to see what heritage does about this.I use them frequently...ask then where they get their info cuz I've checked all soccer score sites and all but ONE say FT 2-1 and don't mention anything about the rain

    I read the rules but the game was ruled official as 2-1 score trust me I will raise hell with the mgr I have given them thousands of dollars I'll post my outcome after 11 mountain time
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSU:

    Very very interested to see what heritage does about this.I use them frequently...ask then where they get their info cuz I've checked all soccer score sites and all but ONE say FT 2-1 and don't mention anything about the rain

    I read the rules but the game was ruled official as 2-1 score trust me I will raise hell with the mgr I have given them thousands of dollars I'll post my outcome after 11 mountain time
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:46 AM ET #12

    read the rules b4 u place a bet.

    u should be lucky u got yur $ back n not a loss.

    the game didnt go 85 mins 

    just like in MLB totals

    gms gotta go 9 innings?  correct?

    now if u had bet Under 2.5 n get yur $.  u wouldnt hv been shouting n screamin would 
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    read the rules b4 u place a bet.

    u should be lucky u got yur $ back n not a loss.

    the game didnt go 85 mins 

    just like in MLB totals

    gms gotta go 9 innings?  correct?

    now if u had bet Under 2.5 n get yur $.  u wouldnt hv been shouting n screamin would 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 5:48 AM ET #13

    *correction*

    didnt mean to say loss.  
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    *correction*

    didnt mean to say loss.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 6:03 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Fademaster:

    read the rules b4 u place a bet.u should be lucky u got yur $ back n not a loss.the game didnt go 85 mins just like in MLB totalsgms gotta go 9 innings?  correct?now if u had bet Under 2.5 n get yur $.  u wouldnt hv been shouting n screamin would

    Bro the Aleague has win loss and each team was given a w or L they scored 3 goals in the first half I had over 2 1/2 I'll be bitching up a storm I won fair and square three goals scored last I checked 3 is > 2 1/2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fademaster:

    read the rules b4 u place a bet.u should be lucky u got yur $ back n not a loss.the game didnt go 85 mins just like in MLB totalsgms gotta go 9 innings?  correct?now if u had bet Under 2.5 n get yur $.  u wouldnt hv been shouting n screamin would

    Bro the Aleague has win loss and each team was given a w or L they scored 3 goals in the first half I had over 2 1/2 I'll be bitching up a storm I won fair and square three goals scored last I checked 3 is > 2 1/2
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 6:28 AM ET #15

    Snow im in Denver you too?
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    Snow im in Denver you too?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 6:43 AM ET #16

    One website has these rules regarding abandonment:

    Abandoned Games - Should a match be abandoned before 90 minutes of play then all bets will be declared void and bets refunded


    • If a match is suspended and an official result is declared immediately (same day) by the ruling body, we will grade the match as a result declared by the ruling body. This scenario is not considered an abandoned match.
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    One website has these rules regarding abandonment:

    Abandoned Games - Should a match be abandoned before 90 minutes of play then all bets will be declared void and bets refunded


    • If a match is suspended and an official result is declared immediately (same day) by the ruling body, we will grade the match as a result declared by the ruling body. This scenario is not considered an abandoned match.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 6:47 AM ET #17

    Can they be any more misleading?

    To me it sounds like this is a very rare situation..where the game was abandoned YET ruled official with the final score and winner deemed official..

    Thegreek.com (btw I thought they shut down) states that "THIS SCENARIO IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ABANDONED MATCH" 

    I THINK WE HAVE A RARE BUT GOOD CASE ON OR HANDS
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    Can they be any more misleading?

    To me it sounds like this is a very rare situation..where the game was abandoned YET ruled official with the final score and winner deemed official..

    Thegreek.com (btw I thought they shut down) states that "THIS SCENARIO IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ABANDONED MATCH" 

    I THINK WE HAVE A RARE BUT GOOD CASE ON OR HANDS
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 7:39 AM ET #18

    • If an Event starts but is later abandoned, and is not completed within the originally scheduled completion date prescribed in the specific sports rules, then all bets will be void, except for those on Markets that have been unconditionally determined.
    • If an Event is not completed within the originally scheduled completion time prescribed in the specific sports rules thus an official result is declared or a result is declared by the particular Event's relevant governing body, the Company reserves the right to consider the match officially valid. The Company's decision is final and binding in this regard.

    Yet another site that overrules the void IF the"governing body declares the match officially valid"
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    • If an Event starts but is later abandoned, and is not completed within the originally scheduled completion date prescribed in the specific sports rules, then all bets will be void, except for those on Markets that have been unconditionally determined.
    • If an Event is not completed within the originally scheduled completion time prescribed in the specific sports rules thus an official result is declared or a result is declared by the particular Event's relevant governing body, the Company reserves the right to consider the match officially valid. The Company's decision is final and binding in this regard.

    Yet another site that overrules the void IF the"governing body declares the match officially valid"
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 9:04 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Snow9977:

    I had the over 2 1\2 on the Brisbane game and the cancelled my bet should I still get paid since they scored three goals and the team was awarded a win 2-1 I am calling the mgr Sunday did anyone have this happen to them .
    You should, but you won't.

    No different than a baseball game that gets called after 8 innings - all totals get voided, even if the outcome's already been decided.

    Sucks, and makes no sense, but those are the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow9977:

    I had the over 2 1\2 on the Brisbane game and the cancelled my bet should I still get paid since they scored three goals and the team was awarded a win 2-1 I am calling the mgr Sunday did anyone have this happen to them .
    You should, but you won't.

    No different than a baseball game that gets called after 8 innings - all totals get voided, even if the outcome's already been decided.

    Sucks, and makes no sense, but those are the rules.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 12:45 PM ET #20

    betdsi gave me the same thing, must go 90 to be graded official, - as far as im concerned if i had over 2 or 2.5 or asian line 2 or 1,25 or whatever in LIVE betting as soon as that 3rd goal was scored my bet is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!period. at the 45th minute our bets (over 2,5) are done, over complete, .....but this back door fuckkkerz find a loop hole. cost me $100
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    betdsi gave me the same thing, must go 90 to be graded official, - as far as im concerned if i had over 2 or 2.5 or asian line 2 or 1,25 or whatever in LIVE betting as soon as that 3rd goal was scored my bet is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!period. at the 45th minute our bets (over 2,5) are done, over complete, .....but this back door fuckkkerz find a loop hole. cost me $100
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 12:46 PM ET #21

    at leasrt overtime and winning losing by .5 goes in my favor every once in a while, but the books? have never graded shhhiiit in my favor. golf injuries, tennis withdrawls , rainy foooocking soccer games is now on the list
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    at leasrt overtime and winning losing by .5 goes in my favor every once in a while, but the books? have never graded shhhiiit in my favor. golf injuries, tennis withdrawls , rainy foooocking soccer games is now on the list
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 12:48 PM ET #22

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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 3:16 PM ET #23

    I had a $150 PARLAY WELLINGTON PHOENIX +235 AND OVER 2.5 which paid $720 

    IT WAS GRADED AS A WINNER!!

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    I had a $150 PARLAY WELLINGTON PHOENIX +235 AND OVER 2.5 which paid $720 

    IT WAS GRADED AS A WINNER!!

     
    Fademaster
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2015 - 9:53 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Snow9977:


    Bro the Aleague has win loss and each team was given a w or L they scored 3 goals in the first half I had over 2 1/2 I'll be bitching up a storm I won fair and square three goals scored last I checked 3 is > 2 1/2

    how did the conversation with the mng go?  I played with Heritage....I know for a fact they wont grade it as a winner.  Ive been arguing with the b4... they always win

    I get yur point.  if the gm was graded final a W n L.  if you had the sides, the bet would hv count.  but this case it was the total.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow9977:


    Bro the Aleague has win loss and each team was given a w or L they scored 3 goals in the first half I had over 2 1/2 I'll be bitching up a storm I won fair and square three goals scored last I checked 3 is > 2 1/2

    how did the conversation with the mng go?  I played with Heritage....I know for a fact they wont grade it as a winner.  Ive been arguing with the b4... they always win

    I get yur point.  if the gm was graded final a W n L.  if you had the sides, the bet would hv count.  but this case it was the total.  
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2015 - 6:00 AM ET #25

    The official result doesn't matter a jot only the book rules. Totals always get voided as a rule in most sports. Anyone who got paid is a lucky exception. You only have a case if you can show a clear unambiguous flouting of their own published rules. I haven't seen that as yet
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    The official result doesn't matter a jot only the book rules. Totals always get voided as a rule in most sports. Anyone who got paid is a lucky exception. You only have a case if you can show a clear unambiguous flouting of their own published rules. I haven't seen that as yet
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