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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 11:57 PM ET #1

    Ok well i won on the titans but really ricky gets this spot on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PATl_2kRBUA
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Ok well i won on the titans but really ricky gets this spot on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PATl_2kRBUA
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 12:29 AM ET #2

    Agreed snake....The men in pink are corrupt , they only see what they want to see.
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    Agreed snake....The men in pink are corrupt , they only see what they want to see.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 12:35 AM ET #3

    Same ref's as last monday's tiger/storm, Home cooking at it's best

    Jason Robinson has always been retarded
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    Same ref's as last monday's tiger/storm, Home cooking at it's best

    Jason Robinson has always been retarded
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 12:38 AM ET #4

    Yea i am just glade that a coach has finally come out and had something to say.

    U know now that next week when they play the will win the penalty count so he does not come out and do the same thing again.

    Also i do remember freddy talking about the sheet they get couple days after the game when he was coach of the chooks. He said they would consistantly lose the penalty count and then the sheet would say oh wait should have been about 50/50. 

    What does it matter after the game. Get it right during the game. 

    In that little video did enjoy the call, dont have experiecenced players to milk the penalty.

    Straight dig at the Storm, they are cheats and the refs cheat for them, the entire world know it but no way people have the balls to say so
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    Yea i am just glade that a coach has finally come out and had something to say.

    U know now that next week when they play the will win the penalty count so he does not come out and do the same thing again.

    Also i do remember freddy talking about the sheet they get couple days after the game when he was coach of the chooks. He said they would consistantly lose the penalty count and then the sheet would say oh wait should have been about 50/50. 

    What does it matter after the game. Get it right during the game. 

    In that little video did enjoy the call, dont have experiecenced players to milk the penalty.

    Straight dig at the Storm, they are cheats and the refs cheat for them, the entire world know it but no way people have the balls to say so
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 5:47 AM ET #5

    I have no doubt refs are "star struck" with the storm...If something is 50/50 on Slater, Smith and Crock, they always give the benefit of the doubt, simply because of who they are....they cant make mistakes those players.
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    I have no doubt refs are "star struck" with the storm...If something is 50/50 on Slater, Smith and Crock, they always give the benefit of the doubt, simply because of who they are....they cant make mistakes those players.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 8:51 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    Same ref's as last monday's tiger/storm, Home cooking at it's best

    Jason Robinson has always been retarded


    I find this ref in particular encites too much aggression in all of his games.

    I play in a touch footy comp and one ref in particular, his name is Roger, every time he refs we almost everytime have a blue. Players are always binned, the game has no flow and everyone gets the shits, with him, with the oppostion and with each other.

    I remember in one grandfinal I made a touch and jarred my fingers doing it and the guy kept going anyway and scored.

    I called touch obviously.

    Ref "Did you touch him?"
    Me "Yep I got him."
    Ref "No you didnt. Its a try, next time I'll sin bin you."

    Collective WTF.

    I find Robinson has exactly the same impact on every game he referees. He has poor people skills and his bad attitude is easily noticebale just as an everyday viewer on the tv.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    Same ref's as last monday's tiger/storm, Home cooking at it's best

    Jason Robinson has always been retarded


    I find this ref in particular encites too much aggression in all of his games.

    I play in a touch footy comp and one ref in particular, his name is Roger, every time he refs we almost everytime have a blue. Players are always binned, the game has no flow and everyone gets the shits, with him, with the oppostion and with each other.

    I remember in one grandfinal I made a touch and jarred my fingers doing it and the guy kept going anyway and scored.

    I called touch obviously.

    Ref "Did you touch him?"
    Me "Yep I got him."
    Ref "No you didnt. Its a try, next time I'll sin bin you."

    Collective WTF.

    I find Robinson has exactly the same impact on every game he referees. He has poor people skills and his bad attitude is easily noticebale just as an everyday viewer on the tv.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 3:27 PM ET #7

    Reffing rugby is one of the most difficult chores around. The pace of the game, all the players flying around, and players always trying to infringe, makes it awfully difficult to stay ahead.

    I've reffed at the high school level and that was bloody difficult. I can only imagine at the professional level.

    Key is to be consistent in the 1st Half so players know what will be blown and what will be let off. Then, the 2nd Half is all about whistling the match in that manner and forcing sides to adjust to you.

    I used to not see teams when I reffed. Just players. This made me unable to keep track of which side I whistled most often and also made sure that I was impartial. If the penalty count was lopsided at the end, I was confident game film would show one side constantly deserving more whistles.
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    Reffing rugby is one of the most difficult chores around. The pace of the game, all the players flying around, and players always trying to infringe, makes it awfully difficult to stay ahead.

    I've reffed at the high school level and that was bloody difficult. I can only imagine at the professional level.

    Key is to be consistent in the 1st Half so players know what will be blown and what will be let off. Then, the 2nd Half is all about whistling the match in that manner and forcing sides to adjust to you.

    I used to not see teams when I reffed. Just players. This made me unable to keep track of which side I whistled most often and also made sure that I was impartial. If the penalty count was lopsided at the end, I was confident game film would show one side constantly deserving more whistles.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 3:28 PM ET #8

    Ten again, none of the teams I reffed were sponsored by Centrebet either.

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    Ten again, none of the teams I reffed were sponsored by Centrebet either.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 5:17 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Ten again, none of the teams I reffed were sponsored by Centrebet either.



    Great call. You know what i dont disagree that the game is fast and must be hard to keep up but really some of the dodgy stuff that goes on week to week in the NRL. 

    Come on man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    When me and my brother first started watching NRL never ever would have thought to say well that game was dodgy or anythink of the sort. But in the last 3 years the game has just gone down hill at a crazy rate.

    When was the last time we went a round with a dodgy game? just one round, but will never happen due to betting and the big part it plays in the game now.

    Dont get me wrong im not saying that there are fixes all over the place but would be nice to watch an entire weekend of footy and not think after the games are over, well that was fishy and dodgy. 

    Just a dream really, never going to happen. 

    Just a side theory, me and my brother have a theory that the reason the storm always get the rub of the green is due were they play. NRL knows that to keep viewers in VIC the storm have to be good and win otherwise lose there market share to AFL. Hence all the good calls. They also have some good players but they never lose a penalty count down there do they??? 

    Just  saying if betting agency had an option who would win the penalty count in a storm game and they are at home you could win a small fortune
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Ten again, none of the teams I reffed were sponsored by Centrebet either.



    Great call. You know what i dont disagree that the game is fast and must be hard to keep up but really some of the dodgy stuff that goes on week to week in the NRL. 

    Come on man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    When me and my brother first started watching NRL never ever would have thought to say well that game was dodgy or anythink of the sort. But in the last 3 years the game has just gone down hill at a crazy rate.

    When was the last time we went a round with a dodgy game? just one round, but will never happen due to betting and the big part it plays in the game now.

    Dont get me wrong im not saying that there are fixes all over the place but would be nice to watch an entire weekend of footy and not think after the games are over, well that was fishy and dodgy. 

    Just a dream really, never going to happen. 

    Just a side theory, me and my brother have a theory that the reason the storm always get the rub of the green is due were they play. NRL knows that to keep viewers in VIC the storm have to be good and win otherwise lose there market share to AFL. Hence all the good calls. They also have some good players but they never lose a penalty count down there do they??? 

    Just  saying if betting agency had an option who would win the penalty count in a storm game and they are at home you could win a small fortune
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2013 - 9:41 PM ET #10

    In a sport where the CEO of the league and the CEO's of various clubs are 'matey' with a range of sportsbooks, regularly attending luncheons and vice versa, we all know the risk. Wouldn't at all be surprised if the refs get a few kick-backs along the way also as they to are part of the 'organization'. 

    The 'spread fcukery' I've seen of late though is alarming. How many 2nd half penalties did the Sharkies get last week at Fortress Brookvale, a venue where the 'pink ponies' tend to swallow the whistle when it comes to the home team, wasn't it something like 6-0 or 6-1 Cronulla. Never heard a Brooky crowd so irate at the refs. Manly however, has a main sponsor 'Centrebet' and they happened to take just over 312k on Seagles spread bets.

    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...
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    In a sport where the CEO of the league and the CEO's of various clubs are 'matey' with a range of sportsbooks, regularly attending luncheons and vice versa, we all know the risk. Wouldn't at all be surprised if the refs get a few kick-backs along the way also as they to are part of the 'organization'. 

    The 'spread fcukery' I've seen of late though is alarming. How many 2nd half penalties did the Sharkies get last week at Fortress Brookvale, a venue where the 'pink ponies' tend to swallow the whistle when it comes to the home team, wasn't it something like 6-0 or 6-1 Cronulla. Never heard a Brooky crowd so irate at the refs. Manly however, has a main sponsor 'Centrebet' and they happened to take just over 312k on Seagles spread bets.

    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 2:48 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by emkee:

     
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    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...

    hmmmm i do not concur with your statement here emkee.. 
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    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...

    hmmmm i do not concur with your statement here emkee.. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 3:02 AM ET #12

    Anyone read the bit where Tom Waterhouse was in the Manly sheds after a game a few weeks ago?

    He was also a guest of Sean Penn at the Manly box last year?

    That reeks.

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    Anyone read the bit where Tom Waterhouse was in the Manly sheds after a game a few weeks ago?

    He was also a guest of Sean Penn at the Manly box last year?

    That reeks.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 8:59 AM ET #13

    Ricky Stuart is the biggest whinger in the NRL

    But he does have a point about how certain players get preferential treatment because of their status in the league
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    Ricky Stuart is the biggest whinger in the NRL

    But he does have a point about how certain players get preferential treatment because of their status in the league
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 5:32 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Anyone read the bit where Tom Waterhouse was in the Manly sheds after a game a few weeks ago?

    He was also a guest of Sean Penn at the Manly box last year?

    That reeks.


    Fuggin Waterhouse is in all nooks and crannies in a league game.  He shouldn't even be allowed on the pitch let alone the sheds. If/when he shows his metrosexual mug on tv during a match, just plow into the opposite of what he says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Anyone read the bit where Tom Waterhouse was in the Manly sheds after a game a few weeks ago?

    He was also a guest of Sean Penn at the Manly box last year?

    That reeks.


    Fuggin Waterhouse is in all nooks and crannies in a league game.  He shouldn't even be allowed on the pitch let alone the sheds. If/when he shows his metrosexual mug on tv during a match, just plow into the opposite of what he says.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 5:34 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by emkee:

    In a sport where the CEO of the league and the CEO's of various clubs are 'matey' with a range of sportsbooks, regularly attending luncheons and vice versa, we all know the risk. Wouldn't at all be surprised if the refs get a few kick-backs along the way also as they to are part of the 'organization'. 

    The 'spread fcukery' I've seen of late though is alarming. How many 2nd half penalties did the Sharkies get last week at Fortress Brookvale, a venue where the 'pink ponies' tend to swallow the whistle when it comes to the home team, wasn't it something like 6-0 or 6-1 Cronulla. Never heard a Brooky crowd so irate at the refs. Manly however, has a main sponsor 'Centrebet' and they happened to take just over 312k on Seagles spread bets.

    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...

    The only aspect of league which is more keen wagering-wise is the over/unders. The rest, union is easier, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emkee:

    In a sport where the CEO of the league and the CEO's of various clubs are 'matey' with a range of sportsbooks, regularly attending luncheons and vice versa, we all know the risk. Wouldn't at all be surprised if the refs get a few kick-backs along the way also as they to are part of the 'organization'. 

    The 'spread fcukery' I've seen of late though is alarming. How many 2nd half penalties did the Sharkies get last week at Fortress Brookvale, a venue where the 'pink ponies' tend to swallow the whistle when it comes to the home team, wasn't it something like 6-0 or 6-1 Cronulla. Never heard a Brooky crowd so irate at the refs. Manly however, has a main sponsor 'Centrebet' and they happened to take just over 312k on Seagles spread bets.

    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...

    The only aspect of league which is more keen wagering-wise is the over/unders. The rest, union is easier, IMHO.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 7:11 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Oil-Beef-Hooked:


    hmmmm i do not concur with your statement here emkee.. 


    don't upset the league heads, they prefer a game which requires only braun and no brain.
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    hmmmm i do not concur with your statement here emkee.. 


    don't upset the league heads, they prefer a game which requires only braun and no brain.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 11:16 PM ET #17

    He has good reason to

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/review-of-titans-v-eels-match-shows-parramatta-coach-ricky-stuart-justified-in-criticism-of-referees/story-e6frexq0-1226622045315

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    He has good reason to

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/review-of-titans-v-eels-match-shows-parramatta-coach-ricky-stuart-justified-in-criticism-of-referees/story-e6frexq0-1226622045315

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2013 - 11:46 PM ET #18

    So, anyone here willing to raise their hand and say honestly that the Storm WILL NOT make the Grand Final?   Anyone?

    Now that the Finals structure is simplified, I say they're a shoo-in.

    Who disagrees?
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    So, anyone here willing to raise their hand and say honestly that the Storm WILL NOT make the Grand Final?   Anyone?

    Now that the Finals structure is simplified, I say they're a shoo-in.

    Who disagrees?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2013 - 3:21 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz:



    don't upset the league heads, they prefer a game which requires only braun and no brain.

    we prefer a game where they score tries not just kick penalty goals
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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz:



    don't upset the league heads, they prefer a game which requires only braun and no brain.

    we prefer a game where they score tries not just kick penalty goals
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2013 - 4:17 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    we prefer a game where they score tries not just kick penalty goals

    .. yes, but who organised these "tries"? nrl is all money money money cash money 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    we prefer a game where they score tries not just kick penalty goals

    .. yes, but who organised these "tries"? nrl is all money money money cash money 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2013 - 7:58 AM ET #21

    I love both sports so argue away
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    I love both sports so argue away
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2013 - 6:42 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    I love both sports so argue away

    My Aussie friends are usually bewildered when I tell them I enjoy both as well. They simply can't believe that to be true! Hahaha!

    Tourney-wise, 6N is hands-down the greatest. Better than the World Cup or Tri-Nations.

    Comp-wise, Super Rugby beats Aviva or Rabo12 or anything the NH has to offer.

    League-wise, NRL blows Super League out of the water.

    Pick your poison, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    I love both sports so argue away

    My Aussie friends are usually bewildered when I tell them I enjoy both as well. They simply can't believe that to be true! Hahaha!

    Tourney-wise, 6N is hands-down the greatest. Better than the World Cup or Tri-Nations.

    Comp-wise, Super Rugby beats Aviva or Rabo12 or anything the NH has to offer.

    League-wise, NRL blows Super League out of the water.

    Pick your poison, I guess.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2013 - 3:48 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Anyone read the bit where Tom Waterhouse was in the Manly sheds after a game a few weeks ago?

    He was also a guest of Sean Penn at the Manly box last year?

    That reeks.



    Don't let your bullshit get in the way of the facts. He is allowed in the sheds as he has a commercial agreement with the NRL, just like representatives of Harvery Norman, telstra, accor hotels, coke, etc can do the same. However, he was not given access to the  Manly rooms as they are sponsored by Centrebet.

    Sean Penn has won 2 Academy Awards, and played Jeff Spicoli. Jeff friggin Spicoli. Spicoli had Van Halen play his birthday party, so he can invite into his box anyone he wants

    If you are invited to a box is there anything sinister in it?

    Seeing as though you are probably still unemployed since you got sacked from etrade, why dont you stop whinging about fixed games and try and get on the inside? The tab are hiring bookmakers. The only bets you lose are fixed games or "luck" so they would love your expertise. That way you can find out in advance what the fixed games are and you can make a killing. Your mate can put a good word in for you and get you an interview.

    https://www.seek.com.au/Job/bookmaker-trader/in/sydney-cbd-inner-west-eastern-suburbs/24242937

    There are 3 problems with this though. Firstly, you have to take accountability when you are wrong, and we know that will never happen. Secondly, you probably could not price up an event to save your life. And finally, bookmakers don't have an impact on games, despite what what goes on in that friggin delusional head of yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Anyone read the bit where Tom Waterhouse was in the Manly sheds after a game a few weeks ago?

    He was also a guest of Sean Penn at the Manly box last year?

    That reeks.



    Don't let your bullshit get in the way of the facts. He is allowed in the sheds as he has a commercial agreement with the NRL, just like representatives of Harvery Norman, telstra, accor hotels, coke, etc can do the same. However, he was not given access to the  Manly rooms as they are sponsored by Centrebet.

    Sean Penn has won 2 Academy Awards, and played Jeff Spicoli. Jeff friggin Spicoli. Spicoli had Van Halen play his birthday party, so he can invite into his box anyone he wants

    If you are invited to a box is there anything sinister in it?

    Seeing as though you are probably still unemployed since you got sacked from etrade, why dont you stop whinging about fixed games and try and get on the inside? The tab are hiring bookmakers. The only bets you lose are fixed games or "luck" so they would love your expertise. That way you can find out in advance what the fixed games are and you can make a killing. Your mate can put a good word in for you and get you an interview.

    https://www.seek.com.au/Job/bookmaker-trader/in/sydney-cbd-inner-west-eastern-suburbs/24242937

    There are 3 problems with this though. Firstly, you have to take accountability when you are wrong, and we know that will never happen. Secondly, you probably could not price up an event to save your life. And finally, bookmakers don't have an impact on games, despite what what goes on in that friggin delusional head of yours.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by emkee:

    In a sport where the CEO of the league and the CEO's of various clubs are 'matey' with a range of sportsbooks, regularly attending luncheons and vice versa, we all know the risk. Wouldn't at all be surprised if the refs get a few kick-backs along the way also as they to are part of the 'organization'. 

    The 'spread fcukery' I've seen of late though is alarming. How many 2nd half penalties did the Sharkies get last week at Fortress Brookvale, a venue where the 'pink ponies' tend to swallow the whistle when it comes to the home team, wasn't it something like 6-0 or 6-1 Cronulla. Never heard a Brooky crowd so irate at the refs. Manly however, has a main sponsor 'Centrebet' and they happened to take just over 312k on Seagles spread bets.

    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...


    Centrebet/Sportingbet wouldn't hold 300,000 on a round of NRL and super rugby combined, let alone 1 team in 1 round
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    Quote Originally Posted by emkee:

    In a sport where the CEO of the league and the CEO's of various clubs are 'matey' with a range of sportsbooks, regularly attending luncheons and vice versa, we all know the risk. Wouldn't at all be surprised if the refs get a few kick-backs along the way also as they to are part of the 'organization'. 

    The 'spread fcukery' I've seen of late though is alarming. How many 2nd half penalties did the Sharkies get last week at Fortress Brookvale, a venue where the 'pink ponies' tend to swallow the whistle when it comes to the home team, wasn't it something like 6-0 or 6-1 Cronulla. Never heard a Brooky crowd so irate at the refs. Manly however, has a main sponsor 'Centrebet' and they happened to take just over 312k on Seagles spread bets.

    Makes you wonder. Just have to be weary is all if you're gonna continue to gamble on the NRL, still better than union by a country mile...


    Centrebet/Sportingbet wouldn't hold 300,000 on a round of NRL and super rugby combined, let alone 1 team in 1 round
     
     
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    Agree Loz, someone in the 'media department' was a little too excited or fat fingered the keyboard. Would be more like 31k which they still couldn't afford to lose in all honesty.

    Regarding the rugby v league debate. Played rugby for the most part of my life still play here in San Diego for one of the 'corporate' clubs with a bunch of ex-pat kiwis, love playing it - hate watching it. It's boring live on the TV. NRL as 'dodgy' as it is, is much more pleasent on the eyes from a spectator standpoint...
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    Agree Loz, someone in the 'media department' was a little too excited or fat fingered the keyboard. Would be more like 31k which they still couldn't afford to lose in all honesty.

    Regarding the rugby v league debate. Played rugby for the most part of my life still play here in San Diego for one of the 'corporate' clubs with a bunch of ex-pat kiwis, love playing it - hate watching it. It's boring live on the TV. NRL as 'dodgy' as it is, is much more pleasent on the eyes from a spectator standpoint...
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