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    Tampa Bay at Kansas City (11/02/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2008 - 2:04 AM ET #1

    Away:  Tampa Bay [5-3 ATS]
    Home:  Kansas City [3-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Jeff Garcia (1025)
    Rushing: Earnest Graham (498)
    Receiving: Antonio Bryant (409)

    Kansas City:
    Passing: Tyler Thigpen (672)
    Rushing: Larry Johnson (417)
    Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (512)

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    Away:  Tampa Bay [5-3 ATS]
    Home:  Kansas City [3-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Jeff Garcia (1025)
    Rushing: Earnest Graham (498)
    Receiving: Antonio Bryant (409)

    Kansas City:
    Passing: Tyler Thigpen (672)
    Rushing: Larry Johnson (417)
    Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (512)

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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2008 - 1:36 PM ET #2

    Put my bet in on the Bucs -8.5 on Monday. Looks like this line is soaring. No LJ again for this game. Bucs tend to feast on these types of teams. The fact that that Chiefs are so bad against the run means the Bucs will be able to score plenty to get the cover here.
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    Put my bet in on the Bucs -8.5 on Monday. Looks like this line is soaring. No LJ again for this game. Bucs tend to feast on these types of teams. The fact that that Chiefs are so bad against the run means the Bucs will be able to score plenty to get the cover here.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2008 - 8:41 PM ET #3

    Gotta like Buc's  chances after loosing close one aganist Dallas. They want to prove they are still contenders......Chucky seemed satisfied with the Buc's performance on Sunday and will have them pumped .......Buc's roll
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    Gotta like Buc's  chances after loosing close one aganist Dallas. They want to prove they are still contenders......Chucky seemed satisfied with the Buc's performance on Sunday and will have them pumped .......Buc's roll
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 12:40 AM ET #4

    Like Tampa here

    Garcia will light up the young secondary

    Bucs defense shuts down Chiefs and no LJ 

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    Like Tampa here

    Garcia will light up the young secondary

    Bucs defense shuts down Chiefs and no LJ 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 4:56 PM ET #5

    Bucs to the house on this one...Chiefs with a pathetic run defense will not be able to stop em...Bucs roll
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    Bucs to the house on this one...Chiefs with a pathetic run defense will not be able to stop em...Bucs roll
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 9:40 AM ET #6

    UNDER!
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    UNDER!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 2:27 PM ET #7

    KC plus 9.5......... that's a gift.....
     
    TB is not good on the road.... now they are going to KC and it is hard to play there.....
     
    KC "young" secondary is ranked 7th in the league.... they have a horrible team, but they're only good quality is they're pass defense....
     
    I see a low scoring affair and I also see TB winning by a TD TOPS....
     
    TB went to Denver and Lost........... Denver went to KC and got blown out........
     
    Tampa Bay doesn't play well on the road..... I always bet them at home
     
    I'll take the 9.5 even though the Cheifs are a crappy team
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    KC plus 9.5......... that's a gift.....
     
    TB is not good on the road.... now they are going to KC and it is hard to play there.....
     
    KC "young" secondary is ranked 7th in the league.... they have a horrible team, but they're only good quality is they're pass defense....
     
    I see a low scoring affair and I also see TB winning by a TD TOPS....
     
    TB went to Denver and Lost........... Denver went to KC and got blown out........
     
    Tampa Bay doesn't play well on the road..... I always bet them at home
     
    I'll take the 9.5 even though the Cheifs are a crappy team
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 2:38 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    KC plus 9.5......... that's a gift.....
     
    TB is not good on the road.... now they are going to KC and it is hard to play there.....
     
    KC "young" secondary is ranked 7th in the league.... they have a horrible team, but they're only good quality is they're pass defense....
     
    I see a low scoring affair and I also see TB winning by a TD TOPS....
     
    TB went to Denver and Lost........... Denver went to KC and got blown out........
     
    Tampa Bay doesn't play well on the road..... I always bet them at home
     
    I'll take the 9.5 even though the Cheifs are a crappy team

    made a mistake..... TB's secondar is ranked 7th in the leauge... sorry about that....... but KC's secondary did pretty well last week on the road against the JETS.....

    Still like the HOME DOG

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    KC plus 9.5......... that's a gift.....
     
    TB is not good on the road.... now they are going to KC and it is hard to play there.....
     
    KC "young" secondary is ranked 7th in the league.... they have a horrible team, but they're only good quality is they're pass defense....
     
    I see a low scoring affair and I also see TB winning by a TD TOPS....
     
    TB went to Denver and Lost........... Denver went to KC and got blown out........
     
    Tampa Bay doesn't play well on the road..... I always bet them at home
     
    I'll take the 9.5 even though the Cheifs are a crappy team

    made a mistake..... TB's secondar is ranked 7th in the leauge... sorry about that....... but KC's secondary did pretty well last week on the road against the JETS.....

    Still like the HOME DOG

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 3:23 PM ET #9

    Simple Math Equation People.....

    [KC won't be able to run anything w/o L.J.]
    +
    [Tyler "Don't Call Me Yancy" Thigpen has to now throw]
    +
    [T.B. will be bloodthirsty after last week's heartbreaker vs. Dallas]
    =
    Ruud & Barber will probably get a pick a piece, and Thigpen gets sacked at least twice - Bucs, BIG
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    Simple Math Equation People.....

    [KC won't be able to run anything w/o L.J.]
    +
    [Tyler "Don't Call Me Yancy" Thigpen has to now throw]
    +
    [T.B. will be bloodthirsty after last week's heartbreaker vs. Dallas]
    =
    Ruud & Barber will probably get a pick a piece, and Thigpen gets sacked at least twice - Bucs, BIG
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 4:00 PM ET #10

    At 9.5, I'll buy it to 10.
    KC
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    At 9.5, I'll buy it to 10.
    KC
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 5:33 PM ET #11

    I am making the bucs a pick em with 10 point tease is that a lock??
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    I am making the bucs a pick em with 10 point tease is that a lock??
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 5:40 PM ET #12

    Will this tease win...Philly plus 3.5,,,Bucs Pick em,,,Giants pick em
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    Will this tease win...Philly plus 3.5,,,Bucs Pick em,,,Giants pick em
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 6:04 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by L0cks_all_d4y:

    Will this tease win...Philly plus 3.5,,,Bucs Pick em,,,Giants pick em

    I like Philly plus 3.5 and Giants Pick'em.... and Buccs probably should win, but I would tease down DA BEARS spread... gonna be cold in chicago lol....

    OH and Love the 10 points mannix.... good idea

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by L0cks_all_d4y:

    Will this tease win...Philly plus 3.5,,,Bucs Pick em,,,Giants pick em

    I like Philly plus 3.5 and Giants Pick'em.... and Buccs probably should win, but I would tease down DA BEARS spread... gonna be cold in chicago lol....

    OH and Love the 10 points mannix.... good idea

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 8:38 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

     
    TB went to Denver and Lost........... Denver went to KC and got blown out........
     

    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Shanahan never wins at Arrowhead. Chiefs will get torched in Mile High. It always happens that way.

    I would have to lean towards my Chiefs here, especially if it's 10, but won't bet it. Arrowhead used to be a tough place to play, but not any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

     
    TB went to Denver and Lost........... Denver went to KC and got blown out........
     

    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Shanahan never wins at Arrowhead. Chiefs will get torched in Mile High. It always happens that way.

    I would have to lean towards my Chiefs here, especially if it's 10, but won't bet it. Arrowhead used to be a tough place to play, but not any more.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 9:51 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by blstuart:

    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Shanahan never wins at Arrowhead. Chiefs will get torched in Mile High. It always happens that way.

    I would have to lean towards my Chiefs here, especially if it's 10, but won't bet it. Arrowhead used to be a tough place to play, but not any more.

    yeah common opponents have nothing to do with Capping a game.... ?!?!?!??!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blstuart:

    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Shanahan never wins at Arrowhead. Chiefs will get torched in Mile High. It always happens that way.

    I would have to lean towards my Chiefs here, especially if it's 10, but won't bet it. Arrowhead used to be a tough place to play, but not any more.

    yeah common opponents have nothing to do with Capping a game.... ?!?!?!??!?!?!?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 2:19 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    yeah common opponents have nothing to do with Capping a game.... ?!?!?!??!?!?!?

    Should not be a major factor. Teams have individual schemes and personnel which makes each match-up different. Denver crushed Oakland, Oakland beat KC, KC beat Denver. Is it relevent. Not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    yeah common opponents have nothing to do with Capping a game.... ?!?!?!??!?!?!?

    Should not be a major factor. Teams have individual schemes and personnel which makes each match-up different. Denver crushed Oakland, Oakland beat KC, KC beat Denver. Is it relevent. Not really.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 3:19 PM ET #17

    its not like a formula..... KC beats Denver + Denver beats TB = KC beats TB....
     
    BUT IT IS RELEVANT..... THEY ARE COMMON OPPONENTS.... TB DIDN'T PLAY OAKLAND THOUGH SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE IT....
     
    it is something to consider.... when you looked at the INDY TENNESSEE matchup... TENESSEE had more wins against similiar opponents.... its a factor.... no need to paraphrase me and for me to defend it.....
     
     
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    its not like a formula..... KC beats Denver + Denver beats TB = KC beats TB....
     
    BUT IT IS RELEVANT..... THEY ARE COMMON OPPONENTS.... TB DIDN'T PLAY OAKLAND THOUGH SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE IT....
     
    it is something to consider.... when you looked at the INDY TENNESSEE matchup... TENESSEE had more wins against similiar opponents.... its a factor.... no need to paraphrase me and for me to defend it.....
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 8:37 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    its not like a formula..... KC beats Denver + Denver beats TB = KC beats TB....
     
    BUT IT IS RELEVANT..... THEY ARE COMMON OPPONENTS.... TB DIDN'T PLAY OAKLAND THOUGH SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE IT....
     
    it is something to consider.... when you looked at the INDY TENNESSEE matchup... TENESSEE had more wins against similiar opponents.... its a factor.... no need to paraphrase me and for me to defend it.....
     
     
    No need to be a dick, I'll paraphrase you all I want, and it still remains irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    its not like a formula..... KC beats Denver + Denver beats TB = KC beats TB....
     
    BUT IT IS RELEVANT..... THEY ARE COMMON OPPONENTS.... TB DIDN'T PLAY OAKLAND THOUGH SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE IT....
     
    it is something to consider.... when you looked at the INDY TENNESSEE matchup... TENESSEE had more wins against similiar opponents.... its a factor.... no need to paraphrase me and for me to defend it.....
     
     
    No need to be a dick, I'll paraphrase you all I want, and it still remains irrelevant.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 8:41 PM ET #19

    Tampa Bay - 23                Kansas City - 17
    Chiefs +8.5                 over 36.5
    I really believe the Chiefs will begin winning some games but winning outright against this Tampa Bay club will be a tough task.
    You never know. 
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    Tampa Bay - 23                Kansas City - 17
    Chiefs +8.5                 over 36.5
    I really believe the Chiefs will begin winning some games but winning outright against this Tampa Bay club will be a tough task.
    You never know. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 8:44 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by effedbythehook:

    No need to be a dick, I'll paraphrase you all I want, and it still remains irrelevant.

    how about a little more logic to support your pick.... and less paraphrasing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by effedbythehook:

    No need to be a dick, I'll paraphrase you all I want, and it still remains irrelevant.

    how about a little more logic to support your pick.... and less paraphrasing....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 9:47 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    how about a little more logic to support your pick.... and less paraphrasing....

    I never gave a pick. Simply stating that every game is unique and that trends and angles and blah blah blah are useless. Injuries, offense, defense, special teams, and coaching are relevant. Childress will cost you a lot of spread covers while a guy like Gruden will not. Name one aspect of this game that KC has an edge in? They don't have one but TB injuries are starting to take a toll. That being said, the TB defense should hold KC to 10 or less. All you have to ask yourself if you are betting this game is will TB get to 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    how about a little more logic to support your pick.... and less paraphrasing....

    I never gave a pick. Simply stating that every game is unique and that trends and angles and blah blah blah are useless. Injuries, offense, defense, special teams, and coaching are relevant. Childress will cost you a lot of spread covers while a guy like Gruden will not. Name one aspect of this game that KC has an edge in? They don't have one but TB injuries are starting to take a toll. That being said, the TB defense should hold KC to 10 or less. All you have to ask yourself if you are betting this game is will TB get to 20.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2008 - 1:05 AM ET #22

    This guy told me that weeks 5 and 9 were the week to pick the DOGS

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    This guy told me that weeks 5 and 9 were the week to pick the DOGS

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2008 - 3:36 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by effedbythehook:

    I never gave a pick. Simply stating that every game is unique and that trends and angles and blah blah blah are useless. Injuries, offense, defense, special teams, and coaching are relevant. Childress will cost you a lot of spread covers while a guy like Gruden will not. Name one aspect of this game that KC has an edge in? They don't have one but TB injuries are starting to take a toll. That being said, the TB defense should hold KC to 10 or less. All you have to ask yourself if you are betting this game is will TB get to 20.

    they put up 24 on the road, and yes it was the Jets but it now they are home and I believe they can stay close.... I'll take the home, maybe buy it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by effedbythehook:

    I never gave a pick. Simply stating that every game is unique and that trends and angles and blah blah blah are useless. Injuries, offense, defense, special teams, and coaching are relevant. Childress will cost you a lot of spread covers while a guy like Gruden will not. Name one aspect of this game that KC has an edge in? They don't have one but TB injuries are starting to take a toll. That being said, the TB defense should hold KC to 10 or less. All you have to ask yourself if you are betting this game is will TB get to 20.

    they put up 24 on the road, and yes it was the Jets but it now they are home and I believe they can stay close.... I'll take the home, maybe buy it up

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2008 - 11:39 PM ET #24

    KC in big trouble.  TB plays very well after a loss and KC is going to get F'ed up bad.  I think TB makes this into at least a two score game to make sure they get win and that means 10+ points.  KC beating Den is a rivalry game that was won on sheer will. If you think they can do it again, good luck (but you never know, this is the NFL).

    TB -9
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    KC in big trouble.  TB plays very well after a loss and KC is going to get F'ed up bad.  I think TB makes this into at least a two score game to make sure they get win and that means 10+ points.  KC beating Den is a rivalry game that was won on sheer will. If you think they can do it again, good luck (but you never know, this is the NFL).

    TB -9
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2008 - 11:48 PM ET #25

    tampa bay   win s   this  one in a  teaSE
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