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    Tampa Bay at Denver (12/02/2012)

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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2012 - 1:53 AM ET #1

    Away:  Tampa Bay [8-2-1 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [6-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (2761)
    Rushing: Doug Martin (1050)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (959)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (3260)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (731)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (1015)

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    Away:  Tampa Bay [8-2-1 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [6-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (2761)
    Rushing: Doug Martin (1050)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (959)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (3260)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (731)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (1015)

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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 6:33 PM ET #2

    tampa has to have this game to  keep their wild card hopes alive. i think they keep it close throughout with denver winning by 3-4. tampa +8
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    tampa has to have this game to  keep their wild card hopes alive. i think they keep it close throughout with denver winning by 3-4. tampa +8
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 6:33 PM ET #3

    I don't see any way that Denver wins this game, let alone covers 9 points. They pretty much have their division wrapped up, so what motivation do they have for a non-conference game? 

    Tampa is playing for their playoff lives, so they are highly motivated. Josh Freeman's numbers are comparably to Manning's as far as YPA are concerned as well as TD/INT ratio. Tampa's red zone offense is clicking at 80% their last 3 games, compared to Denver's 36% their last 3 games. I am taking TB on the ML 
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    I don't see any way that Denver wins this game, let alone covers 9 points. They pretty much have their division wrapped up, so what motivation do they have for a non-conference game? 

    Tampa is playing for their playoff lives, so they are highly motivated. Josh Freeman's numbers are comparably to Manning's as far as YPA are concerned as well as TD/INT ratio. Tampa's red zone offense is clicking at 80% their last 3 games, compared to Denver's 36% their last 3 games. I am taking TB on the ML 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 7:18 PM ET #4

    Gold Sheet's Take on Tampa as Underdog!
     
    Tampa Bay 27 at Denver 29  "Don't mind "taking" with the
    scrappy Buccaneers 5-1-1 as underdog under fiery coach Schiano this season.  T.B. is last in pass defense (Bucs need more pass rushers), but speedy RB Doug Martin (1050 YR
    gives the team a rushing attack that many teams would love to have.  And, if you look closely, you'll notice that
    practically perfect Peyton has thrown more interceptions (8) than the improved Jose Freeman (7).  If the December weather is OK in Denver, no surprise if this one is a shoot-out (Bucs 5-1-1 "over" the last seven games; Denver "over" 7-4 TY)."
     
    Was shocked to see one of my favorite sports betting teams (Tampa Bay) as 8 point underdogs!  Tamba Bay no less than 5-0 vs. point spread on the road! And Tampa Bay now on a 6-1-1 winning point spread run last 8 games!
     
    Denver holds slight edge on defense, but both teams dead-even on offense.  Made good profits running with T.B. and won't stop now!  Will trust Tampa Bay QB Freeman and RB Doug Martin to keep this one under 8 point spread!
     
    Tampa Bay plus 8 points vs. Denver!
     
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    Gold Sheet's Take on Tampa as Underdog!
     
    Tampa Bay 27 at Denver 29  "Don't mind "taking" with the
    scrappy Buccaneers 5-1-1 as underdog under fiery coach Schiano this season.  T.B. is last in pass defense (Bucs need more pass rushers), but speedy RB Doug Martin (1050 YR
    gives the team a rushing attack that many teams would love to have.  And, if you look closely, you'll notice that
    practically perfect Peyton has thrown more interceptions (8) than the improved Jose Freeman (7).  If the December weather is OK in Denver, no surprise if this one is a shoot-out (Bucs 5-1-1 "over" the last seven games; Denver "over" 7-4 TY)."
     
    Was shocked to see one of my favorite sports betting teams (Tampa Bay) as 8 point underdogs!  Tamba Bay no less than 5-0 vs. point spread on the road! And Tampa Bay now on a 6-1-1 winning point spread run last 8 games!
     
    Denver holds slight edge on defense, but both teams dead-even on offense.  Made good profits running with T.B. and won't stop now!  Will trust Tampa Bay QB Freeman and RB Doug Martin to keep this one under 8 point spread!
     
    Tampa Bay plus 8 points vs. Denver!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 2:30 PM ET #5

    Oh man...8 points seems like a lot considering how well Tampa has been playing. Although, their secondary might be in for a long day against the Sheriff who might smell blood in the water. Also, I'm a little weary about backing a team from Florida in Mile High. 

    I am going to keep an eye on this one and follow the line movement. At first glance the number seems too high, but Vegas might be setting a trap here to get action on the Bucs. Not sure what to do with this one.

     

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    Oh man...8 points seems like a lot considering how well Tampa has been playing. Although, their secondary might be in for a long day against the Sheriff who might smell blood in the water. Also, I'm a little weary about backing a team from Florida in Mile High. 

    I am going to keep an eye on this one and follow the line movement. At first glance the number seems too high, but Vegas might be setting a trap here to get action on the Bucs. Not sure what to do with this one.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 3:12 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwins:

    I don't see any way that Denver wins this game, let alone covers 9 points. They pretty much have their division wrapped up, so what motivation do they have for a non-conference game? 

    Tampa is playing for their playoff lives, so they are highly motivated. Josh Freeman's numbers are comparably to Manning's as far as YPA are concerned as well as TD/INT ratio. Tampa's red zone offense is clicking at 80% their last 3 games, compared to Denver's 36% their last 3 games. I am taking TB on the ML 

    This game means a lot to both teams. Denver can't afford another loss if they want a first round bye. Last week was the first time in 6 games that the Broncos were held under 30pts & that was on the road vs a division rival. I don't see the Buccs being able to stop Peyton Manning & Denver is the only team in the NFL with a top 5 offense & defense. Tampa should keep it close enough to cover but the Broncos should continue the longest winning streak in the NFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddwins:

    I don't see any way that Denver wins this game, let alone covers 9 points. They pretty much have their division wrapped up, so what motivation do they have for a non-conference game? 

    Tampa is playing for their playoff lives, so they are highly motivated. Josh Freeman's numbers are comparably to Manning's as far as YPA are concerned as well as TD/INT ratio. Tampa's red zone offense is clicking at 80% their last 3 games, compared to Denver's 36% their last 3 games. I am taking TB on the ML 

    This game means a lot to both teams. Denver can't afford another loss if they want a first round bye. Last week was the first time in 6 games that the Broncos were held under 30pts & that was on the road vs a division rival. I don't see the Buccs being able to stop Peyton Manning & Denver is the only team in the NFL with a top 5 offense & defense. Tampa should keep it close enough to cover but the Broncos should continue the longest winning streak in the NFL

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2012 - 10:26 AM ET #7

    I really feel like apparent differential motivation is not a good reason to bet against good teams trying to prove something and get #1 seed (e.g., Falcons and Denver). 


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    I really feel like apparent differential motivation is not a good reason to bet against good teams trying to prove something and get #1 seed (e.g., Falcons and Denver). 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2012 - 3:08 PM ET #8

    please save the crap about Tampa needing this game and fighting for their playoff hopes.  maybe if this game was in Tampa, they'd have a fighting chance vs. these Broncos but it's not and this is a very bad spot for a young team with a new coach to be in - Mile High Stadium against Hall of Famer Peyton Manning with 2 new cornerbacks > EJ Biggers and Leonard Johnson.  Anyone heard of those guys???  That's what i thought.  Peyton will have no trouble at all slinging the rock against this mediocre defense and they shouldnt have a hard time running the ball either.  On the other side, i see Josh Freeman running for his life and Broncos forcing turnovers.  Let's look at the big picture folks - this Broncos team has a chance to go to the Super Bowl.  every game is big for them.  and in response to toddwins post - nothing is wrapped up, bro.  broncos aren't going to let off the gas until the division is won.

    Bet Broncos minus wutevs. Bad spot for young Bucs team from Florida.

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    please save the crap about Tampa needing this game and fighting for their playoff hopes.  maybe if this game was in Tampa, they'd have a fighting chance vs. these Broncos but it's not and this is a very bad spot for a young team with a new coach to be in - Mile High Stadium against Hall of Famer Peyton Manning with 2 new cornerbacks > EJ Biggers and Leonard Johnson.  Anyone heard of those guys???  That's what i thought.  Peyton will have no trouble at all slinging the rock against this mediocre defense and they shouldnt have a hard time running the ball either.  On the other side, i see Josh Freeman running for his life and Broncos forcing turnovers.  Let's look at the big picture folks - this Broncos team has a chance to go to the Super Bowl.  every game is big for them.  and in response to toddwins post - nothing is wrapped up, bro.  broncos aren't going to let off the gas until the division is won.

    Bet Broncos minus wutevs. Bad spot for young Bucs team from Florida.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2012 - 8:13 PM ET #9

    I agree with Sammy and MLP 100%...although i usually beg the differ with MLP. Sorry about my comments at times, I have an anger issue. But yes, i also think vegas wanted action on the Bucs. I could be dead wrong, but i think Denver wins by 14+ points. Peyton will air it out all day against a hanious bucs secondary. Bucs have the best record ATS in the nfl, and i believe they're do for a lose ATS. Plus, Denver lost there last two ATS. You know where im gettin at. Sammy makes a good point about a Florida team playing at mile high as well. Not saying thats all the differnce, but sure it helps. Den -8
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    I agree with Sammy and MLP 100%...although i usually beg the differ with MLP. Sorry about my comments at times, I have an anger issue. But yes, i also think vegas wanted action on the Bucs. I could be dead wrong, but i think Denver wins by 14+ points. Peyton will air it out all day against a hanious bucs secondary. Bucs have the best record ATS in the nfl, and i believe they're do for a lose ATS. Plus, Denver lost there last two ATS. You know where im gettin at. Sammy makes a good point about a Florida team playing at mile high as well. Not saying thats all the differnce, but sure it helps. Den -8
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2012 - 11:22 PM ET #10

    I agree with pretty much everybody. 8 points is just too many for this Bucs team not to take them............
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    I agree with pretty much everybody. 8 points is just too many for this Bucs team not to take them............
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2012 - 2:31 AM ET #11

    Buccaneers +7.5
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    Buccaneers +7.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2012 - 4:23 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    please save the crap about Tampa needing this game and fighting for their playoff hopes.  maybe if this game was in Tampa, they'd have a fighting chance vs. these Broncos but it's not and this is a very bad spot for a young team with a new coach to be in - Mile High Stadium against Hall of Famer Peyton Manning with 2 new cornerbacks > EJ Biggers and Leonard Johnson.  Anyone heard of those guys???  That's what i thought.  Peyton will have no trouble at all slinging the rock against this mediocre defense and they shouldnt have a hard time running the ball either.  On the other side, i see Josh Freeman running for his life and Broncos forcing turnovers.  Let's look at the big picture folks - this Broncos team has a chance to go to the Super Bowl.  every game is big for them.  and in response to toddwins post - nothing is wrapped up, bro.  broncos aren't going to let off the gas until the division is won.

    Bet Broncos minus wutevs. Bad spot for young Bucs team from Florida.

    i agree with this joe daddy and mytimetoshine.  everyone on the bucs getting 7.5 and i know the bucs have played close all year i think denver gets back on track this week and wins by at least 2 touchdowns.. they have to be pissed off after that poor showing last week to the dumb chiefs..This game seams to easy to just go ahead and take the bucs so i am going denver to win 33-17

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    please save the crap about Tampa needing this game and fighting for their playoff hopes.  maybe if this game was in Tampa, they'd have a fighting chance vs. these Broncos but it's not and this is a very bad spot for a young team with a new coach to be in - Mile High Stadium against Hall of Famer Peyton Manning with 2 new cornerbacks > EJ Biggers and Leonard Johnson.  Anyone heard of those guys???  That's what i thought.  Peyton will have no trouble at all slinging the rock against this mediocre defense and they shouldnt have a hard time running the ball either.  On the other side, i see Josh Freeman running for his life and Broncos forcing turnovers.  Let's look at the big picture folks - this Broncos team has a chance to go to the Super Bowl.  every game is big for them.  and in response to toddwins post - nothing is wrapped up, bro.  broncos aren't going to let off the gas until the division is won.

    Bet Broncos minus wutevs. Bad spot for young Bucs team from Florida.

    i agree with this joe daddy and mytimetoshine.  everyone on the bucs getting 7.5 and i know the bucs have played close all year i think denver gets back on track this week and wins by at least 2 touchdowns.. they have to be pissed off after that poor showing last week to the dumb chiefs..This game seams to easy to just go ahead and take the bucs so i am going denver to win 33-17

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2012 - 8:13 PM ET #13

    It smells like the Indy-Detroit game.They're begging you to take the points.
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    It smells like the Indy-Detroit game.They're begging you to take the points.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 12:07 AM ET #14

    They buccs suck, they are due to get blown out and I guess the books know Denver is far superior. -9.5 is a gift
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    They buccs suck, they are due to get blown out and I guess the books know Denver is far superior. -9.5 is a gift
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 12:11 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwins:

    I don't see any way that Denver wins this game, let alone covers 9 points. They pretty much have their division wrapped up, so what motivation do they have for a non-conference game? 

    Tampa is playing for their playoff lives, so they are highly motivated. Josh Freeman's numbers are comparably to Manning's as far as YPA are concerned as well as TD/INT ratio. Tampa's red zone offense is clicking at 80% their last 3 games, compared to Denver's 36% their last 3 games. I am taking TB on the ML 

    Pretty lame comment. Denver still have a lot to play for, especially for top seed in AFC coming into playoff. Having home field in thin air during the playoff is a major advantage for Denver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddwins:

    I don't see any way that Denver wins this game, let alone covers 9 points. They pretty much have their division wrapped up, so what motivation do they have for a non-conference game? 

    Tampa is playing for their playoff lives, so they are highly motivated. Josh Freeman's numbers are comparably to Manning's as far as YPA are concerned as well as TD/INT ratio. Tampa's red zone offense is clicking at 80% their last 3 games, compared to Denver's 36% their last 3 games. I am taking TB on the ML 

    Pretty lame comment. Denver still have a lot to play for, especially for top seed in AFC coming into playoff. Having home field in thin air during the playoff is a major advantage for Denver.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 12:24 AM ET #16

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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 12:28 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    I agree with pretty much everybody. 8 points is just too many for this Bucs team not to take them............

    Totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!     Bucs stay close enough to easily get the cover! Lets see- Broncos- hmmmm- Oh yeah- wasn't this the same team that FAILED TO COVER AGAINST THE CHIEFS laying 10.5, and weren't these Bucs the same team that gave the now 11-1 Falcons a hard time? See- that wasn't too hard was it! So you're still convinced they're not going to cover 9.5 points? Hey JoeDaddy - don't lose your bread to some stranger, just send it to me, and I'll be nice and save you the vig.

    TAMPA BAY  + 9.5  !

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    I agree with pretty much everybody. 8 points is just too many for this Bucs team not to take them............

    Totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!     Bucs stay close enough to easily get the cover! Lets see- Broncos- hmmmm- Oh yeah- wasn't this the same team that FAILED TO COVER AGAINST THE CHIEFS laying 10.5, and weren't these Bucs the same team that gave the now 11-1 Falcons a hard time? See- that wasn't too hard was it! So you're still convinced they're not going to cover 9.5 points? Hey JoeDaddy - don't lose your bread to some stranger, just send it to me, and I'll be nice and save you the vig.

    TAMPA BAY  + 9.5  !

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 12:50 AM ET #18

        Hey -you want some trends-  Denver's home favorite ATS record for years is well below 30%, and Denver  is the only team NOT to have a winning record against NFC teams ATS.  Oh about 25 %.  Some people have to see defeat, before they're convinced. See the clock going down- See Denver leading by only 5-7 points- See Peyton hand the ball off chewing down the clock- See Peyton doing a kneel down about 15 -20 yds out-  See you cursing your

    TAMPA BAY + 9.5

    fate- See your bookie laughing- & See me running out to collect from my man.  RUN VUE RUN!         

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        Hey -you want some trends-  Denver's home favorite ATS record for years is well below 30%, and Denver  is the only team NOT to have a winning record against NFC teams ATS.  Oh about 25 %.  Some people have to see defeat, before they're convinced. See the clock going down- See Denver leading by only 5-7 points- See Peyton hand the ball off chewing down the clock- See Peyton doing a kneel down about 15 -20 yds out-  See you cursing your

    TAMPA BAY + 9.5

    fate- See your bookie laughing- & See me running out to collect from my man.  RUN VUE RUN!         

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 4:26 AM ET #19

    Vue normally I would fade you but I'm also liking the Bucs to cover!
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    Vue normally I would fade you but I'm also liking the Bucs to cover!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 5:18 AM ET #20

    Tough call here. You gotta like the fight this year in Tampa w/Schiano and there gr8 ATS vs the number this year overall and on the road. I agree with Sammy Ace Las Vegas wants us on TB but I think Mile High will prove to be too tough for them besides Freeman is due for a bad game. Denv has Manning enough said. Denver -8, -9 or -10.

    BOL!!!

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    Tough call here. You gotta like the fight this year in Tampa w/Schiano and there gr8 ATS vs the number this year overall and on the road. I agree with Sammy Ace Las Vegas wants us on TB but I think Mile High will prove to be too tough for them besides Freeman is due for a bad game. Denv has Manning enough said. Denver -8, -9 or -10.

    BOL!!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 5:39 AM ET #21

    The A-T-S records dont mean a thing. The spread is used to make the betting public think a team is better then another but this spread opened at den.  -7 now its up to -9.5 denvers gotta kill them right? Nope bucks are on fire all there losses were close Tampa +points
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    The A-T-S records dont mean a thing. The spread is used to make the betting public think a team is better then another but this spread opened at den.  -7 now its up to -9.5 denvers gotta kill them right? Nope bucks are on fire all there losses were close Tampa +points
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 5:42 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by MyTimeToShine:

    I agree with Sammy and MLP 100%...although i usually beg the differ with MLP. Sorry about my comments at times, I have an anger issue. But yes, i also think vegas wanted action on the Bucs. I could be dead wrong, but i think Denver wins by 14+ points. Peyton will air it out all day against a hanious bucs secondary. Bucs have the best record ATS in the nfl, and i believe they're do for a lose ATS. Plus, Denver lost there last two ATS. You know where im gettin at. Sammy makes a good point about a Florida team playing at mile high as well. Not saying thats all the differnce, but sure it helps. Den -8
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyTimeToShine:

    I agree with Sammy and MLP 100%...although i usually beg the differ with MLP. Sorry about my comments at times, I have an anger issue. But yes, i also think vegas wanted action on the Bucs. I could be dead wrong, but i think Denver wins by 14+ points. Peyton will air it out all day against a hanious bucs secondary. Bucs have the best record ATS in the nfl, and i believe they're do for a lose ATS. Plus, Denver lost there last two ATS. You know where im gettin at. Sammy makes a good point about a Florida team playing at mile high as well. Not saying thats all the differnce, but sure it helps. Den -8
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 5:45 AM ET #23

    Look above posted by mgm casino wants u to think den is sooooo good casino been up'n the spread to -9.5 bucks +points tampa is the pick
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    Look above posted by mgm casino wants u to think den is sooooo good casino been up'n the spread to -9.5 bucks +points tampa is the pick
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 5:51 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    They buccs suck, they are due to get blown out and I guess the books know Denver is far superior. -9.5 is a gift
          



    Posted by another sportsbook casino see a trend . Opening line was DEN -7 now it shot up to -9.5 WoW making it look great then post tampa suckslol.   TAMPA +POINTS
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    They buccs suck, they are due to get blown out and I guess the books know Denver is far superior. -9.5 is a gift
          



    Posted by another sportsbook casino see a trend . Opening line was DEN -7 now it shot up to -9.5 WoW making it look great then post tampa suckslol.   TAMPA +POINTS
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2012 - 8:40 AM ET #25

    Bucs cannot stop the pass and they have lost 2 starters to boot.

    Manning should have a field day passing on em.

    Broncs -7.5
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    Bucs cannot stop the pass and they have lost 2 starters to boot.

    Manning should have a field day passing on em.

    Broncs -7.5
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