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    St. Louis at San Francisco (10/04/2009)

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 1:06 AM ET #1

    Away:  St. Louis [1-2 ATS]
    Home:  San Francisco [3-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Monster Park

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Marc Bulger (339)
    Rushing: Steven Jackson (288)
    Receiving: Laurent Robinson (167)

    San Francisco:
    Passing: Shaun Hill (548)
    Rushing: Frank Gore (241)
    Receiving: Vernon Davis (168)

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    Away:  St. Louis [1-2 ATS]
    Home:  San Francisco [3-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Monster Park

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Marc Bulger (339)
    Rushing: Steven Jackson (288)
    Receiving: Laurent Robinson (167)

    San Francisco:
    Passing: Shaun Hill (548)
    Rushing: Frank Gore (241)
    Receiving: Vernon Davis (168)

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 4:15 AM ET #2

    Rams suck especaily on the road. give me the 49ers plus the points. -10 go 49ers
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    Rams suck especaily on the road. give me the 49ers plus the points. -10 go 49ers
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 11:10 PM ET #3

    waiting for the niners alternate spreads. if i can get a spread around 3-6, i'm poundin it. this shit is gonna be embarrasing....potentially. niners dont rub me as a team you can backdoor against, BUT, singletary is stand-up, and if it gets ugly early.....nah.....the other voice inside was dead on: "this is your only bet this week bro....take the niners -9.5 small, and huge wit the alternate line...don't second-guess intuition and understanding!!". i say pound any line u want wit the niners. gonna get ugly. can't see singletary relaxing, so the players won't. and they just lost? yeah...
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    waiting for the niners alternate spreads. if i can get a spread around 3-6, i'm poundin it. this shit is gonna be embarrasing....potentially. niners dont rub me as a team you can backdoor against, BUT, singletary is stand-up, and if it gets ugly early.....nah.....the other voice inside was dead on: "this is your only bet this week bro....take the niners -9.5 small, and huge wit the alternate line...don't second-guess intuition and understanding!!". i say pound any line u want wit the niners. gonna get ugly. can't see singletary relaxing, so the players won't. and they just lost? yeah...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 11:17 PM ET #4

    so, i got tampa at 7.5, and i'm gonna wait on the alternate spread. Niners -3 to 6 is money in the bank. i dont need a bunch of wins or losses...i need profit. 9.5/10 seems kinda shaky with coffee yet to prove self. you need a runing game to establish the pass. still, rams do nada against the niners D. why not the under, you say??...why not!! see you guys sunday 
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    so, i got tampa at 7.5, and i'm gonna wait on the alternate spread. Niners -3 to 6 is money in the bank. i dont need a bunch of wins or losses...i need profit. 9.5/10 seems kinda shaky with coffee yet to prove self. you need a runing game to establish the pass. still, rams do nada against the niners D. why not the under, you say??...why not!! see you guys sunday 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 11:19 PM ET #5

    i meant wait on the alternate spread for the niners game. bucs wager was in soon as the lines were up. opinions on under versus a lower (3 to 6 point) spread for the niners? would love to discuss this
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    i meant wait on the alternate spread for the niners game. bucs wager was in soon as the lines were up. opinions on under versus a lower (3 to 6 point) spread for the niners? would love to discuss this
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 5:24 PM ET #6

    How about teasing them with the Giants on a 7 pter, that way you'll have both - less than a field goal and it will pay better than the alt line, but this is only cool if you like NY to cover less than a FG
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    How about teasing them with the Giants on a 7 pter, that way you'll have both - less than a field goal and it will pay better than the alt line, but this is only cool if you like NY to cover less than a FG
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 6:04 PM ET #7

    sf by 9.5 is my play guys this sf team is pissed of what happened last week, they are at home and they sure as hell are not the same sf team from last year
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    sf by 9.5 is my play guys this sf team is pissed of what happened last week, they are at home and they sure as hell are not the same sf team from last year
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 6:32 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    How about teasing them with the Giants on a 7 pter, that way you'll have both - less than a field goal and it will pay better than the alt line, but this is only cool if you like NY to cover less than a FG


    good point. i am now considering this option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    How about teasing them with the Giants on a 7 pter, that way you'll have both - less than a field goal and it will pay better than the alt line, but this is only cool if you like NY to cover less than a FG


    good point. i am now considering this option.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 7:08 PM ET #9

    49'ers or nothing here. -9. Does seem a little to good though. I'll take that chance. gl everybody.
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    49'ers or nothing here. -9. Does seem a little to good though. I'll take that chance. gl everybody.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 1:10 AM ET #10

    without gore, SF will struggle. glen coffee is good but green. he got off in the preseason. watch this line go up and grab the points.
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    without gore, SF will struggle. glen coffee is good but green. he got off in the preseason. watch this line go up and grab the points.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 10:43 AM ET #11

    one player does not make the team.. sf has shown good sport this year and they will continue doing so.. i think sf in a blowout
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    one player does not make the team.. sf has shown good sport this year and they will continue doing so.. i think sf in a blowout
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 3:52 PM ET #12

    Gore is out 3 weeks, with out him the 9ers suck on offense.  Take the points here, 9ers would be happy with a 3 point win this week against division foe
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    Gore is out 3 weeks, with out him the 9ers suck on offense.  Take the points here, 9ers would be happy with a 3 point win this week against division foe
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 4:52 PM ET #13

    really? they would be happy with a 3 point win? so last week when they kept the game within a touchdown what happened to them buddy? i dont think they will leave things off like this i think they score the 10 point difference and wait for st louis last drive and st louis sucks they won't score

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    really? they would be happy with a 3 point win? so last week when they kept the game within a touchdown what happened to them buddy? i dont think they will leave things off like this i think they score the 10 point difference and wait for st louis last drive and st louis sucks they won't score

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 9:13 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

    Gore is out 3 weeks, with out him the 9ers suck on offense.  Take the points here, 9ers would be happy with a 3 point win this week against division foe



    Ya know??? I agree with the above statement. That whole offense is built around Gore. Plus, after "The Gunslinger" crushed their dreams last week, Steven Jackson is a beast, with Bly & Smith hobbled - the Niners are light at DB, I think Kyle Boller is a better QB than stupid Bulger anyways, it is a division game, and the moneyline on the Rams is +350.............

    I may regret this, but..... I'm taking the Lambs straight up!!!!!!!!!! (small play, of course, but still)

    Either I'll be back in here talkin' SH**, or, I'll just be watching the next games.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

    Gore is out 3 weeks, with out him the 9ers suck on offense.  Take the points here, 9ers would be happy with a 3 point win this week against division foe



    Ya know??? I agree with the above statement. That whole offense is built around Gore. Plus, after "The Gunslinger" crushed their dreams last week, Steven Jackson is a beast, with Bly & Smith hobbled - the Niners are light at DB, I think Kyle Boller is a better QB than stupid Bulger anyways, it is a division game, and the moneyline on the Rams is +350.............

    I may regret this, but..... I'm taking the Lambs straight up!!!!!!!!!! (small play, of course, but still)

    Either I'll be back in here talkin' SH**, or, I'll just be watching the next games.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 10:38 PM ET #15

    hey guys i change my pick to st louis in this one
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    hey guys i change my pick to st louis in this one
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 9:00 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by doomsday07:

    Rams suck especaily on the road. give me the 49ers plus the points. -10 go 49ers


    Doomsday, I'm not sure if this is a mistake, or if you aren't sure of the terminology, (I think I've seen you do this in another thread of two...), but when one says 'plus the points', that usually means they are picking the underdog and are getting the points (added to the underdog's total).


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    Quote Originally Posted by doomsday07:

    Rams suck especaily on the road. give me the 49ers plus the points. -10 go 49ers


    Doomsday, I'm not sure if this is a mistake, or if you aren't sure of the terminology, (I think I've seen you do this in another thread of two...), but when one says 'plus the points', that usually means they are picking the underdog and are getting the points (added to the underdog's total).


     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 10:51 AM ET #17

    wow pro-z
    its really ahrd to keep track of all your pics lol
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    wow pro-z
    its really ahrd to keep track of all your pics lol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 11:07 AM ET #18

    kiley go to the oakland thread i posted them there good luck
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    kiley go to the oakland thread i posted them there good luck
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 6:35 PM ET #19

    St Louis is awful but without Gore they should cover here against SF...
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    St Louis is awful but without Gore they should cover here against SF...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:27 AM ET #20

    SF -9.5 
    GLTA 
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    SF -9.5 
    GLTA 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:38 AM ET #21

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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 2:00 AM ET #22

    Coffee, Robinson and Norris should 'hold down' the SF's "running-game fort" just fine.  Gore missed all but one sequence, in their match (last week) against Minnesota.  Yet, the Niners were still able to 'cover' comfortably.

    It seems well within the relm of possibility, that the Rams will be outplayed on both sides of the football . . . and at each end of the field.

    49ERS -9.5
      

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    Coffee, Robinson and Norris should 'hold down' the SF's "running-game fort" just fine.  Gore missed all but one sequence, in their match (last week) against Minnesota.  Yet, the Niners were still able to 'cover' comfortably.

    It seems well within the relm of possibility, that the Rams will be outplayed on both sides of the football . . . and at each end of the field.

    49ERS -9.5
      

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 2:03 AM ET #23

    Saint Louis Rams @ San Francisco 49ers

    I don't have much to say positively about Saint Louis, this is a weak team on all the sectors. Their QB is weak, their offense is weak (the exception being their rushing game), their defense is weak (miserable might be a better adjective). Then you have a lot of important players sidelined with injuries, which depletes a team that has already few quality players to contend against the other teams in the league. So things are not going quite well for the Rams and their coaching staff will have to come up with a lot of patchwork in order to play this game.

    San Francisco had a heart-breaking defeat last week, thanks to Brett Favre and Greg Lewis, with the former throwing a last second pass to the later, but the 49ers head coach already told to the press that the way they lost in Minneapolis won't cause troubles to the team, it will be quite the opposite, San Francisco is now much more ready and motivated than before for this game. Their calling card is an agressive defense, with put a lot fo work against the passing game and the rushing game as well, as we saw them do against the Vikes, where they neutralized with some degree of success the best rusher of the league (Adrian Peterson only had 85 yards for 19 carries, scoring is lowest average in his first three games with only 4.5 yards). The 49ers O shows a decent QB with good options on the passing game thanks to their nice wide receivers.

    With all the issues plaguing the Rams, knowing that the 49ers are the best team in all the field sectors, it is my belief that the 49ers will make the most of their home field advantage and win easily this game by 2 or more touchdowns.

    Pick: San Francisco 49ers -9 -110 (1,91) The Greek
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    Saint Louis Rams @ San Francisco 49ers

    I don't have much to say positively about Saint Louis, this is a weak team on all the sectors. Their QB is weak, their offense is weak (the exception being their rushing game), their defense is weak (miserable might be a better adjective). Then you have a lot of important players sidelined with injuries, which depletes a team that has already few quality players to contend against the other teams in the league. So things are not going quite well for the Rams and their coaching staff will have to come up with a lot of patchwork in order to play this game.

    San Francisco had a heart-breaking defeat last week, thanks to Brett Favre and Greg Lewis, with the former throwing a last second pass to the later, but the 49ers head coach already told to the press that the way they lost in Minneapolis won't cause troubles to the team, it will be quite the opposite, San Francisco is now much more ready and motivated than before for this game. Their calling card is an agressive defense, with put a lot fo work against the passing game and the rushing game as well, as we saw them do against the Vikes, where they neutralized with some degree of success the best rusher of the league (Adrian Peterson only had 85 yards for 19 carries, scoring is lowest average in his first three games with only 4.5 yards). The 49ers O shows a decent QB with good options on the passing game thanks to their nice wide receivers.

    With all the issues plaguing the Rams, knowing that the 49ers are the best team in all the field sectors, it is my belief that the 49ers will make the most of their home field advantage and win easily this game by 2 or more touchdowns.

    Pick: San Francisco 49ers -9 -110 (1,91) The Greek
     
    kyunman
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 2:35 AM ET #24

    st lou 1st qtr
    st lou 1st hlf
    st lou +9.5
    ST LOUIS ML.....
     
    SF-No Gore, No win!
    ST. L-Boller has a couple yrs under his belt.
     
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    st lou 1st qtr
    st lou 1st hlf
    st lou +9.5
    ST LOUIS ML.....
     
    SF-No Gore, No win!
    ST. L-Boller has a couple yrs under his belt.
     
     
     
    angrytiger
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 11:05 AM ET #25

    Heretic, I think you're right on with this one bro and I wouldn't even worry about waiting for alternate lines.

    I'm also totally with you in thinking that the way to win is to find your GAME and ride it.

    You guys pinning your hopes for the St. Louis Rams on the absence of Frank Gore are nuts! 

    Glen Coffee's gonna' have a HUGE day!

    And the 9ers are gonna destroy the Lambs.

    The 9er's one area of vulnerability is v. the pass but have you taken a look at who the Rams are serving up today due to injuries:  if Avery can't go, with Laurent Robinson already out, the starters would likely be Keenan Burton and Ruvell Martin, with Danny Amendola as #3 . . . . ?

    Granted, I will entertain an argument that Kyle Boller had a decent game last week and could be an upgrade over the oft-banged-up Bulger.

    But at the end of the day the Rams are averaging 8 points a game.
    They lost 28-0 . . . to Seattle.

    But more than anything, think about what happened to San Francisco last weekend and then think about Mike Singletary . . .

     . . . who said they lost last week because they didn't play for a full 60 minutes.

    If it's true what they say about a team being a reflection of it's coach's personality, the 49ers are going to win this game somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-3.




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    Heretic, I think you're right on with this one bro and I wouldn't even worry about waiting for alternate lines.

    I'm also totally with you in thinking that the way to win is to find your GAME and ride it.

    You guys pinning your hopes for the St. Louis Rams on the absence of Frank Gore are nuts! 

    Glen Coffee's gonna' have a HUGE day!

    And the 9ers are gonna destroy the Lambs.

    The 9er's one area of vulnerability is v. the pass but have you taken a look at who the Rams are serving up today due to injuries:  if Avery can't go, with Laurent Robinson already out, the starters would likely be Keenan Burton and Ruvell Martin, with Danny Amendola as #3 . . . . ?

    Granted, I will entertain an argument that Kyle Boller had a decent game last week and could be an upgrade over the oft-banged-up Bulger.

    But at the end of the day the Rams are averaging 8 points a game.
    They lost 28-0 . . . to Seattle.

    But more than anything, think about what happened to San Francisco last weekend and then think about Mike Singletary . . .

     . . . who said they lost last week because they didn't play for a full 60 minutes.

    If it's true what they say about a team being a reflection of it's coach's personality, the 49ers are going to win this game somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-3.




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