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    SYST3M4T1C
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 3:36 AM ET #26

    I like the Over.  Both teams love playing on turf to help speed things up.  This is Rams chance but I see Daunte to step up and hit at least 2 passing TDs.  Rams have horrible defense and what better toy than Calvin Johnson to pass to.
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    I like the Over.  Both teams love playing on turf to help speed things up.  This is Rams chance but I see Daunte to step up and hit at least 2 passing TDs.  Rams have horrible defense and what better toy than Calvin Johnson to pass to.
     
    HanoiBoi
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 8:38 AM ET #27

    Sure, this is an ugly game, but we have to agree that it's a pretty decent matchup. 

    Here's what I'm going by:

    STL avg  8.5 ppg
    DET avg 17 ppg

    Both teams giving up about 31.5 ppg

    DET ranked 6 total offense, 7 total D (cbssports.com)
    STL ranked 27 total offense, 21 total D (cbssports.com)

    DET at home
    DET off a bye week

    I've got to take the 1 win Lions over the winless Rams.
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    Sure, this is an ugly game, but we have to agree that it's a pretty decent matchup. 

    Here's what I'm going by:

    STL avg  8.5 ppg
    DET avg 17 ppg

    Both teams giving up about 31.5 ppg

    DET ranked 6 total offense, 7 total D (cbssports.com)
    STL ranked 27 total offense, 21 total D (cbssports.com)

    DET at home
    DET off a bye week

    I've got to take the 1 win Lions over the winless Rams.
     
    lookingtowin
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 8:58 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    Considering a small play on Rams ML if Stafford and Culpepper are no goes

    I hope they are both no shows. Then Drew finally gets a shot he is not that bad a QB just hasn't had a chance since his injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    Considering a small play on Rams ML if Stafford and Culpepper are no goes

    I hope they are both no shows. Then Drew finally gets a shot he is not that bad a QB just hasn't had a chance since his injury.

     
    BetCityOG
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 9:41 AM ET #29

    It's like a FAIL festival.
    Under maybe?
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    It's like a FAIL festival.
    Under maybe?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 10:14 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by aldogg702:

    wow, after all things said and considered, they are still NFL teams, rams and coach spags TRY hard, victims of lack of personel and executing simple plays, lions not much better... calvin johnson the cream of the lions O, stephen jackson cream of the rams O, cancel each other out and offenses are a wash.... defenses are a wash, numbers wise-lions are a hair better, rams have better personel.... i am taking the points, expect supreme effort from rams to get 1st and maybe the only win of the year... lions 20 - rams 17

    How are the rams going to win if you have it 20-17 detroit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldogg702:

    wow, after all things said and considered, they are still NFL teams, rams and coach spags TRY hard, victims of lack of personel and executing simple plays, lions not much better... calvin johnson the cream of the lions O, stephen jackson cream of the rams O, cancel each other out and offenses are a wash.... defenses are a wash, numbers wise-lions are a hair better, rams have better personel.... i am taking the points, expect supreme effort from rams to get 1st and maybe the only win of the year... lions 20 - rams 17

    How are the rams going to win if you have it 20-17 detroit?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 11:02 AM ET #31

    RAMS
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    RAMS
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 11:08 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by HanoiBoi:

    Sure, this is an ugly game, but we have to agree that it's a pretty decent matchup. 

    Here's what I'm going by:

    STL avg  8.5 ppg
    DET avg 17 ppg

    Both teams giving up about 31.5 ppg

    DET ranked 6 total offense, 7 total D (cbssports.com)
    STL ranked 27 total offense, 21 total D (cbssports.com)

    DET at home
    DET off a bye week

    I've got to take the 1 win Lions over the winless Rams.

    This info is wrong.  Lions Pass D ranks 30th and Rush D ranks 20th.  Rams win SU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HanoiBoi:

    Sure, this is an ugly game, but we have to agree that it's a pretty decent matchup. 

    Here's what I'm going by:

    STL avg  8.5 ppg
    DET avg 17 ppg

    Both teams giving up about 31.5 ppg

    DET ranked 6 total offense, 7 total D (cbssports.com)
    STL ranked 27 total offense, 21 total D (cbssports.com)

    DET at home
    DET off a bye week

    I've got to take the 1 win Lions over the winless Rams.

    This info is wrong.  Lions Pass D ranks 30th and Rush D ranks 20th.  Rams win SU.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 11:11 AM ET #33

    Who knows? 

    I usually love to take coaches against their former teams and I really believe that Linehan is a good coach despite the bad rap he got while in St. Louis. The guy was the best oc the Dolphins have had in 10 years and I think he would have had more success with the Rams if the organization wasn't so bad.

    The other thing that stands out to me is this is the Rams best chance to win this season. They already blew their chances against the people and the Skins. After this weekend the only game I can see them possibly winning is against the.....? If the Rams don't win here they have a very, very good chance of going 0 for the season.  

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    Who knows? 

    I usually love to take coaches against their former teams and I really believe that Linehan is a good coach despite the bad rap he got while in St. Louis. The guy was the best oc the Dolphins have had in 10 years and I think he would have had more success with the Rams if the organization wasn't so bad.

    The other thing that stands out to me is this is the Rams best chance to win this season. They already blew their chances against the people and the Skins. After this weekend the only game I can see them possibly winning is against the.....? If the Rams don't win here they have a very, very good chance of going 0 for the season.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 12:00 PM ET #34

    Det -4: battle of the heavy weights, two ugly teams, Offensive Coach Scott Linehan will be able to take advantage of the hapless lambs (he coached the Rams from 2006-2008). If Stafford is back, I’ll lay at least 1 unit on the Lions at Home. If it weren’t for Detroit’s lousy team, I’d be betting at least 4 units against the lambs. The Under may be the play of the day. Score: Lions 18 – Rams 6 (1 units).

    DET/Stl UNDER 43.5 (2 units)
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    Det -4: battle of the heavy weights, two ugly teams, Offensive Coach Scott Linehan will be able to take advantage of the hapless lambs (he coached the Rams from 2006-2008). If Stafford is back, I’ll lay at least 1 unit on the Lions at Home. If it weren’t for Detroit’s lousy team, I’d be betting at least 4 units against the lambs. The Under may be the play of the day. Score: Lions 18 – Rams 6 (1 units).

    DET/Stl UNDER 43.5 (2 units)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 12:06 PM ET #35

    Stephen Jackson will have a big game...would take the Rams for their only win if they didn't have to play defence.
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    Stephen Jackson will have a big game...would take the Rams for their only win if they didn't have to play defence.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 12:08 PM ET #36

    Rams get their win.  Rams dont want to be the 2nd team in 2 years to go winless.
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    Rams get their win.  Rams dont want to be the 2nd team in 2 years to go winless.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 12:18 PM ET #37

    would the rams not be happy enough to go winless and get the no.1 draft pick
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    would the rams not be happy enough to go winless and get the no.1 draft pick
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 12:30 PM ET #38

    No D, No Problem -- VER  43.5
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    No D, No Problem -- VER  43.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 12:54 PM ET #39

    Rams +4.5

     

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    Rams +4.5

     

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2009 - 3:40 PM ET #40

    QUOTE

    Originally Posted by aldogg702:

    wow, after all things said and considered, they are still NFL teams, rams and coach spags TRY hard, victims of lack of personel and executing simple plays, lions not much better... calvin johnson the cream of the lions O, stephen jackson cream of the rams O, cancel each other out and offenses are a wash.... defenses are a wash, numbers wise-lions are a hair better, rams have better personel.... i am taking the points, expect supreme effort from rams to get 1st and maybe the only win of the year... lions 20 - rams 17

    How are the rams going to win if you have it 20-17 detroit?

     

    mush,

    they may or may not get thier first win, i said expect supreme effort, i am taking the points, +3.5, if they win the game or not, the bettors will win if the final is 20-17 and you took the points... expect supreme effort from the rams to get their first win of the season, i am taking the points... 20-17, still... as of the beginning of the 4th q, knotted at 10-10

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    QUOTE

    Originally Posted by aldogg702:

    wow, after all things said and considered, they are still NFL teams, rams and coach spags TRY hard, victims of lack of personel and executing simple plays, lions not much better... calvin johnson the cream of the lions O, stephen jackson cream of the rams O, cancel each other out and offenses are a wash.... defenses are a wash, numbers wise-lions are a hair better, rams have better personel.... i am taking the points, expect supreme effort from rams to get 1st and maybe the only win of the year... lions 20 - rams 17

    How are the rams going to win if you have it 20-17 detroit?

     

    mush,

    they may or may not get thier first win, i said expect supreme effort, i am taking the points, +3.5, if they win the game or not, the bettors will win if the final is 20-17 and you took the points... expect supreme effort from the rams to get their first win of the season, i am taking the points... 20-17, still... as of the beginning of the 4th q, knotted at 10-10

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