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    St. Louis at Detroit (09/09/2012)

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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2012 - 11:21 AM ET #1

    Away:  St. Louis [0-0 ATS]
    Home:  Detroit [0-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ford Field

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    Away:  St. Louis [0-0 ATS]
    Home:  Detroit [0-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ford Field

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    Posted: Sep. 1, 2012 - 3:11 PM ET #2

    I'll probably be singing the BLUES after this one's over but I'm losing my money on Bradford & Company.

    Detroit - 20                                    St Louis - 13

    Rams +9                                    under 46.5 

    Lions giving an NFC West team points  There was a time the Lions had problems covering vs West teams. I'll be a sucker and take the Rams.

    St Louis - Under

     

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    I'll probably be singing the BLUES after this one's over but I'm losing my money on Bradford & Company.

    Detroit - 20                                    St Louis - 13

    Rams +9                                    under 46.5 

    Lions giving an NFC West team points  There was a time the Lions had problems covering vs West teams. I'll be a sucker and take the Rams.

    St Louis - Under

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2012 - 3:59 PM ET #3

    LIONS WIN STL COVERS
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    LIONS WIN STL COVERS
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2012 - 6:13 PM ET #4

    Saint Louis Rams +9
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    Saint Louis Rams +9
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2012 - 10:39 PM ET #5

    rams imporve their game under Coach Jeff Fischer ,

    Lions get taken down a small notch ,not as good as last year

    Lions win but not by much

    RAMS +9 to cover

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    rams imporve their game under Coach Jeff Fischer ,

    Lions get taken down a small notch ,not as good as last year

    Lions win but not by much

    RAMS +9 to cover

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 1:29 AM ET #6

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    Question is - who's going to stop this ferocious front 4 for the Lions, and who is Bradford going to pass to?? What did the Rams really do to shore up their O-Line and receiver issues? Pulled this off of a Rams blog:

    {Right now, assuming Dahl will be healthy for the regular-season opener in Detroit, the line looks like this:

    LT: Rodger Saffold (started 9 games with STL in 2011)
    LG: Quinn Ojinnaka (started 3 games with Colts in 2011)
    C: Scott Wells (started 16 games in 2010 and 2011 with GB)
    RG: Harvey Dahl (started 16 games with STL in 2011)
    RT: Barry Richardson (started 16 games with KC in 2011) 

    So that's one guy who played a full season in St. Louis last year. Hunter is right behind Richardson if there are any issues at RT. Will Paul Boudreau be so quick to insert Hunter if Sam Bradford gets eaten alive by Kyle Vanden Bosch and Ndamukong Suh in Week 1? I wouldn't be so sure about that, but stability will be the key with this unit in 2012. It's all about staying on the field. 

    There is also still no deep threat 

    It's been an issue for St. Louis, it seems like, ever since Torry Holt retired. This team has had no bona fide deep-ball threat. In a league that is growing in terms of how big and strong wide receivers are becoming, the Rams have seemingly been left behind.

    Danario Alexander was ravaged by injuries, and Donnie Avery never panned out. Now the Rams can turn to Steve Smith, a career slot receiver, to help fill a void Sam Bradford has painfully dealt with since he was drafted. 

    The longest completion of the preseason was 46 yards, a pass from Bradford to Smith. In fact, the longest completion of 2011 was 68 yards. That number has to go up this season for the Rams to have any chance at competing in the NFC West. 

    Danny Amendola is a guy who can catch the ball and run with it. Can Steve Smith be a deep-ball threat—a guy who run go-routes and reach out to grab a Sam Bradford bomb? He's 5'11", 195 compared with Alexander's 6'5", 217. Yikes. 

    Smith reeled in six catches for 84 yards this summer. Fans got to see a little bit of what he can do. Still, it's clear that the Rams need someone who can run a long distance and reach up to catch the football.}

     

     My prediction - 0-0 is the only time this season the Rams will be at or above .500

    I see a 20-3 or 21-0 type game, with the Lions "D" being responsible for 7 of those points.....

    Lions minus whatever the line is.......

     
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    Question is - who's going to stop this ferocious front 4 for the Lions, and who is Bradford going to pass to?? What did the Rams really do to shore up their O-Line and receiver issues? Pulled this off of a Rams blog:

    {Right now, assuming Dahl will be healthy for the regular-season opener in Detroit, the line looks like this:

    LT: Rodger Saffold (started 9 games with STL in 2011)
    LG: Quinn Ojinnaka (started 3 games with Colts in 2011)
    C: Scott Wells (started 16 games in 2010 and 2011 with GB)
    RG: Harvey Dahl (started 16 games with STL in 2011)
    RT: Barry Richardson (started 16 games with KC in 2011) 

    So that's one guy who played a full season in St. Louis last year. Hunter is right behind Richardson if there are any issues at RT. Will Paul Boudreau be so quick to insert Hunter if Sam Bradford gets eaten alive by Kyle Vanden Bosch and Ndamukong Suh in Week 1? I wouldn't be so sure about that, but stability will be the key with this unit in 2012. It's all about staying on the field. 

    There is also still no deep threat 

    It's been an issue for St. Louis, it seems like, ever since Torry Holt retired. This team has had no bona fide deep-ball threat. In a league that is growing in terms of how big and strong wide receivers are becoming, the Rams have seemingly been left behind.

    Danario Alexander was ravaged by injuries, and Donnie Avery never panned out. Now the Rams can turn to Steve Smith, a career slot receiver, to help fill a void Sam Bradford has painfully dealt with since he was drafted. 

    The longest completion of the preseason was 46 yards, a pass from Bradford to Smith. In fact, the longest completion of 2011 was 68 yards. That number has to go up this season for the Rams to have any chance at competing in the NFC West. 

    Danny Amendola is a guy who can catch the ball and run with it. Can Steve Smith be a deep-ball threat—a guy who run go-routes and reach out to grab a Sam Bradford bomb? He's 5'11", 195 compared with Alexander's 6'5", 217. Yikes. 

    Smith reeled in six catches for 84 yards this summer. Fans got to see a little bit of what he can do. Still, it's clear that the Rams need someone who can run a long distance and reach up to catch the football.}

     

     My prediction - 0-0 is the only time this season the Rams will be at or above .500

    I see a 20-3 or 21-0 type game, with the Lions "D" being responsible for 7 of those points.....

    Lions minus whatever the line is.......

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 5:11 PM ET #8

    {{sorry, cont.}}

    There is still no deep threat

    It's been an issue for St. Louis, it seems like, ever since Torry Holt retired. This team has had no bona fide deep-ball threat. In a league that is growing in terms of how big and strong wide receivers are becoming, the Rams have seemingly been left behind.

    Danario Alexander was ravaged by injuries, and Donnie Avery never panned out. Now the Rams can turn to Steve Smith, a career slot receiver, to help fill a void Sam Bradford has painfully dealt with since he was drafted. 

    The longest completion of the preseason was 46 yards, a pass from Bradford to Smith. In fact, the longest completion of 2011 was 68 yards. That number has to go up this season for the Rams to have any chance at competing in the NFC West. 

    Danny Amendola is a guy who can catch the ball and run with it. Can Steve Smith be a deep-ball threat—a guy who run go-routes and reach out to grab a Sam Bradford bomb? He's 5'11", 195 compared with Alexander's 6'5", 217. Yikes. 

    Smith reeled in six catches for 84 yards this summer. Fans got to see a little bit of what he can do. Still, it's clear that the Rams need someone who can run a long distance and reach up to catch the football. 

     
    Prediction - 0-0 is the only time the Rams are at or above .500 this year
     
    I can see this game wind up at 20-3 or 21-0 - - with the Lions "D" resposible for at least 7 of those points
     
    Lions minus whatever the line is

     
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    {{sorry, cont.}}

    There is still no deep threat

    It's been an issue for St. Louis, it seems like, ever since Torry Holt retired. This team has had no bona fide deep-ball threat. In a league that is growing in terms of how big and strong wide receivers are becoming, the Rams have seemingly been left behind.

    Danario Alexander was ravaged by injuries, and Donnie Avery never panned out. Now the Rams can turn to Steve Smith, a career slot receiver, to help fill a void Sam Bradford has painfully dealt with since he was drafted. 

    The longest completion of the preseason was 46 yards, a pass from Bradford to Smith. In fact, the longest completion of 2011 was 68 yards. That number has to go up this season for the Rams to have any chance at competing in the NFC West. 

    Danny Amendola is a guy who can catch the ball and run with it. Can Steve Smith be a deep-ball threat—a guy who run go-routes and reach out to grab a Sam Bradford bomb? He's 5'11", 195 compared with Alexander's 6'5", 217. Yikes. 

    Smith reeled in six catches for 84 yards this summer. Fans got to see a little bit of what he can do. Still, it's clear that the Rams need someone who can run a long distance and reach up to catch the football. 

     
    Prediction - 0-0 is the only time the Rams are at or above .500 this year
     
    I can see this game wind up at 20-3 or 21-0 - - with the Lions "D" resposible for at least 7 of those points
     
    Lions minus whatever the line is

     
     
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    {{dammit, sorry, cont. again}}

    I predict starting 0-0 is the only time this season the Rams will be at or above .500

    I also see this game like 20-3 or 21-0 with the Lions "D" responsible for at least 7 of those points.

    Lions minus whateve the line is

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    {{dammit, sorry, cont. again}}

    I predict starting 0-0 is the only time this season the Rams will be at or above .500

    I also see this game like 20-3 or 21-0 with the Lions "D" responsible for at least 7 of those points.

    Lions minus whateve the line is

     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2012 - 6:00 PM ET #10

     I totally agree with Quad's game assessment. Let's see- the Lions won 10 games LY and made the playoffs after close to a decade of futility. And Sunday's game pits them against the TO prone Rams who delighted their fans with another 2-14 season. Surely the arrival of Jeff Fisher has to help some. Could it get any worst for Sam Bradford LY. If you followed the play-by-play charts, every other possession, he was either throwing INT or dropping the damn ball! If you believe that Fisher (who couldn't get the Titans to win) will perform miracles against the playoff bound Lions, then you'll RUN not walk to your bookie ,to bet on the Lambs. However if your not INSANE, then Detroit with the proven record (also backed up with stats and trends), is the obvious bet here.

    DETROIT  -7  (PRIME BET!)

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     I totally agree with Quad's game assessment. Let's see- the Lions won 10 games LY and made the playoffs after close to a decade of futility. And Sunday's game pits them against the TO prone Rams who delighted their fans with another 2-14 season. Surely the arrival of Jeff Fisher has to help some. Could it get any worst for Sam Bradford LY. If you followed the play-by-play charts, every other possession, he was either throwing INT or dropping the damn ball! If you believe that Fisher (who couldn't get the Titans to win) will perform miracles against the playoff bound Lions, then you'll RUN not walk to your bookie ,to bet on the Lambs. However if your not INSANE, then Detroit with the proven record (also backed up with stats and trends), is the obvious bet here.

    DETROIT  -7  (PRIME BET!)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2012 - 8:21 PM ET #11

    WOW LINE HAS MOVED 2PTS TO -7 FOR LEOS AT SOME SHOPS. PUBLIC LOVES THIS DETROIT TEAM...FISHER KNOWS THAT JERKOFF SCHWARTZ BETTER THAN ANYONE. ILL FOLLOW MONEY
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    WOW LINE HAS MOVED 2PTS TO -7 FOR LEOS AT SOME SHOPS. PUBLIC LOVES THIS DETROIT TEAM...FISHER KNOWS THAT JERKOFF SCHWARTZ BETTER THAN ANYONE. ILL FOLLOW MONEY
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2012 - 11:49 PM ET #12

    Excellent analysis Quad!!  I mucho  appreciate the breakdown. My model has Detroit blowing them out. I got them at -7 large. . I love your logic here.




    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    {{dammit, sorry, cont. again}}

    I predict starting 0-0 is the only time this season the Rams will be at or above .500

    I also see this game like 20-3 or 21-0 with the Lions "D" responsible for at least 7 of those points.

    Lions minus whateve the line is

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    Excellent analysis Quad!!  I mucho  appreciate the breakdown. My model has Detroit blowing them out. I got them at -7 large. . I love your logic here.




    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    {{dammit, sorry, cont. again}}

    I predict starting 0-0 is the only time this season the Rams will be at or above .500

    I also see this game like 20-3 or 21-0 with the Lions "D" responsible for at least 7 of those points.

    Lions minus whateve the line is

     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2012 - 11:36 PM ET #13

    drtroit has there top 3 RB,S out and keven smith is playing with a score ankel/ braford has looked good this preseson. but not aginst detroit deff/ takeing the under;;;;
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    drtroit has there top 3 RB,S out and keven smith is playing with a score ankel/ braford has looked good this preseson. but not aginst detroit deff/ takeing the under;;;;
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2012 - 12:44 PM ET #14

    Det-9 small play
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    Det-9 small play
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2012 - 9:48 PM ET #15

    under/47

    GLA

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    under/47

    GLA

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2012 - 4:15 AM ET #16

    Why isnt Dtown favored by 14 or more?  Against the Lambs secondary?  Sober thoughts must think Detroit in a route.  Coach Fisher or not, they dont compete here IMO.
    GLTA

     
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    Why isnt Dtown favored by 14 or more?  Against the Lambs secondary?  Sober thoughts must think Detroit in a route.  Coach Fisher or not, they dont compete here IMO.
    GLTA

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2012 - 9:56 AM ET #17

    LOOK LIONS TO HATE ANY NFC WEST
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    LOOK LIONS TO HATE ANY NFC WEST
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2012 - 5:21 PM ET #18

    Detriot on the road in the dome (just like at home)

    DET -8.5

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    Detriot on the road in the dome (just like at home)

    DET -8.5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2012 - 7:46 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by micheal_420:

    Detriot on the road in the dome (just like at home)

    DET -8.5


    Lions at home !  Lions -9   
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    Quote Originally Posted by micheal_420:

    Detriot on the road in the dome (just like at home)

    DET -8.5


    Lions at home !  Lions -9   
     
    the1andonly12
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2012 - 10:14 PM ET #20

    Detroit -9 and the over 45.5

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    Detroit -9 and the over 45.5

    GLTA

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 2:56 AM ET #21

    oveR 45.5...BOTH TEAMS HAS NO DEFENCE..

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    oveR 45.5...BOTH TEAMS HAS NO DEFENCE..

     
    oahuboy808
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 4:58 AM ET #22

    Detroit for me.. BoL guys
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    Detroit for me.. BoL guys
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 5:48 AM ET #23

    Lions -9

     

    season

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    Lions -9

     

    season

     
    Evenstar2012
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 6:27 AM ET #24

    I dont understand how people can hit the under on this one.

    Lions are a passing team and now their RBs are all out/injured. So they are going to pass even more. Which in general means a bigger chance of a shootout/shitloads of points.

    Both defenses suck, both secondaries suck. This can end up being a high scoring game.

    Im hitting the Lions team total myself.
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    I dont understand how people can hit the under on this one.

    Lions are a passing team and now their RBs are all out/injured. So they are going to pass even more. Which in general means a bigger chance of a shootout/shitloads of points.

    Both defenses suck, both secondaries suck. This can end up being a high scoring game.

    Im hitting the Lions team total myself.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 10:07 AM ET #25

    Stl and Over
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    Stl and Over
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