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    San Francisco at Miami (12/14/2008)

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    Broncos62577
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 1:04 AM ET #26

    I have placed my largest wager of the season on this game.  I have Miami -6.  I have put $5K on this game and feel great about it.  Several factors to consider here.  I see ppl mentioning SF beating Buffalo in Buffalo.  So what?  Buffalo is terrible, plain and simple.  Next, I see SF win vs. the Jets being brought up.  Again, so what?  Jets lost at Oakland as well.  They obviously have problems going West.  Now for some info to chew on.
     
    SF has the WORST TO differential in the league at -14, Miami has the BEST at +12.  Huge.  Miami's motivation is much more than SF.  Miami wins out, they win division.  Chad Pennington is among the top in the NFL in QB rating.  The splitting of running duties will wear SF D out, especially with all the traveling.  SF is not a very good team and they can only play over their heads for so long and unfortunately, this week is where it ends.  Porter is the league sack leader.  Miami crowd will play a roll as they are fired up.  BTW, west coast teams going east are only 1-14 this season.  Only three games have been covered when it is a 1:00 start time.  Miami wins by DD in this one.
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    I have placed my largest wager of the season on this game.  I have Miami -6.  I have put $5K on this game and feel great about it.  Several factors to consider here.  I see ppl mentioning SF beating Buffalo in Buffalo.  So what?  Buffalo is terrible, plain and simple.  Next, I see SF win vs. the Jets being brought up.  Again, so what?  Jets lost at Oakland as well.  They obviously have problems going West.  Now for some info to chew on.
     
    SF has the WORST TO differential in the league at -14, Miami has the BEST at +12.  Huge.  Miami's motivation is much more than SF.  Miami wins out, they win division.  Chad Pennington is among the top in the NFL in QB rating.  The splitting of running duties will wear SF D out, especially with all the traveling.  SF is not a very good team and they can only play over their heads for so long and unfortunately, this week is where it ends.  Porter is the league sack leader.  Miami crowd will play a roll as they are fired up.  BTW, west coast teams going east are only 1-14 this season.  Only three games have been covered when it is a 1:00 start time.  Miami wins by DD in this one.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 12:33 PM ET #27

    for all reasons stated above, going LARGE on miami.
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    for all reasons stated above, going LARGE on miami.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 1:12 PM ET #28

    I have it 23 to 21 Fish
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    I have it 23 to 21 Fish
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 1:25 PM ET #29

    I like Miami here, think they roll. 49ers flying east for the second time in 3 weeks... GL to all 
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    I like Miami here, think they roll. 49ers flying east for the second time in 3 weeks... GL to all 
     
    Broncos62577
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 1:52 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by snowjocky:

    I have it 23 to 21 Fish

     

    You really see the 49ers putting up 21 on Miami huh?  BOL with that seeing as they could only muster 10 at Buffalo with their TD coming on the opening drive of the game.  Wouldn't be surprised to see SF score 10 or less this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjocky:

    I have it 23 to 21 Fish

     

    You really see the 49ers putting up 21 on Miami huh?  BOL with that seeing as they could only muster 10 at Buffalo with their TD coming on the opening drive of the game.  Wouldn't be surprised to see SF score 10 or less this week.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 3:01 PM ET #31

    Like the fish to win 17-14 or so.....The only team that won going east was this one.... Fish are not a blow out team IMO
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    Like the fish to win 17-14 or so.....The only team that won going east was this one.... Fish are not a blow out team IMO
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 4:25 PM ET #32

    Love this game! The 49'ers cannot protect the QB because of the idiot they have as offensive coordinator. The Dolphins rush the passer really well.

    The Jets did not show up against the 49'ers last week so ignore that 49'er win. The Niners now fly all the way across the country to play a team that has a great shot to make the playoffs in the Dolphins.

    Look for plenty of sacks by the Dolphins and maybe a defensive TD from them...Dolphins by 10 or more.


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    Love this game! The 49'ers cannot protect the QB because of the idiot they have as offensive coordinator. The Dolphins rush the passer really well.

    The Jets did not show up against the 49'ers last week so ignore that 49'er win. The Niners now fly all the way across the country to play a team that has a great shot to make the playoffs in the Dolphins.

    Look for plenty of sacks by the Dolphins and maybe a defensive TD from them...Dolphins by 10 or more.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 4:44 PM ET #33

    The 49ers spend a lot of money last off season to beef up their defense, especially the secondary.
     
    It appears to be coming into the right form under the direction of Singletary.
     
    The whole 49ers team is playing with a different attitude.. and they are playing competitive football.
     
    Miami is also playing well enough (and i've made money on them this season betting on them or fading them at the right games) but against this San Fran team, it should be a close game.
     
    Only one team from the west has won in the east and that team is the Niners (vs Buff)... and a team that has done it once before will feel confident enough to do it again.
     
    I am playing 49ers +6 1/2 and 49ers Moneyline +235
     
    IMO, this is the best game for a SU upset this week with a line above 3.
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    The 49ers spend a lot of money last off season to beef up their defense, especially the secondary.
     
    It appears to be coming into the right form under the direction of Singletary.
     
    The whole 49ers team is playing with a different attitude.. and they are playing competitive football.
     
    Miami is also playing well enough (and i've made money on them this season betting on them or fading them at the right games) but against this San Fran team, it should be a close game.
     
    Only one team from the west has won in the east and that team is the Niners (vs Buff)... and a team that has done it once before will feel confident enough to do it again.
     
    I am playing 49ers +6 1/2 and 49ers Moneyline +235
     
    IMO, this is the best game for a SU upset this week with a line above 3.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 4:58 PM ET #34

    I liked Miami till the entire board did....Take further look... Hill is due for a bad game and Gore in not at full steam.......Guess I'll be with the rest of pack on this one...
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    I liked Miami till the entire board did....Take further look... Hill is due for a bad game and Gore in not at full steam.......Guess I'll be with the rest of pack on this one...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 5:13 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by 94slug:

    I liked Miami till the entire board did....Take further look... Hill is due for a bad game and Gore in not at full steam.......Guess I'll be with the rest of pack on this one...

     

    due for a bad game?  I never understood how a team or player could be "due" for something.  could it be that he's just a solid player?  you don't get lucky for very long in the nfl and this guy has proven himself and he has the team playing well around him.  take the points this, could be a win straight up.

    niners +7 (5 units)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94slug:

    I liked Miami till the entire board did....Take further look... Hill is due for a bad game and Gore in not at full steam.......Guess I'll be with the rest of pack on this one...

     

    due for a bad game?  I never understood how a team or player could be "due" for something.  could it be that he's just a solid player?  you don't get lucky for very long in the nfl and this guy has proven himself and he has the team playing well around him.  take the points this, could be a win straight up.

    niners +7 (5 units)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 1:02 AM ET #36

    Love Portland Trailblazers, Barcelona FC, and closely behind San Fran 49ers but no way the are winning, and doubting that they cover without Frank Gore.
     
    Dolphins -6 in Vegas
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    Love Portland Trailblazers, Barcelona FC, and closely behind San Fran 49ers but no way the are winning, and doubting that they cover without Frank Gore.
     
    Dolphins -6 in Vegas
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 1:04 AM ET #37

    This line just smells like the books are begging for SF money.  SF coming off a big win vs. NYJ, Miami not winning impressively, yet SF getting 6.5?  Vegas understands a lot about public perception when making their lines and this line illustrates that big time.  They know many public bettors are going to buy the .5 to make it SF +7 and this gets them even more juice.  That is the only reason why the line is what it is, so the books can charge more to get it to that magic 7 number for SF.  I would be worried if the books had the line lower, such as 5 but for the reasons above, Vegas is getting what they want, SF bettors paying extra to get +7.  As I've said, this is my biggest play to date for a reason.  While public is slightly favoring Miami, those stats are only at posted line, buying points is not as easy to track or find out.
     
    By lowering the line to 6, Vegas is telling us that the SF bettors are eating up the half point and now they are daring SF bettors to spend even more and buy a whole point, you know, "just to be safe".  One Time has SF +7 posted as his play yet the line has never reached +7, at least not in Vegas.  So this tells me that he is one of those that have bought that half point or full point and paid for it.  Now, when Miami wins and covers, Vegas has already made so much extra on that extra juice, they are going to make out quite nicely on this game.
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    This line just smells like the books are begging for SF money.  SF coming off a big win vs. NYJ, Miami not winning impressively, yet SF getting 6.5?  Vegas understands a lot about public perception when making their lines and this line illustrates that big time.  They know many public bettors are going to buy the .5 to make it SF +7 and this gets them even more juice.  That is the only reason why the line is what it is, so the books can charge more to get it to that magic 7 number for SF.  I would be worried if the books had the line lower, such as 5 but for the reasons above, Vegas is getting what they want, SF bettors paying extra to get +7.  As I've said, this is my biggest play to date for a reason.  While public is slightly favoring Miami, those stats are only at posted line, buying points is not as easy to track or find out.
     
    By lowering the line to 6, Vegas is telling us that the SF bettors are eating up the half point and now they are daring SF bettors to spend even more and buy a whole point, you know, "just to be safe".  One Time has SF +7 posted as his play yet the line has never reached +7, at least not in Vegas.  So this tells me that he is one of those that have bought that half point or full point and paid for it.  Now, when Miami wins and covers, Vegas has already made so much extra on that extra juice, they are going to make out quite nicely on this game.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 4:58 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Broncos62577:

    This line just smells like the books are begging for SF money.  SF coming off a big win vs. NYJ, Miami not winning impressively, yet SF getting 6.5?  Vegas understands a lot about public perception when making their lines and this line illustrates that big time.  They know many public bettors are going to buy the .5 to make it SF +7 and this gets them even more juice.  That is the only reason why the line is what it is, so the books can charge more to get it to that magic 7 number for SF.  I would be worried if the books had the line lower, such as 5 but for the reasons above, Vegas is getting what they want, SF bettors paying extra to get +7.  As I've said, this is my biggest play to date for a reason.  While public is slightly favoring Miami, those stats are only at posted line, buying points is not as easy to track or find out.
     
    By lowering the line to 6, Vegas is telling us that the SF bettors are eating up the half point and now they are daring SF bettors to spend even more and buy a whole point, you know, "just to be safe".  One Time has SF +7 posted as his play yet the line has never reached +7, at least not in Vegas.  So this tells me that he is one of those that have bought that half point or full point and paid for it.  Now, when Miami wins and covers, Vegas has already made so much extra on that extra juice, they are going to make out quite nicely on this game.

    nice analysis genius. i guess you have it all figured out. Then tell me pray tell, what is the science behind it if San Fran wins? Go to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncos62577:

    This line just smells like the books are begging for SF money.  SF coming off a big win vs. NYJ, Miami not winning impressively, yet SF getting 6.5?  Vegas understands a lot about public perception when making their lines and this line illustrates that big time.  They know many public bettors are going to buy the .5 to make it SF +7 and this gets them even more juice.  That is the only reason why the line is what it is, so the books can charge more to get it to that magic 7 number for SF.  I would be worried if the books had the line lower, such as 5 but for the reasons above, Vegas is getting what they want, SF bettors paying extra to get +7.  As I've said, this is my biggest play to date for a reason.  While public is slightly favoring Miami, those stats are only at posted line, buying points is not as easy to track or find out.
     
    By lowering the line to 6, Vegas is telling us that the SF bettors are eating up the half point and now they are daring SF bettors to spend even more and buy a whole point, you know, "just to be safe".  One Time has SF +7 posted as his play yet the line has never reached +7, at least not in Vegas.  So this tells me that he is one of those that have bought that half point or full point and paid for it.  Now, when Miami wins and covers, Vegas has already made so much extra on that extra juice, they are going to make out quite nicely on this game.

    nice analysis genius. i guess you have it all figured out. Then tell me pray tell, what is the science behind it if San Fran wins? Go to bed.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 5:49 AM ET #39

    Its not fair for people to keep discounting the 49ers last two wins.  Bottom line, they beat two division rivals of Miami in the past two weeks.  San Fran is just building confidence for the first time in years under a new head coach and Miami is not an overpowering team.  This is going to be a close game that will be decided by a field goal, probably in favor of the Fins.  

    17-14 Miami
    SF +6 
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    Its not fair for people to keep discounting the 49ers last two wins.  Bottom line, they beat two division rivals of Miami in the past two weeks.  San Fran is just building confidence for the first time in years under a new head coach and Miami is not an overpowering team.  This is going to be a close game that will be decided by a field goal, probably in favor of the Fins.  

    17-14 Miami
    SF +6 
    UNDER 41
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 9:58 AM ET #40

    Gore is out today. Per NFL Network
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    Gore is out today. Per NFL Network
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 9:58 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by dubc:

    nice analysis genius. i guess you have it all figured out. Then tell me pray tell, what is the science behind it if San Fran wins? Go to bed.

     

    Wow, you're very lonely aren't you?  I'm sorry your life sucks so bad.  Try not to hang yourself on Christmas Eve when your lying there thinking about how broke you are and how you are all alone.  God Bless your empty soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubc:

    nice analysis genius. i guess you have it all figured out. Then tell me pray tell, what is the science behind it if San Fran wins? Go to bed.

     

    Wow, you're very lonely aren't you?  I'm sorry your life sucks so bad.  Try not to hang yourself on Christmas Eve when your lying there thinking about how broke you are and how you are all alone.  God Bless your empty soul.

     
    andreagassi6969
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 10:20 AM ET #42

    niners and under
     
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    niners and under
     
     
    TOBIGD
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 10:25 AM ET #43

    This is the Dolphins last home regular season game, next week at the Chiefs and last game at Jets. I look for the dolphins to cover with the niners not having Frank Gore. It was stated that the niners came east and beat buffalo in a early game They also put Trent Edwards out of the game leaving buffalo with Losman as QB.
    The Dolphins are a better team than the Bills at this time of the season. Dolphins need this game for a chance to be the front runner for the playoffs in the AFC East.
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    This is the Dolphins last home regular season game, next week at the Chiefs and last game at Jets. I look for the dolphins to cover with the niners not having Frank Gore. It was stated that the niners came east and beat buffalo in a early game They also put Trent Edwards out of the game leaving buffalo with Losman as QB.
    The Dolphins are a better team than the Bills at this time of the season. Dolphins need this game for a chance to be the front runner for the playoffs in the AFC East.
     
    aciraq
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 11:13 AM ET #44

    Niners and the points. Singletary is ready.
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    Niners and the points. Singletary is ready.
     
    aciraq
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 11:21 AM ET #45

    Ooops! Gore inactive, gonna sit this one out.
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    Ooops! Gore inactive, gonna sit this one out.
     
    aciraq
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 11:21 AM ET #46

    Ooops! Gore inactive, gonna sit this one out.
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    Ooops! Gore inactive, gonna sit this one out.
     
    mohjo
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 11:38 AM ET #47

    no gore no hope
     
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    no gore no hope
     
     
    grassman
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 11:57 AM ET #48

    dolphins with something to play for first time since i let my season tickets go   pennington short passer alot of wind   good running game  =MIA  = cover=
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    dolphins with something to play for first time since i let my season tickets go   pennington short passer alot of wind   good running game  =MIA  = cover=
     
    ClassyAnski
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 12:24 PM ET #49

    Got cold feet with the straight line ... Went with my typical 7pt Sunday teaser ... Like points to be scored in this game, and I also like the 49ers to keep it close just because they are peaking with momentum after what they did to the Jets last week ... Anyway, I got cold feet, so I went with this ...
     
    Dolphins +1.5, over 34 ... Need both to hit
     
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    Got cold feet with the straight line ... Went with my typical 7pt Sunday teaser ... Like points to be scored in this game, and I also like the 49ers to keep it close just because they are peaking with momentum after what they did to the Jets last week ... Anyway, I got cold feet, so I went with this ...
     
    Dolphins +1.5, over 34 ... Need both to hit
     
     to all
     
     
    giants869007
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 12:26 PM ET #50

    West Coast teams coming to the Eastern Time one are like oh for the season. The streak lives. Crash Davis says don't "f" with the streak....Fish -6
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    West Coast teams coming to the Eastern Time one are like oh for the season. The streak lives. Crash Davis says don't "f" with the streak....Fish -6
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