2 "mirror image" teams going head to head - which way to choose?
Both QB's are "run first", but I think the Panthers have the better passer......
Both "D"'s are stingy, but the Panthers are statistically better - especially against the run.....
49'ers played last week, continue on the road heading East.....
My only concern is, Carolina's not exactly the "media sexy" pick like the 49ers would be, but, if they somehow do make it all the way to the Superbowl, the media could really play up a Steve Smith/Possible Sappy Retirement angle à la Ray Lewis last year.
partly cloudy, high of 64, and light wind, so weather won't be a issue:
My book still has it at Panthers +1.5, so that's what I'm going with.....
Good Luck All!!!!
Quote Originally Posted by GekkoPie:
pound SF now this line wont last long
Yeah, because the line's going the other way!
2 "mirror image" teams going head to head - which way to choose?
Both QB's are "run first", but I think the Panthers have the better passer......
Both "D"'s are stingy, but the Panthers are statistically better - especially against the run.....
49'ers played last week, continue on the road heading East.....
My only concern is, Carolina's not exactly the "media sexy" pick like the 49ers would be, but, if they somehow do make it all the way to the Superbowl, the media could really play up a Steve Smith/Possible Sappy Retirement angle à la Ray Lewis last year.
partly cloudy, high of 64, and light wind, so weather won't be a issue:
- Their D has been a little more opportunistic and forcing turnovers compared to San Fran. Car better run d and pass d. Both of their pass D are about the same, not super great but are good due to their front seven bringing pressure.
-I think it comes down to which team turns over the ball more.. I think Newton has taken care of the ball better.. And Kap has been prone to throwing the INT at times if I remember??
- I also like the Panthers have 60 sacks in the reg season and 49ers have 38 sacks. And Car O-line has done a better job protecting
.Advantage - Panthers
But the 49ers will be alot better this time with Crabtree back and Vernon Davis didn't play last time. the 49ers will have more opportunities to exploit the Carolina secondary since they have more star players on the offensive side. That's only if Car can't get pressure on Kap
Just boils down to Veteran road tested been there before team versus a young, inexperienced, hungry, been down in the dumps for so long with a chip on their shoulder team. I'll take the more exciting team in Riverboat Ron & the Carolina Panthers. Should be a coinflip really but I hope the Panthers emerge victorious
I am prediciting/would like to see Panthers vs Broncos in the Super Bowl. John Fox vs his former team. Make it happen!!
It all comes down
Sip on that plus money honey!
Reasons to take Carolina
- I'm a big fan of their defense.
- Their D has been a little more opportunistic and forcing turnovers compared to San Fran. Car better run d and pass d. Both of their pass D are about the same, not super great but are good due to their front seven bringing pressure.
-I think it comes down to which team turns over the ball more.. I think Newton has taken care of the ball better.. And Kap has been prone to throwing the INT at times if I remember??
- I also like the Panthers have 60 sacks in the reg season and 49ers have 38 sacks. And Car O-line has done a better job protecting
.Advantage - Panthers
But the 49ers will be alot better this time with Crabtree back and Vernon Davis didn't play last time. the 49ers will have more opportunities to exploit the Carolina secondary since they have more star players on the offensive side. That's only if Car can't get pressure on Kap
Just boils down to Veteran road tested been there before team versus a young, inexperienced, hungry, been down in the dumps for so long with a chip on their shoulder team. I'll take the more exciting team in Riverboat Ron & the Carolina Panthers. Should be a coinflip really but I hope the Panthers emerge victorious
I am prediciting/would like to see Panthers vs Broncos in the Super Bowl. John Fox vs his former team. Make it happen!!
West Coast people are betting SF thus keeping the line at +2 at some casinos. Quad has a good point about SF playing last week now traveling back East. Still teasing Carolina but total is up in the air.
West Coast people are betting SF thus keeping the line at +2 at some casinos. Quad has a good point about SF playing last week now traveling back East. Still teasing Carolina but total is up in the air.
I see this game decided by a field goal either way. Very similar to sf @ gb & no @ phi. I took the points with Carolina for my covers pick. I don't feel comfortable taking either side without teasing it with another pick.
My play = Carolina +9 with patriots -.5 (+7 teaser)
I see this game decided by a field goal either way. Very similar to sf @ gb & no @ phi. I took the points with Carolina for my covers pick. I don't feel comfortable taking either side without teasing it with another pick.
My play = Carolina +9 with patriots -.5 (+7 teaser)
I see this game decided by a field goal either way. Very similar to sf @ gb & no @ phi. I took the points with Carolina for my covers pick. I don't feel comfortable taking either side without teasing it with another pick.
My play = Carolina +9 with patriots -.5 (+7 teaser)
I was thinking the same thought with the Pats. What do you think Quad ? Tease the home teams with the two week prep ? Except for Denver vs SD which could be a shootout. Yet Seattle with the better D could stifle Brees again. Need your help Quad.
Quote Originally Posted by mybestbetdotcom:
I see this game decided by a field goal either way. Very similar to sf @ gb & no @ phi. I took the points with Carolina for my covers pick. I don't feel comfortable taking either side without teasing it with another pick.
My play = Carolina +9 with patriots -.5 (+7 teaser)
I was thinking the same thought with the Pats. What do you think Quad ? Tease the home teams with the two week prep ? Except for Denver vs SD which could be a shootout. Yet Seattle with the better D could stifle Brees again. Need your help Quad.
I would also feel comfortable teasing down the Seahawks and pairing that up with Carolina or the patriots. As for the Denver game. I wouldn't be surprised to see a push at -10 Denver. Or just in case it's closer, tease San Diego. So how about this?
Carolina + New England (+7 teased)
Seattle + San Diego (+7 teased)
UHQB,
I would also feel comfortable teasing down the Seahawks and pairing that up with Carolina or the patriots. As for the Denver game. I wouldn't be surprised to see a push at -10 Denver. Or just in case it's closer, tease San Diego. So how about this?
THE LINE IS DOWN TO A PICK'UM HERE IN VEGAS!!! I CAN'T FIND OUT WHY? ANY INPUT ON THE LINE MOVE?
quite simple. Sharp money is on the Panthers while the public are on the 49ers. somebody or somebodies put down a big enough wager on Carolina to influence the line move.
Sip on that plus money honey!
Quote Originally Posted by 6-DEGREES-SEP:
THE LINE IS DOWN TO A PICK'UM HERE IN VEGAS!!! I CAN'T FIND OUT WHY? ANY INPUT ON THE LINE MOVE?
quite simple. Sharp money is on the Panthers while the public are on the 49ers. somebody or somebodies put down a big enough wager on Carolina to influence the line move.
I think Best Bets has some horse sense and I'm on board.
Last week the 49ers did what many had predicted. They were built to win a physical game vs a "finesse" Packer squad. Colin Kaepernick carried his team to victory, breaking contain several times for a 100 yards rushing. But more importantly, he played mistake-free football and delivered the goods on 3rd down, making several clutch plays with his legs and his arm (although you won't see his near pick-6 in the box score). Many media experts predicted it would happen and kudos to them. I stayed away.
While the 49ers played a very physical game in a subzero vortex, the Carolina Panthers watched and enjoyed a week off after winning the NFC South for the first time in a long time. In a way, they remind of the 49ers from last year. They have a ferocious front-7 and they have an offense that is starting to find their identity. Much of the focus on defense has been on Luke Kuechly (rightfully so), but Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson have been the unsung heroes of this team. The two defensive ends have combined for 26 sacks. Not to forget about rookie nose tackle Star Lotulelei, whose emergence has clearly helped Kuechly enjoy a breakout season.
The Panthers were built to match up well against this run heavy physical 49er squad. In their previous match-up at Candlestick, they sacked Kaep six times and held him to 15 yards rushing!! Now they get the 49ers on their home field, coming off a physical subzero vortex game, and they've had an extra week of rest and preparation. I have the strangest feeling that the home field and the extra week of rest will help lead to some type of special teams or defensive TD. Sorry 49er fans, but I think you're going to need a much better pep talk than the one from Ric Flair to win thin one.
I think the cards are stacked for Carolina, and I'm going with Ron, "the Riverboat Gambler",Rivera to win Carolina's first playoff game in 9 years.
Good Luck
Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:
Won't need no stinking points. Carolina SU
I think Best Bets has some horse sense and I'm on board.
Last week the 49ers did what many had predicted. They were built to win a physical game vs a "finesse" Packer squad. Colin Kaepernick carried his team to victory, breaking contain several times for a 100 yards rushing. But more importantly, he played mistake-free football and delivered the goods on 3rd down, making several clutch plays with his legs and his arm (although you won't see his near pick-6 in the box score). Many media experts predicted it would happen and kudos to them. I stayed away.
While the 49ers played a very physical game in a subzero vortex, the Carolina Panthers watched and enjoyed a week off after winning the NFC South for the first time in a long time. In a way, they remind of the 49ers from last year. They have a ferocious front-7 and they have an offense that is starting to find their identity. Much of the focus on defense has been on Luke Kuechly (rightfully so), but Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson have been the unsung heroes of this team. The two defensive ends have combined for 26 sacks. Not to forget about rookie nose tackle Star Lotulelei, whose emergence has clearly helped Kuechly enjoy a breakout season.
The Panthers were built to match up well against this run heavy physical 49er squad. In their previous match-up at Candlestick, they sacked Kaep six times and held him to 15 yards rushing!! Now they get the 49ers on their home field, coming off a physical subzero vortex game, and they've had an extra week of rest and preparation. I have the strangest feeling that the home field and the extra week of rest will help lead to some type of special teams or defensive TD. Sorry 49er fans, but I think you're going to need a much better pep talk than the one from Ric Flair to win thin one.
I think the cards are stacked for Carolina, and I'm going with Ron, "the Riverboat Gambler",Rivera to win Carolina's first playoff game in 9 years.
Been debating on the side for this one but since I'm from the bay area, I might be a little bias when siding with 9ers. Here's what I see that is different on this match up vs the previous one. 9ers' offense is more dynamic now. Vernon Davis played last game but was knocked out early. Crabtree wasn't playing. Aldon Smith was playing his first game coming back from rehab. Maybe that's why Panther's O-line was fierce-less in the previous game.
As for Carolina, I have to admit.. I like how their O-line protect C. Newton. They are definitely better at home on both sides than when they are travelling.
Kaep has improved a lot in the last 5 games and his rating is way better than Cam. Maybe that's because Niners were banged up before that?? Crabtree helped with the rating also?? Overall.. these 2 teams are almost identical. I almost say it's tough to beat 9ers twice in a season but it happened before with Giants and Ravens. I would not put $$ on which side but I can see this game go as low as 19 again.
UNDER - Large
Been debating on the side for this one but since I'm from the bay area, I might be a little bias when siding with 9ers. Here's what I see that is different on this match up vs the previous one. 9ers' offense is more dynamic now. Vernon Davis played last game but was knocked out early. Crabtree wasn't playing. Aldon Smith was playing his first game coming back from rehab. Maybe that's why Panther's O-line was fierce-less in the previous game.
As for Carolina, I have to admit.. I like how their O-line protect C. Newton. They are definitely better at home on both sides than when they are travelling.
Kaep has improved a lot in the last 5 games and his rating is way better than Cam. Maybe that's because Niners were banged up before that?? Crabtree helped with the rating also?? Overall.. these 2 teams are almost identical. I almost say it's tough to beat 9ers twice in a season but it happened before with Giants and Ravens. I would not put $$ on which side but I can see this game go as low as 19 again.
under seems like the best chance to win some $ on this game but at 42..it just might barely go over. the line seems about right. there were 3 CAR home games around the 44 range and those teams can pass. another game went to 50 that was against Jets which doesn't count since they turnover ball alot.
if SF decides to adopt the passing attack since they got their weapons back now i could see CAR following suit and this game will get close to the 50 range..but most likely with two good defenses i'm inclined to take the Under as well.. I'm imagining the total to be around 33 to 40 pts.
both teams score a TD with a bunch of FG's in between and the winning team scoring 1 more TD.
20-16 Carolina. Under it is. *thumb up*
Sip on that plus money honey!
under seems like the best chance to win some $ on this game but at 42..it just might barely go over. the line seems about right. there were 3 CAR home games around the 44 range and those teams can pass. another game went to 50 that was against Jets which doesn't count since they turnover ball alot.
if SF decides to adopt the passing attack since they got their weapons back now i could see CAR following suit and this game will get close to the 50 range..but most likely with two good defenses i'm inclined to take the Under as well.. I'm imagining the total to be around 33 to 40 pts.
both teams score a TD with a bunch of FG's in between and the winning team scoring 1 more TD.
The media and Colin Cowherd are selling the 49ers so badly to the public its pathetic, and its working, everyone loves the niners in this game. I'm leaning Panthers within a TD, Panthers 26, 49ers 21. I'm sure motivation goes to the panthers as well after hearing how the niners are the team to beat all week long. GL
The media and Colin Cowherd are selling the 49ers so badly to the public its pathetic, and its working, everyone loves the niners in this game. I'm leaning Panthers within a TD, Panthers 26, 49ers 21. I'm sure motivation goes to the panthers as well after hearing how the niners are the team to beat all week long. GL
In my personal opinion, i feel that san fran playing last week has an advantage over carolina who hasnt played in a few weeks. I want carolina to win soo bad and go to superbowl. So being that said im gonna throw something light on SF to make it a win-win situation.
In my personal opinion, i feel that san fran playing last week has an advantage over carolina who hasnt played in a few weeks. I want carolina to win soo bad and go to superbowl. So being that said im gonna throw something light on SF to make it a win-win situation.
I was at that game where Carolina's defense shut Kap down for 91 yards passing and 16 yds rushing. With no Baldwin & Manningham, QB Kap will have to rely on his running ability like last game. Crabtree will get double teamed which leaves the short routes open. But you know Kap, he'd rather tuck it and run instead of looking down field for the open man. Last game saw 3 fumbles by Carolina and 3 FG's by SF. And it was a beautiful bright sunny day ! That's why the total is set at 42. It could come down to a FG at the end for a 20-17 win for ...............well, I'm a 49ers fan but I took the points last time they played. This game is better teased at Carolina +8 & the under 48.
niner fan betting carolina? why not pound sf straight up dont be scared carolinas offense is garbage.
Quote Originally Posted by UHQB:
I was at that game where Carolina's defense shut Kap down for 91 yards passing and 16 yds rushing. With no Baldwin & Manningham, QB Kap will have to rely on his running ability like last game. Crabtree will get double teamed which leaves the short routes open. But you know Kap, he'd rather tuck it and run instead of looking down field for the open man. Last game saw 3 fumbles by Carolina and 3 FG's by SF. And it was a beautiful bright sunny day ! That's why the total is set at 42. It could come down to a FG at the end for a 20-17 win for ...............well, I'm a 49ers fan but I took the points last time they played. This game is better teased at Carolina +8 & the under 48.
niner fan betting carolina? why not pound sf straight up dont be scared carolinas offense is garbage.
Carolina's weakass secondary will get exposed. Yes they have a solid frnt 7 but Crabtree, Boldin, and Davis will be a factor. I don't care what anybody says. The only guy I'm really worried about is Steve Smith -And that's if he is 100%- other than that who else they got LaFell ? T.Ginn ? Lol
49ERS OVR 43
Carolina's weakass secondary will get exposed. Yes they have a solid frnt 7 but Crabtree, Boldin, and Davis will be a factor. I don't care what anybody says. The only guy I'm really worried about is Steve Smith -And that's if he is 100%- other than that who else they got LaFell ? T.Ginn ? Lol
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LaFell ? T.Ginn ? Lol
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