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    Pittsburgh at Tampa Bay (09/26/2010)

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 1:55 AM ET #1

    Away:  Pittsburgh [2-0 ATS]
    Home:  Tampa Bay [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Raymond James Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Pittsburgh:
    Passing: Dennis Dixon (254)
    Rushing: Rashard Mendenhall (189)
    Receiving: Hines Ward (117)

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (360)
    Rushing: Cadillac Williams (126)
    Receiving: Kellen Winslow (115)

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    Away:  Pittsburgh [2-0 ATS]
    Home:  Tampa Bay [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Raymond James Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Pittsburgh:
    Passing: Dennis Dixon (254)
    Rushing: Rashard Mendenhall (189)
    Receiving: Hines Ward (117)

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (360)
    Rushing: Cadillac Williams (126)
    Receiving: Kellen Winslow (115)

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 10:54 AM ET #2

    SEE PITT RUN all day long........

    and the beat goes on.

    PITT by DD

     

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    SEE PITT RUN all day long........

    and the beat goes on.

    PITT by DD

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 12:58 PM ET #3

    The Steelers were aweful on offense last week at Tenn but pulled out a 19-11 win on the road due to the benifit of 7 Tennesee turnovers and are a surprise at 2-0 as are the TB Bucs.

    Pitt is a +6 in TO's and TB is a +4 in TO's. I'm not gonna get very deep into stats here since I believe this will be another ugly game for both teams. I like getting the points here for the home team vs a team with a 3rd stringer QB that has produced very little offensive output on the scoreboard. The Steelers have 7 FG's, 1 TD (OT) and 1 kickoff return TD which accounts for all their scoring so far this season. Tampa Bay has 4 offensive TD's and 3 fg's on their end. It will be a slow grinding game but I feel that TB should prevail in this contest and at least get a cover.

    Pick = TB+2.5 pts.

    My Guesstimate = Tampa Bay-17 Pittsburgh-16

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    The Steelers were aweful on offense last week at Tenn but pulled out a 19-11 win on the road due to the benifit of 7 Tennesee turnovers and are a surprise at 2-0 as are the TB Bucs.

    Pitt is a +6 in TO's and TB is a +4 in TO's. I'm not gonna get very deep into stats here since I believe this will be another ugly game for both teams. I like getting the points here for the home team vs a team with a 3rd stringer QB that has produced very little offensive output on the scoreboard. The Steelers have 7 FG's, 1 TD (OT) and 1 kickoff return TD which accounts for all their scoring so far this season. Tampa Bay has 4 offensive TD's and 3 fg's on their end. It will be a slow grinding game but I feel that TB should prevail in this contest and at least get a cover.

    Pick = TB+2.5 pts.

    My Guesstimate = Tampa Bay-17 Pittsburgh-16

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:09 PM ET #4

    Pittsburgh D is too good. Pittsburgh and Under. 
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    Pittsburgh D is too good. Pittsburgh and Under. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 7:06 PM ET #5

    I'll ride the Steelers until the wheel comes off 
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    I'll ride the Steelers until the wheel comes off 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2010 - 12:07 AM ET #6

    The best D in pro ball will find a way.
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    The best D in pro ball will find a way.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2010 - 7:05 AM ET #7

    Josh Freeman is the real deal, he takes care of the ball, makes wise decisions, and is always calm under pressure. Pitt has been winning games because other teams have turned the ball over. If Tampa doesn't turn the ball over, which Freeman rarely does, the Bucs will have a shot. Tampa just crushed the Panthers on the road, they will only improve at home. They will be dangerous

    Tampa ML

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    Josh Freeman is the real deal, he takes care of the ball, makes wise decisions, and is always calm under pressure. Pitt has been winning games because other teams have turned the ball over. If Tampa doesn't turn the ball over, which Freeman rarely does, the Bucs will have a shot. Tampa just crushed the Panthers on the road, they will only improve at home. They will be dangerous

    Tampa ML

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2010 - 9:40 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    I'll ride the Steelers until the wheel comes off 

    Can't dispute the fact that they are 2-0 SU and ATS as underestimated dogs... but get your AAA card ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    I'll ride the Steelers until the wheel comes off 

    Can't dispute the fact that they are 2-0 SU and ATS as underestimated dogs... but get your AAA card ready.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2010 - 9:15 PM ET #9

    steelers defense too much for freeman.he did ok against bullcrap tms but polamalu will get another pick.steelers beat real tms.Falcons and titans.steelers win close game 14-10
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    steelers defense too much for freeman.he did ok against bullcrap tms but polamalu will get another pick.steelers beat real tms.Falcons and titans.steelers win close game 14-10
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 5:16 AM ET #10

    TB +3: Neither offense is inspiring and the better bet may be the UNDER. I'll take the points with the home dog vs. the 3rd or the stringer QB. The Buccs seem to have more to play for than the steelers since their wins over Cleveland and Carolina aren't exactly something to be proud of.  A win over Pittsburgh will be a statement game.
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    TB +3: Neither offense is inspiring and the better bet may be the UNDER. I'll take the points with the home dog vs. the 3rd or the stringer QB. The Buccs seem to have more to play for than the steelers since their wins over Cleveland and Carolina aren't exactly something to be proud of.  A win over Pittsburgh will be a statement game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 8:17 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by bettin-fool:

    steelers defense too much for freeman.he did ok against bullcrap tms but polamalu will get another pick.steelers beat real tms.Falcons and titans.steelers win close game 14-10

    I can't argue with those tits  but I disagree with your pick.

    (Just my way to compliment your Avi)

    person Luck all the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettin-fool:

    steelers defense too much for freeman.he did ok against bullcrap tms but polamalu will get another pick.steelers beat real tms.Falcons and titans.steelers win close game 14-10

    I can't argue with those tits  but I disagree with your pick.

    (Just my way to compliment your Avi)

    person Luck all the same

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 9:55 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by AJK:

    Josh Freeman is the real deal, he takes care of the ball, makes wise decisions, and is always calm under pressure. Pitt has been winning games because other teams have turned the ball over. If Tampa doesn't turn the ball over, which Freeman rarely does, the Bucs will have a shot. Tampa just crushed the Panthers on the road, they will only improve at home. They will be dangerous

    Tampa ML

    ? ?Freeman had 18 ints last year and fumbled 4 times. He already has an int this year. In the 12 games Freeman has played in his career he has turned the ball over 20 times. Freeman rarely turns the ball over????? Actually he turns it over a lot.  Pitt's defense wins this game.TB won't get 10 points in this game.

    Pitt wins 17-6

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJK:

    Josh Freeman is the real deal, he takes care of the ball, makes wise decisions, and is always calm under pressure. Pitt has been winning games because other teams have turned the ball over. If Tampa doesn't turn the ball over, which Freeman rarely does, the Bucs will have a shot. Tampa just crushed the Panthers on the road, they will only improve at home. They will be dangerous

    Tampa ML

    ? ?Freeman had 18 ints last year and fumbled 4 times. He already has an int this year. In the 12 games Freeman has played in his career he has turned the ball over 20 times. Freeman rarely turns the ball over????? Actually he turns it over a lot.  Pitt's defense wins this game.TB won't get 10 points in this game.

    Pitt wins 17-6

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 10:45 AM ET #13

    to much defense for the bucs to overcome, look what pitt did vs a atlanta team that can score, had chris johnson stuck in reverse all game last week
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    to much defense for the bucs to overcome, look what pitt did vs a atlanta team that can score, had chris johnson stuck in reverse all game last week
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 7:16 PM ET #14

     Big Ben's bk this week rt?!
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     Big Ben's bk this week rt?!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 7:17 PM ET #15

    I thought the Comish' dropped it to 2 weeks from 4!
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    I thought the Comish' dropped it to 2 weeks from 4!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 8:46 PM ET #16

    Tampa, BIG
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    Tampa, BIG
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 10:23 PM ET #17

    UNDER 33.5 (2units): Pittsburgh has yet to score a TD from scrimmage in regulation time. Their defense is ferocious especially with a health Palamalu. They shut down to very good RBs in Turner and Johnson. Tampa Bay’s QB Josh Freeman has played two mediocre teams in Cleveland and Carolina. The Bucs “D”  has yielded just 10.5 PPG. Both teams are having trouble finding the end zone. UNDER is 4-0 their L4 meetings 4-1 in the Steelers L5 games played in September, and 9-0 in the Bucs L9 overall.
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    UNDER 33.5 (2units): Pittsburgh has yet to score a TD from scrimmage in regulation time. Their defense is ferocious especially with a health Palamalu. They shut down to very good RBs in Turner and Johnson. Tampa Bay’s QB Josh Freeman has played two mediocre teams in Cleveland and Carolina. The Bucs “D”  has yielded just 10.5 PPG. Both teams are having trouble finding the end zone. UNDER is 4-0 their L4 meetings 4-1 in the Steelers L5 games played in September, and 9-0 in the Bucs L9 overall.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 11:46 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

    The Steelers were aweful on offense last week at Tenn but pulled out a 19-11 win on the road due to the benifit of 7 Tennesee turnovers and are a surprise at 2-0 as are the TB Bucs.

    Pitt is a +6 in TO's and TB is a +4 in TO's. I'm not gonna get very deep into stats here since I believe this will be another ugly game for both teams. I like getting the points here for the home team vs a team with a 3rd stringer QB that has produced very little offensive output on the scoreboard. The Steelers have 7 FG's, 1 TD (OT) and 1 kickoff return TD which accounts for all their scoring so far this season. Tampa Bay has 4 offensive TD's and 3 fg's on their end. It will be a slow grinding game but I feel that TB should prevail in this contest and at least get a cover.

    Pick = TB+2.5 pts.

    My Guesstimate = Tampa Bay-17 Pittsburgh-16



    you nailed it for me.  The turnover battle.  I know josh freeman turned the ball over plenty in his rookie year, but you can't judge a QB like that because of the importance of second year of development.  He has come out and done his thing without many mistakes.  While you might think that this being the toughest defense he's face is a factor changer, I think that him doing on the road in division against a john fox defense in carolina was impressive enough to let me think that a little home field magic (stronger rookie/special team play) and the steelers now having a 3rd stringer rather than a legit 2nd stringer with good improv skills will make the difference.  After the last two weeks, the steelers defense has made up for the lack of an all around complete team. For what it's worth, I cashed on the steelers 1st two games and realize that the line is undercorrected here for a reason.

    TB +3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

    The Steelers were aweful on offense last week at Tenn but pulled out a 19-11 win on the road due to the benifit of 7 Tennesee turnovers and are a surprise at 2-0 as are the TB Bucs.

    Pitt is a +6 in TO's and TB is a +4 in TO's. I'm not gonna get very deep into stats here since I believe this will be another ugly game for both teams. I like getting the points here for the home team vs a team with a 3rd stringer QB that has produced very little offensive output on the scoreboard. The Steelers have 7 FG's, 1 TD (OT) and 1 kickoff return TD which accounts for all their scoring so far this season. Tampa Bay has 4 offensive TD's and 3 fg's on their end. It will be a slow grinding game but I feel that TB should prevail in this contest and at least get a cover.

    Pick = TB+2.5 pts.

    My Guesstimate = Tampa Bay-17 Pittsburgh-16



    you nailed it for me.  The turnover battle.  I know josh freeman turned the ball over plenty in his rookie year, but you can't judge a QB like that because of the importance of second year of development.  He has come out and done his thing without many mistakes.  While you might think that this being the toughest defense he's face is a factor changer, I think that him doing on the road in division against a john fox defense in carolina was impressive enough to let me think that a little home field magic (stronger rookie/special team play) and the steelers now having a 3rd stringer rather than a legit 2nd stringer with good improv skills will make the difference.  After the last two weeks, the steelers defense has made up for the lack of an all around complete team. For what it's worth, I cashed on the steelers 1st two games and realize that the line is undercorrected here for a reason.

    TB +3
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 2:19 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Whalewatcher:

    I thought the Comish' dropped it to 2 weeks from 4!


    Nope.  He cut it to 4 from I believe 6.  Ben back in two weeks since Pitt has the bye next week. 

    As far as the gambling aspect goes on this one I don't think they can get the total low enough on it.  Under all day. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whalewatcher:

    I thought the Comish' dropped it to 2 weeks from 4!


    Nope.  He cut it to 4 from I believe 6.  Ben back in two weeks since Pitt has the bye next week. 

    As far as the gambling aspect goes on this one I don't think they can get the total low enough on it.  Under all day. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 6:33 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Cornholio711:

    ? ?Freeman had 18 ints last year and fumbled 4 times. He already has an int this year. In the 12 games Freeman has played in his career he has turned the ball over 20 times. Freeman rarely turns the ball over????? Actually he turns it over a lot.  Pitt's defense wins this game.TB won't get 10 points in this game.

    Pitt wins 17-6

    you can't go off of stats from a rookie on a young team with a new coaching system.  especially when he hardly has any weapons to throw to.  i guess you overlooked the game where Freeman, in his freshman year, managed to beat the defending champion Saints IN New Orleans. 

    not sure who can win this game but i do like the under and if i had to roll the dice, then im gonna side with Josh Freeman ( who is the real deal ) and bet against Charlie Batch o' Cookies that is sure to crumble against this TB defense.  i'll give the Pittsburgh defense credit for winning in Tennesee, but I watched that game THOROUGHLY, and know that 3 of those takeaways were simply giveaways.  Vince Young's play was the worst i've seen from anyone in awhile.  Dude was throwing lollipops in areas where all you could see was black jerseys. 

    bet the under / small play on TB ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornholio711:

    ? ?Freeman had 18 ints last year and fumbled 4 times. He already has an int this year. In the 12 games Freeman has played in his career he has turned the ball over 20 times. Freeman rarely turns the ball over????? Actually he turns it over a lot.  Pitt's defense wins this game.TB won't get 10 points in this game.

    Pitt wins 17-6

    you can't go off of stats from a rookie on a young team with a new coaching system.  especially when he hardly has any weapons to throw to.  i guess you overlooked the game where Freeman, in his freshman year, managed to beat the defending champion Saints IN New Orleans. 

    not sure who can win this game but i do like the under and if i had to roll the dice, then im gonna side with Josh Freeman ( who is the real deal ) and bet against Charlie Batch o' Cookies that is sure to crumble against this TB defense.  i'll give the Pittsburgh defense credit for winning in Tennesee, but I watched that game THOROUGHLY, and know that 3 of those takeaways were simply giveaways.  Vince Young's play was the worst i've seen from anyone in awhile.  Dude was throwing lollipops in areas where all you could see was black jerseys. 

    bet the under / small play on TB ML

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 4:03 AM ET #21

    yo im changing my pick to the bucs. charlie batch will suck
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    yo im changing my pick to the bucs. charlie batch will suck
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 2:20 PM ET #22

    they won the first two with scrap qb....why the fuck will they not steam roll the bucs....
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    they won the first two with scrap qb....why the fuck will they not steam roll the bucs....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 4:56 PM ET #23

    Pittsburgh - 24                           Tampa Bay - 21

    Steelers -2.5                           over 33.5

    Clash between two undefeated teams has me liking the Steelers in sits' like this. Coming off a SU dog win over the Titans (on the road) has this team feeling very confident no matter who is QBing. Throw in the fact that the Black and Gold are 3-0 last 3 ATS vs the Bucs

    Steelers -- OVER

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    Pittsburgh - 24                           Tampa Bay - 21

    Steelers -2.5                           over 33.5

    Clash between two undefeated teams has me liking the Steelers in sits' like this. Coming off a SU dog win over the Titans (on the road) has this team feeling very confident no matter who is QBing. Throw in the fact that the Black and Gold are 3-0 last 3 ATS vs the Bucs

    Steelers -- OVER

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 6:14 PM ET #24

    Down a lot of units, anyone got a 3 or 5 team lock parlay they could share? 
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    Down a lot of units, anyone got a 3 or 5 team lock parlay they could share? 
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 10:32 PM ET #25

    Pitt is the play for me here....d is nasty batch has come thru for pitt in the past and should be able to manage the game

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    Pitt is the play for me here....d is nasty batch has come thru for pitt in the past and should be able to manage the game

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