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    Oakland at Miami (11/16/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 9:50 AM ET #1

    Away:  Oakland [3-6 ATS]
    Home:  Miami [5-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Dolphins Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (1289)
    Rushing: Justin Fargas (385)
    Receiving: Zach Miller (363)

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Pennington (2200)
    Rushing: Ronnie Brown (504)
    Receiving: Greg Camarillo (504)

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    Away:  Oakland [3-6 ATS]
    Home:  Miami [5-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Dolphins Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (1289)
    Rushing: Justin Fargas (385)
    Receiving: Zach Miller (363)

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Pennington (2200)
    Rushing: Ronnie Brown (504)
    Receiving: Greg Camarillo (504)

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    Bringiton_01
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 4:14 PM ET #2

     Raiders last three opponents have been good teams, the same can't be said for Miami. Raiders D has been keeping things close and I think it can take the 10.5 to the bank against the lethargic Fins.

    Raiders +10.5

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     Raiders last three opponents have been good teams, the same can't be said for Miami. Raiders D has been keeping things close and I think it can take the 10.5 to the bank against the lethargic Fins.

    Raiders +10.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 12:33 AM ET #3

    Don't know about my Dolphins against these losing teams. Is it because we have been on the losing end for so many seasons that we feel sorry for the weaker opponents
     
    We suck at special teams. I think we are last in the leauge on kick & punt coverage allowing over 30yds per game. The Dolphins have been working on it and will work on it this entire week. The Dolphins just cut one of our players to make room for another ST player. Our kicker Carpenter cannot kick the ball into the endzone for some reason and with our terrible ST coverage the Dolphins have been letting their oponents start in great field position every game.
     
    Not sure if Russell will be playing in this one, but Walter may be an upgrade until Jemarcus gets his act together. D-Mac not at 100% since the injury and may be out as well but Bush was a beast when he played for Louisville so the Raiders running game may lack the burst that D-Mac has but still stable with Bush in the backfield.
     
    If you like the Raiders to cover you may be in luck with this one as for some reason my Dolphins seem to keep the easy ones close or give them away. It's the tougher games that you need to be careful of when going against my Dolphins as dogs.
     
    With all that said of course no wager for me but...
     
    GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Don't know about my Dolphins against these losing teams. Is it because we have been on the losing end for so many seasons that we feel sorry for the weaker opponents
     
    We suck at special teams. I think we are last in the leauge on kick & punt coverage allowing over 30yds per game. The Dolphins have been working on it and will work on it this entire week. The Dolphins just cut one of our players to make room for another ST player. Our kicker Carpenter cannot kick the ball into the endzone for some reason and with our terrible ST coverage the Dolphins have been letting their oponents start in great field position every game.
     
    Not sure if Russell will be playing in this one, but Walter may be an upgrade until Jemarcus gets his act together. D-Mac not at 100% since the injury and may be out as well but Bush was a beast when he played for Louisville so the Raiders running game may lack the burst that D-Mac has but still stable with Bush in the backfield.
     
    If you like the Raiders to cover you may be in luck with this one as for some reason my Dolphins seem to keep the easy ones close or give them away. It's the tougher games that you need to be careful of when going against my Dolphins as dogs.
     
    With all that said of course no wager for me but...
     
    GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    lookingtowin
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2008 - 7:40 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    Don't know about my Dolphins against these losing teams. Is it because we have been on the losing end for so many seasons that we feel sorry for the weaker opponents
     
    We suck at special teams. I think we are last in the leauge on kick & punt coverage allowing over 30yds per game. The Dolphins have been working on it and will work on it this entire week. The Dolphins just cut one of our players to make room for another ST player. Our kicker Carpenter cannot kick the ball into the endzone for some reason and with our terrible ST coverage the Dolphins have been letting their oponents start in great field position every game.
     
    Not sure if Russell will be playing in this one, but Walter may be an upgrade until Jemarcus gets his act together. D-Mac not at 100% since the injury and may be out as well but Bush was a beast when he played for Louisville so the Raiders running game may lack the burst that D-Mac has but still stable with Bush in the backfield.
     
    If you like the Raiders to cover you may be in luck with this one as for some reason my Dolphins seem to keep the easy ones close or give them away. It's the tougher games that you need to be careful of when going against my Dolphins as dogs.
     
    With all that said of course no wager for me but...
     
    GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm not sure have to look at this game a little further but i have to admit i'm starting to believe in your Fins.  Early lean would be for a Fin cover i think the Raiders shot their wad defensively last week.  The only thing that bothers me as in the Cards-49ers is the large number i wish it was 7.5 not 10.5.  However i think like you said the Cards played down to the 49ers and did not come out fired up for a MNF game.  This game is going to take a longer look for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    Don't know about my Dolphins against these losing teams. Is it because we have been on the losing end for so many seasons that we feel sorry for the weaker opponents
     
    We suck at special teams. I think we are last in the leauge on kick & punt coverage allowing over 30yds per game. The Dolphins have been working on it and will work on it this entire week. The Dolphins just cut one of our players to make room for another ST player. Our kicker Carpenter cannot kick the ball into the endzone for some reason and with our terrible ST coverage the Dolphins have been letting their oponents start in great field position every game.
     
    Not sure if Russell will be playing in this one, but Walter may be an upgrade until Jemarcus gets his act together. D-Mac not at 100% since the injury and may be out as well but Bush was a beast when he played for Louisville so the Raiders running game may lack the burst that D-Mac has but still stable with Bush in the backfield.
     
    If you like the Raiders to cover you may be in luck with this one as for some reason my Dolphins seem to keep the easy ones close or give them away. It's the tougher games that you need to be careful of when going against my Dolphins as dogs.
     
    With all that said of course no wager for me but...
     
    GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm not sure have to look at this game a little further but i have to admit i'm starting to believe in your Fins.  Early lean would be for a Fin cover i think the Raiders shot their wad defensively last week.  The only thing that bothers me as in the Cards-49ers is the large number i wish it was 7.5 not 10.5.  However i think like you said the Cards played down to the 49ers and did not come out fired up for a MNF game.  This game is going to take a longer look for me.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2008 - 6:28 PM ET #5

    The Raiders get 4 interceptions from Del-homer and they still lose! 
     
    The Dolphins played down to the sea-chickens last week.
     
    I don't know about the 10 yet but I think the Fins win.  They've still got a lot to play for.  Might have to "T" this one
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    The Raiders get 4 interceptions from Del-homer and they still lose! 
     
    The Dolphins played down to the sea-chickens last week.
     
    I don't know about the 10 yet but I think the Fins win.  They've still got a lot to play for.  Might have to "T" this one
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2008 - 6:05 AM ET #6

    Miami was favored by 8 last week against a sorry Seahawks team and despite dominating the game for the most part, failed to cover the spread, disappointing the hordes of favorite bettors...
     
    this week, they face the Raiders, another sorry team, in the same West to East coast morning spot... and despite failing to cover, the earliest lines on this game opened at Miami (-13)...
     
    look for Miami to blow the doors off the Raiders this week...
     
     
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    Miami was favored by 8 last week against a sorry Seahawks team and despite dominating the game for the most part, failed to cover the spread, disappointing the hordes of favorite bettors...
     
    this week, they face the Raiders, another sorry team, in the same West to East coast morning spot... and despite failing to cover, the earliest lines on this game opened at Miami (-13)...
     
    look for Miami to blow the doors off the Raiders this week...
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2008 - 11:32 AM ET #7

    I'm not sure if I would feel comfortable with the Dolphins -10 on anyone.  Especially with the wildcat offense. I'm sure Miami will win, but remember....-10 is alot of points for anyone.     This game is screaming trap to me. 
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    I'm not sure if I would feel comfortable with the Dolphins -10 on anyone.  Especially with the wildcat offense. I'm sure Miami will win, but remember....-10 is alot of points for anyone.     This game is screaming trap to me. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2008 - 7:01 PM ET #8

    Double digit favorites have not been covering much this season (giants vs. s.f. only one that comes to mind). 
     
     
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    Double digit favorites have not been covering much this season (giants vs. s.f. only one that comes to mind). 
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2008 - 7:05 PM ET #9

    ddd... you're right... it's a trap... but i already explained the trap...
     
    the trap is if you bet on Oakland... look at last week's line/results and this week's opening line...
     
    Miami wins this going away!
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    ddd... you're right... it's a trap... but i already explained the trap...
     
    the trap is if you bet on Oakland... look at last week's line/results and this week's opening line...
     
    Miami wins this going away!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2008 - 8:02 PM ET #10

    Miami - 24                Oakland - 14
    PUSH unless you got it at 10.5 then the Raiders is the play.
    Dolphins are 2 - 16 ATS as home favs of 7 or more off SU win in their last 18.  RAIDERS +10.5
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    Miami - 24                Oakland - 14
    PUSH unless you got it at 10.5 then the Raiders is the play.
    Dolphins are 2 - 16 ATS as home favs of 7 or more off SU win in their last 18.  RAIDERS +10.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 2:55 AM ET #11

     i'll take Oakland to cover but there is no fckin way they win the game
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     i'll take Oakland to cover but there is no fckin way they win the game
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 11:08 AM ET #12

                    DOLPHINS 23 RAIDERS 6
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                    DOLPHINS 23 RAIDERS 6
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 4:01 PM ET #13

    Like the fish to dominate this game. Slow and methodical they pull away from a Raider team in turmoil.... GL to all 
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    Like the fish to dominate this game. Slow and methodical they pull away from a Raider team in turmoil.... GL to all 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 4:58 PM ET #14

    I know I sound like a broken record about how Miami shouldnt be giving points to anyone but I actually like this spot for the Fins. I still think 10 is too much but it looks very close to that from my perspective... Fish or Big D, please talk me out of this...
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    I know I sound like a broken record about how Miami shouldnt be giving points to anyone but I actually like this spot for the Fins. I still think 10 is too much but it looks very close to that from my perspective... Fish or Big D, please talk me out of this...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 5:55 PM ET #15

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 10:26 PM ET #16

    RAIDERS KEEP IT CLOSE BUT LOSE AT THE END!!

    MY PICK IS THE RAIDERS +10

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    RAIDERS KEEP IT CLOSE BUT LOSE AT THE END!!

    MY PICK IS THE RAIDERS +10

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 10:56 PM ET #17

    i DON'T KNOW who will win but i will not waste my $ on oakland.
     
     
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    i DON'T KNOW who will win but i will not waste my $ on oakland.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2008 - 11:49 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkshrt:

    I know I sound like a broken record about how Miami shouldnt be giving points to anyone but I actually like this spot for the Fins. I still think 10 is too much but it looks very close to that from my perspective... Fish or Big D, please talk me out of this...


    Personally bro although I have a little bit more confidence in my fins 10 points is a lot. I'd feel more comfortable with the 1st half if anything.

    My Dolphins tend to go up early on their opponents then tend to have the opponents come back in the 3rd or 4th qtr. I feel that it is due to the coaching staff becoming too conservative once they have the lead and tend to bite themselves in the a$$.

    If I were to put a wager on my fins in this match up I would invest in the 1st half rather the final.

    Like I stated earlier my Dolphins tend to play to their opponents level so I would not look past the Raiders on this one.

    Good luck on what ever you decide to do my friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blkshrt:

    I know I sound like a broken record about how Miami shouldnt be giving points to anyone but I actually like this spot for the Fins. I still think 10 is too much but it looks very close to that from my perspective... Fish or Big D, please talk me out of this...


    Personally bro although I have a little bit more confidence in my fins 10 points is a lot. I'd feel more comfortable with the 1st half if anything.

    My Dolphins tend to go up early on their opponents then tend to have the opponents come back in the 3rd or 4th qtr. I feel that it is due to the coaching staff becoming too conservative once they have the lead and tend to bite themselves in the a$$.

    If I were to put a wager on my fins in this match up I would invest in the 1st half rather the final.

    Like I stated earlier my Dolphins tend to play to their opponents level so I would not look past the Raiders on this one.

    Good luck on what ever you decide to do my friend
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 12:04 AM ET #19

    West coast teams cant get it done playing at that 1:00 spot. I wouldnt count on these Raiders coming back in the second half BigDaddy. They are just awful
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    West coast teams cant get it done playing at that 1:00 spot. I wouldnt count on these Raiders coming back in the second half BigDaddy. They are just awful
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 12:37 AM ET #20

    praying for Al Davis to sell the franchise or at least his wardrobe...
     
     
     taking the dd dog
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    praying for Al Davis to sell the franchise or at least his wardrobe...
     
     
     taking the dd dog
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 1:13 AM ET #21

    Dolphins money line?
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    Dolphins money line?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 5:25 AM ET #22

    How about the under in this game?  I know 38.5 is low, but Oakland flat out cannot score.  Shut out by the Falcons, only put up six last week.  Miami isn't putting up more than twenty on a decent Oakland defense.  Final score probably something like 20-13 Miami.

    UNDER 38.5
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    How about the under in this game?  I know 38.5 is low, but Oakland flat out cannot score.  Shut out by the Falcons, only put up six last week.  Miami isn't putting up more than twenty on a decent Oakland defense.  Final score probably something like 20-13 Miami.

    UNDER 38.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 6:59 AM ET #23

    oakland looks like the worst team in the league right now

    miami -10 (3 units)
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    oakland looks like the worst team in the league right now

    miami -10 (3 units)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 10:04 AM ET #24

    MIA
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    MIA
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2008 - 10:10 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkshrt:

    I know I sound like a broken record about how Miami shouldnt be giving points to anyone but I actually like this spot for the Fins. I still think 10 is too much but it looks very close to that from my perspective... Fish or Big D, please talk me out of this...
    I can't add anything more than BigD....I'll be making a small play on our Fins at the half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blkshrt:

    I know I sound like a broken record about how Miami shouldnt be giving points to anyone but I actually like this spot for the Fins. I still think 10 is too much but it looks very close to that from my perspective... Fish or Big D, please talk me out of this...
    I can't add anything more than BigD....I'll be making a small play on our Fins at the half.
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