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    Oakland at Houston (10/04/2009)

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 1:06 AM ET #1

    Away:  Oakland [2-1 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [1-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (378)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (148)
    Receiving: Louis Murphy (138)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (823)
    Rushing: Steve Slaton (127)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (270)

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    Away:  Oakland [2-1 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [1-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (378)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (148)
    Receiving: Louis Murphy (138)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (823)
    Rushing: Steve Slaton (127)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (270)

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 3:51 AM ET #2

    This game i assure you is very diffcult to call. We saw what the jaguars did to the texan's run defense. I cannot say that oaklands defense did much better against a broncos team that i thought was rebuilding. I guess not after there 3-0 start. Anyway, back to this game for some reason the total is very low for me. I cannot see these two teams being in a close game. i like the texans with the points. Thats -9.5 with houston.
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    This game i assure you is very diffcult to call. We saw what the jaguars did to the texan's run defense. I cannot say that oaklands defense did much better against a broncos team that i thought was rebuilding. I guess not after there 3-0 start. Anyway, back to this game for some reason the total is very low for me. I cannot see these two teams being in a close game. i like the texans with the points. Thats -9.5 with houston.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 4:23 AM ET #3

    Oakland is the worst team in the league.  They can't move the ball and Russell is not an nfl quarterback--he threw for 1 yard in the 2nd half last week.  Oakland will struggle to score points even with Houston's porous run defense which I'm sure will be a focus at practice this week--hopefully with results.  Oakland cannot keep up with this team and I think Houston will play aggressively on offense throughout.  Remember, Houston will have revenge on their minds after losing at Oakland last year as 7 point favorites. 
     
    however I think all we need in this game is this simple fact..
     
    The writing's on the wall for Jamarcus Russell and it says, you suck.
     
    I'll be taking houston -9 and involing them in 2 team tease, other team to be determined.
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    Oakland is the worst team in the league.  They can't move the ball and Russell is not an nfl quarterback--he threw for 1 yard in the 2nd half last week.  Oakland will struggle to score points even with Houston's porous run defense which I'm sure will be a focus at practice this week--hopefully with results.  Oakland cannot keep up with this team and I think Houston will play aggressively on offense throughout.  Remember, Houston will have revenge on their minds after losing at Oakland last year as 7 point favorites. 
     
    however I think all we need in this game is this simple fact..
     
    The writing's on the wall for Jamarcus Russell and it says, you suck.
     
    I'll be taking houston -9 and involing them in 2 team tease, other team to be determined.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 5:50 PM ET #4

    fade_this you are very wrong 9.5 is too many points for the texans to cover on oakland. with that being said i'm taking oakland to break the texans cover. the raiders will lose but not by 9.5 thx everyone
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    fade_this you are very wrong 9.5 is too many points for the texans to cover on oakland. with that being said i'm taking oakland to break the texans cover. the raiders will lose but not by 9.5 thx everyone
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 6:35 PM ET #5

    Raiders +9
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    Raiders +9
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 9:57 PM ET #6

    Raider +9.5. Nami shuts down Andre Johnson. Last time they met Johnson only had 2 catches for 19 yds. Bush and Mcfadden combine for 900 yds. And Russel just looks bad in this one instead of like complete, fill in the blank.
    Last seasons box score.  
    Matt Schaub 19/36 255 0 1
    JaMarcus Russell 18/25 236 2 0
    Steve Slaton 18 66 0 19
    Kevin Walter 1 13 0 13
    Matt Schaub 2 10 0 8
    Vonta Leach 1 1 1 1
    Justin Fargas 22 93 0 13
    Darren McFadden 12 46 0 14
     
    Johnson 2 19 0 12
    Johnson 2 19 0 12
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    Raider +9.5. Nami shuts down Andre Johnson. Last time they met Johnson only had 2 catches for 19 yds. Bush and Mcfadden combine for 900 yds. And Russel just looks bad in this one instead of like complete, fill in the blank.
    Last seasons box score.  
    Matt Schaub 19/36 255 0 1
    JaMarcus Russell 18/25 236 2 0
    Steve Slaton 18 66 0 19
    Kevin Walter 1 13 0 13
    Matt Schaub 2 10 0 8
    Vonta Leach 1 1 1 1
    Justin Fargas 22 93 0 13
    Darren McFadden 12 46 0 14
     
    Johnson 2 19 0 12
    Johnson 2 19 0 12
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 9:59 PM ET #7

    Well I think you get the point.
     
    *Russel was 18/25     236     2     0
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    Well I think you get the point.
     
    *Russel was 18/25     236     2     0
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 3:13 AM ET #8

    Good luck mr pro-z.  And I agree that Nnamdi is one of the best if not the best corner in the league and Chris Johnson is a another great young db.  After all I'm from the bay area myself and have gotten a good look at these guys.  But on the offensive side..not only does oakland not have a quarterback, they don't have any receivers.
     
    You have to wonder why the Raiders didn't keep a proven veteran like Jeff Garcia on the roster.  Well its because the Raiders overpaid Russell are they sticking to it no matter what..its what they do.  Why..because you simply can't have 31 million dollars sitting on your bench.  Based on his play, there's no way this guy would be starting on this team or any other. 
     
    It's been rumored that he doesn't watch film and that he seems to have poor work ethic.  and why not?  He's already gotten his 31 guaranteed and that seems to be enough for him.  He's not a competitor and you just have to wonder how long the rest of the players on the team will fight for him, especially in such a tough league.  Think something like this doesn't have an effect on a football game?  I see this team finishing 3-13 at best. 
     
    and I surely can't imagine wagering any money on them.
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    Good luck mr pro-z.  And I agree that Nnamdi is one of the best if not the best corner in the league and Chris Johnson is a another great young db.  After all I'm from the bay area myself and have gotten a good look at these guys.  But on the offensive side..not only does oakland not have a quarterback, they don't have any receivers.
     
    You have to wonder why the Raiders didn't keep a proven veteran like Jeff Garcia on the roster.  Well its because the Raiders overpaid Russell are they sticking to it no matter what..its what they do.  Why..because you simply can't have 31 million dollars sitting on your bench.  Based on his play, there's no way this guy would be starting on this team or any other. 
     
    It's been rumored that he doesn't watch film and that he seems to have poor work ethic.  and why not?  He's already gotten his 31 guaranteed and that seems to be enough for him.  He's not a competitor and you just have to wonder how long the rest of the players on the team will fight for him, especially in such a tough league.  Think something like this doesn't have an effect on a football game?  I see this team finishing 3-13 at best. 
     
    and I surely can't imagine wagering any money on them.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 3:17 AM ET #9

    I think there's no better indicator of his work ethic than the fact that after a poor season last year he's somehow managed to become worse this year.
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    I think there's no better indicator of his work ethic than the fact that after a poor season last year he's somehow managed to become worse this year.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 10:37 AM ET #10

    the texans coverd a 10 point spread maybe once against a sorry ass oakland team which is way better this year. you will see what am talking about come game time. my picks are no joke i went 8-9 last week good luck to you
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    the texans coverd a 10 point spread maybe once against a sorry ass oakland team which is way better this year. you will see what am talking about come game time. my picks are no joke i went 8-9 last week good luck to you
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 11:27 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

    the texans coverd a 10 point spread maybe once against a sorry ass oakland team which is way better this year. you will see what am talking about come game time. my picks are no joke i went 8-9 last week good luck to you

    8-9 and your picks are no joke? Losing money isn't too great man.  This line seems about right to me I think Texans bounce back though after a bad loss to Jacksonville last weekend.  Run DMC is no MJD. Schuab is 100x better than Russel. Texans have too many weapons to be 1-3. Texans roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

    the texans coverd a 10 point spread maybe once against a sorry ass oakland team which is way better this year. you will see what am talking about come game time. my picks are no joke i went 8-9 last week good luck to you

    8-9 and your picks are no joke? Losing money isn't too great man.  This line seems about right to me I think Texans bounce back though after a bad loss to Jacksonville last weekend.  Run DMC is no MJD. Schuab is 100x better than Russel. Texans have too many weapons to be 1-3. Texans roll.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 12:13 PM ET #12

    Both teams are bad with talent.  The organizations dont know how to win.  This is not a game to load up on by any means.
    Raiders can cover because Texans have looked bad this year, or Texans can cover because they are at home with very talented players on the team.
    Lay off this game
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    Both teams are bad with talent.  The organizations dont know how to win.  This is not a game to load up on by any means.
    Raiders can cover because Texans have looked bad this year, or Texans can cover because they are at home with very talented players on the team.
    Lay off this game
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 1:08 PM ET #13

    vvryan are you retartet?!? i didnt say oakland will win but i said the texans wont cover and also get your facts checked big boy my picks are no jokes and come game time i will be posting your name all over these threads.. oakland streight up lost from sd by 4 you think the texans will fucken beat them by 10??? do you even watch football.. do you know that oakland have seymore do ou know that the texans can't stop a running game worth shit? do you know these facts.. we will see ma man you stick with your picks but don't come in here insulting me and what i picked cause i made 15000 dollors last week so i'm the one laughing even if i lost this game
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    vvryan are you retartet?!? i didnt say oakland will win but i said the texans wont cover and also get your facts checked big boy my picks are no jokes and come game time i will be posting your name all over these threads.. oakland streight up lost from sd by 4 you think the texans will fucken beat them by 10??? do you even watch football.. do you know that oakland have seymore do ou know that the texans can't stop a running game worth shit? do you know these facts.. we will see ma man you stick with your picks but don't come in here insulting me and what i picked cause i made 15000 dollors last week so i'm the one laughing even if i lost this game
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 1:09 PM ET #14

    and by 8-9 i mean i won 8 games outa 9 you retart
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    and by 8-9 i mean i won 8 games outa 9 you retart
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 1:10 PM ET #15

    retart** for the first post
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    retart** for the first post
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 4:24 PM ET #16

    dude where the hell are you from?? First off 8-9 means 8 wins 9 losses. Second its retard or retarded not retart or retatet. 8-9 sucks dude i could of flipped a coin better than that
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    dude where the hell are you from?? First off 8-9 means 8 wins 9 losses. Second its retard or retarded not retart or retatet. 8-9 sucks dude i could of flipped a coin better than that
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 4:31 PM ET #17

    i explained it to you, you ignorant fuck.. and i'm jordanian.. i would love for you to speak my language or have 3 languages on your hands and or achieve half of my schooling or do what i did to get where i am today... so now you can shut the hell up and watch oakland stop the texans from the spread.. oh and buddy i said in the last post i meant to say 8 wins which makes it 1-9 i guess.. now do i live up to what your expecting?!
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    i explained it to you, you ignorant fuck.. and i'm jordanian.. i would love for you to speak my language or have 3 languages on your hands and or achieve half of my schooling or do what i did to get where i am today... so now you can shut the hell up and watch oakland stop the texans from the spread.. oh and buddy i said in the last post i meant to say 8 wins which makes it 1-9 i guess.. now do i live up to what your expecting?!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 4:43 PM ET #18

    8-1***
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    8-1***
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 6:16 PM ET #19

    pro-z..its not enough to say that week 1 the raiders lost to san diego by four points so houston is incapable of beating them by 10.  well..what about denver beating them by 20 points?
     
    of course the score of a game is a great indicator of what happened..but theres a lot more that goes into and often times a score is misleading of a teams actual performance in that game or their true ability level.  I actually had raiders +10 in that game and felt lucky to have won.  If the same game was played again this week I would take san diego.
     
    by the way, one good week doesn't mean your a pro.  let me know if you make it through the season with a positive bank roll and then I'll be impressed.
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    pro-z..its not enough to say that week 1 the raiders lost to san diego by four points so houston is incapable of beating them by 10.  well..what about denver beating them by 20 points?
     
    of course the score of a game is a great indicator of what happened..but theres a lot more that goes into and often times a score is misleading of a teams actual performance in that game or their true ability level.  I actually had raiders +10 in that game and felt lucky to have won.  If the same game was played again this week I would take san diego.
     
    by the way, one good week doesn't mean your a pro.  let me know if you make it through the season with a positive bank roll and then I'll be impressed.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 8:33 PM ET #20

    i can't wait tell game time omg i'm gonna laugh and laugh at you tell there is no more breath in me.. you are one of the people that vegas like
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    i can't wait tell game time omg i'm gonna laugh and laugh at you tell there is no more breath in me.. you are one of the people that vegas like
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 9:28 PM ET #21

    im not sure why you are getting defensive..I dont feel like i attacked you just sharing an opinion about the game. 
     
    good luck on the game and even the best cappers are only 60% at best..I wouldn't be laughing at you if houston covered. and if oakland takes it, maybe i would just say damn good pick and move on.
     
    if you'll notice i wasn't the one taking shots at you.
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    im not sure why you are getting defensive..I dont feel like i attacked you just sharing an opinion about the game. 
     
    good luck on the game and even the best cappers are only 60% at best..I wouldn't be laughing at you if houston covered. and if oakland takes it, maybe i would just say damn good pick and move on.
     
    if you'll notice i wasn't the one taking shots at you.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2009 - 9:31 PM ET #22

    interesting too that you judge an ability to handicap games from one instance with the conclusion that vegas must love me.
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    interesting too that you judge an ability to handicap games from one instance with the conclusion that vegas must love me.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 10:01 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

    fade_this you are very wrong 9.5 is too many points for the texans to cover on oakland. with that being said i'm taking oakland to break the texans cover. the raiders will lose but not by 9.5 thx everyone


    I for one don't like to see squables on the message boards. The public is never 100% on any game, so opinions and capping do vary.

    That said, pro-z, going 8-1 (W-L) is quite impressive.  I'm curious to know what game was your loss, and more importantly how you came to conclude the statement above.  Do you have specific reasoning such as trends, weather, player matchups, team matchup, history, upcoming schedule, etc.?

    I appreciate your pick, but I'd love to know how you got there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

    fade_this you are very wrong 9.5 is too many points for the texans to cover on oakland. with that being said i'm taking oakland to break the texans cover. the raiders will lose but not by 9.5 thx everyone


    I for one don't like to see squables on the message boards. The public is never 100% on any game, so opinions and capping do vary.

    That said, pro-z, going 8-1 (W-L) is quite impressive.  I'm curious to know what game was your loss, and more importantly how you came to conclude the statement above.  Do you have specific reasoning such as trends, weather, player matchups, team matchup, history, upcoming schedule, etc.?

    I appreciate your pick, but I'd love to know how you got there.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 10:02 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

    vvryan are you retartet?!? i didnt say oakland will win but i said the texans wont cover and also get your facts checked big boy my picks are no jokes and come game time i will be posting your name all over these threads.. oakland streight up lost from sd by 4 you think the texans will fucken beat them by 10??? do you even watch football.. do you know that oakland have seymore do ou know that the texans can't stop a running game worth shit? do you know these facts.. we will see ma man you stick with your picks but don't come in here insulting me and what i picked cause i made 15000 dollors last week so i'm the one laughing even if i lost this game

    Easy there cowboy.  First off retart? LOL Please call me that any day man I really don't care. Secondly, I'd like to see where your 8-1 picks from last week are? Looks to me like you were on Carolina and Vikings which would be at least two losses. ?  You go into these forums and post absurd records every week and act like you know everything.  And yes I watch football dumbass I went 10-1 ATS last week and if you don't believe me you can go look at my League Champions Record to show it. I can't believe I'm arguing this Texans aren't even a strong play for me this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

    vvryan are you retartet?!? i didnt say oakland will win but i said the texans wont cover and also get your facts checked big boy my picks are no jokes and come game time i will be posting your name all over these threads.. oakland streight up lost from sd by 4 you think the texans will fucken beat them by 10??? do you even watch football.. do you know that oakland have seymore do ou know that the texans can't stop a running game worth shit? do you know these facts.. we will see ma man you stick with your picks but don't come in here insulting me and what i picked cause i made 15000 dollors last week so i'm the one laughing even if i lost this game

    Easy there cowboy.  First off retart? LOL Please call me that any day man I really don't care. Secondly, I'd like to see where your 8-1 picks from last week are? Looks to me like you were on Carolina and Vikings which would be at least two losses. ?  You go into these forums and post absurd records every week and act like you know everything.  And yes I watch football dumbass I went 10-1 ATS last week and if you don't believe me you can go look at my League Champions Record to show it. I can't believe I'm arguing this Texans aren't even a strong play for me this week.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 12:44 PM ET #25

    Raiders +9 for me ........ Texans win but don't cover .....      GLTA
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    Raiders +9 for me ........ Texans win but don't cover .....      GLTA
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