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    Oakland at Baltimore (11/11/2012)

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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 12:42 AM ET #1

    Away:  Oakland [3-5 ATS]
    Home:  Baltimore [3-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: M&T Bank Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: Carson Palmer (2355)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (455)
    Receiving: Denarius Moore (485)

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (1990)
    Rushing: Ray Rice (622)
    Receiving: Anquan Boldin (510)

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    Away:  Oakland [3-5 ATS]
    Home:  Baltimore [3-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: M&T Bank Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: Carson Palmer (2355)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (455)
    Receiving: Denarius Moore (485)

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (1990)
    Rushing: Ray Rice (622)
    Receiving: Anquan Boldin (510)

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 1:02 AM ET #2

    i like the 10 points for oakland here.  They are putting up some points on offense lately.  baltimore is 6-2 but could very very easily and should be 4-4.  9-6 against K.C. are you kidding me?  and they should have lost last week against Cleveland down 15-14 with 4 minutes left.  I see Baltimore to start losing alot of games here on out.  just devistating injuries to that team and i dont see Fluko leading that team anywhere. just doesnt have that IT factor to be an elite nfl QB.  i see Pittsburgh running away with this divison by a few games. I wouldnt be surprised at all if baltimore fights to finish 9-7.  Losing 5 out of thier last 8 isnt a far fetch.  Oakland keeps this game close and might even squeak out a win here.  take the points here.

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    i like the 10 points for oakland here.  They are putting up some points on offense lately.  baltimore is 6-2 but could very very easily and should be 4-4.  9-6 against K.C. are you kidding me?  and they should have lost last week against Cleveland down 15-14 with 4 minutes left.  I see Baltimore to start losing alot of games here on out.  just devistating injuries to that team and i dont see Fluko leading that team anywhere. just doesnt have that IT factor to be an elite nfl QB.  i see Pittsburgh running away with this divison by a few games. I wouldnt be surprised at all if baltimore fights to finish 9-7.  Losing 5 out of thier last 8 isnt a far fetch.  Oakland keeps this game close and might even squeak out a win here.  take the points here.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 2:39 PM ET #3

      ravens   all  rice   all day  28  to  3
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      ravens   all  rice   all day  28  to  3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 10:31 PM ET #4

        Seeing a close,hard fought contest.

    BALTIMORE   - 9.5

    Under 46

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        Seeing a close,hard fought contest.

    BALTIMORE   - 9.5

    Under 46

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 4:18 AM ET #5

    Baltimore

    YTD: 43-35-1 (55.1%)

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    Baltimore

    YTD: 43-35-1 (55.1%)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 10:35 AM ET #6

    Oak lost the run game and that would have helped against this missing run defense and that puts the ball into Palmers hands more than they wanted to.Question is and has become an even larger than before question,can you rely on Flacco to out game manage Palmer.I think he may but certainly not to tune of points being given.

    Oakland and the points...it may not be 'Just Win Baby' but 'Just Cover' will be fine here.

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    Oak lost the run game and that would have helped against this missing run defense and that puts the ball into Palmers hands more than they wanted to.Question is and has become an even larger than before question,can you rely on Flacco to out game manage Palmer.I think he may but certainly not to tune of points being given.

    Oakland and the points...it may not be 'Just Win Baby' but 'Just Cover' will be fine here.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 2:02 PM ET #7

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Tarynfor12]

    Oak lost the run game and that would have helped against this missing run defense and that puts the ball into Palmers hands more than they wanted to.Question is and has become an even larger than before question,can you rely on Flacco to out game manage Palmer.I think he may but certainly not to tune of points being given.

    Can you ever rely on Palmer??? He hasn't been the same since getting hurt against the Steelers in the 2005 playoffs. I have learned over the past couple years to not trust Caron Palmer because he doesn't perform very well against top notch competition. I will take Flacco at home. Ravens seem to easily beat most of their lesser opponents in Baltimore but then underperform against bad teams on the road.

    Ravens -7.5

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Tarynfor12]

    Oak lost the run game and that would have helped against this missing run defense and that puts the ball into Palmers hands more than they wanted to.Question is and has become an even larger than before question,can you rely on Flacco to out game manage Palmer.I think he may but certainly not to tune of points being given.

    Can you ever rely on Palmer??? He hasn't been the same since getting hurt against the Steelers in the 2005 playoffs. I have learned over the past couple years to not trust Caron Palmer because he doesn't perform very well against top notch competition. I will take Flacco at home. Ravens seem to easily beat most of their lesser opponents in Baltimore but then underperform against bad teams on the road.

    Ravens -7.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 2:21 AM ET #8

    Oakland, west coast team traveling to east coast of the country for early morning game.....never good.  Look what happened to Chargers at Cleveland.  West never travels well to East with early games.
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    Oakland, west coast team traveling to east coast of the country for early morning game.....never good.  Look what happened to Chargers at Cleveland.  West never travels well to East with early games.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 10:17 AM ET #9

    ravens dont lose at home. i think they might cover this game but, if i take my boys, i would tease them down. i know am a ravens fan and live in baltimore but stop hating on the ravens just because they win ugly. thats how the ravens always play, and they always make the playoffs. they lost some big players on their DE,and reed is playing with a torn labrum and ngata is playing with a sprain MCL also, dont tell me that flacco cant drive a team down the feild to win the game. @joshcenci..i`am sure you remember FLACCO hitting tory smith on that game winning TD drive against that team in upstate penn.and beating that team twice last year if lee evens doesnt drop that ball that hit him right in his hands last year they go to the superbowl. he outplayed Brady and had better stats then Eli had in the superbowl against New England when Flacco faced New England in the AFC championship. he`s not the best but, if it wasnt for flacco the ravens would`nt be 6 n 2 this year the way their DE has played this season.
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    ravens dont lose at home. i think they might cover this game but, if i take my boys, i would tease them down. i know am a ravens fan and live in baltimore but stop hating on the ravens just because they win ugly. thats how the ravens always play, and they always make the playoffs. they lost some big players on their DE,and reed is playing with a torn labrum and ngata is playing with a sprain MCL also, dont tell me that flacco cant drive a team down the feild to win the game. @joshcenci..i`am sure you remember FLACCO hitting tory smith on that game winning TD drive against that team in upstate penn.and beating that team twice last year if lee evens doesnt drop that ball that hit him right in his hands last year they go to the superbowl. he outplayed Brady and had better stats then Eli had in the superbowl against New England when Flacco faced New England in the AFC championship. he`s not the best but, if it wasnt for flacco the ravens would`nt be 6 n 2 this year the way their DE has played this season.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 10:54 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by joshcenci12345:

    i like the 10 points for oakland here.  They are putting up some points on offense lately.  baltimore is 6-2 but could very very easily and should be 4-4.  9-6 against K.C. are you kidding me?  and they should have lost last week against Cleveland down 15-14 with 4 minutes left.  I see Baltimore to start losing alot of games here on out.  just devistating injuries to that team and i dont see Fluko leading that team anywhere. just doesnt have that IT factor to be an elite nfl QB.  i see Pittsburgh running away with this divison by a few games. I wouldnt be surprised at all if baltimore fights to finish 9-7.  Losing 5 out of thier last 8 isnt a far fetch.  Oakland keeps this game close and might even squeak out a win here.  take the points here.


    And what are you smoking sir? Baltimore hasn't lost at home since prehistoric ages...and you pick Oakland? Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshcenci12345:

    i like the 10 points for oakland here.  They are putting up some points on offense lately.  baltimore is 6-2 but could very very easily and should be 4-4.  9-6 against K.C. are you kidding me?  and they should have lost last week against Cleveland down 15-14 with 4 minutes left.  I see Baltimore to start losing alot of games here on out.  just devistating injuries to that team and i dont see Fluko leading that team anywhere. just doesnt have that IT factor to be an elite nfl QB.  i see Pittsburgh running away with this divison by a few games. I wouldnt be surprised at all if baltimore fights to finish 9-7.  Losing 5 out of thier last 8 isnt a far fetch.  Oakland keeps this game close and might even squeak out a win here.  take the points here.


    And what are you smoking sir? Baltimore hasn't lost at home since prehistoric ages...and you pick Oakland? Lmao
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 10:58 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        Seeing a close,hard fought contest.

    BALTIMORE   - 9.5

    Under 46


    So you think Baltimore wins by 10? You said "close game" so I wasn't sure what your definition of close was. I'd say Baltimore wins by 13 at least in this one. Oakland is just not cut out for this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        Seeing a close,hard fought contest.

    BALTIMORE   - 9.5

    Under 46


    So you think Baltimore wins by 10? You said "close game" so I wasn't sure what your definition of close was. I'd say Baltimore wins by 13 at least in this one. Oakland is just not cut out for this situation.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        Seeing a close,hard fought contest.

    BALTIMORE   - 9.5

    Under 46

    I'm seeing a close, hard fought contest too - - that's why I like the Raiders +9.5

    This one's matching up to be just like the Raiders/Falcons game a few weeks ago. Except replace Turner's piss poor 11 rushes for 33 yards with and even worse O-Line and RB in Rice , and Ryan's 3 picks with Flaky Flacco "scrambling" around?

    Don't get me wrong - Ravens win the game, but not because of their offense - and certainly not by 10 points.....

    I see this game like 17-14 or 17-10, something like that

    Faders +9.5

    Under 46

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        Seeing a close,hard fought contest.

    BALTIMORE   - 9.5

    Under 46

    I'm seeing a close, hard fought contest too - - that's why I like the Raiders +9.5

    This one's matching up to be just like the Raiders/Falcons game a few weeks ago. Except replace Turner's piss poor 11 rushes for 33 yards with and even worse O-Line and RB in Rice , and Ryan's 3 picks with Flaky Flacco "scrambling" around?

    Don't get me wrong - Ravens win the game, but not because of their offense - and certainly not by 10 points.....

    I see this game like 17-14 or 17-10, something like that

    Faders +9.5

    Under 46

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 3:39 AM ET #13

    OAK +9.5 (.5u) - SCORE: Raiders 24-Ravens 28
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    OAK +9.5 (.5u) - SCORE: Raiders 24-Ravens 28
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 10:28 AM ET #14

    all the books and lines i`ve seen are ravens-7.5. whats up with this 9.5 line i keep seeing people posting on here?
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    all the books and lines i`ve seen are ravens-7.5. whats up with this 9.5 line i keep seeing people posting on here?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 1:31 PM ET #15

    this game right here is a classic spot where you must "take advantage of an advantage" - not only do you have a west coast team traveling east, but it's one of the worst teams in the league trying to compete vs. a playoff team while missing both of their running backs.  this screams carson palmer turnovers all day.  easy runaway game and chance for baltimore to pick up some momentum with steelers coming up twice on their schedule.

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    this game right here is a classic spot where you must "take advantage of an advantage" - not only do you have a west coast team traveling east, but it's one of the worst teams in the league trying to compete vs. a playoff team while missing both of their running backs.  this screams carson palmer turnovers all day.  easy runaway game and chance for baltimore to pick up some momentum with steelers coming up twice on their schedule.

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 3:13 PM ET #16

    I don't want to over think this one.  The Raiders haven't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years and I don't see any reason why they would snap that streak on Sunday against the Ravens, who sport one of the best home field advantages in the NFL.  In fact, the Ravens haven't lost a home game since week 12 of the 2010 season when the Steelers edged them out 13-10. 
    So we have a team that hasn't lost at home in 2 years versus a team that hasn't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years.  To make this even more of a longshot the Raiders best player, McFadden, and his backup, Goodson, have been ruled out for this game.  How in the world are the Raiders supposed to be competitive in this game? Carson Palmer is an above average quarterback, but without the threat of a running game, I really don't like his chances this Sunday.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a beating this Sunday. 

    I would buy the hook and get this to Baltimore -7.  I think they win this comfortably and I'm predicting a defensive score from Ed Reed.

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    I don't want to over think this one.  The Raiders haven't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years and I don't see any reason why they would snap that streak on Sunday against the Ravens, who sport one of the best home field advantages in the NFL.  In fact, the Ravens haven't lost a home game since week 12 of the 2010 season when the Steelers edged them out 13-10. 
    So we have a team that hasn't lost at home in 2 years versus a team that hasn't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years.  To make this even more of a longshot the Raiders best player, McFadden, and his backup, Goodson, have been ruled out for this game.  How in the world are the Raiders supposed to be competitive in this game? Carson Palmer is an above average quarterback, but without the threat of a running game, I really don't like his chances this Sunday.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a beating this Sunday. 

    I would buy the hook and get this to Baltimore -7.  I think they win this comfortably and I'm predicting a defensive score from Ed Reed.

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 8:51 PM ET #17

    balt n over. game on carson who i dont trust. if cam feeds ray 25 times they will win by 17 plus
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    balt n over. game on carson who i dont trust. if cam feeds ray 25 times they will win by 17 plus
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 6:07 AM ET #18

    Ravens will pressure Carson into a couple of picks.. Raiders can't run the ball, so a one dimensional offense is easy for the Raiders to stop.. Flacco at home is alot better then on the road.. Gimmie the Ravens -7.5 for $300
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    Ravens will pressure Carson into a couple of picks.. Raiders can't run the ball, so a one dimensional offense is easy for the Raiders to stop.. Flacco at home is alot better then on the road.. Gimmie the Ravens -7.5 for $300
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 7:59 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by bigrazz:

    all the books and lines i`ve seen are ravens-7.5. whats up with this 9.5 line i keep seeing people posting on here?

    You're right about that bigrazz!  I just noticed that I have a 3-Team Parlay that's still alive.  It's Vanderbilt +2.5, Seattle -7 and Oakland +9 over Baltimore.  I put that in a few days ago when the line was +9.

    The line really crashed! I don't know why, but maybe a lot of bettors jumping on Baltimore?  I'm only using Oakland on the parlay, but here's current analysis on this game...

    Analysis of Oakland vs. Baltimore from The Gold Sheet:

    Oakland 24 at Baltimore 27 "Baltimore (1-5 vs. the line last 6) not as scary these days...Ray Lewis' absence is only part of the problem. Among other things, the Ravens are not generating much pass rush these days if foes can properly account for Terrell Suggs.

    Meanwhile, Oakland won't even pretend it wants to run the ball if Darren McFadden (ankle last week vs. the Bucs) is hurting. But Carson Palmer (4 TDP last week) now has enough familiarity with his receiving targets for the Raiders to fight one-armed if necessary."

    Oakland +7.5 over Baltimore

    BOL with who you run with 

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrazz:

    all the books and lines i`ve seen are ravens-7.5. whats up with this 9.5 line i keep seeing people posting on here?

    You're right about that bigrazz!  I just noticed that I have a 3-Team Parlay that's still alive.  It's Vanderbilt +2.5, Seattle -7 and Oakland +9 over Baltimore.  I put that in a few days ago when the line was +9.

    The line really crashed! I don't know why, but maybe a lot of bettors jumping on Baltimore?  I'm only using Oakland on the parlay, but here's current analysis on this game...

    Analysis of Oakland vs. Baltimore from The Gold Sheet:

    Oakland 24 at Baltimore 27 "Baltimore (1-5 vs. the line last 6) not as scary these days...Ray Lewis' absence is only part of the problem. Among other things, the Ravens are not generating much pass rush these days if foes can properly account for Terrell Suggs.

    Meanwhile, Oakland won't even pretend it wants to run the ball if Darren McFadden (ankle last week vs. the Bucs) is hurting. But Carson Palmer (4 TDP last week) now has enough familiarity with his receiving targets for the Raiders to fight one-armed if necessary."

    Oakland +7.5 over Baltimore

    BOL with who you run with 

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    I don't want to over think this one.  The Raiders haven't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years and I don't see any reason why they would snap that streak on Sunday against the Ravens, who sport one of the best home field advantages in the NFL.  In fact, the Ravens haven't lost a home game since week 12 of the 2010 season when the Steelers edged them out 13-10. 
    So we have a team that hasn't lost at home in 2 years versus a team that hasn't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years.  To make this even more of a longshot the Raiders best player, McFadden, and his backup, Goodson, have been ruled out for this game.  How in the world are the Raiders supposed to be competitive in this game? Carson Palmer is an above average quarterback, but without the threat of a running game, I really don't like his chances this Sunday.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a beating this Sunday. 

    I would buy the hook and get this to Baltimore -7.  I think they win this comfortably and I'm predicting a defensive score from Ed Reed.

    31-13

    Agree 100% about Baltimore's home winning streak.  Ravens now 4-0 at home last four.  But Baltimore only 1-3 vs. the point spread at home!  Even failed to cover the spread against Cleveland (2-7).

    Your analysis vs. Oakland is spot on.  I took Oakland +9 on a 3-Team Parlay, but won't touch this game straight up with a ten-foot football! 

      

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    I don't want to over think this one.  The Raiders haven't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years and I don't see any reason why they would snap that streak on Sunday against the Ravens, who sport one of the best home field advantages in the NFL.  In fact, the Ravens haven't lost a home game since week 12 of the 2010 season when the Steelers edged them out 13-10. 
    So we have a team that hasn't lost at home in 2 years versus a team that hasn't won a 1:00 east coast game in 3 years.  To make this even more of a longshot the Raiders best player, McFadden, and his backup, Goodson, have been ruled out for this game.  How in the world are the Raiders supposed to be competitive in this game? Carson Palmer is an above average quarterback, but without the threat of a running game, I really don't like his chances this Sunday.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a beating this Sunday. 

    I would buy the hook and get this to Baltimore -7.  I think they win this comfortably and I'm predicting a defensive score from Ed Reed.

    31-13

    Agree 100% about Baltimore's home winning streak.  Ravens now 4-0 at home last four.  But Baltimore only 1-3 vs. the point spread at home!  Even failed to cover the spread against Cleveland (2-7).

    Your analysis vs. Oakland is spot on.  I took Oakland +9 on a 3-Team Parlay, but won't touch this game straight up with a ten-foot football! 

      

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 10:25 AM ET #21

    Last 10 meetings total never went over 40. Turnover prone game and more running from Bal is going to keep this under as well.
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    Last 10 meetings total never went over 40. Turnover prone game and more running from Bal is going to keep this under as well.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 12:42 PM ET #22

    over here. Both offenses are top 10 in passing and both d's are bottom 12 in pass d.
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    over here. Both offenses are top 10 in passing and both d's are bottom 12 in pass d.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 12:49 PM ET #23

    Raiders D is the worst I have seen in along time......Baltimore tt points over
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    Raiders D is the worst I have seen in along time......Baltimore tt points over
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 1:00 PM ET #24

    Early NFL Picks:

    $4k - Broncos (-3.5)

    $2k - Buccaneers (-3)

    $2k - Raiders Under (48)

    $2k - Saints (+2)

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    Early NFL Picks:

    $4k - Broncos (-3.5)

    $2k - Buccaneers (-3)

    $2k - Raiders Under (48)

    $2k - Saints (+2)

     
     
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    Damn they are making this look like a college game
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    Damn they are making this look like a college game
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