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    New York at Philadelphia (11/21/2010)

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 1:39 AM ET #1

    Away:  N.Y. Giants [5-4 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [4-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    N.Y. Giants:
    Passing: Eli Manning (2448)
    Rushing: Ahmad Bradshaw (838)
    Receiving: Hakeem Nicks (735)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Michael Vick (1350)
    Rushing: LeSean McCoy (615)
    Receiving: DeSean Jackson (602)

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    Away:  N.Y. Giants [5-4 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [4-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    N.Y. Giants:
    Passing: Eli Manning (2448)
    Rushing: Ahmad Bradshaw (838)
    Receiving: Hakeem Nicks (735)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Michael Vick (1350)
    Rushing: LeSean McCoy (615)
    Receiving: DeSean Jackson (602)

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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 12:12 AM ET #2

     Should be one helluva game. Feel the Eagles are just too dominant for the Giants at this time. NY still in shock after the Dallas beatdown!

    PHILADELPHIA  - 3

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     Should be one helluva game. Feel the Eagles are just too dominant for the Giants at this time. NY still in shock after the Dallas beatdown!

    PHILADELPHIA  - 3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 4:07 AM ET #3

    People always remember the last game. NY came off a big blowout win and then a loss, Philly's coming off a big blowout win. Philly is fat and happy.

    I remember a Philly 50 point win at Detroit and played the Giants the next week, Giants sacked McNabb 12 times.

    Also a few years ago, Giants @ Falcons, Giants sacked Vick 8 times. Just something to think about.

    I think Coughlin is chewing some butt this week, Giants will be ready.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    People always remember the last game. NY came off a big blowout win and then a loss, Philly's coming off a big blowout win. Philly is fat and happy.

    I remember a Philly 50 point win at Detroit and played the Giants the next week, Giants sacked McNabb 12 times.

    Also a few years ago, Giants @ Falcons, Giants sacked Vick 8 times. Just something to think about.

    I think Coughlin is chewing some butt this week, Giants will be ready.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 4:52 AM ET #4

    yeah im taking the g men + 3, look for the giants defense to come up with big plays and i think Eli will have a good game.  This is a SHOW ME game for the giants.
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    yeah im taking the g men + 3, look for the giants defense to come up with big plays and i think Eli will have a good game.  This is a SHOW ME game for the giants.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 6:55 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by iLst:

    yeah im taking the g men + 3, look for the giants defense to come up with big plays and i think Eli will have a good game.  This is a SHOW ME game for the giants.

    The only thing that scares me in this game is that damn Vick nobody seems to be able to corale him.  Any other time i would think this is a perfect time to take the Giants at -3.  Might buy the Giants up to +7.5 parlay it with Indy +7.5 and the Pack shaved to -2.5 Favre and the boys are toast. ( Bottom line i think the Giants win this game but when its a think i am buying some pts.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by iLst:

    yeah im taking the g men + 3, look for the giants defense to come up with big plays and i think Eli will have a good game.  This is a SHOW ME game for the giants.

    The only thing that scares me in this game is that damn Vick nobody seems to be able to corale him.  Any other time i would think this is a perfect time to take the Giants at -3.  Might buy the Giants up to +7.5 parlay it with Indy +7.5 and the Pack shaved to -2.5 Favre and the boys are toast. ( Bottom line i think the Giants win this game but when its a think i am buying some pts.)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 7:28 AM ET #6

    TOTAL OVER 48
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    TOTAL OVER 48
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 10:05 AM ET #7

    not betting this but am a big eagles fan. i think they can win at home but after monday are in a nice letdown spot and the giants are in a double revenge spot. losing last 4 to philly and looking to redeem from last week. my eyes say philly. my brain says gmen. no pick though

    go eagles!

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    not betting this but am a big eagles fan. i think they can win at home but after monday are in a nice letdown spot and the giants are in a double revenge spot. losing last 4 to philly and looking to redeem from last week. my eyes say philly. my brain says gmen. no pick though

    go eagles!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 4:11 PM ET #8

    g-men +3
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    g-men +3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 5:11 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    The only thing that scares me in this game is that damn Vick nobody seems to be able to corale him.  Any other time i would think this is a perfect time to take the Giants at -3.  Might buy the Giants up to +7.5 parlay it with Indy +7.5 and the Pack shaved to -2.5 Favre and the boys are toast. ( Bottom line i think the Giants win this game but when its a think i am buying some pts.)


    Oct 11, 2006:

    "When the New York Giants play the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, they will have to deal with speed - a lot of it, on both sides of the ball. 

    On offense, the Falcons have the No. 1-ranked rushing attack in the entire NFL. Warrick Dunn, their featured back, is averaging an impressive 4.5 yards a carry, while his understudy, rookie Jerious Norwood, is averaging 8.8 yards per rush, including a 78-yard touchdown run against the Arizona Cardinals two weeks ago. But the Giants also have to contain Michael Vick, who is averaging 83 yards a game on the ground. That's a task much easier said than done.

    So how can Big Blue's defense slow down Atlanta's deadly attack?"

    Giants 27, Falcons 14, Vick sacked 7 times.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20061015001
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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    The only thing that scares me in this game is that damn Vick nobody seems to be able to corale him.  Any other time i would think this is a perfect time to take the Giants at -3.  Might buy the Giants up to +7.5 parlay it with Indy +7.5 and the Pack shaved to -2.5 Favre and the boys are toast. ( Bottom line i think the Giants win this game but when its a think i am buying some pts.)


    Oct 11, 2006:

    "When the New York Giants play the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, they will have to deal with speed - a lot of it, on both sides of the ball. 

    On offense, the Falcons have the No. 1-ranked rushing attack in the entire NFL. Warrick Dunn, their featured back, is averaging an impressive 4.5 yards a carry, while his understudy, rookie Jerious Norwood, is averaging 8.8 yards per rush, including a 78-yard touchdown run against the Arizona Cardinals two weeks ago. But the Giants also have to contain Michael Vick, who is averaging 83 yards a game on the ground. That's a task much easier said than done.

    So how can Big Blue's defense slow down Atlanta's deadly attack?"

    Giants 27, Falcons 14, Vick sacked 7 times.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20061015001
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 8:06 PM ET #10

    better gams on deck guys id advise just watching the highlights of Vick getting the DOGSHIT sacked out of him .....under
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    better gams on deck guys id advise just watching the highlights of Vick getting the DOGSHIT sacked out of him .....under
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2010 - 3:13 PM ET #11

    I like the Gmen in this game...

    SPY, I went to the game last Sunday and couldn't believe my eyes.... I was 1 week late on the let-down game... I figured it woudl be in Seattle.... I've never been as off as I was on that pick LOL.... the lights went out for 8 mins Sunday, pitch black... but the stadium is sick..... I still want to paint the stadium green lol...

    anyway... I think the Giants defensive line is much better than the Redskins'.... kinda like night and day.... they should be able to contain Vick, and if they blitz him they will force mistakes... there have been many passes that should've been picked, last week agaisnt the skins and the previous week against the Colts.... both wins were impressive but the key to stopping Vick is certainly not putting a spy on him like Wash did.... I dont' get it, your going to cover a guy with a slower guy? that shit never works lol...

    Division game, I'll take the points....

    any prop bets on how quick the Giants injure yet another qb?  it's bound to happen the way he runs around...

     

    GL TO ALL!

     

    oh, definitely buying the hook to 3.5

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    I like the Gmen in this game...

    SPY, I went to the game last Sunday and couldn't believe my eyes.... I was 1 week late on the let-down game... I figured it woudl be in Seattle.... I've never been as off as I was on that pick LOL.... the lights went out for 8 mins Sunday, pitch black... but the stadium is sick..... I still want to paint the stadium green lol...

    anyway... I think the Giants defensive line is much better than the Redskins'.... kinda like night and day.... they should be able to contain Vick, and if they blitz him they will force mistakes... there have been many passes that should've been picked, last week agaisnt the skins and the previous week against the Colts.... both wins were impressive but the key to stopping Vick is certainly not putting a spy on him like Wash did.... I dont' get it, your going to cover a guy with a slower guy? that shit never works lol...

    Division game, I'll take the points....

    any prop bets on how quick the Giants injure yet another qb?  it's bound to happen the way he runs around...

     

    GL TO ALL!

     

    oh, definitely buying the hook to 3.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2010 - 11:41 PM ET #12

    Don't think the Giants can hold Vick and his many weapons down completely, although they will have above average success with him.  The Giants defense seems to love challenges like this and shows up ready to go.  Also think the Philly defense is not solid enough to limit the Giants all that much.  Over is the play. 

    If I had to choose a side, I'd go with the NYG.   The NFL is notorious for 'what have you done for me lately?'.  This Giants teams is strong and IMO more balanced than the Eagles.  Eagles have great balance on offense and a phenom in 2010 Vick...yet the Giants are solid on both sides of the ball when they bring their 'A game'...which they will here.   Look for the Eagles defense to be exposed more than recently, especially with Hobbs out.

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    Don't think the Giants can hold Vick and his many weapons down completely, although they will have above average success with him.  The Giants defense seems to love challenges like this and shows up ready to go.  Also think the Philly defense is not solid enough to limit the Giants all that much.  Over is the play. 

    If I had to choose a side, I'd go with the NYG.   The NFL is notorious for 'what have you done for me lately?'.  This Giants teams is strong and IMO more balanced than the Eagles.  Eagles have great balance on offense and a phenom in 2010 Vick...yet the Giants are solid on both sides of the ball when they bring their 'A game'...which they will here.   Look for the Eagles defense to be exposed more than recently, especially with Hobbs out.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 7:35 AM ET #13

    Eagles-3.5 (-105) This is the best line I see as of this post time but I'll be taking Philadelphia with an alternate line as high as I can get it. The Division lead is on the line and the Eagles have the G-Men right where they want em... Eagles do a number in this one... just not as bad as vs McNabb and the Redskins.
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    Eagles-3.5 (-105) This is the best line I see as of this post time but I'll be taking Philadelphia with an alternate line as high as I can get it. The Division lead is on the line and the Eagles have the G-Men right where they want em... Eagles do a number in this one... just not as bad as vs McNabb and the Redskins.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 11:41 AM ET #14

    I like the OVER as well
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    I like the OVER as well
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 11:29 PM ET #15

    I like the Giants+3 
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    I like the Giants+3 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:45 AM ET #16

    NYG +3 (2units) - I'll take the g-men with the better D.  The public is remembering the all-star performance of Vick, but this division rivalry game favors new york. Score: Eagles 24-the new york football Giants 33
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    NYG +3 (2units) - I'll take the g-men with the better D.  The public is remembering the all-star performance of Vick, but this division rivalry game favors new york. Score: Eagles 24-the new york football Giants 33
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 7:03 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:


    Oct 11, 2006:

    "When the New York Giants play the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, they will have to deal with speed - a lot of it, on both sides of the ball. 

    On offense, the Falcons have the No. 1-ranked rushing attack in the entire NFL. Warrick Dunn, their featured back, is averaging an impressive 4.5 yards a carry, while his understudy, rookie Jerious Norwood, is averaging 8.8 yards per rush, including a 78-yard touchdown run against the Arizona Cardinals two weeks ago. But the Giants also have to contain Michael Vick, who is averaging 83 yards a game on the ground. That's a task much easier said than done.

    So how can Big Blue's defense slow down Atlanta's deadly attack?"

    Giants 27, Falcons 14, Vick sacked 7 times.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20061015001

    Giants +3 going with ya Spyweb. 

    The other factor the GIants will want to prove something after that showing against Dallas last week and this being another division game.

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    Oct 11, 2006:

    "When the New York Giants play the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, they will have to deal with speed - a lot of it, on both sides of the ball. 

    On offense, the Falcons have the No. 1-ranked rushing attack in the entire NFL. Warrick Dunn, their featured back, is averaging an impressive 4.5 yards a carry, while his understudy, rookie Jerious Norwood, is averaging 8.8 yards per rush, including a 78-yard touchdown run against the Arizona Cardinals two weeks ago. But the Giants also have to contain Michael Vick, who is averaging 83 yards a game on the ground. That's a task much easier said than done.

    So how can Big Blue's defense slow down Atlanta's deadly attack?"

    Giants 27, Falcons 14, Vick sacked 7 times.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20061015001

    Giants +3 going with ya Spyweb. 

    The other factor the GIants will want to prove something after that showing against Dallas last week and this being another division game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 5:28 PM ET #18

    How do you defend Michael Vick and all the weapons he has, especially on turf?  He was slow on the grass at Wash. but at home,  get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    How do you defend Michael Vick and all the weapons he has, especially on turf?  He was slow on the grass at Wash. but at home,  get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 10:27 PM ET #19

    Eagles take this one by at least a touchdown.  Yes, I'm saying this base on recent previous games Giants played and Vicks' returned.  Forget revenge, payback, or ancient history.  Look at the facts and my common sense says Vick will run all over the place and play as great as last week.  Can't rely on Eli Manning or Giants' defense.  They got ran over by Dallas!!!  Who?? Dallas!!!

    Eagles -6
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    Eagles take this one by at least a touchdown.  Yes, I'm saying this base on recent previous games Giants played and Vicks' returned.  Forget revenge, payback, or ancient history.  Look at the facts and my common sense says Vick will run all over the place and play as great as last week.  Can't rely on Eli Manning or Giants' defense.  They got ran over by Dallas!!!  Who?? Dallas!!!

    Eagles -6
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 12:03 AM ET #20

    My service call was Giants +3.5 Game of the Month pick.  They're saying the Giants will win by double digits.  After Michael Vick's performance on Monday Night, how can I not go with the Eagles?  Someone want to explain possible reason why this may be a good pick?
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    My service call was Giants +3.5 Game of the Month pick.  They're saying the Giants will win by double digits.  After Michael Vick's performance on Monday Night, how can I not go with the Eagles?  Someone want to explain possible reason why this may be a good pick?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 3:05 AM ET #21

    Sometimes we we think It can't be this easy and talk ourselves out of the obvious. This is the NFC Championship game right here. My guess is one of these two teams will be in the Superbowl. Two things first look at the over for both teams last 4-5 games. Second there is no answer for Vick( ie Cam Newton)  Like Boise State Just keep betting on them til they let you down. Line is sketchy -3 Phily at home? they win by 10 to 13. And you gotta love the Over. GLTA

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    Sometimes we we think It can't be this easy and talk ourselves out of the obvious. This is the NFC Championship game right here. My guess is one of these two teams will be in the Superbowl. Two things first look at the over for both teams last 4-5 games. Second there is no answer for Vick( ie Cam Newton)  Like Boise State Just keep betting on them til they let you down. Line is sketchy -3 Phily at home? they win by 10 to 13. And you gotta love the Over. GLTA

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 4:30 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I like the Gmen in this game...

    SPY, I went to the game last Sunday and couldn't believe my eyes.... I was 1 week late on the let-down game... I figured it woudl be in Seattle.... I've never been as off as I was on that pick LOL.... the lights went out for 8 mins Sunday, pitch black... but the stadium is sick..... I still want to paint the stadium green lol...

    anyway... I think the Giants defensive line is much better than the Redskins'.... kinda like night and day.... they should be able to contain Vick, and if they blitz him they will force mistakes... there have been many passes that should've been picked, last week agaisnt the skins and the previous week against the Colts.... both wins were impressive but the key to stopping Vick is certainly not putting a spy on him like Wash did.... I dont' get it, your going to cover a guy with a slower guy? that shit never works lol...

    Division game, I'll take the points....

    any prop bets on how quick the Giants injure yet another qb?  it's bound to happen the way he runs around...

     

    GL TO ALL!

     

    oh, definitely buying the hook to 3.5


    I was at the game too, section 315, there was a big fight just up above us but we could not see anything. The fight is on youtube.

    The lights went out all i could see were the flash bulbs going off.

    As much as i hate and wanted to beat the Cowbillies, it was a meaningless game. If the Giants had won and lose to the Eagles, the Eagles would still be on top. The Cowbillies are dead.

    When Vick was with the Falcons  VS. the NYGs, he was sacked 7 times and fumbled 4. He fumbles because he's always ready to throw the ball and carries it in one hand. Osi can now use his left hand to bat the ball.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I like the Gmen in this game...

    SPY, I went to the game last Sunday and couldn't believe my eyes.... I was 1 week late on the let-down game... I figured it woudl be in Seattle.... I've never been as off as I was on that pick LOL.... the lights went out for 8 mins Sunday, pitch black... but the stadium is sick..... I still want to paint the stadium green lol...

    anyway... I think the Giants defensive line is much better than the Redskins'.... kinda like night and day.... they should be able to contain Vick, and if they blitz him they will force mistakes... there have been many passes that should've been picked, last week agaisnt the skins and the previous week against the Colts.... both wins were impressive but the key to stopping Vick is certainly not putting a spy on him like Wash did.... I dont' get it, your going to cover a guy with a slower guy? that shit never works lol...

    Division game, I'll take the points....

    any prop bets on how quick the Giants injure yet another qb?  it's bound to happen the way he runs around...

     

    GL TO ALL!

     

    oh, definitely buying the hook to 3.5


    I was at the game too, section 315, there was a big fight just up above us but we could not see anything. The fight is on youtube.

    The lights went out all i could see were the flash bulbs going off.

    As much as i hate and wanted to beat the Cowbillies, it was a meaningless game. If the Giants had won and lose to the Eagles, the Eagles would still be on top. The Cowbillies are dead.

    When Vick was with the Falcons  VS. the NYGs, he was sacked 7 times and fumbled 4. He fumbles because he's always ready to throw the ball and carries it in one hand. Osi can now use his left hand to bat the ball.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 4:55 AM ET #23

    until I see different. EAGLES -3
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    until I see different. EAGLES -3
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shygorilla8082:

    My service call was Giants +3.5 Game of the Month pick.  They're saying the Giants will win by double digits.  After Michael Vick's performance on Monday Night, how can I not go with the Eagles?  Someone want to explain possible reason why this may be a good pick?

    Giants have to rock Jackson bring him back to that knockout that's still fresh in his mind. Make him gunshy, keep him looking for the next hit.
    I liked AP as MLB but he was too slow and it showed against the Eagles. I think the Giants can pressure Vick without sending everybody. If the Giants can get Vick to throw a few INTs, he'll start doubting himself and hold the ball longer. Did you see the Redskins' pass rush? I could have completed passes and baked a cake.

    If Eagles go blitz happy and Nicks is one on one, just throw it up to him. I trust Nicks and/or Manningham to play the same part. I remember Nicks dropped a few passes in that last Eagle game i also remember he catching a pass, spin and race to the EZ.

    Then you have Bradshaw, bust pass a blitz he can go all the way. He's #4 in the NFL in rushing and #2 in the NFC. In the 4th QTR the Eagles may get a heavy dose of a fresh Jacobs.

    Vick will take hits and the hardest hitters on "D" are Phillips and Boley. I say Boley not for the hit on Romo, but i'am been watching him, he has a mean streak, keep an eye on him.

    The books know people remember the last thing they see and bet accordingly, Vick the best performance by a QB ever and yet the Eagles are only a 3 point favorite? 3 points is what you give in a pick'em for homefield. I would like to see the NYGs +6.5, the books don't want to giveaway money. They want you to remember how great Philly is and bet them, and lose. 
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shygorilla8082:

    My service call was Giants +3.5 Game of the Month pick.  They're saying the Giants will win by double digits.  After Michael Vick's performance on Monday Night, how can I not go with the Eagles?  Someone want to explain possible reason why this may be a good pick?

    Giants have to rock Jackson bring him back to that knockout that's still fresh in his mind. Make him gunshy, keep him looking for the next hit.
    I liked AP as MLB but he was too slow and it showed against the Eagles. I think the Giants can pressure Vick without sending everybody. If the Giants can get Vick to throw a few INTs, he'll start doubting himself and hold the ball longer. Did you see the Redskins' pass rush? I could have completed passes and baked a cake.

    If Eagles go blitz happy and Nicks is one on one, just throw it up to him. I trust Nicks and/or Manningham to play the same part. I remember Nicks dropped a few passes in that last Eagle game i also remember he catching a pass, spin and race to the EZ.

    Then you have Bradshaw, bust pass a blitz he can go all the way. He's #4 in the NFL in rushing and #2 in the NFC. In the 4th QTR the Eagles may get a heavy dose of a fresh Jacobs.

    Vick will take hits and the hardest hitters on "D" are Phillips and Boley. I say Boley not for the hit on Romo, but i'am been watching him, he has a mean streak, keep an eye on him.

    The books know people remember the last thing they see and bet accordingly, Vick the best performance by a QB ever and yet the Eagles are only a 3 point favorite? 3 points is what you give in a pick'em for homefield. I would like to see the NYGs +6.5, the books don't want to giveaway money. They want you to remember how great Philly is and bet them, and lose. 
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 5:31 AM ET #25

    Underdog is 10-1 ATS in their last 11 meetings

    Nice one to close the night out with -- GIANTS & VER    
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    Underdog is 10-1 ATS in their last 11 meetings

    Nice one to close the night out with -- GIANTS & VER    
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