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    New York at Cincinnati (11/11/2012)

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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 12:42 AM ET #1

    Away:  N.Y. Giants [4-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cincinnati [2-5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Paul Brown Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    N.Y. Giants:
    Passing: Eli Manning (2426)
    Rushing: Ahmad Bradshaw (618)
    Receiving: Victor Cruz (717)

    Cincinnati:
    Passing: Andy Dalton (2130)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (487)
    Receiving: A.J. Green (735)

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    Away:  N.Y. Giants [4-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cincinnati [2-5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Paul Brown Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    N.Y. Giants:
    Passing: Eli Manning (2426)
    Rushing: Ahmad Bradshaw (618)
    Receiving: Victor Cruz (717)

    Cincinnati:
    Passing: Andy Dalton (2130)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (487)
    Receiving: A.J. Green (735)

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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 5:12 PM ET #2

    Giants are going to be coming of that loss to Pitt.Cincy stinks.Giants -4 all day long
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    Giants are going to be coming of that loss to Pitt.Cincy stinks.Giants -4 all day long
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 2:43 PM ET #3

       cinncy wins  makes nfc  east  interestn
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       cinncy wins  makes nfc  east  interestn
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 5:50 PM ET #4

    Another Manning will light up Cincy again this week

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    Another Manning will light up Cincy again this week

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 8:18 PM ET #5

    Gmen -4
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    Gmen -4
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 10:50 PM ET #6

    CINCINNATI   + 4

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    CINCINNATI   + 4

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 10:59 PM ET #7

    New York Giants - 4
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    New York Giants - 4
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 5:31 AM ET #8

    Early lean on the Giants
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    Early lean on the Giants
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 10:24 AM ET #9

    Giants on the road where they just continue to play their best football.

    Giants 31-23

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    Giants on the road where they just continue to play their best football.

    Giants 31-23

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 11:12 PM ET #10

    Giants secondary can be exploited. 

    Taking the over  LARGE on the over.
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    Giants secondary can be exploited. 

    Taking the over  LARGE on the over.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 9:15 AM ET #11

    giants should win this one but,sometimes cincy has a lil spark at home. still would take NY

    GL to all

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    giants should win this one but,sometimes cincy has a lil spark at home. still would take NY

    GL to all

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 2:49 PM ET #12

    The Giants will always be my team, but I hate them in this matchup.  Maybe I'm just a glass half empty kind've guy, but I think the Bengals will put up points on this struggling Giant defense. 

    Cincy has been downright embarassing at home lately.  They are 1-3 at home losing to the Fish, Steelers, and most recently, the Denver Broncos.  Their sole home win coming against the Cleveland Browns, which was in week 2.  Its been 7 NFL weeks since the Bengals won a home game.  Cincy looked horribly flat vs the Fish, turning the ball over twice and losing a close one. Cincy had a chance to deliver a knock-out blow against a 2-3 Steeler team in week 6 and forgot to show up for that game. And they came out flat last week vs the Broncos even after they had a full bye week to prepare for Peyton.  They picked him off twice, but didn't really capitalize in the redzone going 2-4. 

    Now for those of you who kept track, that's 3 consecutive home games they've lost.  I find that downright unacceptable given that this was a playoff team last year. They have also been burning a hole in my wallet throughout the process.  Why should I back these bums again???

    Well in come the Super Bowl Champion / struggling Giants.  Eli and Justin Tuck will tell you themselves that they are not playing good football.  Normally, a trip away from MetLife Stadium would be just what the doctor ordered for the struggling Gmen.  I'm just not a 100% sure I feel that way about this year's unit.  Ever since they beat the 49ers, they haven't looked the same.  They were lucky to beat Dallas and Washington, and the Steelers came into their backyard and pushed them around.  Their defensive line has some real talent, but they have major issues at middle linebacker and safety postions.  Teams are running the ball at will on them.  Fortunately for the Giants, Marvin Lewis is an idiot and probably won't run the ball enough.    

    Needless to say, I just dont like the Giants chances of turning things around against an extremely desperate and underachieving Bengals team.  I think both their offense and rush defense will be better that it was last week, but I don't think it will be good enough to cover 4 on the road.  I could see this game coming down to a field goal. 

     

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    The Giants will always be my team, but I hate them in this matchup.  Maybe I'm just a glass half empty kind've guy, but I think the Bengals will put up points on this struggling Giant defense. 

    Cincy has been downright embarassing at home lately.  They are 1-3 at home losing to the Fish, Steelers, and most recently, the Denver Broncos.  Their sole home win coming against the Cleveland Browns, which was in week 2.  Its been 7 NFL weeks since the Bengals won a home game.  Cincy looked horribly flat vs the Fish, turning the ball over twice and losing a close one. Cincy had a chance to deliver a knock-out blow against a 2-3 Steeler team in week 6 and forgot to show up for that game. And they came out flat last week vs the Broncos even after they had a full bye week to prepare for Peyton.  They picked him off twice, but didn't really capitalize in the redzone going 2-4. 

    Now for those of you who kept track, that's 3 consecutive home games they've lost.  I find that downright unacceptable given that this was a playoff team last year. They have also been burning a hole in my wallet throughout the process.  Why should I back these bums again???

    Well in come the Super Bowl Champion / struggling Giants.  Eli and Justin Tuck will tell you themselves that they are not playing good football.  Normally, a trip away from MetLife Stadium would be just what the doctor ordered for the struggling Gmen.  I'm just not a 100% sure I feel that way about this year's unit.  Ever since they beat the 49ers, they haven't looked the same.  They were lucky to beat Dallas and Washington, and the Steelers came into their backyard and pushed them around.  Their defensive line has some real talent, but they have major issues at middle linebacker and safety postions.  Teams are running the ball at will on them.  Fortunately for the Giants, Marvin Lewis is an idiot and probably won't run the ball enough.    

    Needless to say, I just dont like the Giants chances of turning things around against an extremely desperate and underachieving Bengals team.  I think both their offense and rush defense will be better that it was last week, but I don't think it will be good enough to cover 4 on the road.  I could see this game coming down to a field goal. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 3:15 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabud:

    Giants are going to be coming of that loss to Pitt.Cincy stinks.Giants -4 all day long


    I think that's the easy narrative that vegas is trying to spin with this line, but I agree with the Begals SU camp.  Giants only play well in big games and when their backs are to the wall and neither apply here.

    teams are 3-17 ATS going into their bye and giants have always struggled in cincy, which kind of means something historically.  The giants have done this for years after years.  Get out hot at 6-2 ish, they  don't have their backs against the wall

    CINCY +4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabud:

    Giants are going to be coming of that loss to Pitt.Cincy stinks.Giants -4 all day long


    I think that's the easy narrative that vegas is trying to spin with this line, but I agree with the Begals SU camp.  Giants only play well in big games and when their backs are to the wall and neither apply here.

    teams are 3-17 ATS going into their bye and giants have always struggled in cincy, which kind of means something historically.  The giants have done this for years after years.  Get out hot at 6-2 ish, they  don't have their backs against the wall

    CINCY +4
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 3:36 AM ET #14

    NYG -4 (1u) - SCORE: Giants 40-Bengals 21
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    NYG -4 (1u) - SCORE: Giants 40-Bengals 21
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 5:46 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    I think that's the easy narrative that vegas is trying to spin with this line, but I agree with the Begals SU camp.  Giants only play well in big games and when their backs are to the wall and neither apply here.

    teams are 3-17 ATS going into their bye and giants have always struggled in cincy, which kind of means something historically.  The giants have done this for years after years.  Get out hot at 6-2 ish, they don't have their backs against the wall

    CINCY +4

    Good pts Wangi, and I agree with the Begals SU camp, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    I think that's the easy narrative that vegas is trying to spin with this line, but I agree with the Begals SU camp.  Giants only play well in big games and when their backs are to the wall and neither apply here.

    teams are 3-17 ATS going into their bye and giants have always struggled in cincy, which kind of means something historically.  The giants have done this for years after years.  Get out hot at 6-2 ish, they don't have their backs against the wall

    CINCY +4

    Good pts Wangi, and I agree with the Begals SU camp, too.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 9:36 AM ET #16

    Sammy what are you doing brother?

    Here's my reasons I continue to support my Giants against this
    struggling Bengals defense.

    New York Giants are 3 for 3 on the road this year
    New York Giants 1 for 1 against teams with a losing record

    Cinci is 0 for 2 against a line of 3.5 to 9.5
    Cinci is 0 for 3 at home
    Cinci is 2 for 5 as an underdog

    Currently Andy Dalton is ranked dead last in the NFL on 3rd down
    conversions, this is not going to get any easier against a team
    like the Giants. I think the front 7 in New York are going to
    put to much pressure on Dalton's Bengals and he will turn the
    ball over at least twice in this game. Possibly a pick six is in order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    The Giants will always be my team, but I hate them in this matchup.  Maybe I'm just a glass half empty kind've guy, but I think the Bengals will put up points on this struggling Giant defense. 

    Cincy has been downright embarassing at home lately.  They are 1-3 at home losing to the Fish, Steelers, and most recently, the Denver Broncos.  Their sole home win coming against the Cleveland Browns, which was in week 2.  Its been 7 NFL weeks since the Bengals won a home game.  Cincy looked horribly flat vs the Fish, turning the ball over twice and losing a close one. Cincy had a chance to deliver a knock-out blow against a 2-3 Steeler team in week 6 and forgot to show up for that game. And they came out flat last week vs the Broncos even after they had a full bye week to prepare for Peyton.  They picked him off twice, but didn't really capitalize in the redzone going 2-4. 

    Now for those of you who kept track, that's 3 consecutive home games they've lost.  I find that downright unacceptable given that this was a playoff team last year. They have also been burning a hole in my wallet throughout the process.  Why should I back these bums again???

    Well in come the Super Bowl Champion / struggling Giants.  Eli and Justin Tuck will tell you themselves that they are not playing good football.  Normally, a trip away from MetLife Stadium would be just what the doctor ordered for the struggling Gmen.  I'm just not a 100% sure I feel that way about this year's unit.  Ever since they beat the 49ers, they haven't looked the same.  They were lucky to beat Dallas and Washington, and the Steelers came into their backyard and pushed them around.  Their defensive line has some real talent, but they have major issues at middle linebacker and safety postions.  Teams are running the ball at will on them.  Fortunately for the Giants, Marvin Lewis is an idiot and probably won't run the ball enough.    

    Needless to say, I just dont like the Giants chances of turning things around against an extremely desperate and underachieving Bengals team.  I think both their offense and rush defense will be better that it was last week, but I don't think it will be good enough to cover 4 on the road.  I could see this game coming down to a field goal. 

     

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    Sammy what are you doing brother?

    Here's my reasons I continue to support my Giants against this
    struggling Bengals defense.

    New York Giants are 3 for 3 on the road this year
    New York Giants 1 for 1 against teams with a losing record

    Cinci is 0 for 2 against a line of 3.5 to 9.5
    Cinci is 0 for 3 at home
    Cinci is 2 for 5 as an underdog

    Currently Andy Dalton is ranked dead last in the NFL on 3rd down
    conversions, this is not going to get any easier against a team
    like the Giants. I think the front 7 in New York are going to
    put to much pressure on Dalton's Bengals and he will turn the
    ball over at least twice in this game. Possibly a pick six is in order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    The Giants will always be my team, but I hate them in this matchup.  Maybe I'm just a glass half empty kind've guy, but I think the Bengals will put up points on this struggling Giant defense. 

    Cincy has been downright embarassing at home lately.  They are 1-3 at home losing to the Fish, Steelers, and most recently, the Denver Broncos.  Their sole home win coming against the Cleveland Browns, which was in week 2.  Its been 7 NFL weeks since the Bengals won a home game.  Cincy looked horribly flat vs the Fish, turning the ball over twice and losing a close one. Cincy had a chance to deliver a knock-out blow against a 2-3 Steeler team in week 6 and forgot to show up for that game. And they came out flat last week vs the Broncos even after they had a full bye week to prepare for Peyton.  They picked him off twice, but didn't really capitalize in the redzone going 2-4. 

    Now for those of you who kept track, that's 3 consecutive home games they've lost.  I find that downright unacceptable given that this was a playoff team last year. They have also been burning a hole in my wallet throughout the process.  Why should I back these bums again???

    Well in come the Super Bowl Champion / struggling Giants.  Eli and Justin Tuck will tell you themselves that they are not playing good football.  Normally, a trip away from MetLife Stadium would be just what the doctor ordered for the struggling Gmen.  I'm just not a 100% sure I feel that way about this year's unit.  Ever since they beat the 49ers, they haven't looked the same.  They were lucky to beat Dallas and Washington, and the Steelers came into their backyard and pushed them around.  Their defensive line has some real talent, but they have major issues at middle linebacker and safety postions.  Teams are running the ball at will on them.  Fortunately for the Giants, Marvin Lewis is an idiot and probably won't run the ball enough.    

    Needless to say, I just dont like the Giants chances of turning things around against an extremely desperate and underachieving Bengals team.  I think both their offense and rush defense will be better that it was last week, but I don't think it will be good enough to cover 4 on the road.  I could see this game coming down to a field goal. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 9:55 AM ET #17

    Bengals look like the better team
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    Bengals look like the better team
     
    TheQuadYeah
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 12:44 PM ET #18

    I'm giving The Red Rifle one more chance. If he would be able to throw against any secondary, this would be it. Otherwise - goodbye Marvin Lewis, it's been good to know you.

    Bungles +4

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    I'm giving The Red Rifle one more chance. If he would be able to throw against any secondary, this would be it. Otherwise - goodbye Marvin Lewis, it's been good to know you.

    Bungles +4

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 4:05 PM ET #19

    Taking the over on this.   Two very weak pass defenses. 
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    Taking the over on this.   Two very weak pass defenses. 
     
    Sammy_Ace
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 5:43 PM ET #20

    I'm just calling it like I see it buddy.  I love my Gmen, but I just don't like them laying 4 when they've been playing some pretty bad football of late.  They could have easily lost their last 3 games.  They have a somewhat comfortable lead in the NFC East and I think they'll win the division.  I just wouldn't be surprised if they dropped this game or won by a field goal.  I also hate the fact the Bengals have lost 3 straight at home.  The Bengals will be fired up for this one because everyone wants to knock off the Super Bowl champs, and I think getting them +4 is a decent value in this situation.   
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    I'm just calling it like I see it buddy.  I love my Gmen, but I just don't like them laying 4 when they've been playing some pretty bad football of late.  They could have easily lost their last 3 games.  They have a somewhat comfortable lead in the NFC East and I think they'll win the division.  I just wouldn't be surprised if they dropped this game or won by a field goal.  I also hate the fact the Bengals have lost 3 straight at home.  The Bengals will be fired up for this one because everyone wants to knock off the Super Bowl champs, and I think getting them +4 is a decent value in this situation.   
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 2:53 AM ET #21

    3 Reasons why I like the gmen:

    1-On the road again.

    2-Lost last week.

    3-Number 1 reason to take the gmen-Marvin Lewis is still coachig Cinci

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    3 Reasons why I like the gmen:

    1-On the road again.

    2-Lost last week.

    3-Number 1 reason to take the gmen-Marvin Lewis is still coachig Cinci

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 5:56 AM ET #22

    Giants are in the midst of their annual 3-4 game skid.. Gimmie the Bengals for $300.. Best of luck guys
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    Giants are in the midst of their annual 3-4 game skid.. Gimmie the Bengals for $300.. Best of luck guys
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 6:08 AM ET #23

    Giants have kinda struggled a little last three weeks but they still only lost by 4 last week. You gotta be nuts to take Cincy. This is the same giants team that crushed the niners at Candlestick.
    Eli will not have another bad performance this week. Giants by a TD or more.
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    Giants have kinda struggled a little last three weeks but they still only lost by 4 last week. You gotta be nuts to take Cincy. This is the same giants team that crushed the niners at Candlestick.
    Eli will not have another bad performance this week. Giants by a TD or more.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 8:46 AM ET #24

    Peyton ripped cincy last week with Eric decker.. Who? Eric decker.. Eli will call his brothers Peyton for pointer how to beat the cats.. I think Eli will do farely well .. Eli Cruz ... Nicks will have a big day on the road.. I don't see g men losing another game.. Giants-4
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    Peyton ripped cincy last week with Eric decker.. Who? Eric decker.. Eli will call his brothers Peyton for pointer how to beat the cats.. I think Eli will do farely well .. Eli Cruz ... Nicks will have a big day on the road.. I don't see g men losing another game.. Giants-4
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 11:37 AM ET #25

    Giants and Manning are simply weary of an offense that doesn't produce.....Today that changes. Today G-Men offense breaks out.
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    Giants and Manning are simply weary of an offense that doesn't produce.....Today that changes. Today G-Men offense breaks out.
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