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    New Orleans at Tampa Bay (10/17/2010)

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2010 - 1:21 AM ET #1

    Away:  New Orleans [1-4 ATS]
    Home:  Tampa Bay [3-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Raymond James Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (1410)
    Rushing: Pierre Thomas (147)
    Receiving: Marques Colston (287)

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (824)
    Rushing: Cadillac Williams (172)
    Receiving: Mike Williams (238)

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    Away:  New Orleans [1-4 ATS]
    Home:  Tampa Bay [3-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Raymond James Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (1410)
    Rushing: Pierre Thomas (147)
    Receiving: Marques Colston (287)

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (824)
    Rushing: Cadillac Williams (172)
    Receiving: Mike Williams (238)

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2010 - 1:48 AM ET #2

    The Saints will bounce back with a solid win this week agains the Bucs. Don't let the Bucs hot start fool you, they will not be in contention when its all said and done, and it will start with a loss to the Saints this week
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    The Saints will bounce back with a solid win this week agains the Bucs. Don't let the Bucs hot start fool you, they will not be in contention when its all said and done, and it will start with a loss to the Saints this week
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2010 - 1:55 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by dvugold:

    The Saints will bounce back with a solid win this week agains the Bucs. Don't let the Bucs hot start fool you, they will not be in contention when its all said and done, and it will start with a loss to the Saints this week

    Saints -5

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    AGREED.   but  u have to give a lil respect to the bucs though.  It may not be an easy cover, but saints -5 it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvugold:

    The Saints will bounce back with a solid win this week agains the Bucs. Don't let the Bucs hot start fool you, they will not be in contention when its all said and done, and it will start with a loss to the Saints this week

    Saints -5

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    AGREED.   but  u have to give a lil respect to the bucs though.  It may not be an easy cover, but saints -5 it is

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2010 - 3:05 AM ET #4

    Nice to see The Saints are still hugely overvalued and the Bucs still getting no respect.   I see no reason to not continue fading The Saints.  Brees hasn't been anything special this year and still no Pierre Thomas or Reggie Bush= No running game to help him out.  Another outdoor road game on grass.  Is this the game The Saints break out finally?  I don't think so. 
    Give me The Bucs and the Points. 

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    Nice to see The Saints are still hugely overvalued and the Bucs still getting no respect.   I see no reason to not continue fading The Saints.  Brees hasn't been anything special this year and still no Pierre Thomas or Reggie Bush= No running game to help him out.  Another outdoor road game on grass.  Is this the game The Saints break out finally?  I don't think so. 
    Give me The Bucs and the Points. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2010 - 10:27 PM ET #5

    Okay now you can take the Saints. The joes have baled out on them (as evidenced by Tampa getting 75% of the moneyline plays for this one) and now they get great value against a team that is coming off of a big road upset win. They may very well win this one by two touchdowns. The Bucs aren't used to success yet. Wait for the line to decrease and lay the wood. Divisional underdogs are 20-5 ATS on the year, but it won't help this time. I mean the Saints ain't gonna lose two in a row 

    Saints-any number you can come up with

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    Okay now you can take the Saints. The joes have baled out on them (as evidenced by Tampa getting 75% of the moneyline plays for this one) and now they get great value against a team that is coming off of a big road upset win. They may very well win this one by two touchdowns. The Bucs aren't used to success yet. Wait for the line to decrease and lay the wood. Divisional underdogs are 20-5 ATS on the year, but it won't help this time. I mean the Saints ain't gonna lose two in a row 

    Saints-any number you can come up with

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2010 - 10:30 PM ET #6

    New Orleans is in a whole bunch of disarray at the moment. I'm going to continue to echo that this isn't the same team as it was a year ago. 

    NO is 1-4 ATS this season and 0-2 on the road (First against an 0-5 SF team and then last weekend against a 3-2 brutal Ari team).

    This team can't get it going and now you expect me to take them on the road again against a young win-hungry divisional foe? It's going to take a lot of time to get Tampa back to the top, but for now this team has been impressive when you compare them to where everyone ranked them pre-season.

    I'll take Tampa and those 5 points please.
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    New Orleans is in a whole bunch of disarray at the moment. I'm going to continue to echo that this isn't the same team as it was a year ago. 

    NO is 1-4 ATS this season and 0-2 on the road (First against an 0-5 SF team and then last weekend against a 3-2 brutal Ari team).

    This team can't get it going and now you expect me to take them on the road again against a young win-hungry divisional foe? It's going to take a lot of time to get Tampa back to the top, but for now this team has been impressive when you compare them to where everyone ranked them pre-season.

    I'll take Tampa and those 5 points please.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2010 - 11:07 PM ET #7

    As I said before, Bucs like to grind out games and I'll take +5 BUCS at home against The Saints 

    BuckS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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    As I said before, Bucs like to grind out games and I'll take +5 BUCS at home against The Saints 

    BuckS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2010 - 4:26 PM ET #8

    new orleans bounce back and get a W
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    new orleans bounce back and get a W
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2010 - 8:47 PM ET #9

      See Saints gut out a close win & cover

    NEW ORLEANS   - 4

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      See Saints gut out a close win & cover

    NEW ORLEANS   - 4

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2010 - 9:39 PM ET #10

    just what the doctor ordered in this voodo or die bayou matchup. when the saints come marching. new orleans 34 - 13
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    just what the doctor ordered in this voodo or die bayou matchup. when the saints come marching. new orleans 34 - 13
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2010 - 10:32 PM ET #11

    I LOVE the TB Buccs in this situation...


    at home...

    out of the dome...

    NO running backs are fumbling the ball like crazy....

    Brees' ypc are atroucious...

    if you take out last years whipping during the Saints (out of body experience-run-last-season)

    then you'll notice that TB at home has NO's number...

    I do also believe that Freeman & Co. beat the Saints in the superdome...

    I'll take 5 thannnnnnnnk you!
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    I LOVE the TB Buccs in this situation...


    at home...

    out of the dome...

    NO running backs are fumbling the ball like crazy....

    Brees' ypc are atroucious...

    if you take out last years whipping during the Saints (out of body experience-run-last-season)

    then you'll notice that TB at home has NO's number...

    I do also believe that Freeman & Co. beat the Saints in the superdome...

    I'll take 5 thannnnnnnnk you!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2010 - 1:46 AM ET #12

    I am changing my play. I don't want to wait around that long for my bread. Going to hit it hard capitalizing on the Saints explosive offense EARLY and make some money before the coals turn white. 

    Saints- .5 1st quarter

    Saints-3 1st half 

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    I am changing my play. I don't want to wait around that long for my bread. Going to hit it hard capitalizing on the Saints explosive offense EARLY and make some money before the coals turn white. 

    Saints- .5 1st quarter

    Saints-3 1st half 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2010 - 8:03 AM ET #13

    NO here. Large. 

     

    Tampa beat Cincy (who lost to Cleveland), Cleveland and Carolina (ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ)  Nice story if your a tampa because you probably expected to be 1-3, but it ends this weekend.

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    NO here. Large. 

     

    Tampa beat Cincy (who lost to Cleveland), Cleveland and Carolina (ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ)  Nice story if your a tampa because you probably expected to be 1-3, but it ends this weekend.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by livie:

    NO here. Large. 

     

    Tampa beat Cincy (who lost to Cleveland), Cleveland and Carolina (ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ)  Nice story if your a tampa because you probably expected to be 1-3, but it ends this weekend.



    What is your argument here?  New Orleans has beat the 1-3 Vikings, the 0-5 49ers and those same Carolina Panthers.  You wanna talk about ZZZZZZZZZZ.  New Orleans is still vastly overrated. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by livie:

    NO here. Large. 

     

    Tampa beat Cincy (who lost to Cleveland), Cleveland and Carolina (ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ)  Nice story if your a tampa because you probably expected to be 1-3, but it ends this weekend.



    What is your argument here?  New Orleans has beat the 1-3 Vikings, the 0-5 49ers and those same Carolina Panthers.  You wanna talk about ZZZZZZZZZZ.  New Orleans is still vastly overrated. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2010 - 3:26 PM ET #15

    my thought is N.O. marched into arizona with the we're gonna beat 'em without having to play attitude.WRONG!!!now having learned their lesson,they might have new respect for teams considered walk overs.even though the stats don't line up for N.O. i've got to think they'll be a little more aware of who/where they are,and even on the road/outside on grass will play a lot more focused.they sure don't want to get bitch slapped twice in a row.gotta roll with N.O. here,not sure yet on the total.....luck all...T 
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    my thought is N.O. marched into arizona with the we're gonna beat 'em without having to play attitude.WRONG!!!now having learned their lesson,they might have new respect for teams considered walk overs.even though the stats don't line up for N.O. i've got to think they'll be a little more aware of who/where they are,and even on the road/outside on grass will play a lot more focused.they sure don't want to get bitch slapped twice in a row.gotta roll with N.O. here,not sure yet on the total.....luck all...T 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2010 - 4:47 PM ET #16

    taking over 43.5 gl

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    taking over 43.5 gl

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 12:05 AM ET #17

    so is everyone ready for some valid info on one of these posts instead of "saints -5" or "TB all the way" type posts?  Come on guys.  Share something worth sharing or get back on the couch.

    Reggie Bush - Did not Practice

    Pierre Thomas - Did not Practice

    Tracy Porter CB - Did not Practice

    Randall Gay CB - Did not Practice

    Roman Harper S - Limited Participation

    Scott Shanle LB - Limited Participation

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    Porter, Gay, Harper, Smith all very big names on Saints Defense.  Saints offense is not gonna miss bush/thomas MUCH.  The backup RBs CAN RUN. 

    Intact, Powerful Saints OFFENSE / Poor, very weakened Saints DEFENSE

    -------47 OR MORE POINTS IN THIS GAME-------

    ----------------------OVER-----------------------

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    so is everyone ready for some valid info on one of these posts instead of "saints -5" or "TB all the way" type posts?  Come on guys.  Share something worth sharing or get back on the couch.

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    Porter, Gay, Harper, Smith all very big names on Saints Defense.  Saints offense is not gonna miss bush/thomas MUCH.  The backup RBs CAN RUN. 

    Intact, Powerful Saints OFFENSE / Poor, very weakened Saints DEFENSE

    -------47 OR MORE POINTS IN THIS GAME-------

    ----------------------OVER-----------------------

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 12:09 AM ET #18

    Almost forgot.......Sunny and 75 degrees for game time.
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    Almost forgot.......Sunny and 75 degrees for game time.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 12:20 AM ET #19

    Closer to 85 actually.  HOT.  Nice soft ball and tired D.  ;)
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    Closer to 85 actually.  HOT.  Nice soft ball and tired D.  ;)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 2:52 AM ET #20

    great value on the still underestimated bucs.  They control the ball and limit their turnovers better than the saints and the bucs defensive weakness is against the run, something that the saints paltry run game will struggle to exploit.  There's just too much different from last year for the saints to be laying spreads like this against teams that are doing well this year.

    TB +4.5
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    great value on the still underestimated bucs.  They control the ball and limit their turnovers better than the saints and the bucs defensive weakness is against the run, something that the saints paltry run game will struggle to exploit.  There's just too much different from last year for the saints to be laying spreads like this against teams that are doing well this year.

    TB +4.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 3:34 AM ET #21

    TB +4.5: Bucs have fewer penalty yards than Saints, slightly fewer turnover (7-9), and better HOG index numbers.  Time of possession per game slightly favors the Saints but i'll take the points  with a young/talented defense at home in division game.
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    TB +4.5: Bucs have fewer penalty yards than Saints, slightly fewer turnover (7-9), and better HOG index numbers.  Time of possession per game slightly favors the Saints but i'll take the points  with a young/talented defense at home in division game.
     
    tuttleberry
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 12:56 PM ET #22

    TB played so bad against Pitt in the one game that they lost. There were 2 TD's and maybe another FG that resulted from wacky plays going against them. That Pitt game could actually have been a close game in the 4th quarter.

    TB +4.5 here, all the way. New Orleans can't seem to lower the hammer on anyone this season.
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    TB played so bad against Pitt in the one game that they lost. There were 2 TD's and maybe another FG that resulted from wacky plays going against them. That Pitt game could actually have been a close game in the 4th quarter.

    TB +4.5 here, all the way. New Orleans can't seem to lower the hammer on anyone this season.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 5:28 PM ET #23

    Vegas wants you to take the points. Tampa is ahead of the Saints in their division at home and the Saints are giving the points. Now that the Saints see how mediocre they're becoming, it's time to lay the hammer down. I know the Saints defense is beat up but Patrick Robinson is on his way to becoming a star in this league!
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    Vegas wants you to take the points. Tampa is ahead of the Saints in their division at home and the Saints are giving the points. Now that the Saints see how mediocre they're becoming, it's time to lay the hammer down. I know the Saints defense is beat up but Patrick Robinson is on his way to becoming a star in this league!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2010 - 6:21 PM ET #24

    Jeff Faine is out.  Backup Zuttah making his 1st NFL start at center.  That scares me.  You know what doesn't scare me so much?  The Bucs D-Line.  I've noticed they're not that threatening and maybe this is a spot where Saints can finally get a balanced offensive attack going.  Also:  revenge game for Saints since Bucs were able to come back from an ass-whipping late last year in New Orleans to win the game. Saints know they need to keep up with the ATL.  Now too much of the public has fell in love with the Bucs and although i do like where Tampa Bay is going, I'm a realist and i know they arent going to the playoffs.

    I think with the spread droppin to 4, the value is with the defending Super Bowl champs.

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    Jeff Faine is out.  Backup Zuttah making his 1st NFL start at center.  That scares me.  You know what doesn't scare me so much?  The Bucs D-Line.  I've noticed they're not that threatening and maybe this is a spot where Saints can finally get a balanced offensive attack going.  Also:  revenge game for Saints since Bucs were able to come back from an ass-whipping late last year in New Orleans to win the game. Saints know they need to keep up with the ATL.  Now too much of the public has fell in love with the Bucs and although i do like where Tampa Bay is going, I'm a realist and i know they arent going to the playoffs.

    I think with the spread droppin to 4, the value is with the defending Super Bowl champs.

     
     
    kcnvegas25
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2010 - 3:56 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      See Saints gut out a close win & cover

    NEW ORLEANS   - 4

    im with ya. the only difference is i think they'll blow them out by 14+.... love the mini. gl all

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      See Saints gut out a close win & cover

    NEW ORLEANS   - 4

    im with ya. the only difference is i think they'll blow them out by 14+.... love the mini. gl all

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