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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:36 AM ET #26

    Upset special of the week. Miami +6. They could even pull of the win. The Saints are still an AMAZING team. But, only two teams in the history NFL have ever one all of their regular season games. Don't forget that. Also, don't forget the game they gave the Colts. 239 rushing yards? Holy cow!
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    Upset special of the week. Miami +6. They could even pull of the win. The Saints are still an AMAZING team. But, only two teams in the history NFL have ever one all of their regular season games. Don't forget that. Also, don't forget the game they gave the Colts. 239 rushing yards? Holy cow!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 6:17 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by rinconen:

    Upset special of the week. Miami +6. They could even pull of the win. The Saints are still an AMAZING team. But, only two teams in the history NFL have ever one all of their regular season games. Don't forget that. Also, don't forget the game they gave the Colts. 239 rushing yards? Holy cow!


    There has been more than 2 teams with undefeated reg. seasons.

    • 1.1 National Football League (1970–Present)
      • 1.1.1 The Perfect Season
        • 1.1.1.1 1972 Miami Dolphins (perfect regular season, playoffs and Super Bowl championship)
      • 1.1.2 Perfect regular season
        • 1.1.2.1 2007 New England Patriots (perfect regular season and playoffs. Super Bowl loss.)
    • 1.2 Pre-modern era (pre 1970) NFL perfect seasons
      • 1.2.1 1934 Chicago Bears
      • 1.2.2 1942 Chicago Bears
      • 1.2.3 1948 Cleveland Browns
      • 1.2.4 1937 Los Angeles Bulldogs
    The NFL pushes that 2 team myth because they marketing the SB, they want you to think that before SBs there were no championship games, but there were.

    I think a upset is likely because Saints are out of the dome, on the road and have a big head after only playing 5 games. Could be looking ahead to the Falcons too.

    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rinconen:

    Upset special of the week. Miami +6. They could even pull of the win. The Saints are still an AMAZING team. But, only two teams in the history NFL have ever one all of their regular season games. Don't forget that. Also, don't forget the game they gave the Colts. 239 rushing yards? Holy cow!


    There has been more than 2 teams with undefeated reg. seasons.

    • 1.1 National Football League (1970–Present)
      • 1.1.1 The Perfect Season
        • 1.1.1.1 1972 Miami Dolphins (perfect regular season, playoffs and Super Bowl championship)
      • 1.1.2 Perfect regular season
        • 1.1.2.1 2007 New England Patriots (perfect regular season and playoffs. Super Bowl loss.)
    • 1.2 Pre-modern era (pre 1970) NFL perfect seasons
      • 1.2.1 1934 Chicago Bears
      • 1.2.2 1942 Chicago Bears
      • 1.2.3 1948 Cleveland Browns
      • 1.2.4 1937 Los Angeles Bulldogs
    The NFL pushes that 2 team myth because they marketing the SB, they want you to think that before SBs there were no championship games, but there were.

    I think a upset is likely because Saints are out of the dome, on the road and have a big head after only playing 5 games. Could be looking ahead to the Falcons too.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 6:23 AM ET #28

    Only a thought...only...is truely Brees better of Peyton? (no stats to see on the runD because the WildCat is a special game, no simple run call so each team have difficult, also good runD) the answer is in the line...
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    Only a thought...only...is truely Brees better of Peyton? (no stats to see on the runD because the WildCat is a special game, no simple run call so each team have difficult, also good runD) the answer is in the line...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 9:37 AM ET #29

    It is far enough into the season where teams are starting to recognize things watching game film.  Parcells's Fins will be prepared for this game and YES the wildcat (the one play from film you probably can't counter) will be effective...it always is.  Saints win, but Fins cover.

    Saints - 34

    Fins - 30

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    It is far enough into the season where teams are starting to recognize things watching game film.  Parcells's Fins will be prepared for this game and YES the wildcat (the one play from film you probably can't counter) will be effective...it always is.  Saints win, but Fins cover.

    Saints - 34

    Fins - 30

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 10:35 AM ET #30

    Everyone will be jumping on the Saints sending me toward Miami.  I have watched the Dolphins a lot this year and there running game is a beast.  The defense gets up for big games at home and w/ a win they are back in the divisional race.  They kept Peyton off the field and can do the same against Brees. Love Ronnie and Ricky together.

    Small Play Party in Miami!

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    Everyone will be jumping on the Saints sending me toward Miami.  I have watched the Dolphins a lot this year and there running game is a beast.  The defense gets up for big games at home and w/ a win they are back in the divisional race.  They kept Peyton off the field and can do the same against Brees. Love Ronnie and Ricky together.

    Small Play Party in Miami!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:07 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    This game maybe similar to when NO went up to Buffalo and won. A hard defensive/running game driven game. I'll take the points and possible Under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    This game maybe similar to when NO went up to Buffalo and won. A hard defensive/running game driven game. I'll take the points and possible Under.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:55 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

    Is it a trap game? I hate to say  it but no team has stopped this wildcat offense. I don't think that Chad Henne will light it up, but then again look at what he did to the Jets.

    Not true. The Falcons held the wildcat to 96 rushing yards week 1. Miami is a clock controlling team. If New Orleans can go out and score early and often and force Miami to throw then this game won't be close. New Orleans is clicking on both sides of the ball and have finally found a strong running game to go with their high powered passing attack. I think it will be too much for the phins.

    SAINTS -6

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

    Is it a trap game? I hate to say  it but no team has stopped this wildcat offense. I don't think that Chad Henne will light it up, but then again look at what he did to the Jets.

    Not true. The Falcons held the wildcat to 96 rushing yards week 1. Miami is a clock controlling team. If New Orleans can go out and score early and often and force Miami to throw then this game won't be close. New Orleans is clicking on both sides of the ball and have finally found a strong running game to go with their high powered passing attack. I think it will be too much for the phins.

    SAINTS -6

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 6:07 PM ET #33

    FINS   ML   +230
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    FINS   ML   +230
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 9:35 PM ET #34

    miami's secondary sucks and the only thing that scares me is vegas is rarely wrong. Giants went into last weeks game ranking #1 in defense in the NFC and got smoked, I have NEVER seen a offenseive display like NO put on last week, and am betting the house on the saints. Hope my kid likes to live in a tent. I just felt a cool breeze
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    miami's secondary sucks and the only thing that scares me is vegas is rarely wrong. Giants went into last weeks game ranking #1 in defense in the NFC and got smoked, I have NEVER seen a offenseive display like NO put on last week, and am betting the house on the saints. Hope my kid likes to live in a tent. I just felt a cool breeze
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 9:45 PM ET #35

        Miami is deserving of all the props it gets, as they are starting to play respectable ball. Whenever the 'Fins score 30 points or more, they've covered every time in their next game. Right now, they're about as talented as the Giants. HOWEVER, that being said- just like the G-Men, they bring nothing to the table against the Saints. Forget the Wildcat. Sooner or later, some team will devise a defense against it. This is the NFL, not NCAAF. This year's Saints play very decent D.  For all the Saints care, they'll let Miami have all the 5 to 8 yard runs every down. Then just like Indy, fly down the field in 2 plays!  Take some educated advice- lay off the game or make a small wager on NO to cover at 6.5 and under!!!
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        Miami is deserving of all the props it gets, as they are starting to play respectable ball. Whenever the 'Fins score 30 points or more, they've covered every time in their next game. Right now, they're about as talented as the Giants. HOWEVER, that being said- just like the G-Men, they bring nothing to the table against the Saints. Forget the Wildcat. Sooner or later, some team will devise a defense against it. This is the NFL, not NCAAF. This year's Saints play very decent D.  For all the Saints care, they'll let Miami have all the 5 to 8 yard runs every down. Then just like Indy, fly down the field in 2 plays!  Take some educated advice- lay off the game or make a small wager on NO to cover at 6.5 and under!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 10:36 AM ET #36

    New Orleans anything under 10.   They are the Pats of 2007.  I see a score like 31-13.  Henne is a good QB but he is not playing the Ohio State Buckeyes this Sunday.  The Saints are the real deal they man handled the Giants last week that wasn't even a game.
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    New Orleans anything under 10.   They are the Pats of 2007.  I see a score like 31-13.  Henne is a good QB but he is not playing the Ohio State Buckeyes this Sunday.  The Saints are the real deal they man handled the Giants last week that wasn't even a game.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 10:43 AM ET #37

    is this trap well no is a perfect line for public guessing.. i was pretty upset when i saw this match up. miami are good for pulling upset win against good team. probably #1 talking about upset. miami just came off an bye so they are sure aware of no wat they against.  saint is not like pat when go undefeated. pat d is better even till now. if i got to bet this game . i would say on miami.
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    is this trap well no is a perfect line for public guessing.. i was pretty upset when i saw this match up. miami are good for pulling upset win against good team. probably #1 talking about upset. miami just came off an bye so they are sure aware of no wat they against.  saint is not like pat when go undefeated. pat d is better even till now. if i got to bet this game . i would say on miami.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 11:00 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by cmale123:

    is this trap well no is a perfect line for public guessing.. i was pretty upset when i saw this match up. miami are good for pulling upset win against good team. probably #1 talking about upset. miami just came off an bye so they are sure aware of no wat they against.  saint is not like pat when go undefeated. pat d is better even till now. if i got to bet this game . i would say on miami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmale123:

    is this trap well no is a perfect line for public guessing.. i was pretty upset when i saw this match up. miami are good for pulling upset win against good team. probably #1 talking about upset. miami just came off an bye so they are sure aware of no wat they against.  saint is not like pat when go undefeated. pat d is better even till now. if i got to bet this game . i would say on miami.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 11:13 AM ET #39

    I'm a huge Saints fan (born in New Orleans) and have been riding them all year winning each week. I also have them at 21-1 to win the Super Bowl. That being said, I think they will lay an egg this weekend. Miami has had there number winning 5 out of the last 6 all AT NEW ORLEANS.  NO also has 3 division games coming up in the next 4 weeks. Take the Phins plus the points. Miami may not win but will cover.
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    I'm a huge Saints fan (born in New Orleans) and have been riding them all year winning each week. I also have them at 21-1 to win the Super Bowl. That being said, I think they will lay an egg this weekend. Miami has had there number winning 5 out of the last 6 all AT NEW ORLEANS.  NO also has 3 division games coming up in the next 4 weeks. Take the Phins plus the points. Miami may not win but will cover.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 1:26 PM ET #40

    i like NO here

    i've been riding them all year so why stop now

    i'll take NO to cover

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    i like NO here

    i've been riding them all year so why stop now

    i'll take NO to cover

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 5:41 PM ET #41

    i hope your post is rhetorical...but good luck either way...

     

    Quote Originally Posted by tileman999:

    miami's secondary sucks and the only thing that scares me is vegas is rarely wrong. Giants went into last weeks game ranking #1 in defense in the NFC and got smoked, I have NEVER seen a offenseive display like NO put on last week, and am betting the house on the saints. Hope my kid likes to live in a tent. I just felt a cool breeze

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    i hope your post is rhetorical...but good luck either way...

     

    Quote Originally Posted by tileman999:

    miami's secondary sucks and the only thing that scares me is vegas is rarely wrong. Giants went into last weeks game ranking #1 in defense in the NFC and got smoked, I have NEVER seen a offenseive display like NO put on last week, and am betting the house on the saints. Hope my kid likes to live in a tent. I just felt a cool breeze

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 9:06 PM ET #42

    Saints have a good defense too, plus a good offense is a good defense.   Saints seem to have it all.  Not far travel, grass?, dont think it will matter, Saints look good
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    Saints have a good defense too, plus a good offense is a good defense.   Saints seem to have it all.  Not far travel, grass?, dont think it will matter, Saints look good
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 1:18 AM ET #43

    Miami +7
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    Miami +7
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 2:18 AM ET #44

    i really thought that the lines would have moved already. 
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    i really thought that the lines would have moved already. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 6:12 AM ET #45

    don't know if this is right, but heard on local radio that new orleans has never won in miami? miami off a bye and saints off a massacre...

     

    miami + 6      btw not a homer , i hate the dolphins with a passion( see u in new york next week)

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    don't know if this is right, but heard on local radio that new orleans has never won in miami? miami off a bye and saints off a massacre...

     

    miami + 6      btw not a homer , i hate the dolphins with a passion( see u in new york next week)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 7:50 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by luisgnava:

    this game is in london right??? so both teams are in an away postion... ride new orleans... -6

    Where did you get London from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgnava:

    this game is in london right??? so both teams are in an away postion... ride new orleans... -6

    Where did you get London from?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 8:06 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    New Orleans anything under 10.   They are the Pats of 2007.  I see a score like 31-13.  Henne is a good QB but he is not playing the Ohio State Buckeyes this Sunday.  The Saints are the real deal they man handled the Giants last week that wasn't even a game.

    Henne showed some streaks of talent against the Jets, but he had much trouble when playing the Buckeyes as have most QB's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    New Orleans anything under 10.   They are the Pats of 2007.  I see a score like 31-13.  Henne is a good QB but he is not playing the Ohio State Buckeyes this Sunday.  The Saints are the real deal they man handled the Giants last week that wasn't even a game.

    Henne showed some streaks of talent against the Jets, but he had much trouble when playing the Buckeyes as have most QB's.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 10:16 AM ET #48

    BEING A HUGE SAINTS FAN, I'M BASKING IN THE GLORY OF WINNING,PROBABLE RAIN IN MIAMI, WHICH MEANS FINS WILL RUN THE SHIT OUT OF THE BALL. IF SAINTS SCORE A BUNCH POINTS EARLY, LOOKOUT! ESPECIALLY IF RAIN STOPS, BREES WILL FIRE UP THIER SECONDARY,  

    WHO DATS 28-17              

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    BEING A HUGE SAINTS FAN, I'M BASKING IN THE GLORY OF WINNING,PROBABLE RAIN IN MIAMI, WHICH MEANS FINS WILL RUN THE SHIT OUT OF THE BALL. IF SAINTS SCORE A BUNCH POINTS EARLY, LOOKOUT! ESPECIALLY IF RAIN STOPS, BREES WILL FIRE UP THIER SECONDARY,  

    WHO DATS 28-17              

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 10:33 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by dwbl3:

    I'm a huge Saints fan (born in New Orleans) and have been riding them all year winning each week. I also have them at 21-1 to win the Super Bowl. That being said, I think they will lay an egg this weekend. Miami has had there number winning 5 out of the last 6 all AT NEW ORLEANS.  NO also has 3 division games coming up in the next 4 weeks. Take the Phins plus the points. Miami may not win but will cover.


    While this information may be true, you might want to point out that the last time these teams met was 4 years ago, in 2005.

    I still think MIA +pts. might be a decent play here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwbl3:

    I'm a huge Saints fan (born in New Orleans) and have been riding them all year winning each week. I also have them at 21-1 to win the Super Bowl. That being said, I think they will lay an egg this weekend. Miami has had there number winning 5 out of the last 6 all AT NEW ORLEANS.  NO also has 3 division games coming up in the next 4 weeks. Take the Phins plus the points. Miami may not win but will cover.


    While this information may be true, you might want to point out that the last time these teams met was 4 years ago, in 2005.

    I still think MIA +pts. might be a decent play here.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2009 - 11:00 AM ET #50

    CAN THE SAINTS OVERCOME THE WILD CAT OFFENSE? THEY HAVE THE DEFFENSE THIS YEAR TO DO IT WITH DEFFENSE CORDINATOR WILLIAMS IN THE BOOTH! 

    TAKE THE SAINTS -6 THEY HAVE BEEN COVERING!

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    CAN THE SAINTS OVERCOME THE WILD CAT OFFENSE? THEY HAVE THE DEFFENSE THIS YEAR TO DO IT WITH DEFFENSE CORDINATOR WILLIAMS IN THE BOOTH! 

    TAKE THE SAINTS -6 THEY HAVE BEEN COVERING!

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