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    New England at Philadelphia (08/13/2009)

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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2009 - 8:51 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [0-0 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [0-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 7:30 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

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    Away:  New England [0-0 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [0-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 7:30 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2009 - 12:47 PM ET #2

    RIP Jim Johnson you were one of the best.....you will be missed.   Eagles win this one for JJ
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    RIP Jim Johnson you were one of the best.....you will be missed.   Eagles win this one for JJ
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2009 - 5:03 PM ET #3

    One of my favorite coaches of all time.......Jim Johnson helped make the Eagles one of the most feared defenses in the league over the last decade.  If you had a quarterback without any mobility, it was going to be a long day for you if you coundn't run. 
     
    I like the Eagles here with Macklin, McCoy and Kolb on the field for most of the second and third quarters.  I think they present problems for the second and third stringers from NE.  Brady and the boys will lead by the half, Philly will win a close, low scoring game at the end.  17-14.  Something like that.  I also like the (U).  I would probably take Philly in the outright win over the under though.  It could blow up early with all the playmakers on the field in the first 15 minutes.......but it's the first game for both teams......I doubt that will be the case. 
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    One of my favorite coaches of all time.......Jim Johnson helped make the Eagles one of the most feared defenses in the league over the last decade.  If you had a quarterback without any mobility, it was going to be a long day for you if you coundn't run. 
     
    I like the Eagles here with Macklin, McCoy and Kolb on the field for most of the second and third quarters.  I think they present problems for the second and third stringers from NE.  Brady and the boys will lead by the half, Philly will win a close, low scoring game at the end.  17-14.  Something like that.  I also like the (U).  I would probably take Philly in the outright win over the under though.  It could blow up early with all the playmakers on the field in the first 15 minutes.......but it's the first game for both teams......I doubt that will be the case. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 1:38 PM ET #4

    gotta go w/philly/un.going un all pre long,see how it works out.philly wins for J.J. here!
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    gotta go w/philly/un.going un all pre long,see how it works out.philly wins for J.J. here!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 5:30 AM ET #5

    run game vs passing game
    who wins?

    phi
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    run game vs passing game
    who wins?

    phi
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 8:24 PM ET #6

    OK maybe I was too quick to call an Eagle victory here. Looking at how these two coaches approach the pre-season makes me think, that regardless of what happened Belichick takes these games more seriously than Reid. New England wins this one SU.
     
    New England - 23                      Philadelphia - 13
    Patriots +3                             over 35
     
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    OK maybe I was too quick to call an Eagle victory here. Looking at how these two coaches approach the pre-season makes me think, that regardless of what happened Belichick takes these games more seriously than Reid. New England wins this one SU.
     
    New England - 23                      Philadelphia - 13
    Patriots +3                             over 35
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 8:31 PM ET #7

    Brady Is Back! Pats go to Miami for the Super Bowl again this year!
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    Brady Is Back! Pats go to Miami for the Super Bowl again this year!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 6:13 PM ET #8

    lots of injuries in phillies camp,starting to wonder???????????????/
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    lots of injuries in phillies camp,starting to wonder???????????????/
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 11:16 PM ET #9

     EAGLES -3.5
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     EAGLES -3.5
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 3:59 PM ET #10

    Eagles Players are getting hurt during practice. That is why line went down to -3 . Might just make this a small play on the Eagles

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    Eagles Players are getting hurt during practice. That is why line went down to -3 . Might just make this a small play on the Eagles

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 3:47 PM ET #11

    Reid cares nothing about he preseason, plus the injuries.
     
    +3 Pats. Brady wants to show something to the naysayers.
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    Reid cares nothing about he preseason, plus the injuries.
     
    +3 Pats. Brady wants to show something to the naysayers.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 4:29 PM ET #12

    WOW!  THEGREEK sportsbook: PATS+3 (-130)

    They must really don't want people to bet on the PATS.

    30% JUICE ON A PRESEASON GAME?!!
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    WOW!  THEGREEK sportsbook: PATS+3 (-130)

    They must really don't want people to bet on the PATS.

    30% JUICE ON A PRESEASON GAME?!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 5:26 PM ET #13

    Under 33
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    Under 33
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 11:55 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Brady Is Back! Pats go to Miami for the Super Bowl again this year!

    Good to see ya back for pigskin fever!

    I teased the Titans +3 and Bills and the over last week and won while others pushed so it's New England teased with the under here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Brady Is Back! Pats go to Miami for the Super Bowl again this year!

    Good to see ya back for pigskin fever!

    I teased the Titans +3 and Bills and the over last week and won while others pushed so it's New England teased with the under here.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 12:02 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    RIP Jim Johnson you were one of the best.....you will be missed.   Eagles win this one for JJ

    Was a shock to hear this and there's no doubt he was the commander in chief of that stiff D....made it what it was for yrs. I wonder if the Eagles D steps it up even in preseason. I like the under here anyway so I think a tease on either team and the under should cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    RIP Jim Johnson you were one of the best.....you will be missed.   Eagles win this one for JJ

    Was a shock to hear this and there's no doubt he was the commander in chief of that stiff D....made it what it was for yrs. I wonder if the Eagles D steps it up even in preseason. I like the under here anyway so I think a tease on either team and the under should cover.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 12:25 AM ET #16

    Under 33
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    I wouldn't pick either team. It's 2 good teams in pre season.  Take the over
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    Under 33
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    I wouldn't pick either team. It's 2 good teams in pre season.  Take the over
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 1:24 AM ET #17

    its my first time posting.  i think most of these game will be over, and i like this game to be over gluck too all  respect all ya'alls pick
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    its my first time posting.  i think most of these game will be over, and i like this game to be over gluck too all  respect all ya'alls pick
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 1:57 AM ET #18

    NE +3 is the play here.

    Reid doesn't give a shit about pre-season, especially the first game as he typically uses the first game to gain film footage on his players.  Eagles are banged up all over the place and will be looking not to do anymore injury damage to themselves.  Kolb will not play leaving the Eagles with Feeley and nobody.  The Pats will give Brady some time to figure it out and then he will be replaced by two pre-season veterans in O'Connell and Walter.  O'Connell has massive kudos from the NE coaching staff and Walter used to start for the Raiders.  They should tear up any scrubs Reid puts in there for film purposes.

    Bellichek wants to get off on a winning foot after the bitter ending to last season and he will want to win this one.

    NE +3 is the play.
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    NE +3 is the play here.

    Reid doesn't give a shit about pre-season, especially the first game as he typically uses the first game to gain film footage on his players.  Eagles are banged up all over the place and will be looking not to do anymore injury damage to themselves.  Kolb will not play leaving the Eagles with Feeley and nobody.  The Pats will give Brady some time to figure it out and then he will be replaced by two pre-season veterans in O'Connell and Walter.  O'Connell has massive kudos from the NE coaching staff and Walter used to start for the Raiders.  They should tear up any scrubs Reid puts in there for film purposes.

    Bellichek wants to get off on a winning foot after the bitter ending to last season and he will want to win this one.

    NE +3 is the play.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 7:43 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye61:

    Was a shock to hear this and there's no doubt he was the commander in chief of that stiff D....made it what it was for yrs. I wonder if the Eagles D steps it up even in preseason. I like the under here anyway so I think a tease on either team and the under should cover.

    If the Eagles were playing any other team I would be taking the Eagles. Playing the over, well that's risky especially in a pre-season game. GL buckeye. Beware of those ruthless Patriots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye61:

    Was a shock to hear this and there's no doubt he was the commander in chief of that stiff D....made it what it was for yrs. I wonder if the Eagles D steps it up even in preseason. I like the under here anyway so I think a tease on either team and the under should cover.

    If the Eagles were playing any other team I would be taking the Eagles. Playing the over, well that's risky especially in a pre-season game. GL buckeye. Beware of those ruthless Patriots.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    OK maybe I was too quick to call an Eagle victory here. Looking at how these two coaches approach the pre-season makes me think, that regardless of what happened Belichick takes these games more seriously than Reid. New England wins this one SU.
     
    New England - 23                      Philadelphia - 13
    Patriots +3                             over 35
     
    Your right on, COL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    OK maybe I was too quick to call an Eagle victory here. Looking at how these two coaches approach the pre-season makes me think, that regardless of what happened Belichick takes these games more seriously than Reid. New England wins this one SU.
     
    New England - 23                      Philadelphia - 13
    Patriots +3                             over 35
     
    Your right on, COL
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 12:14 PM ET #21

    This is my bet for this game:
     
    New England +3 -125 --- I dont think PHI is going to score a TD on the first series, and with the Eagles O-line and HB banged up the way they are, I dont think they score more then 10 points tonight...For NE, this is Brady's first game back...I think he see's at least two series before they pull him...After that, theres O'connell and Guttieriez, and in my opinion, I would rather have them finsihing the 2/3/4 quarters then what PHI has... I think the players on NE are going to play harder tonight then PHI. Reid doesnt really care about winning Pre-season games, and his players know that...Theres just something about the Patriots that when you put on that uniform, there really a no nonsense team...And they expect perfection...Now, im not saying PHI doesnt, but i do think the NE shows up, and so do there 2nd/3rd stringers...and they play harder then PHI guys do.
     
    Now, I could be wrong with every thing I just said, or I could get screwed by some idiot taking a safety in the last 8 seconds, but I think NE takes care of business...
     
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    This is my bet for this game:
     
    New England +3 -125 --- I dont think PHI is going to score a TD on the first series, and with the Eagles O-line and HB banged up the way they are, I dont think they score more then 10 points tonight...For NE, this is Brady's first game back...I think he see's at least two series before they pull him...After that, theres O'connell and Guttieriez, and in my opinion, I would rather have them finsihing the 2/3/4 quarters then what PHI has... I think the players on NE are going to play harder tonight then PHI. Reid doesnt really care about winning Pre-season games, and his players know that...Theres just something about the Patriots that when you put on that uniform, there really a no nonsense team...And they expect perfection...Now, im not saying PHI doesnt, but i do think the NE shows up, and so do there 2nd/3rd stringers...and they play harder then PHI guys do.
     
    Now, I could be wrong with every thing I just said, or I could get screwed by some idiot taking a safety in the last 8 seconds, but I think NE takes care of business...
     
    GL
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 12:42 PM ET #22

    ill go wit the under, offense is going to be rusty and mostly in the preseason its all about the young players playing tight D.
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    ill go wit the under, offense is going to be rusty and mostly in the preseason its all about the young players playing tight D.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 2:45 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    OK maybe I was too quick to call an Eagle victory here. Looking at how these two coaches approach the pre-season makes me think, that regardless of what happened Belichick takes these games more seriously than Reid. New England wins this one SU.
     
    New England - 23                      Philadelphia - 13
    Patriots +3                             over 35
     

    Getting the bankroll ready for the real thing.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    OK maybe I was too quick to call an Eagle victory here. Looking at how these two coaches approach the pre-season makes me think, that regardless of what happened Belichick takes these games more seriously than Reid. New England wins this one SU.
     
    New England - 23                      Philadelphia - 13
    Patriots +3                             over 35
     

    Getting the bankroll ready for the real thing.....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 4:01 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    RIP Jim Johnson you were one of the best.....you will be missed.   Eagles win this one for JJ

    Jim Johnson was a beast. That being said I like the Pats. Brady will play at least 2 series and he wants to show everyone he's back to his old self. PATS +3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    RIP Jim Johnson you were one of the best.....you will be missed.   Eagles win this one for JJ

    Jim Johnson was a beast. That being said I like the Pats. Brady will play at least 2 series and he wants to show everyone he's back to his old self. PATS +3

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 4:09 PM ET #25

    tcrotejr and Chezman hit it right on the head.

    Check out the preseason records of the eagles under the Reid era and you will see a convincing trend.
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    tcrotejr and Chezman hit it right on the head.

    Check out the preseason records of the eagles under the Reid era and you will see a convincing trend.
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