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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 1:50 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [5-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  New Orleans [7-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Louisiana Superdome

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (3049)
    Rushing: Laurence Maroney (455)
    Receiving: Randy Moss (925)

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (2746)
    Rushing: Pierre Thomas (584)
    Receiving: Marques Colston (687)

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    Away:  New England [5-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  New Orleans [7-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Louisiana Superdome

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (3049)
    Rushing: Laurence Maroney (455)
    Receiving: Randy Moss (925)

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (2746)
    Rushing: Pierre Thomas (584)
    Receiving: Marques Colston (687)

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 12:46 PM ET #2

    i dont know if the pats will lose 2 times to perfect teams.

    enough said

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    i dont know if the pats will lose 2 times to perfect teams.

    enough said

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 1:23 PM ET #3

    I think the Pats win SU here. I agree with the above statement, plus Brees actually has thrown a decent number of picks this year (9), and I think Belichicks confusing defenses will snag 1 or 2 this game. Plus in a game where both teams are lighting up the scoreboard and you know its gonna be close, take the points. Remember the 3 points was enough for the Pats to cover against the Colts
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    I think the Pats win SU here. I agree with the above statement, plus Brees actually has thrown a decent number of picks this year (9), and I think Belichicks confusing defenses will snag 1 or 2 this game. Plus in a game where both teams are lighting up the scoreboard and you know its gonna be close, take the points. Remember the 3 points was enough for the Pats to cover against the Colts
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 2:42 PM ET #4

    I like the Pats with the points in this spot. I agree with the comments said above. Belichick will not lose this game. He should have won at the Colts. Any time the Pats are getting points they always cover and 3 points is to many. Spread should be Saints -1 or pickem.  Randy Moss and Wes Welker will be hard to cover and they will have a great game. Plus the game is in a dome which Brady record is 11-2 all time in domes. I also believe Belichick is going to use the same defense plan they used to stop the Rams that year they won the Superbowl. Good luck to all.     
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    I like the Pats with the points in this spot. I agree with the comments said above. Belichick will not lose this game. He should have won at the Colts. Any time the Pats are getting points they always cover and 3 points is to many. Spread should be Saints -1 or pickem.  Randy Moss and Wes Welker will be hard to cover and they will have a great game. Plus the game is in a dome which Brady record is 11-2 all time in domes. I also believe Belichick is going to use the same defense plan they used to stop the Rams that year they won the Superbowl. Good luck to all.     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 5:07 PM ET #5

    that's a lot of points for O/U line...

    early lean OVER.

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    that's a lot of points for O/U line...

    early lean OVER.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 8:36 PM ET #6

    Seems all the talking heads want the money to go on the Pats.  If CB's are healthy for NO, home field will be too much for the Pats. Saints 34 Pats 30.
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    Seems all the talking heads want the money to go on the Pats.  If CB's are healthy for NO, home field will be too much for the Pats. Saints 34 Pats 30.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 9:12 PM ET #7

    Biggest, most objective Saints fan around.

    Bet on Saints games three times.  Twice was against them.

    New England takes this.  Saints secondary is banged up.  McAlister and McKenzie are timely additions but come up against it versus Brady and company.  Not quite sure on the health status on the current starters or who will take the nickel slot this week.

    Even so, I would take the Pats by 7 in this one.  I just feel that the Saints are coming up against the Pats in the wrong week.

    Hopefully, the only thing that is wrong, is me.
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    Biggest, most objective Saints fan around.

    Bet on Saints games three times.  Twice was against them.

    New England takes this.  Saints secondary is banged up.  McAlister and McKenzie are timely additions but come up against it versus Brady and company.  Not quite sure on the health status on the current starters or who will take the nickel slot this week.

    Even so, I would take the Pats by 7 in this one.  I just feel that the Saints are coming up against the Pats in the wrong week.

    Hopefully, the only thing that is wrong, is me.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 11:09 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Biggest, most objective Saints fan around.

    Bet on Saints games three times.  Twice was against them.

    New England takes this.  Saints secondary is banged up.  McAlister and McKenzie are timely additions but come up against it versus Brady and company.  Not quite sure on the health status on the current starters or who will take the nickel slot this week.

    Even so, I would take the Pats by 7 in this one.  I just feel that the Saints are coming up against the Pats in the wrong week.

    Hopefully, the only thing that is wrong, is me.

     thanks for the info..

    As much as I really need your Saints to beat the Pats to get my Fins closer for a playoff push I cannot see the Pats losing this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Biggest, most objective Saints fan around.

    Bet on Saints games three times.  Twice was against them.

    New England takes this.  Saints secondary is banged up.  McAlister and McKenzie are timely additions but come up against it versus Brady and company.  Not quite sure on the health status on the current starters or who will take the nickel slot this week.

    Even so, I would take the Pats by 7 in this one.  I just feel that the Saints are coming up against the Pats in the wrong week.

    Hopefully, the only thing that is wrong, is me.

     thanks for the info..

    As much as I really need your Saints to beat the Pats to get my Fins closer for a playoff push I cannot see the Pats losing this one.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #9

    Can anyone say shoot out?  I feel like a mistake on offense could lose it for either one of these teams,  COME ON PATS!!!

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    Can anyone say shoot out?  I feel like a mistake on offense could lose it for either one of these teams,  COME ON PATS!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 4:24 PM ET #10

    Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that the Pats are 1-3 on the road this year and that the Saints have a much better ground game than do the Pats. Granted this will be another high scoring game, but the Saints easily have as many weapons if not more, than New England. I'm giving the 3 and taking the Saints, at home and playing in front of a huge , loud , Monday night crowd !
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    Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that the Pats are 1-3 on the road this year and that the Saints have a much better ground game than do the Pats. Granted this will be another high scoring game, but the Saints easily have as many weapons if not more, than New England. I'm giving the 3 and taking the Saints, at home and playing in front of a huge , loud , Monday night crowd !
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 4:27 PM ET #11

    HeadOverHeart, take your boys.....it'll be alright !! Saints will pound the Pats run defense all night, which in turn will help to open up that vaunted pass offense.
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    HeadOverHeart, take your boys.....it'll be alright !! Saints will pound the Pats run defense all night, which in turn will help to open up that vaunted pass offense.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 4:29 PM ET #12

    Hey Coverpicker, Bellicheat did not lose the Colts game........the lack of execution by his players did.
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    Hey Coverpicker, Bellicheat did not lose the Colts game........the lack of execution by his players did.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 4:31 PM ET #13

    Billy Walters just laid -130, +3 on the Patriots.....
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    Billy Walters just laid -130, +3 on the Patriots.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 4:44 PM ET #14

    Good Afternoon Everyone!

    This is one hell of a match up for a Monday night game! The undefeated Saints going against the respected Patriots. Who's going to win this one? This is much easier than cooking a bowl of instant noodles.

    WIth the Patriots still having that silly primetime loss against the Colts in everyone's mind, they're going to need to win this to save some face. They easily took care of the Jets last week, and that is just a warm up for this week's match. Bill is no sucker and will not have his name associated with being one and hes going to prove it this Monday.

    The Saints are in no means the same team in the past. They are more focused and hungry to win this year. They have the talent and the coaching staff that is capable of beating any NFL team any given Sunday (and Monday). But as they are 10-0 right now, you have to wonder how much pressure there will be to keep the streak going especially without the experience of being the best in the league. So instead of coming out attacking the Patriots this week, expect them to have a play not to lose mentality, which will ultimately shoot themselves in the foot.

    Patriots +3

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    Good Afternoon Everyone!

    This is one hell of a match up for a Monday night game! The undefeated Saints going against the respected Patriots. Who's going to win this one? This is much easier than cooking a bowl of instant noodles.

    WIth the Patriots still having that silly primetime loss against the Colts in everyone's mind, they're going to need to win this to save some face. They easily took care of the Jets last week, and that is just a warm up for this week's match. Bill is no sucker and will not have his name associated with being one and hes going to prove it this Monday.

    The Saints are in no means the same team in the past. They are more focused and hungry to win this year. They have the talent and the coaching staff that is capable of beating any NFL team any given Sunday (and Monday). But as they are 10-0 right now, you have to wonder how much pressure there will be to keep the streak going especially without the experience of being the best in the league. So instead of coming out attacking the Patriots this week, expect them to have a play not to lose mentality, which will ultimately shoot themselves in the foot.

    Patriots +3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 10:28 PM ET #15

     

     Major wager here! NE cover & win!

    (Expect a tight game here, as Saints will not roll over and play "dead"!

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     Major wager here! NE cover & win!

    (Expect a tight game here, as Saints will not roll over and play "dead"!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 11:33 PM ET #16

    56 points, too high for the Over to hit? One long drive without a TD and that's it. I see at least one of these teams hitting 30 but we'll need at least one crazy play, like a pick-6, a kickoff return for TD, big return, pick in the defensive zone, etc.

    2 TD's a quarter needed.

    I think it will be 28-28 at the end of the 4th and will make this the best game of the year.

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    56 points, too high for the Over to hit? One long drive without a TD and that's it. I see at least one of these teams hitting 30 but we'll need at least one crazy play, like a pick-6, a kickoff return for TD, big return, pick in the defensive zone, etc.

    2 TD's a quarter needed.

    I think it will be 28-28 at the end of the 4th and will make this the best game of the year.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2009 - 12:07 AM ET #17

    If Pats run defense struggles, look for ball control drives by Bree and Co. that last 7minutes plus.  Pats might not get the ball nearly as much as one might think.  Saints cover.
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    If Pats run defense struggles, look for ball control drives by Bree and Co. that last 7minutes plus.  Pats might not get the ball nearly as much as one might think.  Saints cover.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2009 - 6:57 AM ET #18

    Darn, the total is out of this world. Probably the highest total in the last 5 years.  Having said, the final score is probably 38-34 lol
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    Darn, the total is out of this world. Probably the highest total in the last 5 years.  Having said, the final score is probably 38-34 lol
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2009 - 8:53 AM ET #19

    Would love to say the Saints cover and or win this game but I can't.  We are tough at home but the Pats are hot right now.  I'm not going to bet against my Saints so I'm staying away.  Not so sure this will be the shootout everyone is thinking, 56 is a lot of points ....... 


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    Would love to say the Saints cover and or win this game but I can't.  We are tough at home but the Pats are hot right now.  I'm not going to bet against my Saints so I'm staying away.  Not so sure this will be the shootout everyone is thinking, 56 is a lot of points ....... 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2009 - 8:28 PM ET #20

    why for to b you all want to b me and not to
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    why for to b you all want to b me and not to
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 6:22 AM ET #21

    THE LAST TIME THESE 2 TEAMS PLAYED WAS IN 11/05. THAT YEAR THEY BOTH ARE 1-1 AGAINST EACH OTHER. THAT WAS 4 YEARS AGO AND 4 YEARS IS A LOT OF TIME.
      THIS YEAR IS DEFINITELY A GAME TO WATCH CAUSE MY #S TELLS ME THAT THEY ARE ALMOST EQUALLY MATCHED FOR THE LAST 4 GAMES. CHECK THIS OUT.

    NO SAINTS         NE PATRIOTS
    --------------------------------------------------
    OFF  /  DEF            OFF   /   DEF
    -------------------------------------------------
    38         7               31           14
    28        23              34           35
    30        20              27           17
    35        27              35            7
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    131      77             127          73    divide by 4
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    32.75    19.25       31.75      18.25
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    advantage offense NO  +1
    advantage defense NE  +1 
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    home field advantage NO + 3
     
    Why is the home field advantage important you ask?
    Well, simply because PAT'S 3 losses is away. Yes they should have won the game @ IND, but if you were watching the same game as I watched, I saw that IND was a 1 dimensional team until they started running the ball and before then, NE was just eating them up and got a jump on the lead. Now that they are going to NO SAINTS "Dome Of Destruction" they will face the most well balanced offense in the whole entire NFL.  # offense is not to be taken lightly. The JETS was just a speed bump to most but the jets still scored 2 touchdowns where as the SAINTS only allowed 7 points and scored 38. With that said, you tell me who is on fire my fellow football fans. If you were to do the last 4 games by away and home, check this out:

        AWAY                    HOME
    ````````````````````````````````````````````
    NE PATRIOTS           NO  SAINTS
    ````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    OFF         DEF         OFF          DEF
    ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    34            35             30               20
    35             7              35               27
    17            20             48               27
     9             16             24               10
    ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    95            78            137               84   (divide by 4)
    ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    23.75      19.5         34.25             21

    advantage offense    NO +10.5
    advantage defense   NE  + 1.5
    home field advantage   NO + 3
    `````````````````````````````````````````````
                    ( NO SAINTS     -12 )

    I am truly confident that my NO SAINTS will not let me down and especially the home team crowd. Mr. Brady better get the ball off quick and work on his foot work cause those SAINTS defense is gonna try and light him up. 

    IT'S ALL ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL BABY AND THE SAINTS DONT F@#$ AROUND ON MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. THEY WILL COME TO PLAY AND PLAY HARD. IT'S THEIR HOUSE AND NO ONE BEATS THE SAINTS IN THEIR HOUSE. THEY SERVE THE BEATING AND ITS GOING TO BE A BUFFET ON MONDAY. JUST FOR THE NE PATRIOTS, ITS WHITE GLOVE SERVICE. FIRST CLASS ASS WOOPIN AND I BELIEVE THEIR IS A TOUCH OF SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY HAPPENING WHEN THEY ARE SHOWN OUT THE FU@K#N DOOR. 

    " YA'LL COME BACK NOW YOU HEAR" COMMON BACK FOR MORE OF THAT ASS WOOPIN WHEN YOU GET HUNGRY"
    Reply
    THE LAST TIME THESE 2 TEAMS PLAYED WAS IN 11/05. THAT YEAR THEY BOTH ARE 1-1 AGAINST EACH OTHER. THAT WAS 4 YEARS AGO AND 4 YEARS IS A LOT OF TIME.
      THIS YEAR IS DEFINITELY A GAME TO WATCH CAUSE MY #S TELLS ME THAT THEY ARE ALMOST EQUALLY MATCHED FOR THE LAST 4 GAMES. CHECK THIS OUT.

    NO SAINTS         NE PATRIOTS
    --------------------------------------------------
    OFF  /  DEF            OFF   /   DEF
    -------------------------------------------------
    38         7               31           14
    28        23              34           35
    30        20              27           17
    35        27              35            7
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    131      77             127          73    divide by 4
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    32.75    19.25       31.75      18.25
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    advantage offense NO  +1
    advantage defense NE  +1 
    `````````````````````````````````````````````````
    home field advantage NO + 3
     
    Why is the home field advantage important you ask?
    Well, simply because PAT'S 3 losses is away. Yes they should have won the game @ IND, but if you were watching the same game as I watched, I saw that IND was a 1 dimensional team until they started running the ball and before then, NE was just eating them up and got a jump on the lead. Now that they are going to NO SAINTS "Dome Of Destruction" they will face the most well balanced offense in the whole entire NFL.  # offense is not to be taken lightly. The JETS was just a speed bump to most but the jets still scored 2 touchdowns where as the SAINTS only allowed 7 points and scored 38. With that said, you tell me who is on fire my fellow football fans. If you were to do the last 4 games by away and home, check this out:

        AWAY                    HOME
    ````````````````````````````````````````````
    NE PATRIOTS           NO  SAINTS
    ````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    OFF         DEF         OFF          DEF
    ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    34            35             30               20
    35             7              35               27
    17            20             48               27
     9             16             24               10
    ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    95            78            137               84   (divide by 4)
    ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
    23.75      19.5         34.25             21

    advantage offense    NO +10.5
    advantage defense   NE  + 1.5
    home field advantage   NO + 3
    `````````````````````````````````````````````
                    ( NO SAINTS     -12 )

    I am truly confident that my NO SAINTS will not let me down and especially the home team crowd. Mr. Brady better get the ball off quick and work on his foot work cause those SAINTS defense is gonna try and light him up. 

    IT'S ALL ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL BABY AND THE SAINTS DONT F@#$ AROUND ON MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. THEY WILL COME TO PLAY AND PLAY HARD. IT'S THEIR HOUSE AND NO ONE BEATS THE SAINTS IN THEIR HOUSE. THEY SERVE THE BEATING AND ITS GOING TO BE A BUFFET ON MONDAY. JUST FOR THE NE PATRIOTS, ITS WHITE GLOVE SERVICE. FIRST CLASS ASS WOOPIN AND I BELIEVE THEIR IS A TOUCH OF SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY HAPPENING WHEN THEY ARE SHOWN OUT THE FU@K#N DOOR. 

    " YA'LL COME BACK NOW YOU HEAR" COMMON BACK FOR MORE OF THAT ASS WOOPIN WHEN YOU GET HUNGRY"
     
    Philly215
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 11:39 AM ET #22

    NE +3 -130
    Reply
    NE +3 -130
     
    dddevin69
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 6:45 PM ET #23

    I'm thinkin  NE + 1.  I don't like NE, but new orleans has to lose sometime.  this would be a perfect spot
    Reply
    I'm thinkin  NE + 1.  I don't like NE, but new orleans has to lose sometime.  this would be a perfect spot
     
    coltpower
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 6:47 PM ET #24

    Saints win .....period !
    Reply
    Saints win .....period !
     
     
    808pickyboy
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2009 - 1:18 AM ET #25

     THE LAST TIME THAT NO SAINTS LOST AT HOME IN THE REGULAR SEASON WAS 12/28/08 TO CAR. PANTHERS (31-33). BEFORE THAT WAS TO MINN. (27-30) 10/06/08.  ONCE AGAIN, THE PATRIOTS 3 LOSSES THIS YEAR WAS ON THE ROAD. SURE THE SAINTS HAVE A PERFECT RECORD AND THEY HAVE TO LOSE SOMETIME RIGHT? BUT THIS IS NOT THE TIME OR WILL THEY LOSE ANYTIME SOON. THE SAINTS WILL TAKE THIS PERFECT RECORD ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPERBOWL. THERE IS NO TEAM OUT THERE THAT WILL STOP THE SAINTS FROM HAVING A PERFECT RECORD. THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN WINNING THE SUPERBOWL IS WINNING IT WITH A PERFECT RECORD AND GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE BEST FOOTBALL TEAM EVER PUT TOGETHER.
           DREW BREES AND COMPANY WILL WIN OVER THE PATRIOTS WITH CONVINCING HOME DOMINATION. MY PREDICTION OF THIS GAME IS :

    SAINTS    42

    PATRIOTS  24
    Reply
     THE LAST TIME THAT NO SAINTS LOST AT HOME IN THE REGULAR SEASON WAS 12/28/08 TO CAR. PANTHERS (31-33). BEFORE THAT WAS TO MINN. (27-30) 10/06/08.  ONCE AGAIN, THE PATRIOTS 3 LOSSES THIS YEAR WAS ON THE ROAD. SURE THE SAINTS HAVE A PERFECT RECORD AND THEY HAVE TO LOSE SOMETIME RIGHT? BUT THIS IS NOT THE TIME OR WILL THEY LOSE ANYTIME SOON. THE SAINTS WILL TAKE THIS PERFECT RECORD ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPERBOWL. THERE IS NO TEAM OUT THERE THAT WILL STOP THE SAINTS FROM HAVING A PERFECT RECORD. THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN WINNING THE SUPERBOWL IS WINNING IT WITH A PERFECT RECORD AND GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE BEST FOOTBALL TEAM EVER PUT TOGETHER.
           DREW BREES AND COMPANY WILL WIN OVER THE PATRIOTS WITH CONVINCING HOME DOMINATION. MY PREDICTION OF THIS GAME IS :

    SAINTS    42

    PATRIOTS  24
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