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    New England at Indianapolis (11/15/2009)

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 1:18 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [4-4 ATS]
    Home:  Indianapolis [5-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Lucas Oil Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2364)
    Rushing: Laurence Maroney (347)
    Receiving: Randy Moss (712)

    Indianapolis:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (2545)
    Rushing: Joseph Addai (399)
    Receiving: Reggie Wayne (753)

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    Away:  New England [4-4 ATS]
    Home:  Indianapolis [5-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Lucas Oil Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2364)
    Rushing: Laurence Maroney (347)
    Receiving: Randy Moss (712)

    Indianapolis:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (2545)
    Rushing: Joseph Addai (399)
    Receiving: Reggie Wayne (753)

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 8:54 AM ET #2

    Return to the scene of the crime! Didnt NE beat them last time there were undefeated? Isnt this were Indy went on a tailspin have u seen last 2 gms are they cracking. Matchup wise = Intangables + NE . Indys home record against spead this yr !

     

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    Return to the scene of the crime! Didnt NE beat them last time there were undefeated? Isnt this were Indy went on a tailspin have u seen last 2 gms are they cracking. Matchup wise = Intangables + NE . Indys home record against spead this yr !

     

     New England wins

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 11:52 AM ET #3

    THE COLTS HAVE BEEN ON AN INCREDIBLE RUN.THEY'VE WON MANY GAMES IN A ROW BUT IT ENDS HERE.THEY CAN'T WIN EVERY GAME.IF THERE EVER GOING TO LOSE A GAME IT'S GOING TO BE AGAINST AN ELITE TEAM LIKE NE.BOB SANDERS IS OUT.THERE HURTING.IT'S A MATTER OF TIME.3 POINTS IS HUGE IN A GAME THIS CLOSE.

     

    NEW ENGLAND +3

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    THE COLTS HAVE BEEN ON AN INCREDIBLE RUN.THEY'VE WON MANY GAMES IN A ROW BUT IT ENDS HERE.THEY CAN'T WIN EVERY GAME.IF THERE EVER GOING TO LOSE A GAME IT'S GOING TO BE AGAINST AN ELITE TEAM LIKE NE.BOB SANDERS IS OUT.THERE HURTING.IT'S A MATTER OF TIME.3 POINTS IS HUGE IN A GAME THIS CLOSE.

     

    NEW ENGLAND +3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 4:15 PM ET #4

    What about line movement, will there be any and which way will it go. I think Ind at home line may climb perhaps Pats bettors may be better served waiting till later in the week. I always back NE with my homer heart. Waiting for the numbers at little NE +3 may buy the hook to 3 1/2 if I have too.
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    What about line movement, will there be any and which way will it go. I think Ind at home line may climb perhaps Pats bettors may be better served waiting till later in the week. I always back NE with my homer heart. Waiting for the numbers at little NE +3 may buy the hook to 3 1/2 if I have too.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 5:02 PM ET #5

    I know Indy is on an incredible tear, but we're talking about the Patriots here. Give me the points and Brady. NE +3
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    I know Indy is on an incredible tear, but we're talking about the Patriots here. Give me the points and Brady. NE +3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 5:10 PM ET #6

    I love teasing the underdog in this matchup.  I might take NE +10 with another game on a 2 team 7pter this week
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    I love teasing the underdog in this matchup.  I might take NE +10 with another game on a 2 team 7pter this week
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 5:23 PM ET #7

    I'll be surprised if there aren't a lot of points scored here.  NE defense has been shaky as of late and their best pass rusher is tully banta cain, probably misspelled that, but they do not have a legit pass rush.  Their secondary is slowly getting better, but the offense for the Pats is starting to get back to good form.  I like the Pats to win, but still think the over is probably the best bet on this game. 

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    I'll be surprised if there aren't a lot of points scored here.  NE defense has been shaky as of late and their best pass rusher is tully banta cain, probably misspelled that, but they do not have a legit pass rush.  Their secondary is slowly getting better, but the offense for the Pats is starting to get back to good form.  I like the Pats to win, but still think the over is probably the best bet on this game. 

    Pats +3
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 5:27 PM ET #8

    Tom Brady is 12-0 in a dome as a starter. Nuff said

    Pats  34
    Colts 24

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    Tom Brady is 12-0 in a dome as a starter. Nuff said

    Pats  34
    Colts 24

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 5:49 PM ET #9

    Just teased NE +10 with Miami 3 can't wait to watch this game should be awesome
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    Just teased NE +10 with Miami 3 can't wait to watch this game should be awesome
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 5:51 PM ET #10

    The Pats Will contain Regie Wayne and Frustrate Cry Baby Peyton for an easy 2nd half win. (IMO)
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    The Pats Will contain Regie Wayne and Frustrate Cry Baby Peyton for an easy 2nd half win. (IMO)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 5:52 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    Just teased NE +10 with Miami 3 can't wait to watch this game should be awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    Just teased NE +10 with Miami 3 can't wait to watch this game should be awesome

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 6:26 PM ET #12

    The key to beating Manning is easy....jammed his receivers at the line of scrimmage, and he'll throw it away. New England ability to put a hard hit on people is going to rattle a few Colts players, especially the rookies, this game.
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    The key to beating Manning is easy....jammed his receivers at the line of scrimmage, and he'll throw it away. New England ability to put a hard hit on people is going to rattle a few Colts players, especially the rookies, this game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 6:31 PM ET #13

    New England +3

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    New England +3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 10:03 PM ET #14

    INDY  
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    INDY  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 11:52 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Tom Brady is 12-0 in a dome as a starter. Nuff said

    Pats  34
    Colts 24

    the colts play OUTSIDE now....just sayin..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Tom Brady is 12-0 in a dome as a starter. Nuff said

    Pats  34
    Colts 24

    the colts play OUTSIDE now....just sayin..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2009 - 10:13 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by csumner44:

    the colts play OUTSIDE now....just sayin..

    The roof is retractable they will be indoors this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csumner44:

    the colts play OUTSIDE now....just sayin..

    The roof is retractable they will be indoors this weekend.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2009 - 11:12 AM ET #17

    Hey rekamyenoM, need to get your facts straight. Brady lost in the RCA dome on Januaury 27, 2007. ( 38-34 ). Any of you fools out there takin the Pats to win, please email me. I would love to fatten my wallet with your dollar bills ! Colts win this game....again
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    Hey rekamyenoM, need to get your facts straight. Brady lost in the RCA dome on Januaury 27, 2007. ( 38-34 ). Any of you fools out there takin the Pats to win, please email me. I would love to fatten my wallet with your dollar bills ! Colts win this game....again
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2009 - 11:35 AM ET #18

    Mr. Brady, my name is Dwight Freeney...............here, let me help you up off the ground     Bill Bellicheat does not have enough defensive weapons to stop the Colts. Colts win this game and will await home field advantage throughout the playoffs. You Patriot fans are waiting for a train that has already left the station
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    Mr. Brady, my name is Dwight Freeney...............here, let me help you up off the ground     Bill Bellicheat does not have enough defensive weapons to stop the Colts. Colts win this game and will await home field advantage throughout the playoffs. You Patriot fans are waiting for a train that has already left the station
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by coltpower:

    Mr. Brady, my name is Dwight Freeney...............here, let me help you up off the ground     Bill Bellicheat does not have enough defensive weapons to stop the Colts. Colts win this game and will await home field advantage throughout the playoffs. You Patriot fans are waiting for a train that has already left the station


    Let's keep things somewhat mature here hugh? This behavior belongs elsewhere. Don't respond to this tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coltpower:

    Mr. Brady, my name is Dwight Freeney...............here, let me help you up off the ground     Bill Bellicheat does not have enough defensive weapons to stop the Colts. Colts win this game and will await home field advantage throughout the playoffs. You Patriot fans are waiting for a train that has already left the station


    Let's keep things somewhat mature here hugh? This behavior belongs elsewhere. Don't respond to this tool.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2009 - 5:03 PM ET #20

    [Quote: Originally Posted by ricke123]

    Let's keep things somewhat mature here hugh? This behavior belongs elsewhere. Don't respond to this tool.

    Uh, ricke 123.......didn't you just respond ?

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by ricke123]

    Let's keep things somewhat mature here hugh? This behavior belongs elsewhere. Don't respond to this tool.

    Uh, ricke 123.......didn't you just respond ?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2009 - 7:41 PM ET #21

    Although I would like to believe Brady is 12-0 in a dome, he isn't.  Maybe in the regular season, but I would also have to check that, but he did lose in the RCA dome in 2006 as a result of the defense completely collapsing in the second half, wasn't his fault.  And as much as it pains me to bring it up, Zona has a dome, and I think they blew a pretty big game there in 2007 as a result of the offensive line probably drinking all night long the night before the superbowl.  However, that being said, colts defense is not good, especially with sanders out, and although dwight freeny is good as a pass rusher, all you have to do to neutralize him is to run straight at him as he will be ten yards in the back field as the ball is being handed off.  Pats defense isn't much better, but I think they do enough to win.  Over is the best bet, but I still have yet to be impressed by the colts this year. 

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    Although I would like to believe Brady is 12-0 in a dome, he isn't.  Maybe in the regular season, but I would also have to check that, but he did lose in the RCA dome in 2006 as a result of the defense completely collapsing in the second half, wasn't his fault.  And as much as it pains me to bring it up, Zona has a dome, and I think they blew a pretty big game there in 2007 as a result of the offensive line probably drinking all night long the night before the superbowl.  However, that being said, colts defense is not good, especially with sanders out, and although dwight freeny is good as a pass rusher, all you have to do to neutralize him is to run straight at him as he will be ten yards in the back field as the ball is being handed off.  Pats defense isn't much better, but I think they do enough to win.  Over is the best bet, but I still have yet to be impressed by the colts this year. 

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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2009 - 8:32 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by csumner44:

    the colts play OUTSIDE now....just sayin..

    Lucas Oil Stadium is a Dome/Retractable roof. They will be playing INSIDE

    And.... Tom Brady is 12-0 inside during REGULAR SEASON. Soon to be 13-0.

    This should be an easy 10 point win for the Pats (IMO)

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    Quote Originally Posted by csumner44:

    the colts play OUTSIDE now....just sayin..

    Lucas Oil Stadium is a Dome/Retractable roof. They will be playing INSIDE

    And.... Tom Brady is 12-0 inside during REGULAR SEASON. Soon to be 13-0.

    This should be an easy 10 point win for the Pats (IMO)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2009 - 8:40 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by coltpower:

    Hey rekamyenoM, need to get your facts straight. Brady lost in the RCA dome on Januaury 27, 2007. ( 38-34 ). Any of you fools out there takin the Pats to win, please email me. I would love to fatten my wallet with your dollar bills ! Colts win this game....again

    Just so you know... I was at this game and it was Sunday  JANUARY 21st 2007. Not the 27th.

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    Hey rekamyenoM, need to get your facts straight. Brady lost in the RCA dome on Januaury 27, 2007. ( 38-34 ). Any of you fools out there takin the Pats to win, please email me. I would love to fatten my wallet with your dollar bills ! Colts win this game....again

    Just so you know... I was at this game and it was Sunday  JANUARY 21st 2007. Not the 27th.

     
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    Indianapolis Colts Injuries
    Donald Brown RB October 25, 2009 shoulder Day-to-Day November 15, 2009
    Comments:  Brown was inactive for a second straight game as the Colts faced Houston on Sunday afternoon.

    Tyjuan Hagler LB November 4, 2009 biceps IR September 1, 2010
    Comments:  The unbeaten Colts have lost starting linebacker Tyjuan Hagler for the rest of the season with a ruptured biceps. Coach Jim Caldwell said Hagler was placed on injured reserve Wednesday.

    Roy Hall WR August 18, 2009 undisclosed IR September 5, 2010
    Comments:  Hall is on injured reserve with an undisclosed injury.
    Rudolph Hardie DE September 2, 2009 knee IR September 5, 2010
    Comments:  Hardie is on injured reserve with a knee injury.

    Kelvin Hayden CB November 2, 2009 knee Day-to-Day November 15, 2009
    Comments:  Hayden was inactive for the Colts' game against Houston on Sunday after leaving their 18-14 win over San Francisco last week with a knee injury.

    Marlin Jackson CB November 6, 2009 left knee IR September 12, 2010
    Comments:  A person with knowledge of the injury says Jackson will miss the rest of the season after tearing the ACL in his left knee.

    Jamie Petrowski TE September 8, 2009 foot IR September 5, 2010
    Comments:  Petrowski is on injured reserve with a foot injury.

    Bob Sanders S November 6, 2009 biceps IR September 12, 2010
    Comments:  Sanders will miss the remainder of the 2009 season with a torn biceps tendon, the latest round of bad injury news for the 7-0 Colts.
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    Indianapolis Colts Injuries
    Donald Brown RB October 25, 2009 shoulder Day-to-Day November 15, 2009
    Comments:  Brown was inactive for a second straight game as the Colts faced Houston on Sunday afternoon.

    Tyjuan Hagler LB November 4, 2009 biceps IR September 1, 2010
    Comments:  The unbeaten Colts have lost starting linebacker Tyjuan Hagler for the rest of the season with a ruptured biceps. Coach Jim Caldwell said Hagler was placed on injured reserve Wednesday.

    Roy Hall WR August 18, 2009 undisclosed IR September 5, 2010
    Comments:  Hall is on injured reserve with an undisclosed injury.
    Rudolph Hardie DE September 2, 2009 knee IR September 5, 2010
    Comments:  Hardie is on injured reserve with a knee injury.

    Kelvin Hayden CB November 2, 2009 knee Day-to-Day November 15, 2009
    Comments:  Hayden was inactive for the Colts' game against Houston on Sunday after leaving their 18-14 win over San Francisco last week with a knee injury.

    Marlin Jackson CB November 6, 2009 left knee IR September 12, 2010
    Comments:  A person with knowledge of the injury says Jackson will miss the rest of the season after tearing the ACL in his left knee.

    Jamie Petrowski TE September 8, 2009 foot IR September 5, 2010
    Comments:  Petrowski is on injured reserve with a foot injury.

    Bob Sanders S November 6, 2009 biceps IR September 12, 2010
    Comments:  Sanders will miss the remainder of the 2009 season with a torn biceps tendon, the latest round of bad injury news for the 7-0 Colts.
     
     
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    YEP. This may be the greatest rivarly ever in just over 1 decade of NFL play. The series in the regular season this decade is 6-4 New England, playoffs is 2-1 New England - total is New England 8-5. Close! Each team 1-1 in title games - even. Over this decade the Colts have won 1 SB, started a season 7-0 or better 4 times and have won 12 or more games 6 times/6YR's in a row which is a record. New England has won 3 SB's, been to 4 SB's, and had an undefeated regular season. Doesnt get any better than this!! 

    NewEngland          34
    Indianapolis Colts  24

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    YEP. This may be the greatest rivarly ever in just over 1 decade of NFL play. The series in the regular season this decade is 6-4 New England, playoffs is 2-1 New England - total is New England 8-5. Close! Each team 1-1 in title games - even. Over this decade the Colts have won 1 SB, started a season 7-0 or better 4 times and have won 12 or more games 6 times/6YR's in a row which is a record. New England has won 3 SB's, been to 4 SB's, and had an undefeated regular season. Doesnt get any better than this!! 

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    Indianapolis Colts  24

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