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    New England at Cleveland (11/07/2010)

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 1:16 AM ET #26

    SINCE SOMEONE IN HERE SAID THAT NE. WAS A LOCK THAT MEANS TAKE THE BROWNS, IT NEVER FELLS..

    IT JUST SEAMS WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THAT IT HAPPENS!!

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    SINCE SOMEONE IN HERE SAID THAT NE. WAS A LOCK THAT MEANS TAKE THE BROWNS, IT NEVER FELLS..

    IT JUST SEAMS WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THAT IT HAPPENS!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 1:25 AM ET #27

    ADSITAR, WHILE ITS TRUE UPSETS AND PARITY HAVE BEEN A COMMON THEME IN THE NFL THIS YEAR ITS ALMOST WISHFUL THINKING TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A CARRY OVER FROM THE BROWNS WIN AT NEW ORLEANS INTO THIS GAME. BREES WAS ERRATIC THAT DAY, THROWING 4 INT INCLUDING THE TWO FLUKING PICK 6'S FROM DAVID BOWENS. EVEN THE BEST HAVE THEIR OFF DAYS BUT I BELIEVE BRADY TOMMOROW WILL BE EFFICIENT.  HE DOESNT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THROWING THE DEEP BALL LIKE BREES BECAUSE THE PATRIOTS OFFENSE IS ABOUT BALL CONTROL AND WITHOUT A VIABLE DEEP OPTION BRADY WILL UTILIZE WHAT HE HAS HE AND SLOWLY SHRED THIS SOFT CLEVELAND BROWN DEFENSE TO PIECES. THE BROWNS SUCK AND DONT LET THIS LINE FOOL YOU, IT IS A JOKE.  UNLESS YOU WATCH THE PATRIOTS EVERY SINGLE WEEK LIKE I HAVE THEN YOU WONT HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT UR DOING UNTIL AFTER YOU LOSE UR MONEY. TAKE THE PATS, TRUST

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    ADSITAR, WHILE ITS TRUE UPSETS AND PARITY HAVE BEEN A COMMON THEME IN THE NFL THIS YEAR ITS ALMOST WISHFUL THINKING TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A CARRY OVER FROM THE BROWNS WIN AT NEW ORLEANS INTO THIS GAME. BREES WAS ERRATIC THAT DAY, THROWING 4 INT INCLUDING THE TWO FLUKING PICK 6'S FROM DAVID BOWENS. EVEN THE BEST HAVE THEIR OFF DAYS BUT I BELIEVE BRADY TOMMOROW WILL BE EFFICIENT.  HE DOESNT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THROWING THE DEEP BALL LIKE BREES BECAUSE THE PATRIOTS OFFENSE IS ABOUT BALL CONTROL AND WITHOUT A VIABLE DEEP OPTION BRADY WILL UTILIZE WHAT HE HAS HE AND SLOWLY SHRED THIS SOFT CLEVELAND BROWN DEFENSE TO PIECES. THE BROWNS SUCK AND DONT LET THIS LINE FOOL YOU, IT IS A JOKE.  UNLESS YOU WATCH THE PATRIOTS EVERY SINGLE WEEK LIKE I HAVE THEN YOU WONT HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT UR DOING UNTIL AFTER YOU LOSE UR MONEY. TAKE THE PATS, TRUST

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 1:36 AM ET #28

    CAN ANY OF U CLEVELAND BACKERS GIVE ME A LOGICAL EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THE HELL THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THIS GAME ASIDE FROM THIS BEING A SUSPICIOUS LINE????
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    CAN ANY OF U CLEVELAND BACKERS GIVE ME A LOGICAL EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THE HELL THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THIS GAME ASIDE FROM THIS BEING A SUSPICIOUS LINE????
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 3:19 AM ET #29

    cmoney,  Pats offense isnt so great without moss, they beat SD, (actually SD beat themselves) and they beat the vikings. Both teams have similiar records to the browns...   Browns play hard everygame.  Most likely pats win by ten in a very low scoring game, But i can see Cribbs returning a punt back for a TD and Browns only lose by 3.  So i wouldnt say "lock"  . as much as i want to take the browns i cant pull the trigger, my best bet on this game is under 44 
    17-14 Browns for the win
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    cmoney,  Pats offense isnt so great without moss, they beat SD, (actually SD beat themselves) and they beat the vikings. Both teams have similiar records to the browns...   Browns play hard everygame.  Most likely pats win by ten in a very low scoring game, But i can see Cribbs returning a punt back for a TD and Browns only lose by 3.  So i wouldnt say "lock"  . as much as i want to take the browns i cant pull the trigger, my best bet on this game is under 44 
    17-14 Browns for the win
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 3:25 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by 01091967:

    SINCE SOMEONE IN HERE SAID THAT NE. WAS A LOCK THAT MEANS TAKE THE BROWNS, IT NEVER FELLS..

    IT JUST SEAMS WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THAT IT HAPPENS!!

    Thank you,

    3 times in fact

    Browns +4.5 all day!

    Now im gonna go take the Browns to the Superbowl excuse me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01091967:

    SINCE SOMEONE IN HERE SAID THAT NE. WAS A LOCK THAT MEANS TAKE THE BROWNS, IT NEVER FELLS..

    IT JUST SEAMS WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THAT IT HAPPENS!!

    Thank you,

    3 times in fact

    Browns +4.5 all day!

    Now im gonna go take the Browns to the Superbowl excuse me!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 4:07 AM ET #31

    man pats only laying 4!!

    after the last 3 weeks anything is possible

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    man pats only laying 4!!

    after the last 3 weeks anything is possible

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 4:09 AM ET #32

    but...

    i`ll take a 3team 10point teaser

    pats+6

    ravens+4.5

    colts+13

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    but...

    i`ll take a 3team 10point teaser

    pats+6

    ravens+4.5

    colts+13

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 4:10 AM ET #33

    it seems like every year i do great the first 7 weeks , and then these crazy upsets start to happen...

    GL

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    it seems like every year i do great the first 7 weeks , and then these crazy upsets start to happen...

    GL

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 5:26 AM ET #34

    This line looks fishy to me, the departure of Randy Moss must have screwed up the line.  Ever since he left, Patriots been barely getting by opponents.  Plus, the line is moved down to -3.5 with the public on Patriots.  Still, the line seems too good to pass up, I'll buy half a point down.

    Patriots -3
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    This line looks fishy to me, the departure of Randy Moss must have screwed up the line.  Ever since he left, Patriots been barely getting by opponents.  Plus, the line is moved down to -3.5 with the public on Patriots.  Still, the line seems too good to pass up, I'll buy half a point down.

    Patriots -3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 6:02 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney177:

    CAN ANY OF U CLEVELAND BACKERS GIVE ME A LOGICAL EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THE HELL THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THIS GAME ASIDE FROM THIS BEING A SUSPICIOUS LINE????


    NE -3.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney177:

    CAN ANY OF U CLEVELAND BACKERS GIVE ME A LOGICAL EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THE HELL THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THIS GAME ASIDE FROM THIS BEING A SUSPICIOUS LINE????


    NE -3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 6:03 AM ET #36

    BROWNS win 24-17 it's a "for got the combintation"...   ;)

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    BROWNS win 24-17 it's a "for got the combintation"...   ;)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 8:18 AM ET #37

    If you got the balls to go browns then i admire that, i dont     i think there fucking with the line here to make it an unattractive game... pats just a much better team,  Belichik vs a rookie qb????   dont overthink this one.  
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    If you got the balls to go browns then i admire that, i dont     i think there fucking with the line here to make it an unattractive game... pats just a much better team,  Belichik vs a rookie qb????   dont overthink this one.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 9:30 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney177:

    CAN ANY OF U CLEVELAND BACKERS GIVE ME A LOGICAL EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THE HELL THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THIS GAME ASIDE FROM THIS BEING A SUSPICIOUS LINE????

    The NFL defies logic...we all know that. As far as a reason, Browns are way undervalued. Beautiful day here in Cleveland and after 2 wks off to prepare to beat out X coach who was shit during is tenure, we get one of the best teams in the NFL...record wise. I won't break down each position but the Browns D is better than you think and so are the special teams. I see this coming down to a FG either way...so does Vegas. Take the pts with the Browns but if you really like the Pats, play the ML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney177:

    CAN ANY OF U CLEVELAND BACKERS GIVE ME A LOGICAL EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THE HELL THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THIS GAME ASIDE FROM THIS BEING A SUSPICIOUS LINE????

    The NFL defies logic...we all know that. As far as a reason, Browns are way undervalued. Beautiful day here in Cleveland and after 2 wks off to prepare to beat out X coach who was shit during is tenure, we get one of the best teams in the NFL...record wise. I won't break down each position but the Browns D is better than you think and so are the special teams. I see this coming down to a FG either way...so does Vegas. Take the pts with the Browns but if you really like the Pats, play the ML.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 9:39 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by TDMachine84:

    If you got the balls to go browns then i admire that, i dont     i think there fucking with the line here to make it an unattractive game... pats just a much better team,  Belichik vs a rookie qb????   dont overthink this one.  

    This is certainly entirely possible. I've even seen it this yr...books could be trying to keep the Pats faithful from raking it in, right? But don't you think the Pats faithful will be all over this line anyway? Reverse line as a ploy...this would only make it that much easier for Vegas to lose millions cuz you don't have to coax money on the Pats the last 10 yrs! The Browns lost some very close games and are better than their record shows. They have no chance at the playoffs but this is a chance for them to look like the underdog no one want's to play from here on out. There is talent on this team and today the country will see what the Browns plan to throw at Mr. Brady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDMachine84:

    If you got the balls to go browns then i admire that, i dont     i think there fucking with the line here to make it an unattractive game... pats just a much better team,  Belichik vs a rookie qb????   dont overthink this one.  

    This is certainly entirely possible. I've even seen it this yr...books could be trying to keep the Pats faithful from raking it in, right? But don't you think the Pats faithful will be all over this line anyway? Reverse line as a ploy...this would only make it that much easier for Vegas to lose millions cuz you don't have to coax money on the Pats the last 10 yrs! The Browns lost some very close games and are better than their record shows. They have no chance at the playoffs but this is a chance for them to look like the underdog no one want's to play from here on out. There is talent on this team and today the country will see what the Browns plan to throw at Mr. Brady.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 10:13 AM ET #40

    Taking Cleveland OVER 20pts. against New England's 28th ranked defense.
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    Taking Cleveland OVER 20pts. against New England's 28th ranked defense.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 10:38 AM ET #41

    HUGE TRAP GAME HERE!! 

    Public is all over NE....while the line is moving the wrong way....

    Give me Cleveland -4 (at some books, its now -3.5)

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    HUGE TRAP GAME HERE!! 

    Public is all over NE....while the line is moving the wrong way....

    Give me Cleveland -4 (at some books, its now -3.5)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 10:51 AM ET #42

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    PATRIOTS
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 10:52 AM ET #43

    Browns +4

     

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    Browns +4

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 11:16 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Whalewatcher:

    Thank you,

    3 times in fact

    Browns +4.5 all day!

    Now im gonna go take the Browns to the Superbowl excuse me!

    that may be true for most part but not always.  in fact, i called out someone on a lock when they said colts would definitely beat and cover vs. Houston.  i thought Texans would keep it close at least, but they didn't show up.

    What i'm saying is ALWAYS TAKE A STEP BACK AND TRY TO THINK DEEPLY WHO U ARE BETTING ON.  THE BROWNS.  THE CLEVELAND FRIGGIN CLOWNS. 

    and for some odd reason, money is coming in on the browns and driving the spread down to an attractive possible cover by Pats.  why?  combination of things.  average joes know browns have competed in every game.  they may be impressed by last week's upset of the Saints.  and they're Mangini may have an edge playing vs. his mentor Belichick.

    But when I look at the big picture, i see the well-coached Pats w/ Hall of Fame QB looking to make a run to the superbowl, and then i see an organization with a rookie QB who has done nothing but fail miserably for the last 10 years.

    It would take weird things in this game to happen for Cleveland to win.  They would need to create some turnovers and have them end up in short field situations.  The public doesn't predict the upsets.  The teams do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whalewatcher:

    Thank you,

    3 times in fact

    Browns +4.5 all day!

    Now im gonna go take the Browns to the Superbowl excuse me!

    that may be true for most part but not always.  in fact, i called out someone on a lock when they said colts would definitely beat and cover vs. Houston.  i thought Texans would keep it close at least, but they didn't show up.

    What i'm saying is ALWAYS TAKE A STEP BACK AND TRY TO THINK DEEPLY WHO U ARE BETTING ON.  THE BROWNS.  THE CLEVELAND FRIGGIN CLOWNS. 

    and for some odd reason, money is coming in on the browns and driving the spread down to an attractive possible cover by Pats.  why?  combination of things.  average joes know browns have competed in every game.  they may be impressed by last week's upset of the Saints.  and they're Mangini may have an edge playing vs. his mentor Belichick.

    But when I look at the big picture, i see the well-coached Pats w/ Hall of Fame QB looking to make a run to the superbowl, and then i see an organization with a rookie QB who has done nothing but fail miserably for the last 10 years.

    It would take weird things in this game to happen for Cleveland to win.  They would need to create some turnovers and have them end up in short field situations.  The public doesn't predict the upsets.  The teams do.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 11:29 AM ET #45

    BROWNS +5  

    In a low scoring affair. Comes down to a field goal.

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    BROWNS +5  

    In a low scoring affair. Comes down to a field goal.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #46

    Is New England that bad or just because Cleveland beat New Orleans?  I would think NE should be giving a TD or more.

    NE -3.5 & over

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    Is New England that bad or just because Cleveland beat New Orleans?  I would think NE should be giving a TD or more.

    NE -3.5 & over

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 11:58 AM ET #47

    Cleveland Browns +3.5
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    Cleveland Browns +3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 12:32 PM ET #48

    Taking the Browns. Too many of you think it is a "gift" with the low line. Browns may just win this one SU
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    Taking the Browns. Too many of you think it is a "gift" with the low line. Browns may just win this one SU
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 12:48 PM ET #49

    1st HALF:
    NE OVER 13pts
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    1st HALF:
    NE OVER 13pts
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 12:59 PM ET #50

    browns cover +4
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    browns cover +4
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